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[10/21 – Final Update!  Complete with all of Slim’s stat projections, a few final tweaks, and hopefully a list that’s 95% accurate!  I’m going to try my best to keep our ranking’s post active throughout the whole regular season so commenters can give me some love for the calls that went right, or slam me where it went all Wiggins-ish.  Good luck this year, Razzball Hoops Nation!]

Oh.  My.  God.  It’s here!!!

Not too be all Sapper (I love Millsap!), but this post is the pinnacle of everything I’ve worked for through the years at Razzball.  Taking over hoops in 2013 and building a community with you awesome commenters has been unreal.  And is anything more important in fantasy hoops than ranks?!  As Zoolander would say when clowned for having one look, “I DON’T THINK SO!”

Enough melodrama, this is where it all comes together!  Our one-stop rankings page where we will be continually updating the top 200 until opening night, complete with Yahoo position eligibility (where we’ll be playing in 16-17 RCLs – sign up now!), my short-form blurb (you can read further on everyone in the rankings posts linked below), Slim’s ranks projection (if a rank looks wildly wrong compared to Slim’s projection – it’s a player we wildly disagree on!), and the comments section below that I dare say was the best in fantasy basketball last year.  In 15-16’s ranks, we got to 1,572 comments complete with rankings disagreements, breaking news, draft strategy, draft reviews, and general Razzball hijinks that can’t be topped.  Let’s go for 2,000 this year!

Here’s our 2016-17 Razzball Fantasy Basketball Rankings:

Rank 1-10 | Rank 11-20 | Rank 21-50 | Rank 51-75

Rank 76-100Rank 101-150 | Rank 151-200

Razzball Basketball 2016-2017 Fantasy Basketball Rankings

(rankings geared for 10/12-team 9-category H2H Leagues)

GREEN = risingRED = falling

(stat projections by FG%/FT%/3PTM/PTS/REB/AST/STL/BLK/TO :MPG)

RANK PLAYER, TEAM, AGE POS NOTE
1 Stephen Curry, GS (28) PG, SG My frequently used soundbyte now – Durant is a phenomenal player, Curry is a transcendent player.  Curry will also be taking the ball up the court more.  3s with the FG% and the rest of the package keep him #1.
  Slim’s Projection:   .495/.900/4.2/27.5/4.7/6.9/2.0/0.2/3.1 :32
2 James Harden, HOU (26) PG, SG, SF D’Antoni?!  Sign me up!  TO will be out of control again, but so will the Pts/Ast as well as the flops for FT.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.865/3.0/29.5/6.0/7.3/1.7/0.6/4.4 :38
3 Russell Westbrook, OKC (27) PG Yup, with the contract solidified since I did the original top-10 article, I’m now flipping Westy to my 3rd besty.  Crazy USG, will need to punt-TO and either punt or fix FG%.
  Slim’s Projection:   .435/.820/1.4/28.5/8.1/9.7/2.1/0.2/4.4 :34
4 Kevin Durant, GS (27) SF, PF These top 4 are so razor close that I have some major chafing going on.  I still expect Durant to be amazing, it’s just we have 4 amazing players.
  Slim’s Projection:   .520/.880/2.2/25.5/6.8/4.8/1.0/1.0/2.9 :32
5 Karl-Anthony Towns, MIN (20) C Along with all the normal sexiness (Pts/FG%/Reb/Blk), he upped his Ast from 1.4 to 3.0 pre and post ASB in his rookie season.  He’s unreal.
  Slim’s Projection:   .540/.800/0.6/21.0/11.0/3.0/0.8/1.9/2.4 :36
6 Chris Paul, LAC (31) PG After a rough start due in part to some early injuries, finished the bulk of the year going 20.3/4.4/10.5/2.1/0.2 with 2.6 TO and 46.4% shooting with 1.8 treys from his 17th game on.  Another year fully entrenched as a first rounder.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.880/1.8/19.0/4.1/10.2/1.9/0.1/2.4 :32
7 Giannis Antetokounmpo, MIL (21) PG, SG, SF Over the last 26 games, Greek Freak went 18.8/8.4/7.5/1.5/1.9. Insanity! Shot 51.5% too. With Middleton gone, it adds more offensive onus on The Alphabet. I think it spells #7 value!
  Slim’s Projection:   .495/.735/0.7/19.0/8.4/7.2/1.4/1.6/2.8 :36
8 Hassan Whiteside, MIA (27) C Final 37 games, 3.9-5.4 FT good for 73.2%.  On top of leading the league in blocks, if he hits his FT, he’s easily gonna be a first rounder.  And no, this rank isn’t under the duress of an elbow to the noggin.
  Slim’s Projection:   .600/.730/0/19.5/14.0/0.5/0.7/3.5/1.9 :32
9 Anthony Davis, NO (23) PF, C If we knew Brow would play 75+ games I migggghhhht lean him over KAT, but we all know the risk.  GET THE PELS NEW MEDICAL PEOPLE!  Luckily it sounds like this kankle he got in preseason won’t cost him any time in the regular season, but man is it foreboding…
  Slim’s Projection:   .505/.780/0.7/23.5/10.1/1.8/1.3/2.4/1.9 :34
10 Kawhi Leonard, SA (25) SG, SF The metrics love him, most people agree maybe a smidge too much, and he still gets a little docked for not playing 80 games.  But the multicat, huge steals, and great FG% improvement with more 3s can’t be overlooked.
  Slim’s Projection:   .500/.835/1.8/21.5/7.2/2.7/1.8/1.0/1.6 :34
11 LeBron James, CLE (31) SF, PF I feel like his dominant playoff run is clouding some judgment, as the Cavs are gonna coast harder than Usian Bolt in Olympic qualifiers.  No need to push Bron, and the Cavs end with 3 games in the H2H semis and 4 in the finals, with back-to-backs in both.  Might only get 4-5 games the pivotal final two weeks.
  Slim’s Projection:   .525/.730/1.2/25.0/7.3/6.7/1.3/0.6/3.1 :36
12 Kyle Lowry, TOR (30) PG Career highs in 3s, FT volume and minutes that have me believing he can be a rock.  “Welcome to The Rock!” [in Sean Connery’s voice]
  Slim’s Projection:   .425/.810/2.5/20.5/4.5/6.6/1.6/0.2/2.8 :36
13 John Wall, WAS (25) PG Slim hates me for having Lowry ahead, these two are pretty close to a coin flip.  Not liking the bad FG% for a low-3s guy or the FT trending down last 3 seasons.
  Slim’s Projection:   .425/.790/1.4/20.0/5.1/10.5/1.8/0.7/3.8 :36
14 Paul Millsap, ATL (31) SF, PF More perimeter touches with Dwight clogging the lane, such an underrated commodity.
  Slim’s Projection:   .470/.760/1.0/18.0/9.2/3.4/1.6/1.2/2.3 :32
15 Paul George, IND (26) SG, SF Hard not to root for the guy bouncing back from the bad injury; played 81 games last year, set a huge career best in FT volume, and this is going to be a ridiculously paced team.  Living up to the IND name!
  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.850/2.3/22.5/6.8/3.8/1.8/0.3/3.0 :34
16 DeMarcus Cousins, SAC (26) PF, C Missed 40 games the past two seasons, FT% came crumbling down around a huge volume, and without Rondo, look for Boogie to turn it over like the good ol’ days as well.  Not close to a first-rounder for me anymore.
  Slim’s Projection:   .460/.730/1.0/27.0/12.1/3.6/1.5/1.4/4.0 :34
17 Draymond Green, GS (26) SF, PF Takes a slight nudge down to the nards with the GSW Dream Team assemblage, but he should still be the same #Occupy we know and love, but could no longer bear children with…
  Slim’s Projection:   .485/.710/1.1/12.5/9.8/6.7/1.6/1.4/2.8 :34
18 Kemba Walker, CHA (26) PG Breakout season from the Huskie, boosted the FG%, boosted the FT volume, and brings a very interesting skill set for only 2ish TO per.
  Slim’s Projection:   .425/.840/2.0/20.0/4.1/5.2/1.6/0.5/2.2 :36
19 Damian Lillard, POR (26) PG I really hate the lack of steals and the high TO when compared to Kemba.  I can make up the other stats on ThrAGNOF!
  Slim’s Projection:   .425/.880/3.2/25.5/4.0/6.6/1.0/0.3/3.1 :36
20 DeAndre Jordan, LAC (28) C 4/5/3 playoff sched from a guy that almost never misses games.  FT-punt is giving me a lot more interest after seeing DJ came out at 3rd overall when you take out FT% last year.  Two cats in the bank for the quarters and semis of the H2H playoffs.
  Slim’s Projection:   .700/.430/0/12.0/13.5/1.0/0.7/2.2/1.3 :34
21 Andre Drummond, DET (23) C Still emerging, love his post game, but I like DJ’s playoff sched and blocks a smidge more.
  Slim’s Projection:   .530/.380/0/17.5/14.7/0.8/1.4/1.7/2.0 :34
22 Brook Lopez, BKN (28) C Injury risk seems to be by the wayside, but Ol’ Clownfoot is on an ugly Nets team on a fairly-friendly contract.  Got shut down last year.  A trade at the deadline would hurt.
  Slim’s Projection:   .505/.790/0/20.5/7.6/1.7/0.6/1.7/2.3 :32
23 Kristaps Porzingis, NY (21) PF, C The Posion Goose!  Only rookie to score more than 1,000 points, grab 500-plus rebounds, make 75-plus 3-pointers and block more than a 100 shots.  USG may hurt next to Melo/Rose, but he’ll still get his, and get dem swats on top of everything.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.825/1.6/17.0/8.5/1.5/0.8/2.3/2.0 :32
24 Al Horford, BOS (30) PF, C The way B-Rad runs rotations, I’m a little worried about the minutes being 29-30.  Slim has more faith.  His game is suited for a long career, but I worry about some early Boston meshing as well.
  Slim’s Projection:   .505/.785/0.9/15.5/7.8/3.2/0.8/1.4/1.4 :32
25 Blake Griffin, LAC (27) PF, C Disaster 15-16, but BG is playing for a contract (he’ll likely get max either way, but ya know) and I think bounces back fine, as long as you’re not on the Clip staff and clown him at dinner.
  Slim’s Projection:   .505/.730/0.2/21.5/8.2/4.7/0.8/0.5/2.3 :34
26 Eric Bledsoe, PHO (26) PG, SG Was looking great with my high rank of him last year, but those effin injuries…  Risky, but did play 81 games sandwiched between the injury-plagued seasons.  Had the meniscus surgery that takes longer to recover from so you can play at peak level, so I still see that big upside there.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.800/1.4/19.5/4.2/6.0/1.6/0.5/3.4 :32
27 Jimmy Butler, CHI (26) SG, SF 67 games or fewer in the past 3 seasons, and now has USG hogs Wade and Rondo to ruin possessions rather than Rose.  2 is worse than 1…  Still should be his team and a solid value though.
  Slim’s Projection:   .460/.830/1.0/18.5/5.3/5.8/1.6/0.5/2.0 :36
28 Victor Oladipo, OKC (24) PG, SG I’m warming more and more on the player, but I really don’t love this situation.  I’m confused as to why changing your running mate from Elfrid Payton to Westbrook is a GOOD thing, and not like OKC is too shabby compared to ORL everywhere else.  I don’t trust the 3s and I think he could be overdrafted.
  Slim’s Projection:   .450/.825/1.5/19.0/5.1/4.2/1.8/0.8/2.6 :36
29 Kyrie Irving, CLE (24) PG, SG Looking at 15-16 seasonal numbers might be a turnoff, but he was eased in off the knee injury.  Post-ASB and that final Finals shot is a turn ON though!  What can Uncle Drew do for YOU?!
  Slim’s Projection:   .455/.870/1.8/20.5/3.1/5.1/1.2/0.3/2.4 :34
30 ⇑ Rudy Gobert, UTA (24) C Monsieur Elbow was Le Poo last year, that’s for sure!  FIBA ball apparently ruined his conditioning, and he tore his knee at one point.  But he bounced back quick from injury – good to see for a big – and still has elite big man skills.  Nice fallback FT-punt option.

UP – The FT is looking pretty good this preseason!  Everyone needs the blocks…  Worth a higher pick.

  Slim’s Projection:   .580/.600/0/10.5/11.3/1.6/0.8/2.5/1.8 :32
31 LaMarcus Aldridge, SA (31) PF, C Slim dislikes Aldridge with a Patrick Patterson-esque fury, but LA was 9th in per-game last year the final 31 games, and scores with a big volume of great FG% with virtually no TO.  Being on the old Spurs is annoying though…
  Slim’s Projection:   .495/.845/0/18.5/8.6/1.6/0.5/0.9/1.4 :30
32 Isaiah Thomas, BOS (27) PG 37th overall finish last year, but mostly due to low REB and bad FG%.  Makes him a beautiful fit in a punt-FT, if you loaded up on the big boys early.
  Slim’s Projection:   .425/.870/2.0/21.5/2.8/6.0/1.0/0.1/2.7 :32
33 Gorgui Dieng, MIN (26) PF, C Choo Choo!  Who’s with me on the hype train?!  Through games 14-82 – 10.8/7.5/2.0/1.1/1.2 with 53.9% from the field and 82.6 FT%.  That was only in 28:30 MPG and not starting half those games.  I think Slim is a little light on the projection with upside to play huge minutes for Tibby Tibs.
  Slim’s Projection:   .515/.810/0.2/12.0/7.8/2.2/1.1/1.6/1.8 :30
34 Carmelo Anthony, NY (32) SF, PF With the facilitating ineptitude of Rose and coming off a career high in dimes, I could see Melo be a sneaky 5.0 AST source.  We know scoring will be there with bleh peripheral stats, but me likey if his name value sours his ADP too much.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.820/1.6/20.5/7.4/3.9/0.9/0.4/2.3 :34
35 Kevin Love, CLE (27) PF, C Small steps up in per-minute stats, Love has gone from injury-plagued first rounder to low-upside mid-rounder.  Might make your leaguemates fall asleep with this pick.
  Slim’s Projection:   .435/.820/2.2/16.5/10.0/2.5/0.7/0.5/1.8 :32
36 Serge Ibaka, ORL (26) PF, C Blocks dropping, turning into a jump shooter that is hurting FG%… He was clearly out of my top-50 pre-trade, but has some great upside for an expanded offensive role in ORL.
  Slim’s Projection:   .475/.765/1.3/15.0/7.5/0.9/0.5/2.1/1.6 :32
37 Derrick Favors, UTA (25) PF, C Favors would be 10 higher if not for back-to-back seasons with back-to-back spasms.  Also the blocks didn’t come along like we thought…  Love his game, hate the risk.
  Slim’s Projection:   .510/.715/0/16.5/ 8.3/1.6/1.0/1.7/1.7 :32
38 C.J. McCollum, POR (24) PG, SG Yikes my anti-McCollum 15-16 calls didn’t go well!  I don’t know if he has any more upside, unless he can get to 1.5+ steals.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.830/2.4/20.0/3.1/4.2/1.1/0.2/2.4 :34
39 Pau Gasol, SA (36) PF, C Old and Spurs, go together like hangovers and carnival rides.  You just have to build in a lot of regression, especially in minutes, but he can still be top-50 serviceable.
  Slim’s Projection:   .480/.795/0.2/16.0/9.5/3.4/0.4/1.6/1.9 :30
40 Jae Crowder, BOS (26) SF, PF The Boston Clam Crowder!  Sexy 1.7 swipes from a forward and I don’t see a way he could finish much worse than the 32nd per-game 15-16 he had.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.790/1.7/14.0/5.0/1.9/1.6/0.4/1.1 :32
41 Klay Thompson, GS (26) SG, SF Takes the big hit amongst the Golden State Western All-Stars, and the D stats took a major step back last year as well.  Back to being one of the NBA’s best ThrAGNOFs.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.870/2.9/18.5/3.4/2.0/0.9/0.5/1.6 :32
42 Chandler Parsons, MEM (27) SF, PF 19.0/5.9/3.1/1.1/0.3 with an unreal 2.6 treys on 51.9% FG shooting his last 26 games.  Yes, two straight seasons ending with knee issues, but I believe in Memphis believing in him.  By the transitive property, I therefore believe in Parsons, even with the knee thing scaring me a little.
  Slim’s Projection:   .480/.710/1.9/15.5/4.9/3.1/0.9/0.3/1.8 :32
43 Ricky Rubio, MIN (25) PG Despite having constant critics (both Rubio himself AND to me, for my love for Rubio!) he played 76 games last year and had a top-50 season.  Kris Dunn does look awesome, but until the Wolves finally trade Rubio, I think he’s at the end of the top-50 again.
  Slim’s Projection:   .380/.830/0.9/11.0/4.5/8.9/2.1/0.1/2.7 :32
44 Nikola Jokic, DEN (21) PF, C The love is starting to get strong for this one!  In per-game/per-36 min stats, he was 13th in the NBA last year.  And not like he played mop up minutes, he started a ton, just Mike Malone wouldn’t play him.  Gives you a legit 9-cat impact, even though no one stat shines.
  Slim’s Projection:   .490/.810/0.4/11.5/8.2/2.8/1.1/0.8/1.7 :27
45 Goran Dragic, MIA (30) PG, SG 17.3/4.6/6.7 post-ASB last year, with a lot more upside with Wade gone, despite the metrics not loving his game due to lack of STL/3s. His FG% makes him a great punt-FT fit though, and seeing how drafts are playing out and SOMEONE is punting FT by the 4th round, I am moving him snugly in my top-50.
  Slim’s Projection:   .485/.765/1.2/18.5/3.7/6.7/1.1/0.2/2.6 :34
46 Nicolas Batum, CHA (27) SF, PF A tad more upside for Frenchy with Lin gone, but he had a career-high in TO last year and always struggles in FG%, so those hurt him a tad.
  Slim’s Projection:   .435/.845/1.9/15.0/5.9/5.7/1.0/0.5/3.0 :34
47 Gordon Hayward, UTA (26) SG, SF FG%, AST, STL and BLK all dropped last year, and now they have a competent PG.  Love the player, but couldn’t rank him any higher.  The broken finger breaking out of the skin (ugh) will cost him a few weeks, and cost him a few spots in my ranks, but then I expect him to be fine.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.820/1.8/20.0/5.0/4.2/1.3/0.4/2.6 :36
48 ⇑ Marc Gasol, MEM (31) C The bone in his foot he broke is a really tricky one for big men, and he couldn’t even run as of June 5th.  There is confirmation there will be DNPs and minutes limits to open the season, but if he can stay healthy through winter, I expect his game to come back into form when you’re in the playoffs.

