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Mid-rounds – when it starts getting tricky!  And when personal biases and a soft spot for Latin Lovers can creep into your thoughts and dreams!

You don’t have to look far to see that I covet upside youth as early as the 20s, with a few gut calls that could make or break my 15-16.  As long as MCW isn’t in there!  One thing I’ve found over last year is there seems to be pretty good talent and upside through the mid-40s, so as long as everyone in your league isn’t going for a FT punt, you should be able to get through 3-4 rounds with your desired build and a few fitting options each pick.  Enough wankery, we want ranks already! Here’s the Top 50 for the 2015-16 Fantasy Basketball Season:

21. Andrew Wiggins, Minnesota Timberwolves – Uh oh, JB has that rookie nookie going on!  Well, he’s not a rook anymore, but dayum this rank gets me a little heebly jeebly.  It all came down to wanting Wiggins just a tad more than Melo, which has a good deal to do with lessened injury risk.  Wiggy just kept getting jiggy as the season wore on, shooting a better FG% with more volume, improving AST, and after oddly struggling with FT%, started getting to the line a ton and hitting nearly 80% in the second half.  With Kevin Martin back it might hurt his shots a tad (probably keeping Wiggins from getting over a trey a game in 15-16 as well), but there’s superstar upside here which might happen as soon as this year.  I’ll take the gamble.

22. Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks – After limping around for a while for the Poppycockers, Melo finally shut it down and had knee surgery, and is ready to lead Phil’s triangle O in 15-16.  What happens next?!  Pick your own adventure!  I more than likely won’t be on that adventure with this rank outside the top 20, but even per-game Melo was 30th last year.  Sure you can argue he was hurt, but I hopefully won’t have Melo fall to me this far.

23. Eric Bledsoe, Phoenix Suns – I have a little less numbers and relying on a little more faith putting E Bled this high.  A mere 47th in per-game value, that value jumps all the way to 26th for 14-15 after playing 81 games.  Injury issues have been, well an issue for Bledsoe, so I’m encouraged we can see another healthy year as he enters his prime.  Brandon Knight is in my mind a much better guard alongside Bledsoe for fantasy purposes than Goran Dragic or Isaiah Thomas, but we’ll need to see an improved TO rate than the 4 a game we saw in the second half last year.  But Knight was hurt most of that time, so Bledsoe had to do a lot himself.  A full season with Knight camping for some treys as his running mate and I think we have a monster breakout coming.

24. Andre Drummond, Detroit Pistons – Aight, I’m ready to take the plunge on the FT punt bigs!  Greg Monroe getting shipped out and there’s now a stretch 4 with the Six-Foot-Turkey Ersan flat-footing the perimeter, Drummo has all the room in the world to play Kevin Costner in The Postman.  The overall metrics hate him, but as we all know, FT punt builds or teams that can absolve that bad FT% can reap the big fellah’s stats.

25. Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks – The metrics love Big Al, while the fantasy community seems to ostracize him.  Well, maybe that’s a bit of a harsh word, but I have a feeling his 17th per-game value is going to be overlooked since he’s not a category-killer.  While the declining boards down to 7.2 is an issue, as is the Hawks likely resting him late in blowouts, Horford’s ridiculously low 1.3 TO and high-volume 53.8% FG shooting can get overlooked by the likes of sexy numbers like DeAndre’s 15 boards or Whiteside’s 2.5 blocks.

26. Pau Gasol – Chicago Bulls – He’s old.  Sure.  He had nearly a career year at age 34.  Awesome.  But I don’t think you can automatically dismiss Gasol’s 13th best per-game finish and an unbelievable 7th overall finish.  While Tibs departing certainly makes an argument against Pau, he did play in the 36-37 MPG range for eight seasons before two injury riddled years ended his brief Lakers stint.  It’s a little risky given the age, and some numbers like a near career-beat 1.9 swats seem unrepeatable, but I could see another solid campaign as long as you pray to the injury gods.

27. Marc Gasol, Memphis Grizzlies – I didn’t really mean to rank the bros (hermanos!) back-to-back, but it sorta fell that way.  Marcy Marc had a very similar productive season as big bro, finishing 19th in per-game and 9th in total value.  And just like big bro, Marc had a knee issue give us a few question marcs entering last year, but he played 81 games.  But unlike Pau, Marc has played all but 1 or 2 games in 5 of 7 seasons.  I think which Gasol to take is a great debate, and team build would guide my answer.  Boards gimme Pau, slight help in dimes gimme Marc.

28. Nikola Vucevic, Orlando Magic – Vuc always seems to be underrated, but the durability issues certainly have credence.  22nd in per-game value last year has me seeing a comparable 15-16, but I love he got to a career-best 52.3% from the field while taking more than 4 more shots a game than his career  high.  He’s a decent FT shooter for a big, but the fact he still hasn’t gotten over 2 Stls+Blks in a year yet is annoying.  Even in a career high 34.1 MPG in 14-15, 0.7 Stl 0.7 Blk.  But paired with a blocker and a good PG for STL, and baby you got a stew goin’!

29. Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz – Everyone’s favorite fisherman just keeps steadily improving, but on a pretty low-incline ascent.  The metrics don’t love him – only 38th in per-game last year – but Hayward bounced back from a horrid 3PT shooting season in 13-14 and went up to 19.3 PPG.  While his fanbase might want him even higher, I loathe the AST:TO dropping from 5.2:2.8 to 4.1:2.7 the past two years.  You’d think with their horrific PG play his dimes would go up, but as Dante Exum gets more run as the starter this year, I think it’ll help Gordon remain the focal point and get back up to 5 APG.

30. Hassan Whiteside, Miami Heat – It’s pretty remarkable that the waiver-wire savior finished 34th per game last year in 48 games, starting only 32 of em.  Triple-blockel!  As mentioned above, 2.5 swats in those 32 starts, while averaging 13.7/11.8 and 61.2% from the field.  Whiteside straight split his FT making 50%, but hey, that’s better than sommmmeeeee people!  I don’t know if we see 13.7 points again – he has a nice scoring outburst late with Bosh hurt – but he’s playing for a monster deal as caps expand and I think has a huge encore.

