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After re-ranking the top 10top 20, and top 50, it’s easy to see there’s been big changes since last May.  Below are the Razzball Updated Rankings with the previous May rankings in parentheses before the adjusted rank:

(68) ↑ 51. Derrick Favors – Utah declining to bring back either Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap gives you a slight inclination on their thoughts on Favors, and they’re already talking contract extension with their emerging big as well.  I love his athleticism, and if I miss out on Serge Ibaka who I’m high on early, I’m gonna want to reach on Favors to win blocks. I think he’ll be a top-5 NBA swatter.

(51) 52. Kemba Walker – Kemba has been higher on virtually every rankings I’ve seen, and I’m just not top-50 high on him.  He had a really solid season last year, but the terrible FG% still worries me as I feel like he forces some offense.  The acquisition of Big Al is going to give the Bobcats/soon-to-be Hornets an actual scorer down, and I don’t think that translates into helping Kemba all that much.  I like Gerald Henderson a lot too to take a bigger scoring role.  The 2.0 steals a game last year was elite, but I see those going down along with the scoring, and a comparable 5.7:2.4 Ast:TO ratio.  All that spells a slightly down ranking for me.  Although to be fair, he’s played in every single Bobcats game in his career, so there’s that reliability that can’t be ignored.

(15) ↓ 53. Brook Lopez - My biggest sinker, I went from hoping to get Brook on all teams in my May rankings to not wanting to touch him this year.  It’s a blend of the big trade bringing in Paul Pierce and KG – I think they will really limit his offensive output – and the lingering foot injury that went deeper through the Summer than previously thought.  I think the rebounds stay about the same, fewer blocks and fewer points than last year, and he plays less than 30 minutes a game when it’s all said and done as he sees a lot of bench late in Nets blowouts.  Avoid.

(66) ↑ 54. Monta Ellis – The move to Dallas I think hurts his scoring a tad, but he was a top-50 player last year and should be solid again in 13-14.  Excited to see him play with Dirk.

(52) 55. Greg Monroe – Monroe seems to have very polarizing ranks, but in the mid-50’s is about where I’d want to get him.  The good is the overhauled roster gives Monroe the best talent he’s had around him and he’s increased his assists in his first three seasons; the bad is a falling FG% and FT% last year and way too many turnovers at 2.9 a game.  I’m fine with him here, but not reaching for him.

(N/A) ↑ 56. Trey Burke – Speaking of reaching, I’m going to be reaching hard for Burke, who I think can have a Damian Lillard-lite rookie season.  I know the Summer League performance was absolutely dreadful, but he’s been working out early with his teammates and still will be put in the driver’s seat in the Jazz offense.  The FG% and TOs will be a bugaboo, and while my projections on him in my sleeper article were a bit too bold, I still think he can be a 16/7 kind of player.  Worth the upside.

(54) 57. Tobias Harris – My boyfriend from last season, Harris was dominant during stretches in the second half last year, and will be starting for the Magic out of the gate at PF with Big Baby still a baby.  Even when Davis returns, I think Harris starts at either the 3 or 4, and with the rest of the Magic actually healthy, I think Harris will still be able to produce with semi-talent around him.

(55) 58. Chandler Parsons – I love Parsons, and even Dwight credited him as a big reason he landed in Houston.  I think  Parsons has another great year – contributor across the board, he does it all.

(43) ↓ 59. Paul Pierce - I just don’t like the move to Brooklyn, I think the Nets are indeed one of the best teams in the East and that will mean a lot of bench in blowouts.  Still a solid player, but not one I’d reach for.

(53) 60. George Hill – Another solid guy I like around here but won’t reach for, Hill is as steady as it’ll come with a very marginal ceiling unless Paul George got hurt.

(77) ↑ 61. Eric Bledsoe – Very variable in his rank, I think Bledsoe is a solid sleeper for me, but I’m not going to go nuts for him like his Yahoo rank at 46.  On the flip side, ESPN has him at 106.  Love the move to the Suns, he and Dragic should be one of the most exciting backcourts in the NBA, and we’ve seen what Bledsoe can do with the minutes.