UP – While it may hurt the FG%, he’s hitting 3s and the Grizz are showing some uptempo looks in preseason…  The foot is scary, especially since he’s going to sit early-season back-to-backs, but this could get really interesting by the second half.

  Slim’s Projection:   .475/.790/0/15.5/7.1/3.7/0.9/1.3/2.1 :32
49 Nikola Vucevic, ORL (25) PF, C I thought I was going to be a smidge above consensus on Ibaka, but turns out I don’t want any part of the Magic frontcourt after all, especially Vuch.  Any lapses on D, and Bis is gonna get the Business!
  Slim’s Projection:   .515/.750/0/17.5/9.2/2.3/0.7/1.0/1.8 :30
50 Mike Conley, MEM (28) PG Despite my hate on him last year (100% correct too!), I like him at about the same spot in 16-17 with an insane 6.1:1.5 AST:TO last season.  Low TO from a PG fits a lot of builds, plus a good wing running mate in Parsons finally.
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.840/1.5/15.5/2.8/5.6/1.2/0.2/1.6 :32
51 Dennis Schroder, ATL (23) PG Ich Liebe the German! Were’s Paul?! I need to be sure I spelled that right! Yes, the TO was bad in per-minute terms last year, but he had an offensively inept 2nd unit around him and he was trying to prove he’s a starter. I don’t think they get too out of control. Gonna score and dime like a Blitzkreig!
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.795/1.4/14.5/3.9/6.1/1.2/0.1/3.3 :30
52 Jeff Teague, IND (28) PG I know it looks lazy having these two back-to-back, but they’re sooooo close!  Teague a little safer and will easily win STL, I just worry about how much rock he gets in that system.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.850/1.5/16.5/2.8/6.2/1.4/0.3/2.7 :32
53 D’Angelo Russell, LAL (20) PG While I keep calling him D Barksdale for a character in one of the most sophisticated shows ever made, D Russell is anything but.  1.6/3.3/1.2 in 3s/AST/STL in sub-30 minutes as a 19-yr-old is still mad intriguing, especially with no Kobe-USG-suck.  Hopefully Russell can keep from doing something stupid.  Looks great in preseason, and there’s such a big opportunity here.  Belongs firmly entrenched in the PG run.
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.750/1.9/16.0/3.6/5.2/1.3/0.1/2.9 :32
54 Elfrid Payton, ORL (22) PG Get SKIIIIIILES!!! the F%*# outta here!  Skiles even publicly said he didn’t think Elfrid was the PG of the future, and with a new system and a defensive-minded coach, I could see Elfrid getting off the Shelfrid and taking off.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.600/0.5/12.0/4.2/7.0/1.6/0.4/2.5 :32
55 ⇓ Tobias Harris, ORL (24) SF, PF So underrated. After getting traded to Motown, the numbers all boosted up – better FG%, 3+ PPG, more FT volume, more 3s, and a much better AST:TO that went from 2.0:1.6 in ORL to 2.6:1.1 in D-town.  Full off-season with his new crew, and this could be an awesome, metrics-friendly season.

DOWN – Not a knock on Harris individually – he looks great this preseason – but I think he belongs after the main PG run.

  Slim’s Projection:   .470/.810/1.2/17.0/6.2/2.5/0.8/0.5/1.3 :34
56 DeMar DeRozan, TOR (27) SG, SF My original blurb was too good – “Why I didn’t like DeRozan last year – Pts went down, AST:TO took a huge step back, treys down, FG% down, and a bad groin injury was the main reason he missed 22 games.  Why I like DeRozan this year – Pts went back up (23.5 – career high), AST:TO took a huge step forward (4.0:2.2, ironically the exact same as in 13-14), treys up, FG% up, and he only missed 4 games.”
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.845/0.5/23.0/4.4/4.0/1.0/0.2/2.2 :36
57 Brandon Knight, PHO (24) PG, SG Apparently this rank still prices me in, but I love the high-output 3s with the AST contribution – easy to miss the 5.1 AST he brings amongst some other warts, mainly FG%…
  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.835/2.0/18.5/3.8/4.6/1.1/0.2/3.0 :34
58 Evan Fournier, ORL (23) SG, SF The Virgin! Also, don’t google what his last name means. Posted a career year going 15.4/2.8/2.7/1.2/0.0 with 2 treys a game and only 1.7 TO, and had some assist-binges as well, diming 3.7/per in April. No Dipo will mean more usage, and they desperately need his scoring!
  Slim’s Projection:   .460/.815/2.1/19.0/2.9/3.3/1.3/0.1/1.9 :34
59 Darren Collison, SAC (29) PG I used to love his fantasy-friendly game as a PG with low TO, but now I hate his character.  I like to cheer for my fantasy teams, and that’s tough to do with Colly.  “Only” an 8-game suspension keeps him a pretty solid mid-round pick though…
  Slim’s Projection:   .470/.860/1.2/15.0/2.8/6.5/1.4/0.1/2.5 :36
60 Jonas Valanciunas, TOR (24) C The Luminescent Lithuanian’s per-game fantasy rank always looks purdy next to his MPG, but given an injury history, I don’t automatically think no Biyombo = 30+ MPG.  I like him, don’t get me wrong!  But I don’t have that Canadian love…
  Slim’s Projection:   .565/.765/0/14.0/9.3/0.8/0.4/1.4/1.5 :28
61 Marcin Gortat, WAS (32) C The Ten Foot Pole is about to be an Eleven Year Pro, but that ain’t stopping me!  He’s finished in the top-50 in the past few seasons – yes it’s metrics-whoreish – but even with a few less MPG, I think this is good value.
  Slim’s Projection:   .565/.700/0/12.0/9.2/1.2/0.5/1.2/1.4 :28
62 Jusuf Nurkic, DEN (22) C In 17 MPG, Jamba Jus got to 1.4 BLK, 0.8 STL and has some really underrated playmaking ability as a post-passer.  I think his %s take big hikes up, and even if he’s only at 24-25 MPG, I think can be a win at this rank.
  Slim’s Projection:   .460/.650/0/14.0/8.8/1.6/1.0/1.9/2.2 :28
63 Bradley Beal, WAS (23) SG I actually might have some Beal shares this year, with some confidence in that the Wizards have faith his leg injury issues are behind him – hell, it’s THEIR medical staff that know him better than anyone!  So if they had doubts, I suspect they wouldn’t have dropped all dat ca$h.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.780/1.9/17.5/3.5/3.0/1.0/0.2/2.0 :32
64 Rudy Gay, SAC (30) SF, PF Gay only scores. Despite the real-life basketball metrics hating him though, he was 46th last year despite dropping from 3.7 to 1.7 dimes with Rondo hawgin’ it. No Rondo, mo’ dimes!  But this is looking like a messier and messier divorce, with Gay publicly putting out there he’s opting out next year. Virtually any trade is going to hurt, plus he has to deal with internal strife for however long he plays in 16-17 with the Kings.
  Slim’s Projection:   .455/.785/1.0/17.5/6.4/2.3/1.3/0.6/2.3 :34
65 Danilo Gallinari, DEN (28) SF Uggghhhhh, Gallo!  Why can’t you stay healthy!  A big sleeper of mine last year was working out pretty well until a kankle.  He’s major trade bait, but I still love his game.
  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.860/1.8/17.5/5.0/2.3/0.7/0.3/1.4 :32
66 Trevor Ariza, HOU (31) SG, SF He fits certain builds REALLY well, and like Gortat is a metrics-friendly finisher every year, but I don’t think the D’Antoni effect really impacts Ariza as much.  The ups and downs in FG% can crush you, unless you’re outright punting FG%.
  Slim’s Projection:   .410/.790/2.4/13.0/5.2/2.5/1.9/0.3/1.5 :36
67 Jeremy Lin, BKN (28) PG, SG Had a great 15-16 in FT volume and a career-low TO rate, and joins a team in desperate need of playmaking. And cool hair.  Check out our H2H Playoff Schedule post – love their schedule down the stretch, and he’s going to have such freedom to be a USG whore.
  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.810/1.3/14.0/3.3/6.3/1.2/0.6/2.4 :32
68 Rajon Rondo, CHI (30) PG Speaking of needing to punt stuff!  Yes, AST and STL were great last year, but expect major hits in dimes next to Wade and Butler.  Might be closer to DAL stats than SAC stats…
  Slim’s Projection:   .450/.590/0.8/10.5/5.8/8.4/1.8/0.1/2.9 :32
69 Andrew Wiggins, MIN (21) SG, SF Obviously needs to make improvements, but at least he’s durable!  Big scoring sources aren’t too plentiful past here.
  Slim’s Projection:   .475/.785/1.0/21.5/3.7/2.4/1.2/0.7/2.1 :36
70 Myles Turner, IND (20) PF, C From game 41-82, i.e. the “legit” 2nd half of the season, he went 12.2/6.4/0.9/0.5/1.7 in 26.6 MPG, shooting 49.7% from the field, 73.9% from the stripe, and only committing 1.4 TO.  Seasonal numbers get jacked up due to low minutes out of the gate and coming off the broken thumb prior to this run.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.765/0.3/12.5/6.9/1.0/0.7/2.1/1.8 :28
71 Dwyane Wade, CHI (34) PG, SG Rondo is a TO-vortex!  We might get a little fix there, along with good scoring and some wing dimes.  But ya know, for 65 games…
  Slim’s Projection:   .460/.780/0.1/18.0/3.8/3.6/1.0/0.4/1.9 :30
72 Zach LaVine, MIN (21) PG, SG As a starter, was unreal for 17.3/2.8/3.2/1.1/0.2 in 33 games, including 2.4 treys at an absurd 47.4% clip from the field overall.  I don’t know if that % is fully replicable, but heavy treys without killing your FG% should fit some FT punt builds.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.785/1.7/16.5/2.8/3.1/1.0/0.2/1.8 :32
73 Dirk Nowitzki, DAL (38) PF, C I’m glad I’m including ages, because that explains the only reason why The Gerimator is this low. He stands the test of time, but we’ll see if he can hold up another full NBA season.
  Slim’s Projection:   .450/.890/1.6/17.5/6.0/1.8/0.6/0.5/1.1 :30
74 George Hill, UTA (30) PG, SG Provides 5ish dimes with a minuscule TO rate, with just an overall non-killing game in %s and TO. LET ME SEE THAT THONG!
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.790/1.7/12.0/3.8/3.8/1.0/0.2/1.3 :32
75 Aaron Gordon, ORL (21) SF, PF Vogel – “I’ma use A-Gord like P-George!”  Me – erection.
  Slim’s Projection:   .470/.655/0.8/13.5/8.3/2.7/1.1/0.8/1.7 :32
76 Nerlens Noel, PHI (22) PF, C Still the allure of 2/2 STL/BLK!  Sixers keep saying one of the bigs will be gone – make a deal already!  Now I’m feeling more and more worried about playing time with Embiid feeling like the true bedrock player of the franchise up front, and then Noel hurts his groin and is unlikely to be healthy to start the season.  Gulp.
  Slim’s Projection:   .510/.600/0/11.5/8.0/1.9/1.8/1.5/2.0 :28
77 Robert Covington, PHI (25) SF, PF FG% remains a big issue, but his post-ASB got to 31:10 MPG with an absurd 3.3 treys and gorgeous 15.6/7.0/1.5/1.5/0.6 slash.  Another strong fit for FG% punt.
  Slim’s Projection:   .390/.795/2.4/12.5/5.4/1.5/1.4/0.5/2.0 :28
78 Kent Bazemore, ATL (27) SG, SF Fell off a smidge last year as the minutes I think caught up to him a bit, but he offers a very sexy metrics-friendly game, and could be a huge get if he can maintain across 82 games.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.795/1.7/13.0/5.0/2.6/1.3/0.5/2.0 :30
79 Avery Bradley, BOS (25) PG, SG Career highs in STL, PTS and 3s, with a nice FG% for a high-end ThrAGNOF.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.790/1.9/15.0/3.0/2.2/1.4/0.3/1.4 :34
80 Jordan Clarkson, LAL (24) PG, SG Ugh, a tough whiff last year, but with Kobe’s USG gonzo, I could see him being George Hill-ish this year…  No change with a bench role, maybe a few less minutes, but more dimes.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.815/1.6/16.5/4.0/3.6/1.1/0.1/1.8 :32
81 Enes Kanter, OKC (24) C Anemic in AST/STL/BLK, the upside for a 20/10 season with a good FG% keeps him well ahead of the 100 range.
  Slim’s Projection:   .545/.800/0.2/16.5/9.3/0.6/0.5/0.5/1.9 :28
82 Wesley Matthews, DAL (29) SG, SF Even off the awful injury, played 78 games at 33:54 MPG in 15-16.  Mark Cuban said Matthews couldn’t even dunk half of last year, but he’s apparently having a great, healthy offseason.  A great unsexy name for sexy upside.
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.850/2.6/15.0/3.3/2.2/1.1/0.2/1.0 :34
83 Devin Booker, PHO (19) SG Mannnnn I want to rank him higher and higher with the PJ Tucker injury news, but 0.6/0.3 STL/BLK with 2.6 AST last year, meh, and a lot came without Knight and Bledsoe off the floor. I think you have an extremely sexy, admittedly young and sexy, player that could be overreached for if you went much higher than here.
  Slim’s Projection:   .435/.845/1.6/13.0/2.6/2.1/0.7/0.3/1.8 :28
84 Luol Deng, LAL (31) SF, PF 15.2/8.1/2.5/1.2/0.5 over the final 28 games, with 1.1 treys shooting 48.4% with only 1.4 TO. Yes – no Bosh – but it’s not like the Lakers have a murderers row up front. Another unsexy name that I think will fall too far.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.770/1.0/13.5/5.8/1.8/0.9/0.3/1.0 :32
85 Thaddeus Young, IND (28) SF, PF I think he’s going to be a little overdrafted, as his better numbers have come on awful PHI and BKN teams.  I’m not quite sure how he’ll fit into the Pacers uptempo system, as he’s likely the #5 option.
  Slim’s Projection:   .480/.675/0.3/13.0/8.1/1.9/1.4/0.4/1.7 :30
86 Monta Ellis, IND (30) PG, SG HE’S STILL GETTING PAID ONLY $11 MIL A YEAR!?  Readers last year get that one…  1.9 STL and 4.2 AST is what you’re drafting here, as any bounceback in scoring is tough to see with this new offense.
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.780/1.1/14.5/3.2/4.2/1.9/0.3/2.4 :34
87 Ryan Anderson, HOU (28) PF, C Ryno, the ThraAGNOF bigman dyno!  If you get 70 games of his 3PTM/C combo, you’re happy.
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.870/2.4/17.5/6.2/1.0/0.5/0.3/1.5 :30
88 DeMarre Carroll, TOR (30) SF, PF In a limited sample due to injuries, 3PTM and STL were both career highs,  At least all of his injury issues last year didn’t lead to some big surgery.  I could see a nice big bounceback.
  Slim’s Projection:   .450/.720/1.8/12.0/5.3/1.6/1.4/0.2/1.1 :32
89 JJ Redick, LAC (32) SG I don’t see the crazy high marks of 48% from the field again, 47.5% from deep, or scoring over 16 PPG with Blake back.  ThrAGNOF!
  Slim’s Projection:   .475/.890/2.6/15.0/2.0/1.5/0.5/0.1/1.0 :28
90 Rodney Hood, UTA (23) SG, SF Loves – 2 treys and 2.2-2.5 FT for 86% freebie clip.  Hates – 0.9/0.2 in Stl/Blk and 2.7:1.9 AST:TO.  I worry the dimes and steals are a little overrated and he’s more ThrAGNOF than not, but I do still like him!
  Slim’s Projection:   .425/.850/1.9/15.0/3.4/2.9/0.9/0.2/1.7 :32
91 Emmanuel Mudiay, DEN (20) PG Makes the top 200 due to PG runs.  Not that they have diarrhea, but you get it.  Mudiay did finish 15-16 strong going 16.5/3.8/4.9/0.6/0.4 hitting 1.7 treys and shooting 40.8% (high for him) over the final 22 games, so there’s a little hope for minor-breakout potential.
  Slim’s Projection:   .405/.760/1.6/15.5/3.7/5.7/1.3/0.6/3.1 :32
92 Joakim Noah, NYK (31) PF, C Goromotaro! I do like his upside for dimes continuing to play with Rose, but even if this is looking FANTASTIC through 20 games, I would sell immediately due to brittleness.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.690/0/8.5/9.4/4.8/0.8/1.1/1.8 :30
93 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET (23) SG The KCP addiction remains STRONG! Well, I should say I’ve plateaued, now that his ADP is getting to where my rank is these days…  About time!
  Slim’s Projection:   .425/.800/1.6/14.0/3.5/1.8/1.4/0.2/1.3 :34
94 ⇑ Robin Lopez, CHI (28) C Worst player in basketball!  He is what he is, a nice nab for big man depth in non-FT punt builds.

