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The big men!  You can’t win without a good center!  …just tell the Sixers that…

Center offers some of the biggest variables in fantasy hoops.  E’rybody out hurr loves to punt that FT%!  But you also have Boogie making you punt TO, you HAVE to get good FG% guys if you wanna stay balanced with your shooting, and if you draft too many of the swatters early, you’re probably hurting for points later.  One thing that has become interesting – it seems like there’s more streamable blocks on the wire these days.  Biyombo, John Henson, etc. etc.  Just look how long my “Late round flier”  Tier is!  So don’t waive the white flag if you feel like your swats are too low by your final rounds, or even coming out of the draft.  Here’s the top C for the 2016-17 fantasy basketball season, in tiers:

The “First rounders” Tier:

C RANK OVERALL RANK PLAYER, TEAM, AGE POS NOTE
1 5 Karl-Anthony Towns, MIN (20) C Along with all the normal sexiness (Pts/FG%/Reb/Blk), he upped his Ast from 1.4 to 3.0 pre and post ASB in his rookie season. He’s unreal.
2 6 Anthony Davis, NO (23) PF, C If we knew Brow would play 75+ games I migggghhhht lean him over KAT, but we all know the risk. GET THE PELS NEW MEDICAL PEOPLE!
3 9 Hassan Whiteside, MIA (27) C Final 37 games, 3.9-5.4 FT good for 73.2%. On top of leading the league in blocks, if he hits his FT, he’s easily gonna be a first rounder. And no, this rank isn’t under the duress of an elbow to the noggin.

The “…To punt, or not to punt?!” Tier:

C RANK OVERALL RANK PLAYER, TEAM, AGE POS NOTE
4 16 DeMarcus Cousins, SAC (26) PF, C Missed 40 games the past two seasons, FT% came crumbling down around a huge volume, and without Rondo, look for Boogie to turn it over like the good ol’ days as well. Not close to a first-rounder for me anymore.
5 20 DeAndre Jordan, LAC (28) C 4/5/3 playoff sched from a guy that almost never misses games. FT-punt is giving me a lot more interest after seeing DJ came out at 3rd overall when you take out FT% last year. Two cats in the bank for the quarters and semis of the H2H playoffs.
6 21 Andre Drummond, DET (23) C Still emerging, love his post game, but I like DJ’s playoff sched and blocks a smidge more.
7 22 Brook Lopez, BKN (28) C Injury risk seems to be by the wayside, but Ol’ Clownfoot is on an ugly Nets team on a fairly-friendly contract. Got shut down last year. A trade at the deadline would hurt.
8 23 Kristaps Porzingis, NY (21) PF, C The Posion Goose! Only rookie to score more than 1,000 points, grab 500-plus rebounds, make 75-plus 3-pointers and block more than a 100 shots. USG may hurt next to Melo/Rose, but he’ll still get his, and get dem swats on top of everything.
9 24 Al Horford, BOS (30) PF, C The way B-Rad runs rotations, I’m a little worried about the minutes being 29-30. Slim has more faith. His game is suited for a long career, but I worry about some early Boston meshing as well.
10 25 Blake Griffin, LAC (27) PF, C Disaster 15-16, but BG is playing for a contract (he’ll likely get max either way, but ya know) and I think bounces back fine, as long as you’re not on the Clip staff and clown him at dinner.
11 30 LaMarcus Aldridge, SA (31) PF, C Slim dislikes Aldridge with a Patrick Patterson-esque fury, but LA was 9th in per-game last year the final 31 games, and scores with a big volume of great FG% with virtually no TO. Being on the old Spurs is annoying though…

The “Some sexy young guns and some ugly ass old people (cough, Pau, cough!)…” Tier:

C RANK OVERALL RANK PLAYER, TEAM, AGE POS NOTE
12 32 Gorgui Dieng, MIN (26) PF, C Choo Choo! Who’s with me on the hype train?! Through games 14-82 – 10.8/7.5/2.0/1.1/1.2 with 53.9% from the field and 82.6 FT%. That was only in 28:30 MPG and not starting half those games. I think Slim is a little light on the projection with upside to play huge minutes for Tibby Tibs.
13 33 Rudy Gobert, UTA (24) C Monsieur Elbow was Le Poo last year, that’s for sure! FIBA ball apparently ruined his conditioning, and he tore his knee at one point. But he bounced back quick from injury – good to see for a big – and still has elite big man skills. Nice fallback FT-punt option.
14 35 Kevin Love, CLE (27) PF, C Small steps up in per-minute stats, Love has gone from injury-plagued first rounder to low-upside mid-rounder. Might make your leaguemates fall asleep with this pick.
15 36 Serge Ibaka, ORL (26) PF, C Blocks dropping, turning into a jump shooter that is hurting FG%… He was clearly out of my top-50 pre-trade, but has some great upside for an expanded offensive role in ORL.
16 37 Derrick Favors, UTA (25) PF, C Favors would be 10 higher if not for back-to-back seasons with back-to-back spasms. Also the blocks didn’t come along like we thought… Love his game, hate the risk.
17 41 Pau Gasol, SA (36) PF, C Old and Spurs, go together like hangovers and carnival rides. You just have to build in a lot of regression, especially in minutes, but he can still be top-50 serviceable.
18 45 Nikola Jokic, DEN (21) PF, C The love is starting to get strong for this one! In per-game/per-36 min stats, he was 13th in the NBA last year. And not like he played mop up minutes, he started a ton, just Mike Malone wouldn’t play him. Gives you a legit 9-cat impact, even though no one stat shines.
19 48 Nikola Vucevic, ORL (25) PF, C I thought I was going to be a smidge above consensus on Ibaka, but turns out I don’t want any part of the Magic frontcourt after all, especially Vuch. Any lapses on D, and Bis is gonna get the Business!
20 49 Nerlens Noel, PHI (22) PF, C Still the allure of 2/2 STL/BLK! Sixers keep saying one of the bigs will be gone – make a deal already!