(57) 62. Ryan Anderson – Love the out of position threes, even with the new faces (new beaks?) the Pelicans have brought in, he should be about what he was last year.  Let’s just hope the horrible tragedy he went through over the Summer doesn’t affect his game.

(60) 63. Klay Thompson – I’m probably lower on him than most rankings, and it mostly goes to my ThrAGNOF strategy or piling up threes with streamers.  Of course in FAAB or limited moves leagues I’d take him a few spots higher, but the drought he had late last year really hurt teams in the playoff push and he was borderline droppable in February to early March.  I don’t like guys who have shooting slumps completely derail their fantasy value.

(61) 64. Goran Dragic – Was a bit of a disappointment last year, but was still a solid player.  Like the upside of he and Bledsoe running a fast-paced offense.

(64) 65. David West – Delivering across all categories, West thrived in his second year with the Pacers.  Think he does it again in 13-14.

(65) 66. Zach Randolph – Back-to-back safe PF picks, Randolph is still a dub-dub machine with a reliable price tag in the 7th round.

(67) 67. DeMar DeRozan – I’m still very high on DeRozan, and as I mentioned in my previous ranks, DeRozan actually averaged 1.5 more Pts and 0.5 more Asts after the All-Star break once Gay arrived – plus shot 3% better from the field and 2% better from deep. I really like the Raptors this year, and DeRozan is still a big-time sleeper for me.  Reports from Coach Dwane Casey indicate DeMar DeRozan has vastly improved his 3-point shooting this offseason as well.  Love him.

(69) 68. Gerald Henderson – Back-to-back sleepers I have ranked high, Henderson I think thrives this season after flashing huge potential with a 18.9/4.0/3.4/1.0/0.6 second half line.

(84) ↑ 69. Thaddeus Young – A mix of probably being a tad too low to begin with, then with an offense that will literally have no one to score after trading away Jrue Holiday, Big Thad is going to have to get buckets.  While I’m still not particularly high on him, sheer volume will make him worthwhile in the 7th-8th round range.

(48) ↓ 70. Rajon Rondo – There’s a multitude of factors sinking Rondo for me – obviously the recovery from the ACL tear is the main reason (still no timetable to return) – then there’s the entirely new-look Celtics offense that will have no reason to rush Rondo onto the court in a rebuilding season.  I completely understand if you want to take that risk in the 50s, but I’m passing on Rondo this year in most drafts.

(78) 71. O.J. Mayo – Likely to get a huge opportunity as the lead scorer, Mayo should see a nice uptick in points in Milwaukee.

(58) ↓ 72. Bradley Beal – The delay in Beal’s recovery from a fibula injury has me a little worried, not specifically for that injury but he only played 56 games last year and I’m not ready to pay full price for him yet this season.  Tons of upside, but big downside as well.

(83) ↑ 73. Luol Deng – I’ve never been a huge Deng fan mainly because I’m a Tarheel, but allegiances aside, Deng had another solid year last season.  In my previous ranks, Deng was still dealing with the mysetery illness issues and since it was determined it was complications from a spinal tap and he’s fully healthy now, I’m not worried.  Contract year, playing alongside an MVP again, I have to buy Deng if he’s available here.

(N/A) ↑ 74. Jose Calderon – To be honest, I probably still should have had Calderon ranked as a Piston, but the move to Dallas will surround him with the most offensive talent he’s probably ever played with.  If you’re lacking in assists through the first five-to-six rounds, I could see nabbing him earlier than here as well.

(32) ↓ 75. Greivis Vasquez – In retrospect I had him way overranked as it was, and the move to Sacramento further cements my thoughts that he shouldn’t be drafted before this spot.  I was overrating his assists and thought he was closer to a 6 a game boarder as opposed to 4.0, and there’s still a little uncertainty with how his role will shake out if he even does make opening night recovering from an ankle injury.  I was high on him and Isaiah Thomas when they were apart (Thomas even drops out of the top 100 for me), but I’m not touching either early in drafts anymore.

(72) 76. Andre Iguodala – Won’t be anything flashy, but a safe and reliable producer on another fast-paced team moving to GS.