UP – Aight, aight, aight… He gets blocks and can make his FT.  Makes him a valuable get within the top-100…

  Slim’s Projection:   .535/.790/0/11.0/7.5/1.5/0.3/1.5/1.5 :28
95 Greg Monroe, MIL (26) PF, C I have to rank him somewhere, although admittedly this hate might be going too far.  I worry where he lands in an inevitable trade, as the Bucks hate him.
  Slim’s Projection:   .515/.740/0/13.0/8.3/2.2/0.9/0.8/1.5 :28
96 Justise Winslow, MIA (20) SF, PF I’m admittedly a little iffy with this rank, but the combo of 0.9 STL and only 1.2 TO as a rookie excites me, as well as an expanded role.  FT% is a little bit of an issue, but I think he can surprise, especially if no Bosh.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.730/0.8/12.5/7.9/2.7/1.2/0.8/1.7 :34
97 Markieff Morris, WAS (27) PF, C FG% went WAY up even though he took more 3s, TO way down, and same STL/BLK after getting to the Wiz.  Still only 27, with a full offseason with the new crew, there could be something here.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.760/0.8/13.5/6.0/1.8/1.0/0.6/1.8 :30
98 Jabari Parker, MIL (21) SF, PF An unreal 18.8/6.2/2.2/1.1/0.3 line over his last 29 games, which I originally felt was unrepeatable and blah without threes, but now without Duchess, there’s a legit shot he could push for 20 PPG.  With the added rebounds and still some youthful upside, I thought I was a buyer, but apparently he’s being hyped hard in other rankings-sets.  I’m not going TOO nuts for a guy who can score but had bad D stats and no 3s…
  Slim’s Projection:   .490/.770/0.3/19.5/6.3/2.2/1.1/0.3/2.1 :36
99 Jrue Holiday, NO (26) PG We wish he and his family the best, as he takes an indefinite period of time to be with the people that matter most. Hate to be callous, but in fantasy terms, I don’t think I want to invest in an uncertain amount of stat accrual.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.830/1.7/18.5/3.6/7.3/1.6/0.3/2.9 :32
100 Otto Porter, WAS (23) SF There are some rankings and pre-ranks that are out of control for Porter, who was barely ownable when Beal was on the court – he only spiked when Beal was hurt.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.760/1.2/11.0/5.1/1.6/1.4/0.4/1.0 :30
101 Derrick Rose, NYK (27) PG I had a little optimism he could be a little better than last year, but then his legal issue got more and more publicity, and he just doesn’t sound like a fun guy, regardless of the court’s ruling. I like to cheer for my fantasy teams, sue me!
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.810/1.0/18.0/3.2/4.8/0.7/0.2/3.0 :32
102 Matt Barnes, SAC (36) SF, PF One of my favorite late round staples, Barnes follows Joerger – who apparently loves him – to SAC, where he is going to play both F positions.  1/1/1 3/STL/BLK gonna be tough to find any later!
  Slim’s Projection:   .410/.780/1.5/9.5/4.7/1.8/0.8/0.6/1.2 :26
103 Marvin Williams, CHA (30) SF, PF As metrics-whorey as it comes, with only 0.8 TO last year in a spread line.  I don’t know if I buy 45+ FG% again or the 1.0 BLK though…
  Slim’s Projection:   .435/.800/1.7/10.5/5.8/1.3/0.8/0.6/0.8 :28
104 Jared Sullinger, TOR (24) PF, C The Raptors desperately need deep shooting from guys other than Lowry (and I guess Carroll), but at well under 30% from downtown in his career, I think it could get a little ugly, and I don’t think we see this huge 1+/1+ STL/BLK season either.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.725/0.7/13.5/8.2/2.6/1.0/0.7/1.4 :28
105 Dwight Howard, ATL (30) PF, C Obviously a fun FT punt asset if he lasts this long, but the TO issues, injury-proneness, and changing to another team worry me a smidge. I think the resurgence season last year was an anomaly to his career trends.
  Slim’s Projection:   .585/.520/0/15.0/11.0/1.3/0.9/1.6/2.6 :32
106 Will Barton, DEN (25) SG, SF People are being way too chill on Will the thrill!  5.8 REB, 2.5 AST, 0.9/0.5 STL/BLK, and 1.4 treys as ancillary stats to the scoring is nothing to sneeze at, and I think he gets a similar MPG role, even with everyone healthy and the new wing rooks.
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.790/1.0/12.0/4.9/2.1/0.8/0.4/1.6 :26
107 Clint Capela, HOU (22) PF, C More D’Antoniiiii! Obviously a must-draft for FT punters; for other builds, the upside in Boards-n-Blocks is capped a little due to the drain.
  Slim’s Projection:   .565/.420/0/11.0/9.6/1.0/1.0/1.7/1.3 :28
108 Harrison Barnes, DAL (24) SF, PF Doesn’t hit enough treys or bring enough D-stats, but maybe can get to 18 or 19 a night in Big D.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.755/1.4/15.0/5.2/1.8/0.8/0.2/1.5 :32
109 Evan Turner, POR (27) SG, SF Both Turner’s AST and AST:TO took massive steps forward in Boston, but nothing else really jumps off the page.  I imagine a similar role in POR.
  Slim’s Projection:   .460/.780/0/10.5/5.0/4.2/1.0/0.2/1.9 :28
110 Reggie Jackson, DET (26) PG, SG  Brutal news that R-Jax “could” miss 6-8 weeks with knee issues.  It wouldn’t be the end of the world, but this is for knee tendinitis, and not off a surgery.  So who knows if this lingers.  I am hoping to steer clear, and nab Ish late to see what happens…
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.860/1.6/19.0/3.0/6.6/0.8/0.1/3.0 :32
111 Marcus Morris, DET (27) SF, PF Not flashy, but only has missed 3 games the last 3 seasons, and offers a nice well-rounded scoring boost.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.750/1.3/13.0/4.9/2.3/0.8/0.3/1.7 :34
112 Jahlil Okafor, PHI (20) C Surprised me as a rookie with over a block/per and a non-killing FT%, but I hate their big man mix and all the issues he had mostly off the court.
  Slim’s Projection:   .510/.670/0/17.0/6.9/1.3/0.4/0.9/2.0 :28
113 Ish Smith, DET (28) PG I admittedly waffle at times with the true “purpose” of these ranks, but I am looking to draft Ish in the last 2 or 3 rounds in all drafts right now with the R-Jax news.  Was previously effective as a starter on a bad team, now he starts for a good team.  I think this start could be pretty epic, then you address when/if R-Jax is back.
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.690/0.6/10.0/2.5/4.6/0.8/0.2/1.8 :22
114 Deron Williams, DAL (32) PG Limited upside, low D stats, low FG%, but is a PG who starts in the NBA and had 5.8 AST last season.  We obviously can’t expect a full season either.
  Slim’s Projection:   .410/.860/1.5/14.0/3.0/6.0/0.9/0.2/2.2 :32
115 Mason Plumlee, POR (26) PF, C 4.8 dimes in the postseason, and shot 64.2% at the stripe which is a big step forward.  Maybe he can be a sneaky C dimes source, and has played all 82 the past 2 years.
  Slim’s Projection:   .525/.635/0/10.0/7.8/3.0/0.8/0.8/2.0 :26
116 ⇑ Matthew Dellavedova, MIL (26) PG, SG Mehhhh, yeah Middleton news does nothing for me here, maybe an extra 3 attempt happens a game from what we would’ve otherwise expected.  Still going to be Giannis running the point.

UP – Bucks dumping MCW shows complete and utter faith in Delly playing a huge role as the starting PG.  Love the dimes in preseason, and really no competition for minutes.

  Slim’s Projection:   .410/.825/1.8/10.5/2.4/5.6/0.8/0.1/1.8 :32
117 Tim Frazier, NO  (25) PG With Jrue likely out a good stretch at the beginning of the season, Frazier is penciled in as your PG starter.  Went 13.1/4.4/7.5/1.4/0.1 over the final 16 games last year!  And not even all of that came as a starter!  I’m tempering my expectations a tad because we just don’t know the Jrue game played this year.
  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.745/0.6/12.0/4.1/6.8/1.0/0.1/2.5 :28
118 Zach Randolph, MEM (35) PF, C We know about what we’ll get, and he barely turns it over, for a PTS/REB source I would buy at this point.  Not too worried about a bench role, yeah maybe a few less minutes, but should be better per-36 against 2nd units.
  Slim’s Projection:   .475/.775/0/15.5/7.9/2.2/0.6/0.2/1.6 :30
119 Joel Embiid, PHI (22) C They’re not going to play him big minutes, and still going to rest him on back-to-backs, but mannnnnn does he look good.  Might get enough blocks in the low minutes to be worth this high of a pick.
  Slim’s Projection:   .485/.750/0.2/12.5/7.6/0.5/0.3/1.4/2.0 :20
120 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, BKN (21) SG, SF Had a 7.6/7.7/1.6/1.9/0.4 9 game stretch pre-injury, and BKN needs him to be their SG of the future.
  Slim’s Projection:   .460/.720/0.2/9.5/7.6/2.1/1.8/0.7/1.3 :32
121 Julius Randle, LAL (21) PF About as low-hyped as we could get for a guy who averaged a dubdub as a rook… FG% and lack of D stats hurt.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.715/0.2/13.0/10.3/2.2/0.8/0.3/2.1 :30
122 Danny Green, SA (29) SG, SF We saw how fickle metrics-whore guys can be – didn’t hit his 3s and it destroyed his value last year.  Could bounce back a little.
  Slim’s Projection:   .410/.780/1.6/ 9.0/4.0/1.9/1.0/0.8/1.0 :28
123 Nikola Mirotic, CHI (25) SF, PF I’d be much more intrigued if they didn’t bring in Wade squeezing out SF minutes as I don’t think he’s a great fit at PF due to defensive issues.
  Slim’s Projection:   .410/.800/2.1/12.5/5.6/1.5/0.9/0.7/1.7 :28
124 Kyle Korver, ATL (35) SG, SF After shooting treys in the high-40%s for a long stretch, 39.9% last year.  A healthy offseason instead of recovering from two surgeries including one on his elbow – I think a sneaky bounceback ThrAGNOF.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.860/2.2/10.0/3.1/2.1/0.6/0.3/1.2 :28
125 Josh Richardson, MIA (23) SG, SF I wasn’t fully buying into the hype, as he shot 53.3% from deep (!!!) in the second half last year during that huge run. I saw some regression coming …andddddd, he tears his knee in offseason workouts. Ugh! This is going to cost him an epicly important training camp and preseason, but I still have him draft-worthy as an IL slot, since RCL leagues have 2 IL spots.
  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.700/1.7/12.5/3.2/2.5/1.1/0.9/1.2 :30
126 Bismack Biyombo, ORL (24) PF, C Not investing in the ORL frontcourt, but there’s obviously Boards-n-Blocks usability with your last pick or two here.  Even if he’s coming off the bench, it should be for good minutes.
  Slim’s Projection:   .545/.630/0/ 6.5/9.6/0.4/0.4/1.7/0.9 :28
127 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, CHA (23) SF In his 6 full games before the [re]injury last year, he was a pretty saucy 13.5/7.0/1.2/0.3/0.5 shooting 52.6%. Sure a small sample, but he’s still really young and had big improvements the past two seasons. Just needs to keep those shoulders in those sockets!
  Slim’s Projection:   .475/.700/0.4/11.5/7.3/1.5/0.7/0.7/1.2 :30
128 Zaza Pachulia, GS (32) C Pizza arms!  Up until Feb 19th in 15-16, he was 10/10.9/2/1/0.3 before they massively scaled back his minutes.  Should fit a nice boarding need for the Golden State NBA All Stars of the West Warriors.
  Slim’s Projection:   .460/.780/0/ 8.0/6.9/1.7/0.7/0.2/1.5 :24
129 Steven Adams, OKC (23) C Despite low-volume, vastly improved his %s and AST:TO last year.  I’m not sure the volume goes up a ton though, making him barely above the streaming class.
  Slim’s Projection:   .590/.600/0/11.0/9.6/1.0/0.8/1.5/1.3 :32
130 JaMychal Green, MEM (26) PF The Grizz lack A TON of depth up front, and he had a 16 game stretch in March of 12.6/7.4/2.3/0.9/0.8 in under 29 MPG.  On non-Gasol nights, he could easily do that, and now it looks like he’s starting with Zach Randolph reportedly coming off the bench (which annoys the nuts outta me, I wanted to be on an island here!).  Love the PT upside.
  Slim’s Projection:   .470/.770/0.4/12.0/7.0/1.8/0.9/0.7/1.4 :28
131 ⇓ Buddy Hield, NO (22) SG Steals consistently went down in college and he shot 32.7% in Summer Ball, with only a 22.9% clip on treys.  Small sample, but there’s going to be some big % waffles to his ThrAGNOF game.