31. Rudy Gay, Sacramento Kings – Don us now, our boring apparel!  Nothing screams boring-er than picking Rudy Gay in the third round, as he’s been a 3rd-5th rounder seemingly forever.  Lost in the clamrous noise of the Kings being a wretched franchise, Gay actually had a career-year, scoring a personal best 21.1, and by far his best dimes at 3.7 in his first nice-ish 3.7:2.7 A:TO ratio.  The boards took a tad of a fall and certainly won’t bounce back with Boogie and Willie down low, but 5.0-5.8 was by far his best season at the stripe, and it’s not like Cauley-Stein or Rajon Rondo is bringing in any new offense.  Gay finished 25h in per-game value last year, and while I doubt there’s much room to grow beyond that, the pieces are in place for a strong repeat that many drafters might ignore in the 3rd.  I won’t.

32. DeAndre Jordan, Dallas Mavericks Los Angeles Clippers – Hah, not much more to say here other than we expect a very comparable season.  I could see going a good bit earlier in full-FT punt builds, but building in all the variables, DJ crushes the metrics (or should I say, the metrics crush DJ) with only a 40th per-game value.  Of course, for a big he’s mad durable and that shoots up to 23rd in total value since he yet again didn’t miss a game, but his 5.7 FTA per-game is absurd.  That number is going to skyrocket, which in turn will lower his typical 34 MPG.  The NBA didn’t ammend the Hack-a-Shaq rule, so expect more teams to exploit it.

33. Chris Bosh, Miami Heat – Everything is looking up for Bosh after going through a really difficult medical issue, so we’re just going to be wholly positive and hope for another holy Bosh season.  There’s that little itch of risk that he’s going to be under-conditioned and slow to come along, but all news thus far has been positive and I think we have another solid output.  His per-game fell to 40th overall in 14-15, but that had a lot to do with a mere 1.5 combined Stls+Blks.  But he averaged 21.1 PPG – his best since joining the Heat – and by far his best 3PT output hitting 1.4 per.  There’s a lot to like if you can pair him with a high-volume blocker.  Brow+a PG+Bosh?

34. Kyle Lowry, Toronto Raptors – Yikes, talk about an awkward offseason!  Maybe right behind DeAndre’s saga (or maybe not quite as bad as Mike Scott hitting the Molly and his brother trying to speed away from cops), Lowry didn’t endorse Dwane Casey as coach, then Casey called Lowry fat.  “That fatty fat Lowry can’t stop being fat!” I think that was the official quote.  While Lowry is a great player – and in a healthy season he would easily outperform this rank – he fell apart in the second half trying to gut through a hand injury shooting 37.3% from the field and his dimes plummeted to 5.4.  A lot of his numbers from last year were first half leaning while DeMar DeRozan was hurt, and Lowry has a littered injury history as he heads into his age 29 season.  I’m not overpaying.

35. Jeff Teague, Atlanta Hawks – On a per-minute basis, Teague would be much, much higher.  But without looking at his per-36s, Teague was 29th last year in per-game with that value really hampered by playing 30:31 MPG.  Even with the lower minutes he had a career-best 1.7 steals, but with Dennis Schroder playing so well behind him, the dominant Hawks had no reason to push Teague.  Coach Butthole is from the Spurs system, so I think we see a similar 15-16 campaign with another rash of late DNP-CDs.

36. LaMarcus Aldridge, San Antonio Spurs – The biggest off-season hit for a “top player”, Aldridge is going to lose a ton of minutes, a ton of shots, and a ton of value.  Maybe even a ton of hair if he stays on the Spurs until he gets into the Tim Duncan years…  My rank all the way down to 36 is maybe a little bit too precipitous, but it’s not going to be me in all likelihood to take the risk.  The Spurs love to take their treys, but I don’t know if LA expands on that part of his game in 15-16.  0.5 seems like a nice repeatable number.

37. Derrick Favors, Utah Jazz – Slim’s boyfriend, aherm I mean a Utah Jazz player, Favors put together another solid campaign continuing to improve, but was still only 42nd per-game.  He continues to be a mid-60% FT shooter, the boards didn’t go up last year and the steals went back to sub-1.  My real concern is his FG% dropped to 49.8% post-ASB, and for a guy that isn’t elite in anything but boards (OK 1.7 blocks probably is, I guess), a lower FG% plus bad FT weigh pretty hard for me vs. the upside of further development of his potential.

38. Kevin Love, Cleveland Cavaliers – It’d be hard to have a worse season than Love’s debut in Cleveland, but I don’t think we can automatically assume he’s going to take a huge leap forward either.  Honestly, looking back at his stats, I don’t think there’s that much he’s going to improve upon.  Maybe a few more shots that inch him closer to 20 PPG and he can get that FG% back to over 45%, but even with last year’s stats he was 33rd per-game.  Re-reading that, it’s kinda shocking the metrics liked Love that much!  But I’m building in a tad of injury concern with this rank as well, along with lack of upside.

39. Goran Dragic, Miami Heat – Last year I had PGs in a really tight bunch early in the mid-rounds, but they’re spaced much more evenly this year.  I have a feeling Lowry and Teague might have an ADP a good bit higher, so Dragic is my favorite middle, middle-round PG option.  DID THAT MAKE ANY SENSE?!  No?  OK…  Dragic’s 62nd per-game rank is a little misleading given all those issues he had in Phoenix, but his move to Miami didn’t change too much.  The big upgrade was +1.2 AST without sacrificing any giveaways, but I’m looking forward to him having an offseason to practice with the Heat.  He won’t crush dimes given Dwyane Wade being a usage whore, but the %s and low TO make Dragic a solid PG2.

40. Nerlens Noel, Philadelphia 76ers – Captain N!  As with both of my high rook ranks of Noel and Wiggins in 14-15, it sure looked foolish the first few months!  Through his first 30 games, Noel was killing the D but lacking everywhere else with a 7.6/7.2/1.7/1.5/1.4 line in 29.9 mins.  What really hurt was 40.9% from the field and 52% from the stripe.  All Noel needed was that holiday spirit to power his second half!  From Jan 7th until the final three games (which were mostly duds and one he barely played – tank city!), 42 games of 11.8/9.0/1.7/2.0/2.3 in 32.0 mins.  Almost averaged a rainbow line over three months!  And what’s most impressive is 49.7% from the field and 62.5% from the stripe – both massive upgrades in more volume.  Found his stride!  If he was manning the paint again on his own, I’d have him fairly higher, but Jahlil Okafor and his atrocious fantasy game will theoretically clog the paint and smear some inconsistency.