(70) 77. Jimmy Butler – I’m surprised at how low I’ve seen Butler in a lot of rankings, as he’s assured a starting 2 role on the Bulls next to Rose and Deng.  Butler was huge on an injury plagued Bulls team late last year, with across the board fantasy goodness – particularly steals (his 5-steal game on March 31 won me steals by a single point sending me to a H2H championship) – in the last two months of the season.  Think he’ll be an underrated multi-cat contributor this year.

(76) 78. J.R. Smith – I’ve never been a big Smith fan, a big factor was years ago in NBA 2K something my friend was playing as the Nuggets and he somehow threw up a through-the-legs dunk over somebody actually playing defense in the middle of the game in a half-court set.  He sat there and watched replays for 30 straight minutes.  I had to leave the room, if you know what I mean.  Anyway, besides that ridiculous animation they put together because someone hit square, Smith is a great scorer but doesn’t do enough of anything else to have me picking him before this spot.  Doesn’t help he’s coming off a knee injury and was smoking medicinal marijuana for the pain.

(75) 79. Kyle Lowry – Health is always the biggest concern for Lowry, but as you can see with my Valanciunas and DeRozan ranks, I’m all in on the Raptors.  Lowry should thrive in the facilitator role, but you’ve gotta build in some games missed lowering him to here.

(87) 80. Gordon Hayward – Love the big step up in 3PT% and 3PTM last year, and with Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap and Mo Williams all departing, he and Trey Burke will be relied on for consistent scoring.  Increases in minutes, steals, and assists as the season wore on, along with a decrease in turnovers, has me seeing Hayward a solid draft day value.

(82) 81. Marcin Gortat – It was a disappointing 12-13 for the Polish Hammer, but he’s still got the skills and has a very exciting back court playing in front of him.  Think he bounces back.  Love the Ten Foot Pole this year.

(92) ↑ 82. Tyreke Evans – I probably had him a bit too low in my prior ranks, and while I’m still not very bullish on him, the change of scenery to NO and a possible 6th man role – it may all end up working out for Evans to contribute.

(N/A) ↑ 83. Danny Green – It’s easy to overlook just how good a multi-cat season Green had last year – I always tend to downgrade three point production due to ThrAGNOF! – but Green adding 3 boards, 2 assists, 1.5 steals and almost a block a game are going to really help your numbers.

(N/A) ↑ 84. Enes Kanter - I would’ve previously ranked Kanter if I knew both of Millsap and Jefferson were leaving Utah, as I thought they’d keep one and pair them with Favors.  Instead it’s Kanter paired with Favors in what will be a dynamic, young front court.

(74) 85. Wilson Chandler – When Chandler started/got big minutes he had some really fantastic games, and with Danilo Gallinari not expected back until probably February of next year, I think Chandler breaks out more than people imagine.  At this value, he’ll end up on a lot of my teams.

(N/A) ↑ 86. Brandon Knight – There is obvious risk here, but I think Knight’s raw talent will find a place as the starting 1 in Milwaukee, and with a line-up around him of Mayo, Ilyasova and Sanders, it will surround Knight with better talent than in Detroit.  I’d take the risk of the upside here.

(80) 87. Kenneth Faried – I love the Manimal, love watching him play, but he doesn’t do enough across all cats for me to want to pick him before here.  The steal and block a game are nice, and there is a little upside with the Denver regime change, but not a guy I’m reaching for.

(88) 88. Jeremy Lin – I’m not really going to reach for him, but I buy he can duplicate what he did last year.  Despite not living up to the hype, he still was a fantasy producer and you know you’re going to get solid steals.

(89) 89. Wesley Matthews – I know he had a great year last season, but had a bad ankle injury (I was actually watching that game) that had him missing the last 13 games, and had elbow surgery in the offseason as well.  With the additions of C.J. McCollum and Mo Williams also looking at some time at the 2, I don’t see any way Matthews plays close to 35:00 minutes a night like we saw last year.  There’s still value, but I probably won’t end up with him on many teams.