DOWN – Lost his starting role to Moore.  I still think he’s going to play a good bit and can take it back…

  Slim’s Projection:   .400/.820/2.2/14.5/4.4/2.3/1.0/0.2/2.3 :34
132 Al Jefferson, IND (31) PF, C Big Al has big tread on the big tires, but could easily go 11/6 with low TO for a backend big.  But hopefully someone else in your league nabs him higher for name value 🙂
  Slim’s Projection:   .485/.660/0/12.0/6.5/1.6/0.5/0.9/0.8 :24
133 Kenneth Faried, DEN (26) PF, C You’re probably hoping for a trade to be honest…  Even in a low MPG role out of the gate if he’s still in DEN, I think there’s enough for early-season ownership.
  Slim’s Projection:   .545/.645/0/12.0/8.6/1.1/0.5/0.8/1.3 :24
134 Alex Len, PHO (23) PF, C Only gets ranked here due to upside – he was a trainwreck when a starter last year, and projected to still come behind grandpa Tyson.  More a stash-and-hope.
  Slim’s Projection:   .450/.735/0/10.0/7.9/1.4/0.6/1.2/1.5 :26
135 Tony Parker, SA (34) PG Interesting note – looks like Parker had his best AST:TO ratio of his career last year: 5.3:1.8.  I know he’s old and not going to play a huge MPG or games played, but I found that intriguing as a final AST boost.
  Slim’s Projection:   .490/.770/0.5/12.0/2.3/5.4/0.7/0.1/1.8 :28
136 Al-Farouq Aminu, POR (26) SF, PF I don’t buy that a guy had a FG% of 41.6 – right where it was last year – while going from 1.7 to 4.3 treys attempted.  36.1% from deep seems like an epic fluke to me, and his ups and downs make him too annoying to own for me to invest.
  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.730/1.3/10.0/5.8/1.5/0.9/0.7/1.3 :26
137 Timofey Mozgov, LAL (30) C If he gets to 28 MPG, he could get 1.5 blocks and a few boards, but health has been an issue and I have no faith in the Lakers not to screw the pooch somehow.
  Slim’s Projection:   .540/.720/0/9.5/7.9/0.5/0.4/1.2/1.6 :28
138 Kris Dunn, MIN (22) PG Insane in Summer Ball, going 24/7/3/2/1 shooting 54.3% from the field and getting to the stripe for 15 freebies in only 2 games (due to a concussion). It’s tough to project HUGE playing time, but the counting stats could be sexy in a major combo guard role. %s and TO are an issue though, cough MCW…
  Slim’s Projection:   .435/.700/0.5/11.5/2.3/4.2/1.3/0.3/2.3 :26
139 Taj Gibson, CHI (31) PF, C With Noah and Pau outta there, there’s a shot for 28-29 MPG with a 9/9 1.3 BLK sort of line, with a great FG%.  Low end, but usable.
  Slim’s Projection:   .515/.700/0/11.5/7.1/1.3/0.6/1.3/1.2 :28
140 ⇑ Terrence Jones, NO (24) SF, PF What’s a lot sexier than Brow/Asik? Brow/Tjones! But then Brow would get pounded by centers, and it would be the most brittle frontline in history… There is a rapport between the two from their Kentucky days, but it’s a pure spec final pick that might not have enough MPG to be usable out of the gate.

UP – He’s certainly worth a last round or two flier.  I still question the minutes, and oblivious everyone questions the durability (ESPECIALLY WITH THE PELS MEDICAL STAFF!), but it could work out in a 25 MPG role…

  Slim’s Projection:   .490/.660/0.7/12.0/6.6/1.0/0.6/1.4/1.0 :26
141 J.R. Smith, CLE (31) SG, SF 12.4 Pts and 2.6 treys we saw last year I think regress with a full season of Kyrie.  But the Cavs do play a ton of off nights, so that could help his ThrAGNOF ownability a tier above the streamers.
  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.680/2.6/12.5/2.8/1.7/1.0/0.2/0.8 :30
142 Tyler Johnson, MIA (24) PG, SG I think the plan was always to mainly play him behind Dragic, so I’m not tinkiering his rank with the J-Rich injury.  Lovvvvvve TyJo’s game, but I dunno if he’ll play enough to reap the full rewards.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.795/0.9/11.0/3.6/2.8/1.0/0.5/1.6 :30
143 Gary Harris, DEN (22) SG Expected to miss 4-6 weeks with a groin strain, likely having him miss the first few weeks of the season.  I just HATE this for younger guys.  More promising since this last update that the missed time will be minimal, but still…  Meh…
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.820/1.7/14.0/3.3/2.1/1.5/0.3/1.4 :32
144 Tyson Chandler, PHO (33) C Very usable 10.1/9.4/0.9/0.6/0.8 run over his last 24 games, shooting 67.8%.  Injuries and age knock him down a round or two, but I’d be fine with him as my last pick.
  Slim’s Projection:   .590/.645/0/8.0/9.1/1.0/0.6/1.0/1.5 :26
145 Jared Dudley, PHO (31) SG, SF Probably a forgotten name come draft day, but did go 10.1/3.9/2.7/1.2/0.2 over 39 games while Wiz had injuries, with 1.7 treys and shooting almost 50%.  Has a chance to replicate that as the Suns starting SF or PF.
  Slim’s Projection:   .470/.740/1.2/8.0/3.5/2.0/0.9/0.2/1.0 :26
146 Eric Gordon, HOU (27) SG Has great upside to be a combo guard backup behind Beard and P-Bev in D’Antoni’s system when all healthy, but we could see an extended amount of time without P-Bev.  Even with playing time though, he’s soooooo ThrAGNOF.
  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.860/2.4/14.5/2.1/3.1/0.8/0.2/1.8 :30
147 Dario Saric, PHI (22) PF More TO than AST in Euro play, and even with the opening of minutes with Simmons hurt, I’m still not sold how “must-own” he’ll be even in 12ers due to the TO question mark and defensive-stats aptitude.  But I’ll 100% take a stab at him with my last couple picks if he’s there.
  Slim’s Projection:   .410/.820/1.0/11.0/4.9/1.7/0.6/0.5/2.3 :26
148 Andrew Bogut, DAL (31) C We know the Bogut schtick by now – steals and blocks, bad FT, legs made of glass.
  Slim’s Projection:   .580/.560/0/6.0/7.8/2.4/0.5/1.6/1.3 :22
149 Lou Williams, LAL (29) PG, SG His FT volume and 3PTM skillset is unique in the streaming class.  It looks like Walton is going to start Sweet Lou.  I’d have him even higher if I thought they would keep him in that role with big minutes all year, but I think we could see some inconsistencies in his run.  But love me that FT/3s combo so much!
  Slim’s Projection:   .410/.835/1.7/15.5/2.4/2.6/0.9/0.2/1.7 :28
150 ⇑ T.J. McConnell, PHI (24) PG Not quite sure of Bayless’s fate, but McConnell will move way up if he’s a long-term starter.  Sergio might sneak his way in as well, but I like McConnell better of the two…

UP – I think surgery and a long absence is coming for Bayless.  Enter your new starter!  Still could see Sergio play a good bit, but if I needed dimes at the end, I’ll get a nice TJ…

  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.720/0.6/8.0/3.3/5.6/1.4/0.1/2.1 :26
151 Omri Casspi, SAC (28) SF, PF A key FT punt target – Casspi hits 3s and shoots a good % while having a tough time at the stripe.  A Gay trade locked in stone will boost him a good bit for me.
  Slim’s Projection:   .475/.680/1.5/10.5/5.8/1.5/0.7/0.2/1.3 :26
152 John Henson, MIL (25) PF, C Well, an OBVIOUS FT target, and a Monroe trade locked in stone boosts HIM up a bit!
  Slim’s Projection:   .560/.600/0/7.5/4.4/0.8/0.4/2.0/1.2 :18
153 Mirza Teletovic, MIL (31) SF, PF Was going to be a ThrAGNOF off the bench for the Bucks with a murky outlook for minutes; alas, Middleton is out most of the year, and the Bucks DESPERATELY need perimeter shooting. They’ll find a way to play Teletovic a good bit, but I’m not going too crazy… ThrAGNOF!
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.770/2.2/11.5/4.6/1.4/0.5/0.4/1.4 :26
154 Jerami Grant, PHI (22) SF, PF Yes, the deck is heavily stacked against him, but 0.7/1.6 STL/BLK in only 26:50 last year! With Simmons out, there’s a huge gap in minutes – yes I don’t expect him to play a ton of out the gate still – but more upside than there used to be.  He continues to be great in preseason and will pick up SF minutes.  Becoming one of my favorite deep league sleepers.
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.680/0.9/11.0/4.8/1.9/0.8/1.7/1.6 :28
155 ⇓ Amir Johnson, BOS (29) PF, C Sneaky punt-FT target with a great FG% and bad FTs.  I was surprised to actually like Amir this year, but with no Sully, there isn’t heavy-hitting PF to really rival Amir’s role.  Love dem D stats.

DOWN – Meh, they seem to want to play Jerebko, want to push Jaylen to play some PF, this isn’t looking like the un-sexy sleeper appeal I saw when initially putting the ranks together…

  Slim’s Projection:   .580/.605/0.2/ 8.5/6.7/1.9/0.7/1.1/1.4 :26
156 Courtney Lee, NYK (30) SG, SF Pretty lame last roster-filler, but he contributes STL/3s with virtually no TO.
  Slim’s Projection:   .450/.840/1.0/9.0/2.6/1.8/1.1/0.3/0.9 :30
157 Michael Beasley, MIL (27) SF, PF In only 18 MPG, Beasley went 12.8/4.9 with a usable-enough 0.6/0.5 STL/BLK in his stint in Houston, I already liked him as a sleeper and then he gets traded to a BETTER situation!  They obviously need scoring, but unfortunately he’s not a huge perimeter shooter, so I’m not sure exactly what his role will be.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.770/0.2/12.0/4.6/0.9/0.6/0.4/1.5 :22
158 Bojan Bogdanovic, BKN (27) SG, SF ThrAGNOF!  Nets need wing scoring/3PTM in the worst way, but the rest of his stats are so empty to rank him higher, even with the Pts/3s upside.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.830/1.7/12.0/3.3/1.3/0.4/0.1/1.6 :28
159 ⇓ Marcus Smart, BOS (22) PG Seems like there’s some buzz for him to take the next step, but I don’t see that happening until they let him slash instead of shooting 3s.  STL in the bank is nice, but meh.

DOWN – Just picked up a kankle and might miss a few weeks.  Hate this.

  Slim’s Projection:   .370/.760/1.2/9.5/4.3/3.4/1.6/.3/1.4 :28
160 Bobby Portis, CHI (21) PF, C Shooting for the upside here – when unleashed the D stats didn’t come too strong, but he can hit FT and treys.  Give him run, Rolo sucks!
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.740/0.6/10.0/6.0/1.1/0.6/0.7/1.2 :22
161 Arron Afflalo, SAC (30) SG, SF Could be a 15 PPG source, but is blah everywhere else.
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.845/1.3/11.5/3.3/1.8/0.4/0.1/1.2 :30
162 Stanley Johnson, DET (20) SG, SF Obviously didn’t have the rookie season the buzz was hyping – shooting 37.5% and turning it over an obscene 1.6/game in only 23 minutes – but StanVan wants to limit KCP and Marcus a little, and StanJo can play the 2, 3 or 4.  Hopefully he can improve if given more minutes in year 2.
  Slim’s Projection:   .400/.790/1.2/10.5/4.7/1.9/1.0/0.3/1.7 :26
163 Willie Cauley-Stein, SAC (23) PF, C 0.7/1.0 STL/BLK was AWESOME in 21:23 MPG last year, but 5.3 REB?  And I don’t know if we see that MPG jump with Joerger saying Matt Barnes is gonna play some 4.
  Slim’s Projection:   .560/.650/0/8.5/6.0/0.7/0.8/1.2/0.8 :24
164 E’Twaun Moore, NO (27) PG, SG Another benefactor to the Jrue-hole, and one that got paid.  I moved him up in my penultimate update, but didn’t move him again this one even with a starting job out of the gate.  When Evans and Jrue are ready, he’s going to struggle for USG and Hield could take the job back.
  Slim’s Projection:   .450/.680/1.0/9.0/2.3/1.9/0.8/0.2/1.1 :24
165 Tyreke Evans, NO (28) PG, SG We know the upside when healthy, but revealed he had a bloodclot form after surgery, and just hearing about bloodclots from another NBA player has me freak out.  His target date is in December now.  I won’t be drafting him in 12ers anymore…
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.770/1.1/16.0/5.1/5.8/1.2/0.3/2.8 :30
166 ⇓ Patrick Beverley, HOU (28) PG, SG While I initially liked the upside for P-Bev in  D’Antoni system, injuries are rearing their ugly head already with a lingering knee issue… Would just be preseason noise for most guys, but P-Bev already hurt has me scurred.