41. Reggie Jackson, Detroit Pistons – Reg-gie!  Reg-gie!  (say that in your head like an arena chant…)  R-Jax certainly had some downs (barely played once Westbrook was back in OKC, 14.3/4.3/6.6 his first 11 in DET with 3.3 TO and a paltry 0.6 STL), but then there were some massive ups when he started in OKC and his final 16 in Motor City putting up 19.9/4.9/10.9.  Unfortunately he still had the high TO (3.7) and microscopic STL (0.8) in that stretch.  Plus only 1.1 treys and 75% FT shooting.  Nothing is too abhorrent, but I could see people looking at the popcorn tripdub stats and getting a bit too reachy.  That said, in those final 16 games, he had 9+ dimes in all plus one, and the one he didn’t, he had 8.  What an atrocious performance, that one!

42. Elfrid Payton, Orlando Magic – Mmmmm, this Elfrid is gonna be on a lot of my shelfrids!  Through some conversations with Slim, I have a feeling this will be well above ADP.   I can see the negatives!  I’m not enamored by that quaff of hair!  55% from the FT line, 42.5% from the field, 14-15 was a little MCW-ish shooting the ball.  Oh no, not MCW comps!  What people miss is those numbers is they were in much smaller volume while Elfrid had lower TO.  Then the biggie.  Elfrid ended on a ridiculous run of 12.4/5.6/8.7/2.4/0.5 over the last 21 games, hitting 7 of the 11 treys he hit last year (microscopic, I know, but I think it’s something that will improve) with only 2.8 TO and 44.8% FG 58.8% FT.  What puts Elfrid this high is the combo of upside, and just the dynamite PG fit he’d be on a FT punt.  I think he can even survive on non-FT punt, as even that final stretch as he expanded his usage, only 1.9-3.2 FT a game.  You can cushion that and enjoy the elite steals and occasional out-of-position block.

43. Al Jefferson, Charlotte Hornets – Man, I really hope Big Al is taken before this pick.  Unfortunately, I think he’ll be on the board in every other draft at this point.  Per-game he was 48th last year, and gets an upgrade over non-passing/terrible shooting Gerald Henderson to facilitating Nicolas Batum out on the wing.  Plus whenever Frank Kaminsky is out there, Big Al is going to have the entire big post to swing his little Al in.  Although his little Al is still probably bigger than most, you see the bed he bought?!  Anyway, he lost 5 PPG and over 2 boards from last year, along with a FT% that fell to an oddly 9-year low 65.5%, but I can see slight recoveries in all those areas.  A big dip in the scoring/boarding was due to losing nearly 5 MPG, which had some easing-in-off-injury starts in there.  I think he gets back to 32-33 mins and the blocks maintained either way last year.  The big man just has to be healthy.  Pray to the injury gods!

44. Kemba Walker, Charlotte Hornets – I’ve had many moments where I’ve had to fight against Kemba, but this year I’m giving him the full embrace.  My arms are wide, I’m big enough to be the big spoon, we’re going to get this done!  Same argument as Big Al – with Batum helping space and help efficiency on O over that scrub Hendo, Walker will hopefully get that FG% north of 40 with some better shots.  Last year he got a surprising career-best 0.5 BLK and cut the TO to a ridiculously microscopic 1.6.  Sure the dimes were down to 5.1, but in 9-cat, Walker can go pretty unloved.  Enter me and my bear hug and my bed that may or may not be as comfortable as Big Al’s!

45. Victor Oladipo, Orlando Magic – Slim had to talk me into this one, but that man could sell condoms to Liam Hemsworth if you know what I mean!  As in, he doesn’t have to use them and it’s a waste of money…  “It’s not funny if you have to explain your joke!”  Slim’s projection for Oladipo seems a little rich for me (projections will all be in the master rankings post out Wednesday, but here’s a sneak peek for VO – .440/.820/1.3/19.0/4.3/4.3/1.8/0.4/2.8 :36), but even pretty close to that has to be a top-50 pick.  I have a feeling VO might be the buzziest guard of the mid-rounds as we approach drafts, but I see a fallacy in looking at his post-ASB numbers as he played a ridiculous 38:32 a game.  His per-36s didn’t change all that much, but there indeed was a nice little boost in dimes.  The scoring is unquestioned, but he won’t be elite in treys and the TO are a tad high for my liking.  That said, there’s so much to like across the board and I can’t really strongly refute Slim’s projection.  I think the dimes and blocks look a smidge high, but barely.  I won’t be hopping on the VO in the mid-3rd though, which I could see becoming a trend.

46. Monta Ellis, Indiana Pacers – No one is going to feel really excited nabbing Monta in the mid-40s, but he is just so damn consistent!  His per-game was a mere 64th overall, but he played another 80 games which drove his total value all the way to 45th.  All his stats seem repeatable to me, especially since the Pacers have said on multiple occasions they want to be more up-tempo.  Sometimes Ellis gets overlooked since he’s not a huge AST/3PTM guy, but the near 2 steals a game are muy bueno.

47. Ricky Rubio, Minnesota Timberwolves – So I’m going to let you in on a little secret.  I’m actually a farmer/cowboy in South Dakota.  I have a secret tent set.  And ummmm, “WHY CAN’T I QUIT YOU!?!?!?!”  Rubio, still… hasn’t put it together.  I know that.  Neither the stats or the games have fit together into a pricetag that’s probably worth this pick, but he looked really good for a week last year before he blew up his kankle.  So I’m throwing a lot of last year out as he just wasn’t right, and I’m really excited for this team he’s QBing in 15-16.  Should be a lot of points, very high tempo, and another huge AST/STL year.  And I know there’s 202 games now backing it up, but I think he can get to 40% from the field, I really do.  Of course the 3s won’t be there, but I don’t see last year’s steals going down a trend – he played a lot of injured minutes with insecurity on his kankle.  I’d risk it here.

48. Greg Monroe, Milwaukee Bucks – One of the big winners of the free agent movers, Monroe now has an entire paint to…  to canvas?  An entire paint to… become a saint!  This is why I leave the rapping to Grey on the baseball pod…  While still not a blocker, Monroe should easily fall into 17/11ish dubdub stats and he finally got his FT stroke together to make a cool 75% from the stripe.  Without having to take some mid-range and fend off Andre Drummond for deep post positions, I think we see his FG% go over 50% as well.