The “Major upside, but major question marks (except silly Gortat, he’s boring)” Tier:

C RANK OVERALL RANK PLAYER, TEAM, AGE POS NOTE
21 56 Marc Gasol, MEM (31) C The bone in his foot he broke is a really tricky one for big men, and he couldn’t even run as of June 5th. There is confirmation there will be DNPs and minutes limits to open the season, but if he can stay healthy through winter, I expect his game to come back into form when you’re in the playoffs.
22 61 Jonas Valanciunas, TOR (24) C The Luminescent Lithuanian’s per-game fantasy rank always looks purdy next to his MPG, but given an injury history, I don’t automatically think no Biyombo = 30+ MPG. I like him, don’t get me wrong! But I don’t have that Canadian love…
23 63 Marcin Gortat, WAS (32) C The Ten Foot Pole is about to be an Eleven Year Pro, but that ain’t stopping me! He’s finished in the top-50 in the past few seasons – yes it’s metrics-whoreish – but even with a few less MPG, I think this is good value.
24 64 Jusuf Nurkic, DEN (22) C In 17 MPG, Jamba Jus got to 1.4 BLK, 0.8 STL and has some really underrated playmaking ability as a post-passer. I think his %s take big hikes up, and even if he’s only at 24-25 MPG, I think can be a win at this rank.
25 70 Myles Turner, IND (20) PF, C From game 41-82, i.e. the “legit” 2nd half of the season, he went 12.2/6.4/0.9/0.5/1.7 in 26.6 MPG, shooting 49.7% from the field, 73.9% from the stripe, and only committing 1.4 TO. Seasonal numbers get jacked up due to low minutes out of the gate and coming off the broken thumb prior to this run.
26 73 Dirk Nowizki, DAL (38) PF, C I’m glad I’m including ages, because that explains the only reason why The Gerimator is this low. He stands the test of time, but we’ll see if he can hold up another full NBA season.

The “As T.I. would say, ‘You can have whatever you like!’ ” Tier:

C RANK OVERALL RANK PLAYER, TEAM, AGE POS NOTE
27 82 Enes Kanter, OKC (24) C Anemic in AST/STL/BLK, the upside for a 20/10 season with a good FG% keeps him well ahead of the 100 range.
28 90 Ryan Anderson, HOU (28) PF, C Ryno, the ThraAGNOF bigman dyno! If you get 70 games of his 3PTM/C combo, you’re happy.
29 95 Joakim Noah, NYK (31) PF, C Goromotaro! I do like his upside for dimes continuing to play with Rose, but even if this is looking FANTASTIC through 20 games, I would sell immediately due to brittleness.
30 97 Greg Monroe, MIL (26) PF, C I have to rank him somewhere, although admittedly this hate might be going too far. I worry where he lands in an inevitable trade, as the Bucks hate him.
31 99 Markieff Morris, WAS (27) PF, C FG% went WAY up even though he took more 3s, TO way down, and same STL/BLK after getting to the Wiz. Still only 27, with a full offseason with the new crew, there could be something here.
32 107 Jared Sullinger, TOR (24) PF, C The Raptors desperately need deep shooting from guys other than Lowry (and I guess Carroll), but at well under 30% from downtown in his career, I think it could get a little ugly, and I don’t think we see this huge 1+/1+ STL/BLK season either.
33 108 Robin Lopez, CHI (28) C Worst player in basketball! He is what he is, a nice nab for big man depth in non-FT punt builds.
34 109 Dwight Howard, ATL (30) PF, C Obviously a fun FT punt asset if he lasts this long, but the TO issues, injury-proneness, and changing to another team worry me a smidge. I think the resurgence season last year was an anomaly to his career trends.
35 112 Clint Capela, HOU (22) PF, C More D’Antoniiiii! Obviously a must-draft for FT punters; for other builds, the upside in Boards-n-Blocks is capped a little due to the drain.
36 117 Jahlil Okafor, PHI (20) C Surprised me as a rookie with over a block/per and a non-killing FT%, but I hate their big man mix and all the issues he had mostly off the court.