DOWN – Keeps plummeting for fear he might have knee surgery…

  Slim’s Projection:   .425/.765/2.1/10.5/3.9/3.6/1.4/0.4/1.4 :30
167 Tristan Thompson, CLE (25) PF, C You know what you get here – and I would’ve had him even lower if not for 82 games played the past 4 seasons – durable rock for deepers though!
  Slim’s Projection:   .565/.630/0/11.5/9.6/0.9/0.5/0.7/0.9 :32
168 Trey Lyles, UTA (21) PF Scored more than Nick Young at a rave club in Summer Ball!  Hit treys (that’s his name!) and boarded, but anemic in AST/STL/BLK.  Should be good instant O off the Jazz bench, but not seeing an ownable guy out of the gates in 12ers.
  Slim’s Projection:   .450/.720/0.9/8.0/4.5/1.0/0.5/0.3/1.0 :20
169 Tony Allen, MEM (34) SG, SF Steals!  And that’s it!  Streambait.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.650/0.2/8.5/4.4/1.4/1.8/0.4/1.3 :26
170 Brandon Ingram, LAL (19) SF I question his perimeter game, and role off the bench behind Deng and Randle as a SF/PF.  I think it’ll be a rocky road to start the season – let’s get ice cream!
  Slim’s Projection:   .400/.700/0.8/10.0/3.9/1.5/0.5/0.7/1.4 :26
171 Dion Waiters, MIA (24) SG, SF Might get snagged as a sleeper in a lot of leagues, but I’ve always been bleh on his game.  Not enough 3s for a bad FG%, I’m not sure the MPG he’ll get, and not like Richardson is out too long.  Steals get a little overlooked for him though.
  Slim’s Projection:   .400/.720/1.0/10.0/2.4/2.1/0.9/0.2/1.4 :26
172 Cody Zeller, CHA (23) PF, C A lingering bone bruise has the beginning of the season in question.  I hate the Hornets C rotation these days…
  Slim’s Projection:   .515/.765/0/9.5/6.3/1.3/0.9/0.9/1.0 :26
173 Mario Hezonja, ORL (21) SG Was anything but super his rookie year, and while the Magic lack a lot of wing depth, he just doesn’t do enough beyond 3s and a couple of boards to get me excited as a 6th man.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.880/1.2/9.0/2.8/1.6/0.6/0.2/1.5 :22
174 Brandon Jennings, NYK (27) PG Played like vintage BJ off the bench with a bad FG% and great AST:TO last year. Rose is an obvious injury risk and possible suspension risk, so a nice stash gamble in deepers.
  Slim’s Projection:   .390/.780/1.5/9.5/2.0/3.9/0.7/0.1/1.2 :22
175 Solomon Hill, NO (25) SG, SF No Reke gives Hill a chance to play some starting minutes out of the gate, and over the final 5 games of 15-16, Hill went 15/7.2/2.2/2.0/0.2 on the Pacers.  Very small sample, but there’s talent there.
  Slim’s Projection:   .435/.830/1.0/10.5/3.8/2.3/0.9/0.2/1.5 :30
176 Dwight Powell, DAL (25) PF Some talent here as well! 14.5/9.9/1.6/1.3/0.9 in per-36 minutes with only 1.5 TO, and should have a big expanded role with a new contract, and Carlisle saying as much.
  Slim’s Projection:   .485/.755/0.2/11.0/6.8/1.2/0.9/0.7/1.1 :26
177 Trevor Booker, BKN (28) PF PF in BKN is a mess.  I think Scola could start, but the biggest upside I think is for the Bookworm.  Didn’t have consistent fantasy production when given minutes last year, but can board, hit a trey, and provide a few D stats.
  Slim’s Projection:   .490/.650/0.3/9.5/6.3/1.2/0.8/0.7/1.3 :28
178 Joe Johnson, UTA (35) SG, SF I could see Exum, Burks, JJ, Lyles as a really entertaining 2nd unit for the Jazz… Will get 2-3 weeks of starts s well with Hayward down.
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.815/1.3/9.0/2.3/3.1/0.5/0.1/1.2 :22
179 Ed Davis, POR (27) PF, C I’d like Big Ed more if I wasn’t a Plumlee buyer, but 0.7/0.9 STL/BLK and 7.4 boards is maybe replicable, although I could see a few less minutes if they expand Mason.
  Slim’s Projection:   .610/.550/0/7.0/7.1/1.0/0.6/1.1/0.8 :22
180 Gerald Henderson, PHI (28) SG, SF Blah scoring.  As empty as his hair follicles.
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.780/0.9/11.5/3.6/2.0/0.6/0.3/1.2 :26
181 Brandan Wright, MEM (28) PF, C Gets a flier rank due to possible starts coming if Gasol misses any time or second legs of b2bs.  Has injury issues of his own and can’t play a ton of minutes in a game, so even in non-Gasol games, upside is a little capped.
  Slim’s Projection:   .620/.675/0/7.0/4.3/0.5/0.4/1.1/0.8 :18
182 Norman Powell, TOR (23) SG Might have a little too much buzz after his awesome finish last year, but I just don’t see enough run…
  Slim’s Projection:   .430/.820/0.8/7.5/2.5/1.3/0.8/0.2/0.8 :18
183 CJ Miles, IND (29) SG, SF Averaged a whopping 2.2 treys last year!  But with PG13 now locked in at SF minutes instead of stretch-4 minutes, it’ll be tough to see Miles get the same MPG.
  Slim’s Projection:   .405/.780/2.0/10.5/2.4/0.8/0.6/0.3/1.0 :22
184 T.J. Warren, PHO (23) SF Initially not in my ranks, I had some question marks on his health off foot surgery.  But it sounds like he’s healthy and there’s an opening for SF minutes with Tucker out.  Not huge on his game and I think Booker gets some SF run though…
  Slim’s Projection:   .495/.720/0.7/13.0/3.5/1.1/0.9/0.3/1.0 :28
185 Roy Hibbert, CHA (29) C Ugh, I hate Hibbert.  But if Zeller misses time, Hibbert might win out this starting job and play 25 MPG.  Will make the Hornets awful though!
  Slim’s Projection:   .440/.805/0.0/9.0/4.9/1.2/0.3/1.4/1.2 :24
186 Jeremy Lamb, CHA (24) SG, SF Lin is back in NY and MKG has balky shoulders – there’s a shot for a little added run!  Yes, he’s inconsistent and the coaching staff calls him out on it, but they paid him!
  Slim’s Projection:   .435/.790/0.9/9.0/3.6/1.4/0.7/0.4/0.8 :20
187 Tony Snell, MIL (24) SG, SF I’ve always had a soft spot in my heart for Snell…  Has shown some fun flashes!  Great opportunity to start in Milwaukee, admittedly ThrAGNOFfy.
  Slim’s Projection:   .400/.810/1.3/8.0/3.5/1.2/0.6/0.2/1.0 :26
188 Jaylen Brown, BOS (19) SF After only 1.4 combined STL+BLK in college, 2.3 STL and 0.8 BLK in 6 games in Summer play. I’m not seeing a ton of run here though, but there’s some talk they could play him at stretch-4. Could be enough minutes for him to be deep league usable if so.
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.665/0.6/10.0/3.2/1.7/1.0/0.3/1.7 :22
189 Meyers Leonard, POR (24) PF, C Just does nothing in AST/STL/BLK and is a bench player.  Meh.
  Slim’s Projection:   .465/.775/1.6/9.5/5.5/1.4/0.2/0.4/1.3 :24
190 ⇑ Marquese Chriss, PHO (19) PF I’m just not sold on the role, but the preseason showing is enough to at least have him in the ranks.  Getting steals for a big, taking a lot of shots, and after 6 TO in the preseason opener, has calmed those down.

UP – Still in my deep league range, but he does indeed look a lot better than Bender right now.  Could be a surprise.

  Slim’s Projection:   .445/.690/0.5/9.5/6.0/0.8/0.6/0.8/1.8 :24
191 Langston Galloway, NO (24) PG, SG Gets an added boost with Jrue’s games played in question, and should be a fixture as a combo guard off the bench.  Doesn’t do much stats-wise, but has impressively low TO rates with a few dimes.
  Slim’s Projection:   .395/.770/1.0/6.9/3.5/2.7/0.9/0.3/0.9 :24
192 Shaun Livingston, GS (31) PG, SG Warriors have pretty light depth at guard, and Livingston can chip in some low-volume stats with low-TO.  Nice deep league depth.
  Slim’s Projection:   .525/.810/0.1/6.5/2.2/3.0/0.7/0.3/1.0 :20
193 Allen Crabbe, POR (24) PG, SG Got really effing rich this offseason!  Turner is probably starting and McCollum is going to get his huge run…  When are the Blazers gonna get Crabby?!
  Slim’s Projection:   .455/.840/1.5/10.2/2.5/1.3/0.9/0.2/0.8 :24
194 Jarrett Jack, ATL (32) PG, SG A little surprising he landed somewhere where playing time is so assured, but he should play a nice mentorship role to Schroder.  Although he’ll need a German translator like my boy Paul.

Wow, I’m shocked the Hawks waived him.  Made perfect sense as a vet backup to unproven-as-a-starter-Schroder.

  Slim’s Projection:   .415/.870/0.5/8.0/2.8/2.6/0.5/0.1/1.0 :18
195 Wesley Johnson, LAC (29) SG, SF 0.7/1.1 STL/BLK last year, but was really up and down.  Will get a little boost if The Truth retires.
  Slim’s Projection:   .405/.730/1.2/7.0/3.3/0.5/1.0/0.6/0.7 :20
196 James Ennis, MEM (26) SG, SF I’m not totally buying in yet, but new coach David “Plop Plop, Fizz” Fizzdale has a major hard-on for him.  And if Parsons is limited out of the gate, which it sounds like he might be, it will give Ennis playing time in a weak stable of wings.  Monitoring for now, might raise him as we move along.
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.800/1.1/9.0/3.3/1.3/0.8/0.3/1.2 :24
197 Patrick Patterson, TOR (27) PF, C Meh, we know what he is, blah stats but gets em across the board with low TO.
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.810/1.1/6.0/4.0/1.0/0.5/0.3/0.7 :22
198 Kelly Oubre, WAS (20) SF Just because I love him!  Still a little raw from some preseason action I watched the other day, but massive talent is there.  Scott Brooks saying the SF position is a battle might be a little silly, but should tell you he’s closer to Porter than you’d think.
  Slim’s Projection:   .420/.740/1.0/9.5/4.1/0.6/0.9/0.3/1.2 :22
199 ⇓ Dragan Bender, PHO (18) PF Really struggled in Summer Ball, but I like him for the added SF opportunity with Tucker hurt.  It’s so weird he’s 7+ feet and going to play SF…

DOWN – They’ll play TJ Warren and Bender just looks sooooo raw.  Only stays in for upside in a month or two if something clicks.

  Slim’s Projection:   .390/.750/1.1/7.5/5.1/1.2/0.6/0.8/2.1 :22
200 ⇑ Domantas Sabonis, OKC (20) PF UP – Looking like he’s the starter on opening night, even though I don’t see a ton of upside.
  Slim’s Projection:   .470/.765/0.9/8.0/3.9/1.8/0.4/0.4/1.4 :26

Dropped Out: Jerryd Bayless (I just see bad things coming for his wrist…)

  1. Dragos says:
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    Outstanding work with the top 50!
    Only one tiny comment: IMO Mike Conley instead of Rubio in the top 50 ( i think Rubio will share the PG spot with Dunn and will not play more than 30 min/game..). Also D. Collison, K. Bazemore, E. Fournier might sneak in the top 50 too, we’ll see ! I’m looking forward for the next razzball rankings, all the best!

    • MAC says:
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      @Dragos: agree, i have conley, dragic, teague and collison over rubio in my PG ranks.
      same here as well, bullish on collison, baze and fournier. hopefully they dont get ranked so high ala gallo last year. hehe
      personally, i would avoid drafting parsons and marc gasol unless they really drop in the draft. jb ranked them for their upside. both should be drafted for a discount since they are coming from major injuries.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Dragos: @MAC: Thanks guys! Well, Rubio was better last year AND played more games! If you do think 30 MPG is the max for Rubio though, then I would definitely agree, but on the flip side it is a Tibby Tibs team and Rubio got through last year healthy…

        Wow, Bazemore?! Fournier is kinda close, Collison is too, I just hate Collison for the off the court stuff, it’s clouding me a tad probs.

        Parsons – yeah I ranked him super high. Gasol I don’t think I ranked for his upside, he finished/was ranked well above there for years. Even if he starts slow, I thought that it was kinda a conservative rank, I’m surprised everyone is thinking it’s too high!

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          @JB Gilpin: For Gasol I think the issue is worry about the dnp’s we are only 1 season removed from Durant’s foot year. Just in the top 50 seems good to me though because I think if he can recover fine he’ll be in for a top 50 season as he shoulders more of the post load with Z-bo on the clear decline.

          I think Bazemore should stay out of the top 50 I think Kyle Korver will rebound after last year and Al Horfords touches will probably go all go to Dwight unless anyone believes he won’t be demanding,

          For me I keep Rubio in the top 50 and would cut Jrue out and put in Goran Dragic somewhere, I think the fit with wade killed his production, (running away as fast as possible from those Bulls, poor Jimmy) and I think he can return to Suns form now with him as the main ball handler. For Jrue its the injuries and the fact that his late production last year I chalk up to someone had to try and pretend that was an nba team out there still.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Dragos: @MAC: @Foreign Affairs: Oh agree, that’s why I have him as low as I do. But Durant’s thing happened right before the season, Gasol’s during the prior year, and it’s a different bone, so a lot of variables going on.

            Yeah Bazemore had a great situation last year, should be good again, but top 50 seems rich.

            Dragic is at 51, he’s right there. Jrue I just think has more upside and we saw him healthy finishing a year for once. Well, minus breaking his eye, but at least it wasn’t his legs. Hah, well I don’t think the Pels have improved too much, and he was getting limited in role and minutes a ton early on, I think it’s just as much him getting healthy and confident than it was their crappy team haha

  2. MAC says:
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    RAZZUP!!!

    YAHOO! is open!!!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @MAC: R-C-Ls! R-C-Ls!

    • Michael says:
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      @MAC: Yahoo’s rankings are so whack right now. Blake Griffin at 142 like wtf!

      • Slim

        Slim says:
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        @Michael: It was like this last year. It’ll get fixed in a couple weeks. Mock drafts right now are kinda pointless.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @MAC: @Michael: @Slim: Yup they always have issues when the initially launch

  3. Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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    Hey JB!

    Last year was not good for me… I have come in 3rd or better in all my years as a fantasy basketball player and I missed the playoffs by one spot 🙁 Totally my fault though, as I totally messed up my draft (auction) because the trends did a total 180 and I missed the boat. Onto bigger and better things this year!

    Im from MN, so I have to temper my expectations (with EVERY team), but Im going to be watching a LOT of basketball this year.

    Keeper thoughts? Pick 2, can keep a max of 3 years. Wiggins/Butler would be last year keepers if I selected them.

    Crowder(1st year) -$4
    Turner (1st year) – $3
    Butler (3rd year) – $12
    Wiggy (3rd year – $20
    Dieng (1st year) – $11
    Schroeder (1st year) – $1
    A Gordon (1st year) – $7

    Thanks for the rankings and good luck this year!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Bryce Krispie Treats: Damn, sorry to hear that man! But you’re in a great spot for a young team and a new season is upon us!

      Whewwwwwwwww that’s a lot of options. Crowder $4 and Schroder $1 are the stickouts for me. But Butler at $12… Tough to turn that down and not compete. I’m on the fence! I might go young and upside with the former, but it’s close.

      Thanks for dropping by!

    • Slim

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      @Bryce Krispie Treats: Crowder is a big ol pass. You can find his stats without too much difficulty. If that’s Myles Turner than I’ll go him and schroeder. If that’s Evan Turner then I’ll go Schroeder and Butler.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Bryce Krispie Treats: @Slim: Wow, highly disagree. In a 3-year span, I don’t see any way we’re drafting Turner much closer to Crowder next year, so you’re hoping for a slam dunk 2+ years out? Why you hate Crowder so much Slim? You seem to hate the metrics guys I guess haha

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: It’s less about the player and more about which stats will be easier to find later. Wing stats (Crowder) are always easier to find later in the draft so 9 times out of 10 I will favor the PG or the big. And Crowder is now 26 which for me is on the high end for defensive stats. If I were to be asked over/under last years steals I’m definitely going under. And just based on age that’s usually right.

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Myles Turner out performs Crowder. We had Turner ranked higher last year and he’s still only 20. His best days are definitely not behind him.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Bryce Krispie Treats: @Slim: @Slim: Well, we didn’t know Crowder would lock himself into the rotation like that. Agree wing stats are harder to find, but Crowder JUST turned 26 and doesn’t have a lot of wear and tear. Sounds like with this disagreement he should just go Schroder and Butler haha

  4. DORIAN says:
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    Great ranks! With the amount of work you guys put in on this it’s hard to quibble with them, but I just have two things after my first pass. Quibble away…!