49. Isaiah Thomas, Boston Celtics – This one is certainly liable to change if the C’s stick with Marcus Smart as the starting PG and bring IT2/3 off the bench, but B-rad has mentioned he’s open to swapping the two.  If Tw0-Thirds starts at the 1, he’s going to be worth a pick in the 4.  Hah, too many single integers!  As a starter last year, IT2/3 was 26/3/5 averaging 0.0 TO!  Wait, that’s one game…  Small sample size!  If we got a “for sure” IT2/3 is starting this year, I could imagine going even further, but for now I would only feel good nabbing him at the periphery of the top-50.

50. Danilo Gallinari, Denver Nuggets – Wooooo, let’s get weird in this ish!  I don’t mean to have a weird sleeper pick as my 50th ranked every year, but it seems like it’s what happens!  Two years ago it was a catastrophic fail (Luminescent Lithuanian anyone?!), but last year Nerlens Noel ended up paying off!  At least I think I had him initially 50… Don’t fact check that!  Gallo came into last year with yet another knee issue, and (theoretically) is going through his first healthy off-season in 3 years.  His overall 14-15 numbers aren’t exactly awe-inspiring, but Gallo went bananas in the second half going 18.6/4.8/1.9/1.3/0.5 shooting 44.3% from the field, making 2.8 treys, hitting 3.8 FT at 89.1%, and only turning it over 1.3 per.  As redonk as those numbers are over his final 24 games, he had some superstar lines in there including 40/7/4/3/2 with 6 3PTM and 10-11 FT and 47/9/2/1/1 with 7 3PTM and 10-10 FT.  In those two games – a combined 1 TO.  Sure you can’t pick and choose like that, but dayum he is showing some glimpses.  And then you take out the usage monger that was Ty Lawson and replace it with the rook Emmanuel Mudiay, which will only increase Gallo’s usage and touches.  Of course you have to take into account the injury risk, but it would probably shock most people that he’s just turning 27 in a few days and still within his proverbial “prime”.

 

Whew, 50 down, 150 to go!  Slim and I will be Podding tomorrow as I get grilled on some of these ranks with Slim’s oracle-like wisdom, and we’ll be getting through the top-75 by the end of the week.  Happy offseason planning, Razzball Nation!

  1. MAC says:
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    RAZZUP BRUH?!!! 1st!!! regarding pgs, id rather have conley than thomas and rjax.

    • Slim

      Slim says:
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      @MAC: Nice. I was in the middle of writing something real similar. Although I think I’m still taking Reggie over Conley, but it’s close.

      • MAC says:
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        @Slim:
        conley over rjax is close, but im definitely taking conley. i expect conley to have a better year with better health and with the contract in mind. we all know its a boring pick, but for me, with top 5 picks i would still go with steady over upside. also, who are the other players playing for contracts this year?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @MAC: Hmmm, I guess I just don’t know if Conley is for sure going to be healthy. He’s not too old, but a lot of tread on the tires – especially adding playoffs in there.

          Top of mind is definitely Whiteside, not even making over a million. Drummo is restricted, but could be playing for a max deal, Durant maybe to DC will be a saga, but Whiteside playing for a ridiculous raise is the big one for me

        • Slim

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          @MAC: I don’t know how to make a hyperlink but if you check out Spotrac they have a comprehensive list. That’s where I go for all my contract info.

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            @Slim: From someone who plays in a Salary Cap league where you must know the exact salary for every player, Spotrac is the best site. They give you full contract details; number of years, dollars per year, options, opt-outs. It’s wonderful. Both ESPN and Hoopshype have flaws with the way they report salaries and don’t show how long the contract is.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Jensen: Hah I always read it too fast and thought it was “sportsrac” hahaha. I said that on the Pod we just did. But yeah we use that a lot

  2. Slim

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    The only omission that sticks out to me is that of Mike Conley. Even in less minutes (30) in the playoffs he still did his usual thing, with a broken face… I imagine there is some injury concern but he’s a tough guy and apparently he turned down a contract extension to be a free agent in ’16. There should be some motivation there for a big payday. I’m confident he’s a top 50 guy. I know the steals are coming down and the 3s are going up like most players do when they are past their prime but he’s still should get 1.5ish of each, low TOs, doesn’t kill your FG%, kind of the classic, “steady as she goes” kind of guy. He’ll be 28 so I imagine there is at least another good year or 2 left on him. While I agree there’s some upside for IT2/3rds I’m pretty sure I’d take Conley ahead of him even if 2/3rds starts. Also over Rubio but I know that love affair isn’t the most rational. And I think Rubio and Elfrid are basically the same but for different team builds and I feel pretty good about Conley over him too. I know I know… upside, but I don’t think the upside equals even an average Conley.

    Wait… where’s Faried?!? Err… I disagree. Faried vs Monroe would be a good one.

    I think people might take Batum and Brook Lopez in the 4th but I’m with ya, I don’t want that problem. Rose, Howard, Duncan, Wade, yep, not in the 4th… But you know people are going to draft Rose in the 3rd thinking they could get a 1st rounder out of him. Those people would be wrong…

    I like Markieff, Tobias, and TJones but yeah, just barely outside the top 50. 51-75 is going to have some fun players in it. Cough *Jordan Clarkson* Cough.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Slim: I guess I shoulda read your comment again 🙂 I guess I don’t like pigeonholing into steady as she goes with someone who I see as injury prone now. Like Ellis I’m fine with, but he’s been more durable, when he stays off mopeds.

      Yeah faried vs. monroe is close, I’ll have Faired early 50s so just a few apart.

      Batum I’d be more fine with, Lopez while better per-game just doesn’t get it with the risk.

      Mmmmm, T Jones 50s for me too. Tobias was on the short list for that final spot. I think those two/Faried/Conley are about the next 4. We’ll both be highest on Jones.