(N/A) ↑ 90. JaVale McGee – Pshhheewww, the ranking on McGee is going to be very divisive, but the upside is obviously there.  George Karl was reportedly fired in part due to his reluctance to play McGee, and new coach Brian Shaw is giving McGee the starting gig and I gotta think he plays more than 30 minutes a game as opposed to 18 minutes per last year.  He’s going to flash some mid-range as well, the blocks and boards should be there, worth the gamble around here.

(N/A) ↑ 91. Victor Oladipo – The only other rookie in my top 100, I think it’s encouraging that the Magic are saying they’re going to play him at both guard spots, meaning he won’t be entirely stuck behind the logjam of Arron Afflalo. It may be a bit of slow sailing early on, but Afflalo is one of the most likely guys to be traded around the deadline meaning VO could have a big second half.

(90) 92. Carlos Boozer – As I said in my previous ranks, Boozer is not one of my favorite players, but he has for some reason plummeted down a lot of rankings I’ve seen.  Despite his age he’s only missed three games the past two years, and with Rose back I see his FG% going back above 50 like it usually has been.  Won’t give you any blocks for a big, but the scoring, boards and percentages I think will be fine.

(79) ↓ 93. Andre Drummond - I’m just not a huge Drummond fan, and despite the raw talent, I don’t think that necessarily translates into fantasy goodness on the new-look Pistons.  The points, boards and blocks should all be usable, but I think we see more Greg Monroe/J Smoove 4/5 minutes than people expect.  Plus the 37.1 FT% is just – yeah.

(91) 94. Raymond Felton – Well on his way to a really nice season, a broken hand derailed his value.  Even when he returned he wasn’t nearly who we saw in a great November and December.  He’ll still be driving the keys to the high-powered Knicks offense, but I don’t know if he plays 34 minutes a night again with the acquisition of Beno Udrih who I think is actually a really nice fit for that team.

(92) 95. Andrew Bogut – The lengthy injury history is concerning, but when he’s on the court he’s multi-cat gold.  He says he’s healthy and he expects to play a lot of minutes this season, but one can only expect so much.

(N/A) ↑ 96. Steve Nash – A guy I’m probably not ending up with on any teams, Nash does have that outside shot of staying healthy enough to play in enough games to help your team.  No Dwight should help open things up a tad, and if he can recover from lingering nerve damage in his leg, could really produce.  But at 39-years young and what we saw last year, I’m not reaching for it.

(99) 97. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist – I’m probably reaching for him a tad, but it’s easy to forget MKG was the youngest player in the NBA last year on an atrocious team.  With Big Al now at the 5, they move up a peg to a pretty bad team and I see MKG upping his minutes to at least over 30 a night increasing from the 26 we saw last year.  He can board, block and steal, and I think will develop into a better scorer as well.  I think he will be undervalued as an under-the-radar, multi-cat player.

(100) 98. Jamal Crawford – Obviously a one-trick pony, he’s still a fantastic scorer and with the Clip only bringing in J.J. Redick to replace some of the points departing in free agency, I think Crawford can duplicate what we saw last year.

(N/A) ↑ 99. Spencer Hawes – I’ve never really been a big Hawes fan, but someone has to score alongside big Big Thad for the Sixers, and I don’t think the answer is Evan Turner.  The more I’m looking at what he brings you I think he’s actually a little underrated, giving you scoring, boards and blocks and a handful of out of position 3s.  He may lose some PT when Nerlens Noel is ready, but the Sixers will have no reason to rush their future back.  Hawes should be playing over 30 minutes a night early on as opposed to the 27 a game we saw last year.

(N/A) ↑ 100. Tyson Chandler – Despite disappearing at times, Chandler still had a really productive 12-13 when he was on the court.  I’m not necessarily buying a repeat of last season, but he’s still got just enough value to crack the final spot in my top 100.

Dropped Out: Isaiah Thomas, Tristan Thompson, Anderson Varejao, Glen Davis, Joe Johnson, Eric Gordon, Omer Asik, Kevin Garnett, J.J. Hickson, Jameer Nelson, Mo Williams

 

Look for a consolidated list of the top 100 in an easy-to-use cheat sheet, along with the next 100 ranked for our Razzball’s top 200.  Comments on who was left out?  Guys you think too high?  Let us know below!