    No way we can take Draymond at 17, I mean, this ranking is obviously leftover love from the past few years. I’m not drafting a 4th option in my top two.

    Dragic not getting top 50 is insane, (but appreciated since the quieter on him the better) he is going to go mad-bomber style this year without Dwade siphoning insane usage on this team. Call me crazy, but I’m honestly expecting top 30 from him EASY. Great %s, points, assists, decent steals, low to. He’s the total package.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @DORIAN: Thanks man! With any set of ranks, everyone is gonna have a few quibbles!

      Well, sure he’s the 4th option, but you’re not drafting him for points. I think that’s why he stays top 20 vs Klay. I sank him 6 spots! I definitely don’t think he’s going to dramatically fall off that much.

      I’m just not as bullish I guess… I might need to do an article on it, but I’d like to see Dragic’s numbers when Wade didn’t play. Great %s? He’s a bad FT shooter. Steals I feel aren’t decent either. Low 3s. I think TO go up. I don’t think he’s the complete deal like that

  5. Tim says:
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    Really love your site.

    Our keeper league is 12 teams, 9 cat, roto.

    So our keeper league lets you keep a guy and forfeit the pick in the round he was picked at minus 1. So if you got Rubio in the 6th round you can keep him and sacrifice your fifth round pick. Can only keep for 3 years and can only keep 4.

    I have three solid keepers

    Paul George (sacrifice my 5th round pick)
    Draymond Green (Sacrifice my 6th round pick)
    Ricky Rubio (Sacrifice my 7th round pick).

    The question becomes whop to keep with my last keeper. here are the options:

    Avery Bradley (sac a 11th round pick)
    Danny Green (sac an 11th round pick)
    Joakim Noah (Sac. a 9th)

    My gut says Bradly – but then I am loaded with SG/SFs – I know I can correct in the early rounds as I have picks in the 1-4 and 8-10 if I take Bradly. Would have to target big men and a point guard there though.

    Thoughts?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Tim: Thanks man! Gotcha, and yeah those top 3 are golden.

      Yeah it’s gotta be Bradley, he’ll be ranked the highest of those three, somewhere in the 8ish round for me or so. Green is just such a nightmare. I kinda like Noah as a value, and he’d be my pick in the 11th round of the 3 due to your roster comp, but in the 9th it’s too rich… Any time!

  6. Jeremy says:
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    Here I thought this was for 51-200 ranks….

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      @Jeremy: Hah sorry! Lots of ranks work left to go and more to come! I like to write them all out long form as well, but like to get this post up then update it for the extended dialogue as early as I can.

  7. jay says:
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    Awesome!

    Gosh, Yahoo is such a slacker…they removed the mock draft links after it appeared to not be working late last night.

    Anyway, so our league is transitioning to a keeper league this year. No max hold on the keeps. 12 team, 9 cat

    I have the 1st pick but also 2 picks on the 3rd (25th and 30th) but no 5th rd pick. 1st pick on the 6th rd, last pick on the 7th.

    With no max hold, I’m leaning (ever so slightly) on KAT as #1 although the choices of who to pair him up with for next 3 picks really have me waffling btwn him and Steph. If there were was say a max # of 3 yrs to keep a player, would be a no brainer and pick Steph.

    I’m thinking like Slim here where I’d rather dominate 4-5 cats vs be balanced across 7 cats.

    Was thinking
    A)
    KAT -1st
    Bledsoe/Irving-24th (any preference?)
    LA – 25th
    Middleton -30th
    Dieng-48th (as long as Rotoworld doesn’t pimp him, I think I should get him here)

    Then look for Collison/Fournier in the middle rounds.

    B)
    KAT
    Kristaps/LA (another undecided)
    Middleton
    Dieng
    Conley

    C) If Curry
    Curry
    Kristaps
    LA
    Middleton
    Dieng

    C) would be tad light on rebs which I can try to look for in middle/late middle rounds through bigs and forwards that reb (tobias harris, etc)

    B) looks blah(but sometimes blah is good)

    A) looks like the best combo although i think FG wouldn’t be as above average as I’d like it to be

    Really like the Dieng pick coz I like big men that aren’t FT liabilities plus I think good insurance in the event that some major injury happens to KAT (them Kentucky bigs and their injuries).

    I can also just get another wing in the 4th (Parsons/Klay) and gamble with trying to get Collison as my 1st PG on the 6th (for A&B).

    Thoughts? Or better yet, how would you go about it?

    Sorry for the many iterations but 1st time doing a keeper league and balancing the whole “who could be really good for the next 2-5 years” with setting up a team that will compete this year is driving me nuts.

    Enjoy the weekend!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @jay: Hmmm weird… Yeah Yahoo launched earlier this year than I can remember, maybe some things they gotta fix.

      Yup, that’s the Slim way! I like my balance. Not loving B for lack of dimes. I think I like C the most, I know no cap on how long you can keep guys makes KAT REALLY hard to not keep, but tough to turn down how Curry team is looking. Maybe instead of Middleton there is a PG that falls through the cracks that far?

      Hah yeah that’s the epic debate – long-term vs. win now. I think with Curry in your pocket, I would lean more his way and win now

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      @jay: Can you advised me with this current line up of mine on our league on our office…I am too much on ranking and I didn’t focus on 3 to 4 stats… by the way we are on a H2H and winner takes all format every week….
      PG Rubio
      PG Collison
      PG mini lebron
      SG avery bradley
      SG greek freak
      SF Parsons
      SF Aaron Gordon
      SF Crowder
      PF Dieng
      PF Millsap
      C Towns
      C B. Lopez
      C N. Jokic
      The question is can I win? lol
      My friend tell me that I got a team of average players not focusing stats… I am so worried I might end up losing every week… last year I just win 4 over many weeks of clashing.. lol

      • JB Gilpin

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        @JPaul: Gotcha, soooo, 9 category league that determines the win or loss every week? I actually really like this team! Your %s are fantastic, good D stats, mayyyyybe your scoring and 3s are a tad light, but you can stream those

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          @JB Gilpin:
          sorry for the late reply… yup this is a 9 cat 10 players…

          • JB Gilpin

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            @JPaul: No worries! Yeah I like your team a lot in that format

  8. Jason says:
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    Hey man… got two early questions for drafts
    1. If u had to tank one cat in a 9-cat for each of the top 10 on your list, what would they be?
    2. What are ur ideal pairings for the first two round players (in a 10 team, 9-cat, H2H)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jason: 1. For my 10, probably 1. TO 2. TO 3. TO 4. Hmmmm, nothing? 5. Hopefully nothing again 6. Maybe 3s to stream? 7. BLK? 8. FT% or TO 9. Nada 10. FT%. Sorry to answer none on some, but their 9-cat tools are why they’re ranked top 10 haha. 2. So like, pairings with LeBron or Millsap? Giannis LeBron is mad interesting. I like Millsap and Paul a ton

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        @JB Gilpin: thanks man exactly what I was looking for! For the second question I meant two players in the first two rounds (hypothetically) youd like to pair together like Millsap and Paul sounds good but I don’t like LeBron too much lol. So pairings like Whiteside and wall? Or something like that.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Jason: Awesome! Oh OK, yeah I don’t like LeBron much either compared to ADP, but if he lasts to me at the turn, I’d love him an Giannis.

          Ummmm, yeah Wall Whiteside is nice, I liek Whiteside Lowry too, but I think Wall might fit there better.

          Brow+Lowry would be a fun team!

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          @Jason: or actually like question 1, if I were to pair each of the top 10 on the list with a second round player who would it be?

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            @Jason: Hah not to dip out of the question, but this seems like it’s good fodder for it’s own article! I need to do more research but real fast answers: 1 Curry DJ 2 Harden Brook Lopez maybe? 3 Westbrook Cousins? Punt TO 4 Durant Wall if Wall lasts 5 KAT Lowry 6 Brow Lillard 7 Paul Millsap, haha, CP3/Millasp 8 Whiteside, then maybe one of those PG, I guess I have to say George 9 Kawhi and PG again maybe 10 LeBron Giannis

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              @JB Gilpin: haha thanks man! That article coming out anytime soon? 😉 also, u sure Westbrook isn’t number 1? With Durant moving to GS and everything, are u still confident in curry and harden having higher value? Seems kinda iffy to me can u clarify pleaseee

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                @Jason: Haha probably not for a little bit, all my focus is on finishing up the ranks! Definitely some time in Sept haha.

                Curry I think you HAVE to take first. %s are unreal, not killing in TO, even if his minutes go down one or 2. I make my arguments above and in the Top 10 post (http://basketball.razzball.com/rankings-commence-top-10-for-2016-17-fantasy-basketball), but Westbrook metrics-wise gets hurt by FG% with the huge volume and crazy TO. Harden will hit more 3s and has a lot of upside with D’Antoni system now, and will win FT volume, even though Westy will get fouled a lot too. As I mention a lot of times though, all the top 4 are razor close, I couldn’t fault someone going Westbrook 2, I think you gotta stick with Curry 1 though

  9. Slim

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    I highly disagree with IT2/3rds as a punt FT target. Ideally I wouldn’t draft anyone under .450 FG% and one of the main reasons is because if there’s a great pickup that isn’t a great FG% guy I still want to be able to pick him up without fear of him ruining my FG%. If I punt FT% then I want to never and I mean NEVER lose FG%. Could a team with Drummond and LeBron “handle” the drain? Well no, since you now are mearly as good as a non-FT punt team and your already giving away FT%. So what was even the point of punting FT% in the 1st place? I would argue the point is to dominate the other categories, especially the cats the bad FT% guys are good at and mearly being as good as a non punt FT% team in FG% means you’re going to lose, especially in the playoffs against a good team. IT2/3rds is a really bad punt-FT point guard to target, honestly one of the worst. I’d rather have Dragic, Collison, Kyrie, Oladipo, Jrue, Teague, probably a few others I’m missing there.

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      @Slim:

      I’m glad you said that, as I was a bit puzzled as to why this combo would be good (Though JB, I would like to have your argument for it as well). I also would add Chris Paul to your list Slim. I think Paul with his across the board elite stats, his low turnovers (I play 9-cat) and his relatively low FTA (sitting at 4.4 per game for 2016 which I imagine could even decline through 2016), he is a great 1st rounder for a FT% punt. Then pair him up with one of the PG’s you suggested (possibly the one with the lowest turnovers) and you could have a neat FT punt team.

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        @G.:

        And conversely, I think Westbrook would be the most unsuited top-tier PG for a a FT punt team, followed by Lowry.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: @G.: We discussed this on another post, and I think I may have kinda jumped a line in my thinking. If I’m punting FT%, I’m not drafting a normal team +Drummond. I’m honestly not drafting a normal team with Drummond or DJ either. It would start with my first pick of LeBron or Giannis, and still play through the rest of my lineup, with IT2 the only guy to carry at FG%. Not like I would draft IT2/3, ltos of bigs, and STILL throw in like 4-5 other FG% drain guys, he’s just the only one that I would carry as long as I got high-volume FG guys in the first rounds.

          Slim, you’re cookie cutting only 3 picks, plus IT2/3 would be a 4th rounder (I’d hope), so there’s one more FG boost guy, then a whole rest of your line-up to go. Sure you’d wanna dominate, and I would rather Kyrie or Oladipo too! They’re just likely getting nabbed earlier.

          Yeah Paul would be nice, but damn it would be tough for me to start punting with Paul… I would only go FT punt I think if I get Giannis first round, since I am likely passing on LeBron at ADP.

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            @JB Gilpin: FT punt definitely starts in the 2nd round where u would get 1 of DJ or DRUM. 1st rounders that best suits FT punt are curry, durant, paul, lebron as their FG are just good-great. leonard would not suit this build despite his FG coz of his low assist compared to durant.

            agree with JB, to some extent IT2/3 is a good piece in a punt FT team, coz he gives u elite PTS 3s and solid AST STL. CATS that basically determine the quality of ur punt FT team. for me, getting 1 of DJ or DRUM then surrounding him with elite PG in the 1st 5 round is the way to go. going 4 PG with jordan/drum in the first 5 rounds(top 60) is always my target. unless there is a great value BIG that i can get inside top 60.

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              @MAC: @JB Gilpin: @Slim: But wouldn’t this set up basically have you be weak to average at best in 5 cats (FT, FG, TOs, Blks and Rebs)? Can see the potential lock in AST, 3s, STLs and maybe Pts but this is almost as much as FG punt as a FT punt.

              Personally, would like the Slim approach and really dominate FG, Rebs, TOs, Blks and 1 of either Pts or Stls (and compete in the other).

              • JB Gilpin

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                @Slim: @G.: @MAC: @jay: For me, it would HAVE to start in the first round since I just don’t like to punt as a strategy out of the gate not knowing my draft spot until right before.

                But yeah MAC, I don’t think I would FT punt that way either. I don’t want one FT punt guy then surround with non-FT punt. Needs to be a systemic draft all the way through, with 1 maybe 2 flankers, which is what I think IT2/3 is to a full punt build.

                jay – I agree, but not every single pick is gonna work, you’re gonna have a little crossover and I think IT2/3 works as one of your 1-2 outliers due to what he brings

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                  Okay, I’m starting to understand. Yeah, if you balance the volume out with a 1st rounder like Curry or Durant, then that definitely makes adding IT 2/3 to your Curry/Drum core more acceptable.

                  Efficient volume scorers are pretty hard to come by though, especially later on in the draft. I’d probably opt for Dragic or a low-volume guy like Rubio in the 4th if I wasn’t able to get one in the 1st/3rd.

                  • JB Gilpin

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                    @Ryan: Exactly, it has to be a team-wide punt for me for it to work, and the only times I punt is team-wide haha. But yeah, Dragic gets bumped up in my ranks for that format, but I still think IT2/3 is worth a higher price tag. We just argued him some on our Pod thatll be out tomo too haha

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      I saw the conversion spurred by my Dragic question last week. I didn’t weigh-in then cuz of laziness, but I agree 100% with you on this.

      If I’m punting a %, I want to lock up the other one ASAP by adding another quality volume scorer in that category. Taking someone like IT 2/3 could cause some close calls on FG% if you pair him with someone like Drum/DJ, or Cousins. It’d take a lot of work to balance out the volume if you selected one of the formers, and I’m not convinced that DMC will be very efficient this year. (Same ridiculous USG and is taking more treys..)

      Dragic with PHX numbers would be a godsend on punt-FT teams, and I am rather bullish on him in thinking he can come very close to that btw.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Ryan: Yeah it’s more like Giannis or LeBron/C/another FG guy/IT2 is the build I was thinking of. Cousins def will have some bad weeks. But I don’t quite see Dragic getting to PHX numbers, it’s possible though!

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: I’d rather wait and get guys who will hurt FG% later since the difference between IT2/3rds and the other PGs is so small. Like in the above team (which BTW would have IT being selected at about pick 48, which is where I have him ranked with the other PGs) are you going to take KCP if he falls? Will Ariza’s FG% scare you off now? Will Knight and Ellis be untouchable with IT? Carroll, Batum, Schroder all need to be passed on. Got to pass on Sully even in the last round. Can’t take Hood for some ThrAGNOoF. I feel like there are so many more options later if you don’t hurt your FG% that early in the draft.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Slim: We talk him on the pod, but I think you’re selling IT2/3 short (no pun intended). Metrics liked him more. Well true, you have to take out some options, but as mentioned somewhere in the comments, you need scoring at some point! Knight/Schroder would help, but they’re only 1-2 rounds later, and all the other late guys don’t score

  10. Russell MacDougall says:
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    Damn. I would love to join the quibble party but I really like these ranks! I’ve been coming up with my own ranks so I can play along at home doing compare and contrast when these come out. Here are the only key differences:

    Things I will change on mine:

    A) I dropped Klay down to 29, but 44 is where it’s at. Like you said even last year was a bit ThrAGNOF-y.