      • MAC says:
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        @JB Gilpin:
        same here, i expect conley to have a bounce back year with the contract in mind. rubio and payton are not for me. just like bigs that dont blk, pg that cant shoot 3s is just a turn off for me.

        i like monroe more, with faried being a headcase with the risk again of being in the doghouse and getting traded. and both are more targets for punt blks team especially monroe. monroe with a big chance of being griffin lite this year.

        i expect all of those players getting drafted in that range, and i definitely be happy with that. im not touching any of those guys.

        definitely getting tjones this year. tobias as well. in that order, tjones, tobias, kieff. expecting tjones to be a discount this year. gonna be undervalued.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @MAC: I think because I always look to stream 3s and can do pretty well in that regard, I don’t mind PG that don’t shoot 3s. I get my 3s and wings later in draft too. I just think Conley is so boring on top of a little injury prone now.

          I think Razzball will collectively do well avoiding all those duds haha. I’ll likely have Tjones about 51 or 52, he’s really close. He’s gonna be a big Razz fav

          • MAC says:
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            @JB Gilpin:
            same here, id definitely get a couple of wings last. and yeah, streaming 3s is the way to go. in drafts, i do focus first on pg and bigs early. maybe get a wing or 2 in the middle rounds if pg and big that i like next are big reach.

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @MAC: Yup, that will likely be my strategy as well! Ugh I better get some top picks this year in redrafts!

  3. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    You seem to have developed a bit of an unhealthy obsession with point guards who can’t shoot JB. Though maybe the issue is more about the number of professional basketball players manning the point that just flat out can’t shoot than it is about you. First there was MCW, then Rubio, and now Payton (and still Rubio). Without looking back I’m guessing you had Rondo pretty high too, cause he seems like a similar style PG. I’m with Slim, give me Conley over all those guys and over IT2tothe3 as well. Other than that the rankings look solid JB!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @MAC: @Slim: @A Hill O’ Beans: Wow, a little surprised at this Conley fervor! Scoring down to 15.8 last year, dimes to 5.4 without cutting down on TO, 1.5 treys is fine, but those steals have dried up to 1.3 – dropped three straight years. And after being mad durable, missed 9 in 13-14 and 12 last year, with a list of injuries like this at one point: https://twitter.com/peteredmiston/status/600378983364964352

      I dunno, I don’t see any upside, starting to look a little fragile especially with the kankles, and on BB Monster which I’ve been using for per-game/total value metrics, 52nd last year. He’s certainly high 50s, but I really don’t see much there for a top-50 pick

    • JB Gilpin

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Well my combo response went to you haha…

      I dunno about unhealthy! Rubio and Payton are both low volume, and I thought MCW would improve. Rondo I prob had too high, but his broken hand dropped him early enough pre-draft last year to keep me away haha.

      I do love my toolsy PG though, maybe if it blows up one more time in my face this year, I’ll take it on the chin! Thanks man! Can’t wait for REL…

      • A Hill O' Beans says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah can’t wait for REL to start up. I should have mentioned that I’m surprised Slim was able to talk you into having RainbOladipo in the top 50. I thought for sure you’d bury him, ha-ha.

        While we’re discussing my REL team (we were weren’t we?), I think if Noel can improve his FT shooting just a bit more he can really outperform that #40 rank. He jumped his FT% by 10% post AS Break, so I could see another 5% to get him to get him to 70%. His post AS Break numbers are pretty crazy!

        49% / 66% / 13 Pts / 10 Reb / 1.9 Ast / 2.1 Stl / 2.3 Blk

        While I’ve got you, are the Sixers waiting for their 50% off coupon to be good before getting surgery on Embiid? You know since they said he’d have it like three weeks ago? Which was before he was seen running and walking without a limp. What the heck is going on there?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @A Hill O’ Beans: Hah, yeah Slim did work his magic (hah!) on me for that one. I still don’t know if he’s quite worth that REL $ figure, but he probably is now. Still not a huge fan of his game as he’s more a pure SG now.

          Yup I def love Noel! I cited those numbers too! Did you skim through my Noel blurb?!?!?!??!! Haha. It’s not really a concern, but I think there’s a small cap to upside with Okafor sucking up the paint usage.

          Very weird Embiid hasn’t had it yet… Maybe he has and it’s like a black ops procedure… Maybe he had to give up his kidney for a foot transplant… There’s no way to know!

          • A Hill O' Beans says:
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            @JB Gilpin: oh I read your Noel blurb, but you did much more work than I did. I took the lazy, and smaller sample size, post all star break numbers vs your half season numbers. My numbers are even better, which I guess means he continued to improve even more. Can’t wait to see what he can do this year.

            I think I’ve gotta see what Oladipo can do this year in the REL at that price. I will say that I turned down an Oladipo, plus one more guy, deal last season that I wish I had made now. It was for a cheap guy that you’ve got ranked pretty high this year. Oh well, what can you do.

            • Slim

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              @A Hill O’ Beans: JBs lost his mind! At only 23 and still improving $26 is a bargain! If you let him walk he WILL go for more.

              I don’t get why JB is down on Favors either. 50% FG is great and I believe that’s his floor. He scores more than Whiteside, Jordan, and doesn’t hurt FTs nearly as bad. Blocks are strong. Nearly a steal per game, 2 ast. And a USG rate that climbed big time post Kanter trade. I have Favors well ahead of Whiteside and I like him much more than DeAndre assuming I’m not punting FTs. I think he’s more on par with the Gasol brothers. However… $44 in REL is too high, My Lillard is $36 and Wiggins is $38. I’m praying Favors gets released at that price. He’d become my top target and I’d be looking for him in the $30-$35 range.

              You are going to hate my projection for Noel. The FTs esp. He had one good month, 10 Feb games. In Jan he was .571, March he was .645, and the 4 April games he was .500 (only 5/10). My number is .635. But $12 is still a bargain and a half. And I assume the USG goes down next to Okafor so I’ve got his points at 11.5.

              I assume you aren’t keeping JV at $29 or Embiid at any price. I think I know what position you’re going to be targeting…

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:
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                @A Hill O’ Beans: @Slim: Sure Oladpio is a must keep… Of course I regret the deal, but needed dimes so bad at the time and Wroten was fine for a few weeks before he blew out his knee. I need one more pure PG in the draft, and if I kept Oladipo I guess I would have to throw back $40 Ibaka. Which wouldn’t be the end of the world. Meh, it was tough.

                Lively Favors vs. Whiteside debate on the Pod I don’t need to transcribe.

                Uggghhhhh Lillard/Wiggins core for you. Jealous. I tried to pry Wiggins from you so many times before he really took off.