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  1. James Redacted

    James Redacted says:
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    The Raptors’ 3-pt shooting is so pathetic they’ll be talking themselves into giving Novak 25 minutes a game. Their starting lineup (for however long Lowry is healthy) will be PG Lowry, SG DeRozan, SF Gay, PF Amir Johnson, C Valanciunas. Brick City baby! Over/Under 2 weeks until Zach Lowe talks about the Raptors and spacing issues.

    I think KG will still be a top 100 player. He played 29.7 mpg last year and there may be a slight droppage (28 range) but he’ll still produce.

    I like your Parsons love.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @James Redacted: Haha, good point, but I think if Lowry can give em 70 games it’ll be fine. I’ll still take the over :)

      The thing with KG is I’ve seen Jason Kidd say he doesn’t want to play him in back-to-back games. So minutes will be there, but will be out here and there even without injury.

      Preciate it! Thanks for your thoughts!

  2. John says:
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    Nice to see your top 100 fantasy players. Isn’t a lil bit reach for Trey Burke to have 16/7. I know the Jazz don’t have much offensive weapon. But Burke is just too small and not very speedy PG. I’m looking to trade away Aldridge because of his trade status. Which is the better deal, Pau + Bledsoe, Tyreke + Cousins, or Anthony Davis + George Hill. I’m a lil bit worried about Davis’ ankle and other minor injuries and the number of scorers in Pelicans. Which of these players is the better pick up for 9-cat leauge Olynk, Gerald Wallace, Shawn Marion, Henson, Lou Williams, Afflalo, or Galo? Thanks.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @John: Thanks! I don’t think so, I think he takes enough shots to do that, but with the aforementioned bad FG%. The same could be said of Lillard minus the speed. I think I’d take Davis and Hill, you get a very consistent guy in Hill and I like Davis a lot (I think have him ranked 2-3 below LA as it is). I’m not buying ESPN’s crazy ranking of Lou that I saw, I think I go Olynk or Afflalo, depending on the stats you need, Olynk all thinks equal.

  3. HELP WE NEED MULTIPLE POSITIONS PER PLAYER FOR ESPN FANTASY. HOW IS DEMARCUS NOT A CENTER?? POST ON THIS FORUM YOUR OUTRAGE. Bring AWARENESS!

  4. Pete Maravich says:
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    First time playing nba roto and love the rankings and insight behind the choice. Would a team of multi cat players drafted per your ranking do better than a team of players maxing out in specific categories per your ranking. I’ll let you know how you did.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Pete Maravich: Pistol Pete! I don’t think there’s a definitive answer, once you get the best value in the first few rounds, you kinda tweak with what stats you need throughout the rest of the draft. Usually if my first few rounds are more multi cat guys and all stats look even, might go for upside guys in specific stats like Favors for blocks or Lin for steals, but if I got Ibaka and guys like that early, Id be more apt to go for all around guys later.

  5. Rob says:
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    What are your thoughts on kevin martin, michael carter-williams, amir johnson, kyle korver, chris kaman and caron butler??
    Some of these guys are projected (By ESPN) to be decent picks this year.. and is there going to be top 200 bu any chance??

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Rob: Working on the top 200 now, in the 160s. Have everyone broken down by position too, just taking longer than I thought, everything should be up Monday. Not big on Martin, scores and does nothing else (including getting to the line), MCW has minutes/opportunity upside but probably shoots under 40% and turns the ball over a ton, Amir I might have too low in the early 100s but he’s not gonna score 10 a game, Korver is a bit of a ThrAGNOF and I don’t draft 3-pt specialists too high, haven’t even ranked Butler yet, he might not even make the top 200 for me, and love love love Kaman for great double-double value you can draft late. Thanks for reading!

  6. matt says:
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    How is kobe & bynum not I’m the top 100? This is crazy!

  7. Peja4 says:
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    What do you think about Waiters??I strongly believe he is a top 100 player!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Peja4: I’m down on him, have him at 126 – the rest of the 200 will be up Monday. Worried that Jack sees a lot of minutes, especially late in games.