    B) Favors. Whoops! Just forgot. I guess that’s why I’m here on my couch and not writing for my own blog (…which I would demand to do from my couch)

    C) DMC and Gfreak are swapped on mine. I won a title with Boogz where he averaged 46%-fg 64%-ft 0-3pm 16.8-rbnd 5.8-asst 2.0-stl 3.0-blk 28.3-pts *Per game in 6 games. Like a moth to the flame I tend to hyper focus on that awesomely small 6 game sample size where he was healthy and felt like dominating. Not this year though!

    Things I can’t let go of:

    A) Two summer league hype trains. I would’ve said I should be the conductor on the Devin Booker hype train. But that was before I got onboard and met my fellow enthusiasts. Holy hell are we crazy. It’s too fun to jump off. In a league that for me boasts three of the greatest shooters ever (Dirk’s old one footer still strong and such) he is a close 4th. Also Deangelo Russell I’m feeling it.

    B) Them Gasol boys. Pau getting Spurs-ed hard. Marc just outside my top 50 just behind Pau.

    C) My fan is showing. 48 D.Schroeder. 49 B.Beal.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Russell MacDougall: Thanks man! Glad the quibbling is only minor! Haha.

      A) Yup, his drop of D stats was really annoying, no reason to expect them to come back.
      B) Hahaha, well even with a nice little office for Razz-writing, I still make mistakes 🙂
      C) I can understand still wanting Boogie, I just hate the injury risks and headcase/team risk. Such a nightmare franchise there…

      A2) It just sucks they still have Knight. A minutes crunch there. Russell I did have to move up in my mind, I have him higher than I thought I would in top-75 which I’m nearing the end of.
      B2) Yeah we’re the same there, Marc after Pau due to injuries.
      C2) I have Schroder close, I just can’t bring myself to get Beal that high. You’d think he’d make more 3s given pedigree, you’d think he could make FT better, and he has injury risks. I like his real-life game more than fantasy….

  11. Slimcompoop says:
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    What’s good JB? Great ranks!

    Thinking about my keeper team, so a little bit of a random question, but where do you project R-Jax, Hood, and Steven Adams respectively? If you had to choose one of the three to hold onto with your last keeper spot, who would it be?

    Thanks again for the ranks and the blog!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Slimcompoop: What’s up man?! Thanks so much!

      R-Jax I still have in a PG run I have in the 50s. He’s def my keep. Hood… I think he’s a smidge overrated. He and Adams are well outside my top-75, both seem 100ish to me. I haven’t come close to ranking either yet and I’m about 80-90 deep.

      Appreciate it man, thank you for stopping by!

      • Slimcompoop says:
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        @JB Gilpin: But mainly stay classy.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Slimcompoop: F*%^ YOU SAN DIEGO!

  12. Uncle Davis says:
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    What kind of numbers do you think Harrison Barnes can put up in Dallas? People are hating on him, but why can’t he post something like 15-17ppg, 6 rbs, 3 ast, 1 steal, 1.5 three on good percentages?

    • Slim

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      @Uncle Davis: My 1st thought… no. I’ll go with something like…

      .445/.750/1.4/15.0/5.2/1.8/0.8/0.2/1.5 :32 min

      Bleh, no chance that’s top 100.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Uncle Davis: @Slim: Yeah I think I’m kinda closer to Slim. Not too far apart these two projections except maybe in the AST and I just don’t think Barnes is much of a creator. He’s likely outside my top 100, but right around there

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          @JB Gilpin: yup, slims projection is right on point. barnes per 36 are
          13.6 P, 1.4 3s, 5.7 R, 2.1 A, 0.7 S, 0.2 B, 46.6 FG%, 76.1 FT%, 1.0 TO.

          he struggles to create his own shot, and his effeciency is meh despite having zero defensive attention to him in GSW. His stats are basically aaron afflalo like.

      • jay says:
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        @Slim: agree with this. i’m about as big a Tarheel fan as anyone out there not living in NC. The only thing I think that can go up is maybe the 3s to about 1.8 on 5-low 5s attempts OR FG if they actually utilize him down on the block or around block/elbow range more. Had >50% percentages on turnaround and stepback shots.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @MAC: @Uncle Davis: @Slim: @jay: Go heels! Although jay, wasn’t Barnes a little infuriating?! He looked like he could be a superstar if he asserted himself…

          • jay says:
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            @JB Gilpin: more than a little. seemed like his head was always somewhere else. sweet stroke but just couldn’t knock em down as consistently as a real shooter can. would be nice if he can get 39-41% from beyond the arc but i think 35-37% is his ceiling

            • JB Gilpin

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              @jay: Yeah exactly, just never asserted himself. Very frustrating.

  13. Drez1 says:
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    Yoooo, who do you guys like between Norman Powell and Patrick Beverley in a dynasty? I’m thinking Beverley could be in for a big year playing for D’antoni, and he doesn’t have much competition. Dunno much about Powell other than the fact that he had a nice run towards the end of last season. Is his upside worth holding onto, or should I move him for P-Bev and his guaranteed minutes?

    Thanks guys.

    • Slim

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      @Drez1: I’d just go with Beverley. Powell has some upside but he’s in a serious crunch for minutes. I don’t think Carroll plays much PF with Sully in town, Joseph gets all the backup PG minutes. DeRozan plays 36 minutes so Powell is fighting with Ross for the backup SG/SF minutes. If he can send Ross to the bench we’re still looking at sub-20 minutes. There needs to be an injury for Powell to really get his.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Drez1: @Slim: REL bias time! Give me Beverley as well. Glad I re-read my answer, I just wrote 2 sentences on Dwight Powell haha. Minutes are too big a risk for Powell out of the gate.

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: I wouldn’t go that far (REL bias). I don’t like Beverley nearly as much these days (he’s 28…) But he somehow finished top 100 last year (Y! per game ranks) and that was with Lawson around for way too long. D’Antoni won’t have a problem with him jacking up 3s. If Beverley stays healthy he absolutely should have a career year. But I do like Norman Powell’s upside and if I thought they would play equal minutes I’d take Powell. But…

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Drez1: @Slim: Hah yeah I was just joshin’. I think it’s pretty clear as well you gotta go P Bev

  14. Filipino Fantasy Fanatic says:
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    First of all, great list! Can’t wait for the rest of the top 200. I’ve been thinking about on which team would fit Giannis (my favorite player, available after pick 10 most likely) best, and I think it would be a punt FT% team. If you get a 10-ish pick on a 9-cat h2h league (I play in 14 and 16 team leagues), you really would have to punt a cat to mitigate the high pickers.

    I’m thinking:

    1st round: Giannis. Actually as one poster above said, CP3 would be also an unreal fit in a FT% punt as well.
    2nd round: DJ or Drumm – you absolutely have to get one of them.
    3rd round and beyond: this is where it gets interesting. As a punt FT% team you absolutely have to load up on guard stats (PTS, 3s, ASTS and STLS) WITHOUT bombing your TO and FG%. 3s could be gotten late in the draft so you can just draft Teletovic types later on in your draft.

    Here are the players I would target in the 3rd round and beyond:
    Gobert – if you missed out on DJ or Drumm and still want to punt ft%,
    Dragic! – beautiful, beautiful FG% for a guard. Number one PG option in this build.
    Favors
    Parsons – not a good FT% shooter as well but with injury concerns.
    Simmons – but I wouldn’t reach for him. Gives you out of position dimes.
    Thaddeus Young
    Trevor Ariza and Jae Crowder – low fg% but you absolutely need their swipes and 3s.
    Gortat – if you feel that you fg% is lacking , he is always a safe and consistent option and is ALWAYS underdrafted.
    CLINT CAPELA – gives you a mini Deandre in the later rounds.

    Filling out your PG spots would be hard in this build. That’s why you need out of position assists.

    • Slim

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      @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic: I’m with you on the Dragic front. Top FT% punt PG in the 4th and I agree 3s can be had later so the lack there isn’t important. A high steal wing or 2 is also a biggie. If you have Giannis and a normal complement of PGs I don’t think you’ll need a Parsons or Simmons type unless they are a bargain. I’ll add Steven Adams to that list of late targets. I don’t think you need to target Favors since there will be plenty of punt FT type bigs late, your Capela and Adams types. Thad is a good one, just that the lack of 3s is annoying since we’re already kind of low but I think we’re already planning on streaming those for the most part.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic: @Slim: Thanks man, about done with 75, 100 will be done end of week, and hopefully wrap 200 by next week!

        Lovvvve the Giannis DJ start, works well in 14 or 16ers. I think I agree with you both that Dragic > IT2/3 in a deeper league draft because you won’t be able to flood the rest of your roster with the FT punt guys you want as easily as 10 or 12, that’s my argument for an IT2/3 fit in the 4th round of a shallower league. Your argument (which I agree on) for Ariza and Crowder is my argument for IT2/3.

        Yeah I’m out on Thad as well this year. And hell yes Capela in the late rounds, woooo!

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          @JB Gilpin: just like what you said above, would love to see Dragic’s FG #s sans Dwade. Have a feeling it was closer to sub par. I watched a couple of those games (n=2 so obviously not stat. significant).

          Not sure I want to pay that high for Crowder though (well I guess depends on the picks prior) but I think can get a combo of Fournier, RHJ, Otto Porter, Gary Harris (yes that guy) and maybe even Nerlens Noel (if you think he gets traded to a team where playing time looks to be beneficial for him).

          Intrigued though at Ariza. Didn’t realize that he had a career high in SPG last season (just turned 31!). With Mike D at the helm, gotta think a lot more opportunity for swipes if they get to impose their fast pace on the opposing team. Annoying FG% though

          • JB Gilpin

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            @jay: Yeah I need to do a full article on this I think. Wade shockingly only missed 8 games last year though, forgot it was so few!

            Yeah Ariza is soooooo much better suited for Roto, in H2H, his streaks kill you. I also think he could be traded, since D’Antoni teams have a recent history of being bad haha. And quicker shots mean more for Harden and less kickout and quick triggers from Ariza I think, I dunno, the steals is definitely a possibility through with more possessions

            • Filipino Fantasy Fanatic says:
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              @JB Gilpin: Thanks guys for the feedback. Can’t wait to get the season started.

              After Dragic, which other PG would you consider drafting as well? Maybe George Hill or Collison? The latter seems to be risky with his legal troubles. I believe they are the PGs that have solid assists on top of good FG% and low TO . Teague would also be nice but he’ll command a 4th to 6th round pick for sure.

              Love the recommendations on Gary Harris (very SOLID SG with good %S), but I’m a bit worried that Murray will maybe take his minutes. RHJ is also a STLS specialist you can target in the later rounds as well. Among the lot, Otto Porter seems to be the safe option. Late season wonder Norman Powell also helped me to a championship last year, how do you guys feel about him this year? Derozan must move to the 3 for Powell to get enough minutes.

              What I’m worried about also on a Punt FT% team is the lack of PTS. It will be hard to address I’m thinking. If you get Giannis DJ and Dragic that would be still a below average scoring team. In this sense it might be better to target Drumm instead.

              With IT2, he might be a solid option as well for PTS but what bothers me most about him is low STL rate. Dragic’s STLS is also on the low side but at least he doesn’t bomb your FG% like Thomas does. I’m thinking to just take McCollum in the 3rd because I believe he can get to 1.5 stls this year, all the while helping you big time in PTS.

              An ideal punt FT% team could look like this, by round:
              Giannis
              DJ or Drumm
              McCollum
              Dragic
              Ariza/Crowder
              Thad Young/Gortat
              Capela/Adams
              Otto Porter
              RHJ – STLS specialist
              Norman Powell/Josh Richardson
              Teletovic/Bayless – 3s specialist

              Hell I think with this build Joakim Noah is worth the gamble because he provides ASTS from a big as well. I’m still worried about the lack of PTS though. Oh well I hope Yahoo fixes their mock soon!

              • Filipino Fantasy Fanatic says:
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                @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic:

                Conversely if you could somehow get Giannis in the first and Wall in the second, that would be a great start as well. You may miss out on Drum/DJ, but you can target Gobert or Favors in the third instead and build your team from there. This way you would already have an elite ast/stl guy in Wall right out the gate.

                • JB Gilpin

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                  @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic: @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic: I def like Hill as a falback option. I initially had him in the 80s and he keeps creeping up as I work on 76-100.

                  Yeah I’m avoiding wings in DEN. Wilson Chandler is back too! Barton… It’s messy. Porter is interesting as a late wing…

                  I like McCollum for the build, but dayum 3rd seems kinda high for a pick for him! Although that’s likely gonna be his pricetag… I’m not 100% sold he won’t be a FG% drain several weeks of the year either.

                  Mmmm, yeah Giannis/Wall/Favors/Gobert then get like Capela and Noah late… That could be a fun team!

                  Yeah agree, if Pts are looking iffy, Drum>DJ. They’re reallly close.

    • Ryan says:
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      Seriously, Gortat flies under the radar every year. Staple pick of mine who I’m usually able to nab in the 60s-70’s. He’s beat his ADP by a wide margin during the past few seasons.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Ryan: I know right?! I wrote the same thing for his rank coming out tomo. Everyone seems to pass on him

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: Gortat is getting up there in age. I expect blocks to continue to fall and I do not believe he plays next to Mahinmi at all. That would just be wayyyyyy toooo slooooooowwww… I’ll put him at 28 minutes so a line something like…

          .560 (9.5)/.700 (2.5)/0/12.0/8.5/1.2/0.5/1.1/1.2 :28 min

          If we had yawnstipating in basketball Gortat would fit the bill.

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Slim: That’s not the worst line, it’s not sexy, but you’re def selling him short with your age-ism

            • Slim

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              @JB Gilpin: He’s the Howie Kendrick of fantasy basketball. He’s a 15/15 2B that hits for decent average.

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                @Slim: Hah well Kendrick hasn’t done that til 2011, so now you’re overselling Kendrick!

  15. Quaz says:
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    Hi Guys

    as always, love these rankings. Great job! can’t wait to see the rest 🙂

    Hoping for your thoughts. Im picking at 9 in a h2h 12 team league, with the draft snaking. Looking at the Greek Freak, Leonard ,Cp3 and Whiteside

    wondering who you’d look to take in the 2nd to pair with each of those guys?

    • Slim

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      @Quaz: It’s a bit of personal preference but I’m going to treat Giannis and Leonard like big men since they have solid blocks. I’ll take Wall with both, especially Leonard since he’s a particularly low end 1st round ast guy. Maybe Lowry or Lillard with Giannis for the 3s but nah, I’ll still go Wall. CP3 can be paired with anyone but I’ll go with a big man, whoever the best shotblocker available is. Looking at JBs ranks Cousins seems to fall in line with that, and you could punt FTs and go with DeAndre or Drummond also. Whitside needs a PG (and is the ideal CP3 pairing but that seems unlikely given the ranks) and John Wall is my fav. You might be able to go with Lillard here if you think Whiteside is going to score 18-20 PPG on an extremely high FG%. You’ll be lacking steals and maybe that’s a punt but you could also probably fill that void with a midround wing or 2. JB might say Lowry but nah, I don’t do old guys! That didn’t come out quite right, or did it?

      I know JB has the PGs ranked as Lowry-Wall-Lillard but my order is Wall-Lillard-Lowry, and I’m not even considering Kemba. I think he’s a round behind all 3.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Quaz: @Slim: Thanks man, appreciate ya stopping by! I’d love Greek and LeBron, but someone is prob taking LeBron before then. Giannis Cousins would be fun.

        Hah, Slim you should soooooo get into old guys! I like Lowry next to Freak since you don’t need as many dimes, but I like Wall next to Whiteside or Leonard.