The “Late round flier” Tier:

C RANK OVERALL RANK PLAYER, TEAM, AGE POS NOTE
37 121 Mason Plumlee, POR (26) PF, C 4.8 dimes in the postseason, and shot 64.2% at the stripe which is a big step forward. Maybe he can be a sneaky C dimes source, and has played all 82 the past 2 years.
38 124 Zach Randolph, MEM (35) PF, C We know about what we’ll get, and he barely turns it over, for a PTS/REB source I would buy at this point.
39 130 Bismack Biyombo, ORL (24) PF, C Not investing in the ORL frontcourt, but there’s obviously Boards-n-Blocks usability with your last pick or two here. Even if he’s coming off the bench, it should be for good minutes.
40 132 Zaza Pachulia, GS (32) C Pizza arms! Up until Feb 19th in 15-16, he was 10/10.9/2/1/0.3 before they massively scaled back his minutes. Should fit a nice boarding need for the Golden State NBA All Stars of the West Warriors.
41 133 Steven Adams, OKC (23) C Despite low-volume, vastly improved his %s and AST:TO last year. I’m not sure the volume goes up a ton though, making him barely above the streaming class.
42 134 Amir Johnson, BOS (29) PF, C Sneaky punt-FT target with a great FG% and bad FTs. I was surprised to actually like Amir this year, but with no Sully, there isn’t heavy-hitting PF to really rival Amir’s role. Love dem D stats.
43 136 Al Jefferson, CHA (31) PF, C Big Al has big tread on the big tires, but could easily go 11/6 with low TO for a backend big. But hopefully someone else in your league nabs him higher for name value 🙂
44 137 Kenneth Faried, DEN (26) PF, C You’re probably hoping for a trade to be honest… Even in a low MPG role out of the gate if he’s still in DEN, I think there’s enough for early-season ownership.
45 138 Alex Len, PHO (23) PF, C Only gets ranked here due to upside – he was a trainwreck when a starter last year, and projected to still come behind grandpa Tyson. More a stash-and-hope.
46 142 Timofey Mozgov, LAL (30) C If he gets to 28 MPG, he could get 1.5 blocks and a few boards, but health has been an issue and I have no faith in the Lakers not to screw the pooch somehow.
47 144 Taj Gibson, CHI (31) PF, C With Noah and Pau outta there, there’s a shot for 28-29 MPG with a 9/9 1.3 BLK sort of line, with a great FG%. Low end, but usable.
48 148 Tyson Chandler, PHO (33) C Very usable 10.1/9.4/0.9/0.6/0.8 run over his last 24 games, shooting 67.8%. Injuries and age knock him down a round or two, but I’d be fine with him as my last pick.
49 150 Ivica Zubac, LAL (19) C Sexy upside time! Mozgov is obviously bleh, and Zubac was unreal in Summer Ball, with low TO, awesome %s, and game-changing D.
50 151 Andrew Bogut, DAL (31) C We know the Bogut schtick by now – steals and blocks, bad FT, legs made of glass.
51 152 Cody Zeller, CHA (23) PF, C Even with Big Al replaced by a worthless Roy Hibbert, I don’t see a big climb in MPG. I think they swing Frank the Tank to some C minutes and Hawes might get some run there too. Volume is just too low to perk me up.
52 155 John Henson, MIL (25) PF, C Well, an OBVIOUS FT target, and a Monroe trade locked in stone boosts HIM up a bit!
53 159 Bobby Portis, CHI (21) PF, C Shooting for the upside here – when unleashed the D stats didn’t come too strong, but he can hit FT and treys. Give him run, Rolo sucks!

The “Undraftable in 12ers” Tier:

C RANK OVERALL RANK PLAYER, TEAM, AGE POS NOTE
54 163 Willie Cauley-Stein, SAC (23) PF, C 0.7/1.0 STL/BLK was AWESOME in 21:23 MPG last year, but 5.3 REB? And I don’t know if we see that MPG jump with Joerger saying Matt Barnes is gonna play some 4.
55 165 Tristan Thompson, CLE (25) PF, C You know what you get here – and I would’ve had him even lower if not for 82 games played the past 4 seasons – durable rock for deepers though!
56 171 Joel Embiid, PHI (22) C Who the F knows what’ll happen here?! A big man trade in the preseason might boost him a tad for me, but it’s not like the Sixers will ever unleash him his rookie year. Hoping to catch lighting (aka blocks) in a bottle.
57 179 Ed Davis, POR (27) PF, C I’d like Big Ed more if I wasn’t a Plumlee buyer, but 0.7/0.9 STL/BLK and 7.4 boards is maybe replicable, although I could see a few less minutes if they expand Mason.
58 181 Brandan Wright, MEM (28) PF, C Gets a flier rank due to possible starts coming if Gasol misses any time or second legs of b2bs. Has injury issues of his own and can’t play a ton of minutes in a game, so even in non-Gasol games, upside is a little capped.
59 183 Ian Mahinmi, WAS (29) C I obviously still have faith in Gortat playing 28-30 MPG, so not much else is left for Mahinmi. Had a breakout last year as a starter, so maybe he can rack up stats in lower minutes against second units?
60 193 Meyers Leonard, POR (24) PF, C Just does nothing in AST/STL/BLK and is a bench player. Meh.
61 200 Patrick Patterson, TOR (27) PF, C Mr. irrelevant! Although, he was about to be out of the ranks until The Duchess got hurt… Meh, we know what he is, blah stats but gets em across the board with low TO.
  1. Foreign Affairs says:
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    As long as that late round flier tier is I feel like center is a position that gets dodgy pretty fast this year for anything outside 12 team leagues or ones with bigger rosters. Unless your punting ft% it feels like you quickly run out of options at center were you can look at a player and go boy do I really have to fill those Center spots on my roster.

    I got to say the rookies this year are not looking to good so far outside of Buddy for standard leagues though holy crap if/when? Embiid gets to be released from his bubble wrap this year he looks like he could be a monster, small sample size alert but he made Zeller look last night like that trainer that was guarding him in those youtube videos, he’s just so massive and fast for that size.