                I WANT REL DRAFT TO BE TOMORROW

                • A Hill O' Beans says:
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                  @JB Gilpin: “I WANT REL DRAFT TO BE TOMORROW”

                  I hear that, ha-ha. Only reason I’m happy to wait is to see what’s up with Embiid….cause I’m still in denial, ha-ha.

                  • JB Gilpin

                    JB Gilpin says:
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                    @A Hill O’ Beans: Maybe it’s all an elaborate ruse!

              • A Hill O' Beans says:
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                @Slim: I’m torn up about Embiid, and I won’t say never until I actually see him have the surgery. Something odd going on with that whole situation. I was so looking forward to having him with all his upside at that great price.

                Jonas at $29, hmmm. As a Jonas guy its tough for me. He was 61st in value on Basketball Monster last year. Favors for comparison, who you say you’d pay up to $35 for, was 42nd. Jonas will be 23yo this season, and he did that 61st rank in just 26MPG. I guess I hold out hope either a) Casey will wise up and actually play him 30+ minutes, or b) Masai will wise up and fire Casey and then hire a coach who will actually use him (and call plays maybe).

                We’re talking about a guy who at 22yo led the team in TS% (.623), PER (20.6), TRB% (nobody else close), OWS (5.8), DWS (2.4), WS/48 (.189), and had almost the same FTr (.423) as DeRozan. And for all the flack he takes about turnovers his TOV% was better than 2/3 of the team. Of course Casey probably doesn’t know what half those stats are, so…

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                  @A Hill O’ Beans: Yeah we’ll talk more JV below since I saw your Rolo SLAM! but I don’t know if a or b happens. I think another low-minutes season is coming.

                  Haha Casey is completely lost, and still hung up on how fat Lowry is… A new team – I’d be all over some Luminescent Lithuanian!

  4. CTMN says:
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    I see the Rondo love from last year is gone…LOL just one mistake in the middle of a ton of good predictions, don’t worry about it

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @CTMN: Hah, well I’m sure there wer a few last year, but we had a good year overall! DrayDray baybay! Haha

  5. CTMN says:
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    You went for a lot of potential, which obviously makes sense…but I’m just too scared to take some of these guys that high. I really like Wiggins (I’ve met him multiple times in Toronto lol) but not at 21. Elfrid and Noel at those spots too.
    I think Rudy Gay might be negatively affected by Rondo, the guy just holds the ball…All. Game. Long. I’m staying away from Melo and Al Jefferson.
    I just don’t think Pau will put up those numbers again, and Mirotic might get some more minutes. But mainly because Pau’s 34 like you said and it just doesn’t make sense to be having career years at this point.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @CTMN: Yeah Wiggins is a scary one, but I decided I wanted him over Melo, and couldn’t drop Melo lower. Just so much upside. Elfrid I get too. Don’t know why the apprehension on Noel, he could be Josh Smith just without killing the cats that Smoove does haha.

      I think Gay is going to be overlooked as I mention. Rondo does hold the ball, but he doesn’t shoot it! Gay can take some quick pop shots, Rondo will shoot less than Collison does!

      I obviously don’t think Pau will either, or else he’d be top 10! I think mid-20s builds in enough regression

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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah I guess Gay and Pau are just too boring for me, which is ironic considering I said I’m scared to take Wiggins haha

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @CTMN: Haha yeah I get their boring-ness. It’s funny I have a couple boring guys high, and potential guys high. I think leaving out the obvious duds that only casual players would draft (Rose, Brook Lopez, Wade, etc.) it makes everyone look a tad different than on draft day boards

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            @JB Gilpin: Yeah I pretty much have a “do-not-draft” list in my head before every season – used to start with Andrew Bynum (LOL), now it’s Wade, D-Will, D-Rose, Brook, Rondo, also usually the guys coming off bad injuries (so no Paul George, but maybe KD if he’s there just cause he’s that good). I’m adding Al Jefferson, Joakim and Melo to that list, I’m not getting close to them.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @CTMN: Hah, damn I’m STILL mad about in our REL initial draft, I switched computers 40-50 guys in and it autopicked Bynum to me! For $8… So it didn’t matter that much, but geez!

              If George falls to me to 20, probably unlikely, I would. Jefferson I might get too, but only where I have him. Totally agree with the rest of that – only value I could see is D Will late

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                @JB Gilpin: Yeah also I forgot Kobe. It’s just if a risky guy falls, even if he’s worth the risk at the low spot, if he gets injured again, he probably wasn’t worth the risk right? If you follow that lol

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                  @CTMN: Oh yeah, not touching Kobe. Yeah totally follow that! Rose, Kobe, Wade all with a recent history of long prolonged injuries. Brook too. Can’t touch those guys

  6. hisXLNZ says:
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    RAZZUP FANTASY BASKETBALL UNIVERSE!!!!

    Love yer takes on this early rankings JB…. I like how bold you are with this and the thing is, I see most of these players falling into place as you have predicted, Mr. Nostradamus of NBA Fantasy….hehehe!

    I just have this yearly itch for the drafts that I cant seem to scratch away…. you see I create this setup for players according to their position(so got no problems when placing players on a day to day match). Always wanted my core-12 to be divided per conference, just to add some spice to the game for me.

    Don’t know if this will give you a better overview of what I want for my team. I am playing for a 9-Cat, 14 Team and the numbers beside their names pertains to the round in the draft I project to take them. Please correct this for me if you have time or if you have a better choice for me on each round. Thanks in Advance!

    Pac
    C bogut 11th
    PG/SG bknight 6th

    NW
    PF/C edavis 12th
    SG/SF hayward 4th

    SW
    SF/PF parsons 5th
    PG conley 3rd

    Atl
    C rlopez 9th
    SG/SF joejohn 10th

    SE
    PF/C milsap 2nd
    PG wall 1st

    Cen
    SF/PF jpark 8th
    PG/SG ghill 7th

    • JB Gilpin

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      @hisXLNZ: Hah thanks for reading man – I hope I get most of these right! I like to take risks as early as the mid rounds, so let’s hope most are solid!

      Well obviously a lot could change depending on where you pick. Earlier you wouldn’t get Wall, but love Millsap there in the 2nd any which way, and he’ll prob be there! Conley is going to be a big buzzy name for Razz this year since I don’t have him top 50. A lot of miles on his tires, missing games last two years, and numbers going down. the only other one I might avoid is Jabari in the 8th. They’ve already come out and said they’re going to watch his minutes closely and I don’t see a big season – maybe the 2nd half, but I’m still apprehensive.