  8. matt says:
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    I took a late flier on him. . Oh well he’s worth the risk in my opinion

    • JB Gilpin

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      @matt: On Bynum? Yeah late-round flier is fine with me, but that’s out of the top 100. I currently have him at 111, the rest of the 200 I’ll have up monday morning. Thanks for dropping by!

  9. John says:
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    Who would you rather have Amir Johnson or John Henson? Is Amir a lock starting PF for the Raptors? Have you seen the ESPN 2014 projections for each player? What are your thoughts? Thanks.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @John: Yeah I’d definitely want Amir. I have him at 101 and Henson at 142. For the ESPN projections – I don’t see Amir getting the blocks and don’t think he scores 10 a game with Valanciunas owning down low. For Henson, don’t buy their scoring projection and don’t think he plays 27 minutes a night. More like 20-22.

  10. JoeMorgan'sMustache says:
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    JB, appreciate the list man. I love me some fantasy basketball and am getting geared up for the season. I just have a quick question for you….16 team keeper league, we can keep up to 5…coming off another championship in there, so per our rules I only get docked a $1 on my keepers…rule is 1-4 get docked the number of their placing…anything after that is the standard $5. Anyways, here are my current keepers…

    Lawson $29
    Bosh $28
    Marc Gasol $20
    Dragic $7
    Parsons $3

    Funny thing is none of these players were on my roster last coming into the year ( got 3rd year before ), and I made 11 trades last year…ha. Was a fun year as I basically revamped my roster that way and built what I felt was a stronger team, while cutting some cost.

    So, out of these players, the only one I don’t really love and or see as a no brainer is Bosh, although $28 for him in a 16 team league isn’t really bad at all. Like you, I also like Millsap this year…an owner has him at a base cost of $32, which would of course cost me $33. Would offering Bosh for him work…been considering it.

    One more note is I could keep Jr Smith at $12 or Hawes at $7…but not sure those are options, even at a cheaper price, over Bosh.

    Our Roster set up is…

    PG
    G
    SG
    SF
    PF
    F
    C
    UTIL
    UTIL

    5 bench slots, and scoring is standard 9-cat. Thoughts are appreciated…thanks man!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @JoeMorgan’sMustache: Hey man! Welcome to hoops glad to see ya over here! Man tough one, I think I narrowly would take Millsap, I have him 12 spots higher and I think that’s worth the $5 bucks. Not a huge JR fan, and I’m a little higher on Hawes than most but don’t think he beats out your other 5 keepers. Win it again this year!

      • JoeMorgan'sMustache says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks man…gonna do my best…gonna try and get Millsap!

  11. JoeMorgan'sMustache says:
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    Well, now an owner contacted me about Parsons. My Parsons ( would cost me $3 )…for his Leonard ( would cost me $11 ). I love Parsons, but think Leonard probably has more long-term potential/upside. Just unsure with cost difference. Thoughts?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @JoeMorgan’sMustache: Man another close one… That one I might actually say hold Parsons, Chandler is pretty young too so I like his long-term value as well.

      • JoeMorgan'sMustache says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah man, I like him too…man crush style. That 12-13 game last year where he also went 6-7 from downtown was sick. I think that was during the stretch where he hit 17 3’s in 3 games…that fool can ball. With that said, I get caught up in the efficiency of Leonard, his rebounds, and his 3/st/bl combo. The owner and I are still in talks…something may not work out anyways…plus I am rather torn. Appreciate your input!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @JoeMorgan’sMustache: Haha I hear ya, you’re gonna have to fight me off! Chandler is mine.

  12. Wallpaper Paterson says:
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    What format do you like best for NBA?
    H2h-categories
    H2H-points
    Roto
    Points

    I have only done h2h-cats and think it sucks. I have grown really tired of having a 1 or 2 seed get into the playoffs and lay an egg. Then I have to fight (if at Yahoo) my ass off just to settle for a 3rd place finish for a fake trophy.