    Also seeing the warriors these two preseason games I think Steph, Durant and Dray might need to be in the same conversation as Klay has in terms negative impact to there fantasy games, it’s looking like theres going to be quite a few blowout games against weaker teams(hi Brooklyn) were someone or all of them don’t produce as much as were used to before the starters call it a night. Im starting to feel like its Harden,Westbrook and even Towns if he stays on course before Steph,Durant this year.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Foreign Affairs: Sorry, Spam ate this comment up 🙂 Yeah I saw the 3 abnd the fade, didn’t see the block though, nasty! Got him to 163, it’s less about per-minute talent and more about them controlling minutes and sitting him b2bs

    • kb says:
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      @Foreign Affairs:
      agree, i had been trying to wait until 7th/8th to pick up a second center, but it just doesn’t work. i hate that yahoo standard leagues have 2 center spots too.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Foreign Affairs: @kb: Yeah that tier surprised me how long it was. Agree Embiid looks awesome, but it was for such small minutes in an early preseason game. No way he plays a ton game to game, and will have numerous DNPs.

        Same with GS, still preseason 🙂 It’ll be tougher in the reg.

        • Foreign Affairs says:
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          @JB Gilpin: Yeah I might be jumping the gun with my personal REL bias in regards to him, though him looking that good despite not playing for over 2 years is really promising and I think even if his minutes only get up to 20 a game he has a chance at close too 2 blks a game so he’ll be streamable blks atleast.

          Hope so for the warriors, despite Doc’s quote about them coming to play an exhibition game and the warriors coming to play a game there was quite a few times I saw at the start with that green/durant/klay/steph line up where the clipper starters had the look of “I got to double here wait noo I can’t leave any of these guys open”. I really don’t know how your supposed to guard that line up unless you clone abunch of Kawhi’s.

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Foreign Affairs: Hah REL bias is REAL! But yeah totally agree he could be a hold for blocks alone, I think I said about as much in his rank. I moved him up about 15 with the SImmons injury helping to clear up the minutes picture.

            Hah, a team of 5 Kawhis would DOMINATE!

  2. Adam

    Adam says:
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    Why ya hatin on the sharp shootin Ro-Lo?? Rondo at #1 and Robin down at 33??? Shame on you!

    • bgrizzle says:
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      @Adam:

      I’m all about building teams that excel in Blocks but also excel in FT% and for that Ro-lo is always on my list of draft day targets. Right now the rotation is scaring my off a big but if Gibson is traded do you think Lopez could get 30mins a game?

      • Adam

        Adam says:
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        @bgrizzle: Haha, this post was just to mess with JB. As for the question though, I don’t see Gibson getting traded, since this is a win now team, but I could see Lopez getting up to 30 mins. I highly doubt he’d get more than that though. 25-28 range seems right for now. Especially if he can keep capitalizing from midrange. I do like him for that build though.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @bgrizzle: @Adam: Yeah, agree with 25-28 MPG. I don’t know if Rolo “excels” in blocks though, if it goes down to 1.4 like in POR, then it’ll be blah. But CHI should be a good defensive team. Maybe I hate on Rolo too much 🙂

          Hah yeah I def have Rondo as my #1 PG!

          • Adam

            Adam says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Not a whole lot of centers at that range that contribute something without killing a category. Maybe Zaza? but no blocks there. Ro-Lo is unexciting, but great for non punt builds.

            Plus that college 3 point shooting yo!

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @Adam: Hah yeah he is a safe blocks source late that doesn’t hurt you. Still a blah player to me tho haha

  3. MJC says:
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    JB, are you or anyone else fun to beat in this step bros league?

      • MJC says:
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        @Jon Proudfoot: I jumped in already. Looking forward to it either way

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Jon Proudfoot: @MJC: C’mon Razzball Nation, Prestige Worldwide needs ya! I’ll put this on Twitter again

          • Nick says:
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            @JB Gilpin:

            2.5 hours till draft time and we still need 3 more spots…not looking good!

            • Jon Proudfoot says:
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              @Nick: Come on Razzball readers, just need 2 more and then JB will hopefully jump in and take the last spot. Bring your friends to the league and to Razzball!

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:
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                @Nick: @Jon Proudfoot: Oh it’s looking great now! BOATS n HOES!!!!!

  4. HisXLNZ says:
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    Razzzzzup!!!! Do you think it’s wise at this time to stash Chris bosh or kris Middleton on an IR spot?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @HisXLNZ: Razzup man?! Mehhhhh, probably not, I mean if you have that IL spot open, then sure I might nab Middleton, but as soon as you have injuries, Middleton is likely gone

  5. Joe says:
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    Aaaaaand I’m back! So this year in my league I get to keep 3. I’m keeping Gobert as my 9th rounder, and Porzingis as my 10th rounder. I was going to keep Duchess too but then he got hurt. I can keep one more and here are my choices (I’m leaning towards Collison but can be swayed). It’s a 9-cat league.

    Darren Collison – 11th round (is the discount worth him missing the first two weeks?)
    Gary Harris – 11th round (poor man’s Redick, with some upside due to efficiency)
    Marcus Morris – 11th round (had a pretty good run at the end of last season)
    Nicolas Batum – 5th round (seems like his ceiling)
    Marcin Gortat – 3rd round (seems particularly steep)
    John Wall – 1st round (#10 pick. Early given shooting and TOs but floor is probably high)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Joe: Yo whats up man?! Whoa, awesome start, with the twin towers!