      Rest is looking good this early, thanks for stopping by!

      • hisXLNZ says:
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        @JB Gilpin: nice take! If I’d probably take bledsoe on 3rd if available…. do u think jrue holiday would be available on the 6th rnd for most leagues? Whats yer take on hibbert, ilyasova vs morris, rlopez vs Valanciunas, edavis vs mason plumlee?

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          @hisXLNZ: sorry that morris in det…. hibbert vs tyson chandler vs bogut? TIA

          • JB Gilpin

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            @hisXLNZ: ohhhh yeah give me E Bled there too, love him this year. Ummm, yeah I think Jrue could be there. that sounds about right for him, really risky given his leg issues. Hibbert very meh, Ilyasova could be decent but I don’t think he’ll be back to the old Bucks days, that said he’s over Morris. I guess I’d take Hibbert over both for blocks, anything else Ily. I’ll lean Rolo over JVal, Valanciunas might not get over 26-27 mins again. I’ll take Big Ed – I can see Plumlee as a sleeper, but he has such bad fouling issues and a terrible FT shooter. Any time!

            • Slim

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              @JB Gilpin: Wow!!! RoLo over someone! I can’t believe it! Top 100 for Robin? JV should be pretty close to top 100 worthy, he is a metrics darling after all.

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                @Slim: Now he’s just being stubborn. Which guy does JB have a worse grudge against, ha-ha.

                JVal – 57% / 79% / 12.0 Pts / 8.7 Reb / 0.5 Ast / 0.4 Stl / 1.2 Blk
                RoLo- 55% / 81% / 11.3 Pts / 8.5 Reb / 0.9 Ast / 0.4 Stl / 1.7 Blk

                Pretty damn close I guess. Of course……those are JVs stats from last year, and the best RoLo has done in each category in any of the last 5 years. This is also ignoring the fact that RoLo has missed at least 15 games in 5/7 of his years in the league.

                • JB Gilpin

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                  @A Hill O’ Beans: Well, a few things here. The missed time I think is misleading, he broke his hand last year, 82 in both the seasons before that. Unlike clown foot Brolo, I think he’s fairly durable. Rolo’s blocks at a career high 1.7 I think is misleading too – 1.6/1.7/1.4 the past 3 years, and I see him close to 1.7 again in 30 mins. Boards is the biggie – had a spike in 13-14 – but I think with no REB hog like Aldridge down there, we could see 8 again. I don’t see JVal getting more minutes and something close to Rolo’s 13-14

                  • Slim

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                    @JB Gilpin: Yeah I’m with JB. I see a repeat of last year. Biyombo might actually get more minutes… The problem is JVs defense is pretty atrocious and I don’t think he fits next to Patterson at all. So Biyombo gets good minutes and I think he fits best next to Patterson since PitPat can stretch the floor which is seriously lacking in Toronto. Plus I think Carroll and James Johnson get minutes at PF which further muddies the water. I’ll project 28 minutes when I do his stats but I don’t feel all that good about even that. Also JV really doesn’t fit the league wide obsession with small ball lineups. If his pick and role defense improves then I’ll be on board big time. But I have to take a wait and see approach with that.

                    The reason I thought you would let JV go at $29 is because I think you could get him back for cheaper. Just like JB with his $40 Ibaka. He certainly won’t go for more, but I guess it is a little risky. I don’t think I could get my 2 mainstays any cheaper so I’ve got to hold.

                    Oh I think I know what the offer for Oladipo was. I won’t say who but I’m betting it was from Seth. I had a similar offer for Wiggins. I think you made the right choice and the savings wouldn’t have been a whole lot anyway. It wouldn’t shock me at all to see Oladipo out rank him when it’s all said and done.

                    • Slim

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                      @Slim: Oops I meant Greg Kite.

                    • JB Gilpin

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                      @Slim: Running outta room on this one! Agree on this obession with stretching the floor, Jval is kinda a dinosaur… Wait, he’s already a Raptor!

                      I’m not risking losing Ibaka. Ibaka+Whiteside for $41 is how I see it, and assures me winning blocks every week.

                      Wait, Oladipo outrank Wiggins?!?! Or whoever G Kite offered?

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Slim: @hisXLNZ: Ugh, yeah both are fringe 100ish. Knicks help Lopez

    • Slim

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      @hisXLNZ: The thing that sticks out is that I can’t imagine Hayward makes it to the 4th round in a 14er. That’s pick 43 at the earliest, he should be long gone. Everything else seems feasible. The others that might need backup plans are Parsons and GHill. They might not make it that far.

      • hisXLNZ says:
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        @Slim: I see, yeah with a 14 team’er league, you got a point….probably need to move my list and might be better to pick who’s the next best choice available….darn the long haul, wake me up when august and september ends….lol…..thanks!

  7. Jensen says:
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    I got your back JB. Down with Conley! I guess people are hoping for the rainbow lines but I just don’t see taking him over RJaxx or Peyton. They both showed flashes down the stretch last year that they could be dominant. As you mentioned in both blurb’s they each ended the season on some great 20ish game runs. That is a big enough sample size for me to comfortably say they should have similar season lines to what they were going at the end of the season. Esp RJaxx who will have one more shooter to pass too and one less log in the paint to work around.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jensen: Wooooo, you and me man, we’ll fight off the masses! I can’t see it either, but he’s not even a full round below them either, it’s not like Conley is outside the top 100! As we talked it on the Pod we just did, Conley not making an arbitrary top 50 cutoff isn’t too different than having him 45 vs. say 51 or 52.

  8. Bgrizzle says:
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    Final year of a keeper league if you had to choose which one would it be?

    Wiggins in the 6th or R.Jackson in the 12th

    I was all set to lock in R.Jackson but seeing you put Wiggins in the top 20 not to mention the none love for Rjax has be second guessing my pick. Reggie still seems like the logical safe pick but no ones got time for that if you wanna win it all right?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Bgrizzle: So what do you mean by final year? i.e. both only have one year left, or this is the last year of the league? Either way I think it’s Wiggins indeed. You get the better player at still a pretty good value. And you only keep one right? So just giving up one 6th Rd pick doesn’t hurt you too much

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Its the final year of a keeper league.