    I have a baseball team with a 199-121-25 record that is likely to go down tomorrow to a team that was only 16 games over .500. Then I will fight next week just to get a 3rd place finish. Finishing 4th will make my team look like it was ragtag middling team.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Wallpaper Paterson: I personally like H2H cats the best, mainly because it’s just what I’m used to. I think a lot of times whatever format you started with becomes your favorite, and that’s what’s true for me. While your point is true, it’s the same for fantasy football and I like the playoff aspect. One thing we always do is either split winnings 50/50 for reg. season/playoffs or pay slightly more to reg season winner, but if you’re not playing for cash, I can see the anger playing in H2H playoffs. Well as compared to baseball, there’s usually fewer injuries in basketball and fewer players shut down, the Heat benching guys notwithstanding. That’s usually not the case, all the other bad teams still played out everyone… BUt that’s just my two cents!

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        @JB Gilpin: Playing in a money league with some of the payouts based on regular season success would change my opinion greatly. I have to cease with the free leagues.

        I set up my new dynasty NFL league for regular season success to be rewarded.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Wallpaper Paterson: Haha yea I think that’s how you gotta do it. Then there’s always that allure of winning the reg season and the playoffs for a huge payday. While the 4th place team eeking into the playoffs can still win a nice payday as well.

        • JoeMorgan'sMustache says:
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          @Wallpaper Paterson: That’s what we do in this 14 teamer I have been in for years…we actually run baseball, basketball, and football in there. Regular season winner gets a a little payout…playoff winner gets double what regular season payout is. Also, we incorporate all 3 leagues and add up points ( points are based on where you place…1st get 14, 2nd 13, and so on ). Whoever has the most added up between the 3 sports get the big overall payout. Also, in the last 2 years we incorporated where overall 2nd place gets a little money. I’m not sure I agree with it. I don’t think 2nd place should get shit…but whatever works to make the 1st loser feel better…ya know.

          I know this type of set up is rare ( especially getting everyone to participate in all 3 sports ), but I love it…and it really helps to eliminate a team “tanking”, so to speak, because where one places matters in each sport, and could be the difference in some cash at the end.

  13. omer says:
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    as a general comment – I don’t understand which format this ranking is for. H2H vs Roto and 8 cat vs 9 cat can make a great difference in ranking.

    as for the content – I really don’t like the low ranking on Ted Young. Young was ranked 31 last year in basketballmonster.com for 9 cat. you can argue he will go down a bit without Holiday (though some claim the opposite), but you put him in 69 while claiming he should actually improve, and you put horrible fantasy players ahead of him such as Randolph (97 last year), or Henderson.
    You can say Young is boring to own, but with 1.8 steals, 1.2 TO, 53% FG & decent rebounding this guy should never see 6th round in a 9 cat league.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @omer: It’s trying to balance all formats. I don’t know where you got the notion I said Thad would improve, I just said he’ll have to get buckets – not necessarily even improving in scoring or anything. Just was mentioning there’s nothing there in Philly. The steals will go down, the FG% down with no help on offense, the TO is fine, and he was a 57% FT shooter last year. I don’t always agree with Basketball monster’s algorithms and don’t see him repeating last year. Z-Bo will outdo or about replicate everything Thad does except steals. Henderson was fantastic in the 2nd half. These rankings project for this season, not only taking into account 2012-2013.

  14. casey says:
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    Just some thoughts on your jazz ranks….

    Derrick Favors last year averaged 2.6blk, 1.3stl, 11reb, and 14.6pts. I’m assuming he gets these numbers next year as he’ll increase his minutes to about 36 a game. If you knew he were to get these numbers, where would you rank him? I’m thinking around 30….

    I’m thinking the same thing when looking at Gordon Hayward. He’s an excellent 3 shooter, should score 18 or so a game as the go to scorer (I highly doubt Tre is. I like the kid, but Corbin won’t put the ball in his hands to start the season, he just doesn’t trust young guys). He shoots a lot of FT, will get 4 ast a game as the number one play maker…. I’m seeing him as a top 50 guy. He’d be even w/ Batum in my mind if he had the same stl/blk.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @casey: Looking at what Favors did last year with the minutes bump, those numbers don’t look too far off. Don’t know about the boards, but the rest is pretty close. Remember a lot of what he did last year was against 2nd units. I have him ranked higher than most places, so I’m still ending up with him more often than not. And the same goes for Hayward. I have him higher than most, but still some question marks with the offense and what Burke ends up doing, which I think is a lot.

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