      Yeahhhh, I am not a Collison fan due to his off the court, but 8 games is a slap on the wrist. I am begrudgingly moving him up in my ranks as well. He’s my pick for ya too

  6. Scott says:
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    Just for the record, ESPN ranks Aaron Gordon ridiculously low.

    Anyhoo, let’s play “guess what I’m punting?” with this mock:

    Steph Curry
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Nikola Jokic
    Trevor Ariza
    Gorgui Dieng
    Aaron Gordon
    Jabari Parker
    Wesley Matthews
    Elfrid Payton
    Jerryd Bayless
    Nikola Mirotic
    Will Barton
    Jared Sullinger

    • Adam

      Adam says:
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      @Scott: You seem to be allergic to blocks!

      • Scott says:
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        @Adam: Ding ding! Hopefully I didn’t hurt FG% too much. Maybe I should have gone Fournier over Ariza?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Adam: @Scott: Yeah given you need AST more than STL at that point, I woulda Fournier. I actually could see you win blocks some weeks though! Dieng/Jokic/Aldridge/Miro with some swat weeks? Haha

  7. Philzilla says:
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    Dude your love of Zubac is hilarious. Next year bro.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Philzilla: We gotta try to keep the site funny! But I’ll take a last round pick on him in 12ers, why not? Would be lower in deep leagues since he might do nothing and you need you bench to work right away, but these ranks are for 12ers

      • Adam

        Adam says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I’d rather have Bogut and stream when he’s injured… Bogut is a bit low considering his production when healthy.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Adam: Mehhhhh, bad FT, FG% means nothing on absurdly low volume, soooo injury prone, might sit b2bs, no thanks

          • Adam

            Adam says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Zubac might sit the majority of the season… I’ll take my sitting b2bs thank you very much!

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @Adam: Maybe, but these are 12er ranks. I take a flier and cut him 2 weeks in and it means nothing, you’re cutting 80% of your last 2 or 3 picks anyway…

  8. Nont Nontiskul says:
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    Hi jb, in auction draft. Should I draft Gianni’s around 55-60 or. Bledsoeor or dipo + goose for around 65 ish? It’s 20 man deep league

    • Slim

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      @Nont Nontiskul: Deap league and at that price i’ll take Oladipo and Goose.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Nont Nontiskul: @Slim: Sorry if we missed ya, but I agree the pair in that deep a league is worth it over Giannis

  9. kb says:
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    wow @ jamychal green to start over zbo

    • Slim

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      @kb: He is 35 years old… I think he still plays decent minutes and JaMychal plays no other position so maybe a 20/28 or 22/26 split in ZBos favor.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @kb: @Slim: I’d lean more to the 22/26, but Zbo reportedly playing some C helps. I moved Green even further up. Kinda mad this news hit early so everyone will copy me!

  10. Chad says:
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    Thanks for these rankings! Like I said, I’m new to the site and am really digging it so far. I’d love to see your take on keeper rankings.

    Hoping I can hit up one more question: I asked earlier about my last two keepers and you were a great help but things changed a bit. I flipped N Noel, T Harris, and an early pick (I have three first rounders) for L Aldridge and Rubio. Not everyone’s favorite, and he’s 31, but I like what he does and he fits with my plan (dominate just enough cats to get the W in my H2H league). That leaves my locked 5 as Cousins, Drummond, Aldridge, Wiggins, and McCollum.

    My question is do I keep Rubio, Parsons, or Beal in that last spot? I have the second pick and WAS going to take Ingram but now I think I’m left to decide between Simmons and Dunn. Part of me says keep Rubio and draft Dunn at #2. Am I crazy?

    Thanks for taking the time to even look at this!

    • Slim

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      @Chad: Keeper rankings are really tough because league settings really come into play, esp how many to keep and at what price.

      Oh man you are gonna hate my response… Keep Rubio and Parsons lose Aldridge. If you HAVE to keep Aldridge then Rubio. FT% is shot though with Drummond so I think that puts Parsons ahead for sure. Yeah i know the injury risk is there but how about the Spurs benching Aldridge at times late in the year.

      Tough call on the rookie. If you think you can win and hold Simmons then… killer injury. OK. Its Dunn. He’s a really good looking player and should be big time with the steals which is a bit of a need.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Chad: @Slim: Thanks so much man, appreciate ya dropping by! Yeah what Slim said re: keepers, there’s so many variables league to league it’s tough to make a great rankings set.

        I like Rubio too. Damnnnn, I kinda agree. Parsons fits the build better.

        If you’re holding Rubio, I kinda like getting Dunn, so you lock those minutes down with whatever happens there

      • Chad says:
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        Man, thanks again. And while the LA hate hurts, honesty and conflicting opinions is what’s great about this site. While the occasional benchings in close games concerns me, the overall spike in numbers during the second half gives me hope. I’m also curious is Gasol helps space things out a bit more and presents more low post opportunities. Oh, and he never turns the ball over which is awesome.

        If Ingram happens to be there take him for sure right?

        Anyway, great analysis and food for thought. Very much appreciated.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Chad: Any time! Yeah it’s just how he fits in a FT punt more than anything. Totally agree that Aldridge I think has a big year, I’m higher on him than Slim, but I like the other 2 for the build.