        I understand that Wiggins is the better player but isn’t Rjax the better value at the 12th pick? Can you explain your train of though cuz mine seems kinda basic. By getting Rjax at the 12th round and your ADP in the 40’s I see getting a plays 8 rounds better than everyone else and only 4 rounds better by choosing Wiggins with my 6th pick. Is this the wrong way of thinking???

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Bgrizzle: Ummm, the pick is definitely really close. Slim and I actually mentioned this to each other right after the Pod, and agreed Wiggins in 4th it would be Rjax. I think the superstar potential of a guy worth a 2nd round pick vs. a guy drafted in the 4th round, is worth the difference of a 6th round pick vs a guy in the 12th. And it’s more like 7th vs. 13th since a lot of good players are getting kept. I don’t think your way is necessarily wrong, but the higher you go is worth a wider difference later in drafts. Another way to think of it is Anthony Davis in the 6th or Wiggins in the 12th. Davis is worth so much more than the savings of 6 rounds

  9. Philzilla says:
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    Danny Galinari over Giannis? You’re Crazy with a capital what the f? Conley missing is defensible. Giannis out of the top 50 is not.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Philzilla: Hmmm, interesting. Am I crazy question mark? Glad I’m not crazy with an exclamation! BB Monster has Giannis all the way down to 93rd per game. Didn’t develop 3s. Dimes didn’t come up too much. Under 2 combined stl+blk (1.9, but still)… He’s *good* across the board – well across most of it – but not great anywhere and I expect him to keep improving, but I don’t see him cracking the top 50. 2.1 TO was a tad too high too with his line like that, for 9-cat

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        @JB Gilpin: You know what’s funny is that I almost made this same comment until I looked at his numbers. He is one of those guys that I think we as fans see the physical tools and lose our minds. However, one of my buddies is keeping Giannis over Peyton and I am VERY excited to steal Peyton from him. After doing some soul searching (as a Bucks fan) Giannis is probably around 70 for me. He just isn’t going to score in that offense. And as much as I love the player, his game doesn’t load up the fantasy stat sheet.

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          @Jensen: The dude was only 19 last year and Kidd kept him on a short leash. I think his leash gets a little longer this year. I think he makes improvements across the board especially in the 3 pt. department. I’m probably a little more bullish on him since I own him in a keeper league.

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          @Jensen: Also he might score and assist even less with Monroe coming in, who likes to have the ball and create shots, and Jabari coming back

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Jensen: @Philzilla: @CTMN: Ohhh yeah def give me Payton. Agree he’s phenomenal to watch, but he’s not in the best system. I was talking with Slim, and I was struggling for even top 75.

            I just don’t know if he’s in the right spot to develop the 3s yet. Parker/Middleton/whoever the hell they play at PG all have to be out there. Parker more for deeper mid-range, but yeah. Jabari is the big one that hurts upside as CTMN mentions.

  10. Dante Green says:
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    Is Drummond really a better pick than Whiteside? Just like you with Rubio, I think Whiteside and I have really something remarkably special….. HAHA. I was one of the many who was able to snag him off of waivers last season and got emotionally attached to him eversince… LOL but seriously tho, who would you pick between the two? Maybe if I could land the top 2 pick, I’ll get Harden, and then Bledsoe next, then in the 3rd rd, Whiteside. That’s pretty much my core, hope the fantasy gods hear my prayers. Lol

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Dante Green: Hahaha, I know the feeling! Yeah I think Drummo is a tad more in boards and chips in steals. I think it’s gotta be Drummo for those steals. Ohhhh that’d be a sick start! Might end up being a semi-TO punt team, so I’d certainly look for TO prone guys after that others might avoid

  11. UltraKzilla says:
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    I hope your ranking of Danny green is echoed in adp, I would laugh all the way to the bank if I could only spend a little to get him. I suspect however that as the season gets closer he will be back on your list and high in adp.

    Let’s look at this:
    *averages +4 3s/stl/blk this last season
    *minutes will be trending up without reliable bench options behind him
    *shooters around Aldridge known to prosper (Wes Mathews)

    All in all, Green should AT THE LEAST match his stats from last year, and possibly exceed them – which would put him firmly in the top 20-30 player value.

    Money.in.the.bank.

    (Drops mic)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @UltraKzilla: I dunno man, Aldridge and his 7th in the NBA usage really hurt upside. I disagree his minutes are going to go up, even with a thinner bench. It might have less quality, but the Spurs weren’t that good early on and should be great all year in 15-16. I expect the treys to fall to closer to 2, and Green isn’t quite the offensive guy Matthews is. Strongly disagree he is matching 14-15. Career-high 9.1 shots last year I don’t see going up with a guy shooting as much as Aldridge, a shot-hog the Spurs really haven’t seen.

      We will see!

      (puts mic back on the stand)

      • CTMN says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah Matthews is much better than Green (when healthy). He has some post game, more versatile mixing it up on offense. That’s part of why he got such a bigger contract (the other part being that Green took less to stay on the Spurs)

        • JB Gilpin

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          @CTMN: Yup, I will have Green ahead of Matthews this year for sure – Green is a better glue/role guy, Matthews can cary at stretches

          • UltraKzilla says:
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            @JB Gilpin: So you’d rather have a player coming off one of the most devestating injuries a player could have over a guy who had a great year, but did not have consistent minutes, who is now going to have that minute to minute consistency?

            Also, sure LaMarcus had high usage – in portland. Now he is with the spurs and will presumably play the “spurs way” which these days is kicking to the open man… who will oftentimes be Danny Green.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @UltraKzilla: I just strongly disagree with several of your premises:

              1. Gallinari isn’t healthy. (he showed he was more than healthy in the 2nd half, just turned 27 literally today, and now has a healthy off-season)
              2. Gallinari is just off one of “devastating injuries a player could have”. (he had ACL in April 2013 = not recent. I don’t know why you’re trying to call this “coming off of”. He had a meniscus injury in 2014 which isn’t “devastating”. As shown by the 2nd half).
              2. Danny Green is getting more minutes. (I don’t see why we’d assumed that, especially since you use “Spurs way” to found a later argument)
              3. Aldridge will suddenly be pass first. (you don’t bend all your money/bargaining power to bring in NBA’s 7th in usage player to kick out to 3-pt shooters, mainly Green…?)

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