          Nahhhhh, I still kinda like Dunn! Especially since you’ll own Rubio and have his insurance policy, but also because I think Ingran is a little overrated

  11. Travis says:
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    Not sure if this is the place to ask, but I’m wondering if Razz Ball is planning to do an article on auction values. I know they have in the past, and maybe they just haven’t gotten around to it yet, but that would be sweet if they did. Some of the best basketball minds around.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Travis: Yup happening very soon! I am pushing out a big rankings update tomorrow, then likely the auction value post either Friday or Monday.

      Damn, wow, really appreciate that man, we try!

      • Travis says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Of course!! Blogsters do so much work that gets unappreciated.

        By the way, as long as you are reading these, I have a quick question if you wouldn’t mind answering. No worries either way.

        I run a 20 team live auction league. 8 categories (no turnovers). Other categories standard.

        Am I right to think that Harden (in this format) is a beast? I just think with D-Antoni there, and him running the point, he is gonna have a monster season. Plus he is just so reliable. What do you think?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Travis: Hah well we try! Comments and interaction with the readers is what keep us goin 🙂

          Yup, 100% correct. Harden in 8 cat is my no question #1, Westbrook my no question #2. Westbrook doesn’t give the 3s being the difference, but either one I think gives you a monster edge, I would break the bank on either in an auction

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      @Jon Proudfoot: Nice one – made it to a full house! “Did we just become best friends?”

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        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Jon Proudfoot: Haha I hope some of the other teams change their names!

  12. mak says:
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    hey in a 8 person 9 cat h2h league. i had the 3rd pick. do i need to make any moves?

    Harden
    Millsap
    Lowry
    Bledsoe
    brook lopez
    gorgui
    dragic
    marc gasol
    fournier
    shroeder
    nurkic
    lin
    covington

    • JB Gilpin

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      @mak: Like this team! Of course everyone has great teams in shallower leagues, but good %s, good scoring, TO are OK given Harden. Your FG% might be rough and you could use a few more blocks. Don’t see any urgent moves yet, but I would either buy low on a big man early on or look to add the first good one that emerges off the wire

  13. Nick says:
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    Hey JB,

    I’ve got a dilemma heading into my dynasty season. Only have 1 IR spot with Jrue currently in it. We’re required to have a rookie and mine is simmons, but also have Murray. I can leave Simmons on the wire till December as I have his rights till then. However, I’ve also got Richardson and Gary Harris. Harris looks to be out for a month to 6 weeks now and I think Richardson will be ready to go by the start of the season. My team is good enough to make playoffs and when healthy win it all.

    SO, should I drop Harris or wait it out. Ish and Frazier are on the wire and can fill in for me for awhile. Harris will likely get picked up and stashed in someone else’s IR if I drop hin

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Nick: I don’t see this “massive” upside for either Harris or J-Rich. Unless you’re absolutely loaded at PG, I would drop both for Ish and Frazier

    • Slim

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      @Nick: In a dynasty I think you will regret both of those drops. I’d ride it out. They shouldn’t be out long and Ish and Frazier don’t represent year long value let alone dynasty value.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Nick: @Slim: With guys like Ish and Frazier still available, I was assuming a shallower dynasty. Depends on league size, and do you have keeper penalties?

  14. Count de Monetball says:
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    Ha ha, I clicked on the link to this thinking this was about catchers in baseball . Must be time to go to bed

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Count de Monetball: Hahaha, sorry man! Yeah when the sports crossover, I definitely mistype “basketball” and “baseball” all the time after getting used to baseball during the summer 🙂

  15. Blint says:
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    Heylooooooooo JB/SLIM – from India!!!

    Can’t wait for the new season!! Missed Razzball nation this past few months. How are you doingJB ? hopefully married life is treating you well 🙂

    So I play in a keeper league/Dynasty league. I can keep how many ever players I want from last years team .We have 18 roster spots plus two injured reserve spots(where I kept Exum and Embiid) So I can keep 16 more players from the rest . Here is my team

    PG : Rubio, Avery Bradley, Elfrid Payton,Exum, Toney Douglas

    SG/SF – James Harden , Draymond Green,Hayward,Gallinari,Josh Richardson,Norman Powell

    PF/C – LaMarcus Aldridge, Myles Turner,Gobert,Nelens Noel,Kenneth Faried,Clint Capela,Joel Embiid, Ed Davis,Thomas Robinson,

    I think my team lacks a major PG! Who should I trade for yout think given my team?

    Keeping 1)Harden 2)Draymond 3)Aldridge 4)Myles Turner 5)Gobert 6)Rubio 7)Hayward 8)Noel
    9) Gallinari 10)Avery Bradley 11) Capela 12)Payton 13) Embiid 14)Josh Richardosn 15) Dante Exum

    Now I have three spots left for – Keneth Faried , Ed Davis, Toney Douglas, Normal Powell, Thomas Robinson .

    Either I keep Faried and let the other guys hit the Free Agent and have two picks at the draft to pick up any Rookie if available! So the players we keep will be kept from reverse order! So if I keep 17 players out of 18 roster sports I will only have my first round pick left!

    I have no idea what to expect or how good Powell , Robsinson etc are! What to do SLIM JB!!! Please haaaaaaaalppppp!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Blint: Haha I’m here to haaaaalppp across the other side of the world!

      I am doing well, thanks for asking! Married life is great! Wife isn’t too in love with all the time I spend with Sports, but she knew what she was getting into 🙂

      Gotcha, well at least your keepers look great! I think you just keep Faried and hope for RHJ or other options. I am not that interested in your final guys there. T-Rob oozes potential all the time, and never gets it together, plus is a FT drain. Powell reallllly is gonna struggle for playing time. So I would keep Faried, hope for a trade where he can play 30 MPG, and get some sexy new guys!

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        @JB Gilpin:

        What about Rookies ? Anybody like Myles Turner from last year I can stash ? I am guessing people will let go of two or three players like I will so a few old players should be be taken by other owners and I could sneak in some rookie other than Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram! Give me a diamond in the rough JB!!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Blint: Well I def really like Zubac. Haha lots of pressure here though! I think Chriss is interesting upside. Wayyyyy deeper is Ellenson who I think could be fantasy relevant if he got minutes in the next 2-3 years. Ohhhhhh, here’s my fav. Timothe Luwawu. Sixers have blah at SG/SF talent, and he is uber athletic and can already hit 3s. Slightly bigger version of Lavine??

  16. Lasandro says:
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    In a 14 cat roto, would it be safer to pick KAT even over those GSW boys, considering the likelyhood of playing more games than them throughout the season? What’s stopping GSW from limiting their two studs to 70 games throughout the season really? I’d likely never pass up on Curry, but KAT over KD perhaps?

    Same could be asked re: picking Giannis over Kawhi and/or CP3 (although I dont see the Clips intentionally resting CP at any point). Is Poison Geese a 2nd rounder in roto, a la Millsap, Draymond, DMC? I know he went apesht yesterday from beyond the arc, but those other stats were so nice. He’s also the youngest of that crop and would push that 80 games played mark.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Lasandro: Yeah your format is wonky 🙂 Remind me the cats again? Yeah KAT at 5 and KD at 4 for me, not like they’re far apart, and I think I remember your format helping bigs. I prob would take KAT.

      Still like MIllsap > Goose. Giannis I have ranked over Kawhi, I think in roto though I might Kawhi TBH, although both prob over CP3 since all the rewards for rebounding.

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      @JB gilpin: yep 14 cats, including overall brds, O brds, and D brds. A/to, ftms etc, along with the traditional 9 cats.

      So 72 games Kawhi is still better than 80 games Giannis? Great point on choosing these over CP, thanks!

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        @Lasandro: Damnnnn, A/TO for Kawhi should be great. Him vs. Giannis is soooooo close. But gimme Kawhi! And yeah, 72 games + 8 replacement games of someone off the wire > Giannis 80 I think

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        @jb gilpin: haha and oh yeah, we have a limit on FA pickups (80)… But point taken. Not like Giannis’ a/to is gonna be much worse than kawhi’s due to his volume assists, right? May even get more fts, just at a lesser %.. Ok, you MADE me do this. Here’s my take on who wins in a head to head 14cat roto, by stats:

        PTS: Kawhi
        FGM: Kawhi
        FG%: Giannis
        FTM: Giannis
        FT%: Kawhi
        3PM: Kawhi
        3P%: Kawhi
        Reb: Giannis
        OReb: Kawhi
        DReb: Giannis
        Stl: Kawhi
        Blk: Giannis
        Ast: Giannis
        A/To: Giannis

        Agree/disagree?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Lasandro: Oh damn, so no TO stat on it’s own. Yeah that’s having me lean Giannis I think. O Reb might even go Giannis. I’m a flip flopper!

  17. Sam says:
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    Hey JB!
    Thanks to you guys I’m keeping my 3 year win streak alive in my league! Was hoping you could check out the team I’m planning to draft with #1 spot for my 9man H2H league 12-cat (TO, DD, TD, 3pt%)
    Decided to go all out punt ft% this year to go for the DD and lower TO of DJ/Drummo

    1. Westbrook (still tossing up him and Harden but the TD cat seems too hard to pass on Russ)
    2. DJ
    3. Drummond
    4. Batum
    5. Dragic
    6. Conley
    7. Parsons
    8. JV
    9. Payton
    10. A Gordon
    11. Wes Matthews
    12. Capela
    13. Frazier

    Cheers mate!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Sam: Hey man! Awesome, glad we’re helping! Cool, yeah I def like FT punt in an expanded cat, DD league for sure. Agree on Westbrook > Harden in a TD league. Realllllly like this team! Mayyyybe your TO are still a bit high, but honestly other than that, not seeing many issues. Like it!

  18. Henry says:
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    Hi Guys,

    I am punting FT% in my standard league and I got a offer to trade out KD + Jokic for Curry + Myles Turner. Do you think I should go for it? Curry seems to be a better fit for punt FT% but do you think it make sense to sacrifice Jokic’s higher upside?

    Cheers!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Henry: I don’t see either direction as a good or bad thing for FT punt. Mannnn, it’s close. I like Curry #1 overall but I don’t know if the difference is worth Jokic>Turner. I’m gonna lean pass on that deal

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        @JB Gilpin:
        Thanks JB I am following ur advice!
        Especially with the recent two game and KD is damn efficient! Curry is a bit set back in preseason, I guess because he wants to give a welcome package to KD.

        As for Jokic, I saw many league is picking him up really early like in second rounds, yahoo also changed the ranking to 25, do you think it is really happening this year? Should I trade him for someone like BG to take advantage of Yahoo!’s high ranking?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Henry: Cool, hope it pans out right! Yeah agree, they need KD comfortable. They don’t want a Kevin Love situation haha.

          Yeahhhhh, 25 is a little insane. I thought I was going to get some looks for having him in my top 50! Turns out 45 is starting to feel low! I think people are going too crazy. If you could get Blake for him, that’d be a slam dunk

  19. Gremer says:
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    Good evening bosses and masters of RAZZBALLLLLLL! Hope you gentlemen are having a fine day.

    14 team H2H, picking 12th and 17th but got an offer for the 8th and 21st pick. Should i bite? It’s not really all that different to be honest.

    For my 12th, was going with Millsap-Kemba
    If I do accept the 8th, i’m thinking Giannis-Klay.

    Thoughts please? Thank you!!!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Gremer: Haha good evening good sir! Thnaks for dropping by!

      I want any opportunity to get Giannis in the 8-10 range. I am most definitely taking that deal. Although might not go Klay all the way at 21, but Giannis fills it up so nice, I like getting him and figuring out draft from there. Any time!

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks JB. How about if KP is still available? Will he be a better fit? I’m targeting Klay just to even out Ante’s weakness lol. If Kemba is available, i might pounce on him as well, although i’ll feel better having a G/F and an F/C build in my first two picks.

        Thanks so much for all your hard work. I’m still primarily new to this so I need all the help 🙂

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          @Gremer: Oh oh, forgot to mention, I think Kawhi still falls to the 8th spot in my league… Kawhi or Giannis? 🙂 and for Kawhi, who would be a nice fit to him at 21st? Should I reach for a shotblocker like Gobert or Brook? 🙂

          I definitely have diff. build strats for H2H and Roto. I like my H2H players to have an “explosiveness” to them like Lillard, Klay, and Kemba. I like consistent and solidness in players like Kawhi and Horford and Marvin Williams for my Roto league. Agree? 😀

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Gremer: Ohhhhh def like Porzingis more. Yeah I think so, then you don’t have to worry about blocks at all. Kemba I like oodles more too. I worry Klay is going to have furstrating ups and downs.

            Accckkkkk, I’ll still go Giannis > Kawhi, but it’s sooooo close. I think in H2H, I like the bigger volume stats in AST and BLK more than Kawhi’s well-roundedness. With Kawhi, I think you HAVE to go AST with your next pick. But yeah you’re right on, in Roto I think I would like Giannis/Klay a good bit 1/2, but not as much in h2h

            • Gremer says:
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              @JB Gilpin: Maraming salamat JB! (Thank you in Tagalog (Filipino) 🙂 Thumbs up for all the hard work.

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:
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                @Gremer: Hah awesome, appreciate it! We try!

  20. Saints says:
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    Hay JB i have a big Trade in front of me which could be very important for my Team.
    I’m in a 9 cat deep dynasty league (Astx2;Rebx2; Ptsx2;Blk;St;TO;3pts;FG%;FT%)
    The players are staying with me nearly forever 😉
    I can get Nikola Jokic for Joel Embiid.
    I like Jokic a lot but Embiid has so much potential. He could be one of the best fantasy Players in a few Years. I’m a contending Team right now (won the championship last year) So Jokic can help me to bring another title home. The Situation with Nurkic in Denver scares me a little bit too. I’m not sure if I should pull the trigger but I’m leaning forward to it right now…
    Another Option would be to trade Devin Booker against Jokic but i dont like this idea simply because of Position Eligibilty. To get another pure Center and loose a guard is difficult for my team (i have Kanter and Favors for the C Position as well)

    Which trade would you like and would you even Trade for Jokic ? What do you think about Embiid ?
    Thanks for your Advice: I love your Posts :)Good Job 🙂 Keep It going 🙂

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Saints: Hey man! Dude, I am 100% taking Jokic. Soooooo much injury risk I feel like with Embiid, plus he’s still a year older than Jokic! Which is hard to believe haha. I think Nurk developing like this is GREAT news. Jokic Faried is such a blah combo, but I think Joke playing the 4 and defense on 4s is sooooo much better. Man Booker looked good last night, so I def the Embiid one. Seems like a great preseason-hype sell high. Really appreciate that man, and drop by any time!

      • Saints says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Hay JB thanks for your advice my tradepartner is a little bit hesitant. He now wants to get Ellenson and Embiid for Jokic. I’m not sure now. I try to get a mid 2nd rounder (16 team league) back. What do you think about this offer?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Saints: Meh Ellenson is gonna be annoying to hold, he’s not gonna be playing much/be in D-League for a while. If you can get the pick it’s a slam dunk, I probably would still do it without the pick straight up too

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            @JB Gilpin:
            We have a D-League Roster for Rookies so its not a big deal if he’s not playong in the first year. The question is if hes ever becoming a good fantasy basketball player. But i think i’m going with the trade thanks for your advice again.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Saints: Ohhhhhhhhhhh. Cool yeah that helps Ellenson for sure, I think there’s upside there, but likely bad FG% and I dunno how much the D stats eventually come along. Getting Jokic though is still worth it for me

  21. Yager says:
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    Lofty question, but I am in a league that does not count FT%. How would you rank these guys considering that? I love Clint Capela in this format, are there other guys I should be targeting? I am asking outside the obvious Andre Drummond and Deandre Jordan because I have the first pick (Russ), and in this format they will be long gone (my next pick is 34, in a 17 man league).

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Yager: Got ya on the schedules post!

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