        • Quaz says:
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          @JB Gilpin:

          after Slims post i’m putting serious consideration into a punt FT team , with Giannis or CP3 and say, DJ

          If i go that rout in the first 2, who are some guys I should look at in the upcoming rounds?

          a deliberate punt team is not something I’ve ever done and makes me nervous lol

      • Quaz says:
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        @Slim:

        Hhaha “i don’t do old guys” indeed

        Great post mate, cheers for the help as always

        at 9 I’m really leaning towards the high risk , high reward Giannis. But if Leonard or CP3 is there, I dont think I’ll be able to pass them up

        I’m not quite as bullish in Whiteside. Something niggling about him in the back of my mind……

        • Slim

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          @Quaz: My biggest concern with Whiteside is the mental stuff. He likes to elbow people, he’s confrontational at times, and I worry the big payday might go to his head. If he was on the Kings (the team that drafted him originally) I wouldn’t want anything to do with it. But I trust the Heat, Riley and Spo will have his back and guys like Haslem and Bosh are tremendous teammates and mentors.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Quaz: @Slim: Hah yeah I’m still a little newer to punting. I usually draft good balanced teams that lose in the playoffs, it’s getting annoying.

            Agree Whiteside has a big mental risk, but yeah I don’t think the HEat would’ve brought him back if they didn’t think he has matured well.

  16. redislife says:
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    Hey great rankings and interesting comments as always!

    I was wondering how these rankings are affected if we are talking about a roto league.How are the 2 first rounds different?For example i think that leonard gets a boost and whiteside a small hit.

    Lastly,i got the 9th and 16th pick in a 12-team snake roto draft.What pairings do you think are the best at these positions?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @redislife: Thanks man, thanks for stopping by! Oh Roto is quite different for sure. Kawhi goes up a smidge. Cousins… Ughhhhh I dunno if he’s even in my first two rounds – FT and TO just kill him! No DeAndre Jordan. If 9-cat roto, Harden falls to like 5 or 6 due to the TO and FG%. I dunno about Whiteside falling, his FT turnaround I buy into. I might keep him about where he is. 9th and 16… Giannis I think is still solid for Roto if still there at 9. 16, mannnnn if Millsap fell there I would go nuts! Draymond or Lowry would be good fits too I think

    • Lasandro says:
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      @JB GIlpin: Oh wow – so no Drummo or DJ in the 2nd round, if drafting in roto?? Even with the new FT rule being imposed, thus reducing their FTAs? How interesting..

      Anyone else in that top 30 or so range that would be obviously affected in your ranks for roto purposes?

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Lasandro: Noooooooooooo, def not in Roto. The change isn’t gonna help them enough. You just can’t punt in Roto, unless it’s like 11 or 12 cats – then again isn’t your roto that deep? You can afford to punt more in those. Wall gets an extra hit for the TO. Westbrook too.

  17. Brian says:
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    PLEASE tell me you’ll do auction values too for 12 teamers, PLEASE!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Brian: Yessir! I do em every year once I knock out the standard top 200, T minus about 2ish weeks on that one!

  18. Aaron says:
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    Great rankings, and love all the info.
    I have pick 3 coming into my draft.
    Its a 14 team snake H2H league.
    I will have picks 3,26,31.
    I believe I will get Harden at 3.
    Who would be best to pair him up with at 26 and 31?
    I was looking at Lopez, Horford, LA and Griffin at pick 26 and then Irving, Oladipo or Melo at 31.
    What are your thoughts?

    • Slim

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      @Aaron: The biggest issue I have is this team is going to be nasty in the TOs and we know Harden and his FG% can be a problem at times. I think I would punt 1 of those cats. My preference… FG%. Gimme Porzingis at 26. and ‘ll take Oladipo at 31. Lopez will work if you trust it, Horford is OK, but with LA or Griffin it’s basically a punt block team. Irving should be solid and it’s really an attempt to fix Harden’s FG% and TOs which is completely acceptable. Melo… eh, Harden puts you over the top in points, I think at this point I’d focus more on the D-stats.

      So I’ll go either Harden, Goose, Oladipo and look to punt FG% or
      Harden, Lopez, Kyrie and attempt to punt nothing.

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          @JB Gilpin:
          Thanks for your help!
          I was leaning towards lopez. As I believe Porzingis will be gone as I have a big Knicks fan picking right before me in the second round.
          So hopefully I can pair him up with Irving if available.
          Would Oladipo or Bledsoe work with Harden and Lopez?

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Aaron: Ah, those pesky Knicks fans… Sure, I think either would be a solid pick, Bledsoe means you punt TO, Oladipo means you can stay competitive in all cats. I kinda like Bledsoe route then draft heavy TO guys as they fit

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        @Slim:
        Thanks for your help Slim.
        I think Lopez is the way I will go if available with irving, oladipo or Bledsoe.

  19. Kostas says:
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    Hello guys great ranks as always!! I’m picking 5-20-29 in a 9 cat-roto.I’m leaning towards KAT and was wondering who to target at 20,29…I really want to get a pg at 20 as they dry up so quickly(it2,kemba,lillard or if i hit the jackpot lowry) and was thinking middleton,blake or horford at 29..
    Thoughts,Suggestions?Thank you in advance!!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Kostas: Thanks man! KAT is a lock for 5th for me as well, unless someone reached for him and one of the top 4 fell of course.

      In Roto, I definitely like the more all-around PG. Lowry would be UNREAL! I think I actually would go Kemba if no Lowry – low TO, FG% was much better last year… Although with Kemba, I might think about another AST source 3rd. Middleton would be awesome actually, definitely a Roto standout, then think about Conley/Hill and the other low-TO PGs as you progress to hopefully win that cat. Horford would be OK, I just feel iffy in his fit in Boston and not sure if you’d have enough scoring going that way. Any time!

  20. Afro_the says:
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    Hellooo Razz-oracle! Great to have you guys back! Love the rankings this year. Based on these ranks for H2H punting ft% looks like a strategy a lot of people are going to be looking to take. But I’m in a 12 team 9 cat roto league and must not punt 🙁

    I have 1st pick in the Roto draft! I must take Chef Curry right?!? These is no other option! Maybe KD? But I wonder who I should be looking to pair him with in the 24/25 picks?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Afro_the: Whats up man?! Good to be back! Thanks for reading the ranks thus far!

      Yup – no punting allowed in Roto lol. Yeah, I mean, Durant isn’t like egregiously worse, but yeah you’re going Curry. Definitely looking at the bigs for one of the pick, and a nice balanced one. Brolo seems to fit very well. Draymond would be awesome! But likely doesn’t fall. Then mayyyybe a 2nd PG that falls. I actually think Oladipo would be a good fit with Curry/bigman. Hope that helps!

      • Afro_the says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks JB! I am a massive fan of BroLo in 9 cat roto. Really hope he falls to me. Wouldn’t mind Lamarcus either. With the PG pick would you take Rainbow over Bledsloe or Kemba or Kyrie in the roto format? I don’t think you can go wrong with any of the above…

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Afro_the: Sweet, sounds like we’re on the same page! Yeah Aldridge is a nice fit too. Hmmm. Kemba I might, issue is you minimize Curry’s FG% help. Even though I know I have them a distance apart, in Roto I am kinda feeling RainbOladipo of the group, but agree, any of those 4 paired with Curry and a big and you’re killin the draft at that point haha

          • Afro_the says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Awwww man.. Someone sniped Rainbowlidipo! But Godzilla fell to me…Tossing up between taking him infront of Belds or Kyrie. What do you think?

            Is Godzilla really going to be effected that badly from the Dwade Rondo Acquisitions? Basically its just Pau and Rose out for Wade and Rondo. I can see his assists dropping but points and and rebounds increased. I can even see his %s rising… Don’t really see Kyrie and/or Bledsloe adding that much more to the assists category.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Afro_the: Damn! Yeah, love Butler in roto! Concern is more with injuries with Butler than much else. I think I’m with you on the pick there, I have him right next to those PG in standard ranks, but E Bled with the TO gets a knock in roto.

  21. Jason says:
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    Hey man, punting ft looks like a really good strat this year. Can u write an article on some tips and stuff cuz ive never done it before and if u could gimme a quick list of some players you’re targeting when punting ft? (I’m on a 10-team, not too competitive so I could get some really nice steals)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jason: Sure thing, great idea! Might be a few weeks before we get to it as I’m focused on these rankings, but I’ll have it on the radar for sure!

  22. Nick says:
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    Hey guys!
    So I’m looking at giannis to have an ultimate pairing of him and draymond and hopefully future trio if Ben Simmons develops into something similar to those guys.

    My my goal is to dominate in boards, blocks, FG%, and be more than competitive in AST, STL’s and PTS while winning the occasional 3’s and even potentially not losing FT% each night.

    Heres my my current team: 8 cat dynasty, 12 teams

    Guards – Wall, oladipo, Knight, Lavine, G. Harris, Barton (who I’ll be dropping)

    Forwards – draymond, Covington, Simmons (must have a rookie each year) Griffin,

    centers – whiteside, nurkic, Len.

    The other manager is stingy for trading so I’ve offered him Wall + Len which he is considering.

    if he comes back and it’s not enough what would you guys suggest?

    I’ve also got the draft rights to Murray. My thought process as well is that by swapping wall for giannis I have enough assists to win while gaining huge in FG% and padding my BLKS.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Nick: Yo! Sorry for the delay, took a weekend off haha. Gotta love the long weekends!

      So what are the keeper rules, keep as long as you can without limitation? I think Nurk + Wall for Giannis would be good with me. Maybe try Lavine + Wall first. I will say I’m worried about your FG% with Covington, Simmons, Knight, Lavine, Nurk… I think you could try to make some moves on that. But yeah, gets a ton better if you nab Giannis!

      • NIck says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Thanks! Yes its keeper forever type of thing. Capela is sitting on our FA wire and I’ll be aggressively going after him in our FA draft once I drop some guys. Knight has definitely got to go but I’m waiting till he “hopefully” improves his value at some point during the season. I think Covington’s FG% could go up with Simmons running the show and Lavine’s FG% is surprisingly good. So yeah I might sit tight on it until the season starts. If Giannis explodes and suddenly realizes his ceiling this season I’ll be kicking myself but until then in 8cat him and wall are pretty on par.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @NIck: Well Lavine seemed to be a little fluky, but if he can replicate, then definitely he will be a great piece! Covignton I think will stay low since so many of his shots are 3s. Definitely need Capela on the punt teams!

  23. Jay says:
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    In a 10 team H2H 10 cat (OREB) league… what would your ideal first and second round pairings look like?

    And in a punt FT% build… would you pair Steph with DeAndre or Andre Drummond?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jay: Yeah def getting bigs early and oftener in OREB haha. I like DeAndre with Steph – less of a need for Pts or Stl that Drum offers. Can’t go bad either way. You deffffff want to punt FT% with an extra cat, and it being OREB. Drum and DeAndre move to like mid 2nd rounders so might not last with Curry. So yeah an elite guy with a FT punt big is how I would attack every slot haha. Cousins moves up

  24. Tom says:
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    Hey guys! Love the list so far! Can’t wait for the rest. So, I have pick 10 in my 12 team league. We only run 8 categories, with all the usual stuff except we don’t do turnovers. I’m pretty sure I’m going to be taking either Paul George or Kawhi with my first pick. Who would you guys recommend to pair with those guys as my 2nd pick? I’ve been thinking if I grab George, I’d take Lowry in the 2nd, and if I have Kawhi, I’d take Millsap. I’d love to hear your guys thoughts. Thanks!

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      @Tom: Hey man! Thanks for stopping by! Usually would LOVE Kawhi/Millsap, but in 8 cat, it’s not as strong. I lovvvvve Wall ahead of both Lowry and Millsap in 8 cat. Cousins up too. I think George at 10th is a little high, I’d rather Wall/Cousins than George/someone else for example. Hope that helps a little!

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        @JB Gilpin: That’s very helpful JB! I’m still leaning Kawhi as my 1st round pick just because that all around contribution is so nice. Fingers crossed that Wall is still there in the 2nd. If I don’t get Kawhi in the 1st, I’ll probably go Wall.

        What would you recommend going with if I build around Kawhi? Building through Kawhi is so tricky for me, I don’t know why. Wall would be soooo nice, but I’m skeptical he’s there at 15. If I do end up with Kawhi/Millsap, I’ve been thinking about tackling assists with my next 2 picks through guys like Teague/Bledsoe/Batum, before going big again with your boy Dieng or Jokic. As you can see, I love the all around guys. Thoughts?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Tom: Oh yeah it definitely is, but he’s even better in 9 cat with TO thrown in there. But yeah, Kawhi/Wall or Wall/seomthing would be nice.

          I love the all around too my man! But yeah, I like attacking AST. All the AST guys should be going earlier in 8 cat, so yeah hopefully Wall 15, if not Lowry, if both are gone, I’m thinking maybe Lillard or Draymond?

  25. Henry says:
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    Hey Guys,
    Really love your rankings! Help to organize my mind a lot:)
    One quick question, I have pick 5 in 9 cat h2h 12 man league. It seems to me none of the top 4 ppl love KD with his big move his summer so he will fall to me together with KAT, really struggling here with the choice (KD got a risk in fitting in Warriors and potential DNP in the season, and look at ESPN those guy lean to KAT now) could you please help me out here? And if I got KD or KAT, which category should I punt? I am looking at punt assist and get a bunch of those shooting guards in the late round to pump up my 3s and stl, how should you like to go with this approach?

    Really appreciate your comment!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Henry: Hah thanks man, we try! More to come as we fill this out to the top 200!

      I think you gotta take KD. KAT is still young, so there’s still a chance he has some sophomore slumps, and KD’s scoring should still be elite. I don’t think you HAVE to punt if you start with either of these guys! What makes them top 5 picks 🙂 Of course your 2nd and 3rd round picks might guide you to punts, but I don’t think either is a launching pad for punting after just their pick

  26. Pong says:
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    Giannis is now listed as PG, SG and SF on yahoo now.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Pong: Oh sweet! I would have it boost him maybe over Kawhi, but Yahoo is very lax with positions, I rarely have issues with positional eligibility anymore on Yahoo.

  27. Threekola says:
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    Sup boys

    Just something I noticed…

    Only real difference between Dipo and Hayward is 0.5 steals and 0.4 blocks. Are those stats enough to seperate them 17 ranks, especially considering Hayward has him beat in points/treys? Are there really 16 people who’s value are somewhere in between them? Niether are real injury risks either.

    If this is because Slim is in charge of the stats, then I wanna know what your projections of each are JB, so we get to the bottom of why they’re so far apart.

    Thanks,
    ya boy Threekola

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Threekola: What’s good man?! Well, Slim does the projections and I rank as you mention, I think Slim is a little more bullish on Hayward than I am.

      Slim’s Dipo: .450/.825/1.5/19.0/5.1/4.2/1.8/0.8/2.6 :36

      I might go a smidge lower on FG%, AST, and BLK. Rest I agree with.

      Slim’s Hayward: .440/.820/1.8/20.0/5.0/4.2/1.3/0.4/2.6 :36

      Def not buying the AST, I think more like 3.0. Pts – I don’t think he scores a career high. But 19 is fine. Then rest looks good.

      So yeah, I think the 1.8/I’ll say 0.6 BLK for Dipo, with 3.8-3.9 AST is worth the difference of /1.3/0.3 STL/BLK and 3.0 AST

  28. Dave says:
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    Does harden + Jordan combo a good idea? I’m feeling it’s gonna be wasting hardens elite free throw percentage.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Dave: Yeah exactly, I don’t think I would go that direction. I’d much more like to go Prozingis and possibly punt FG%…

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        @JB Gilpin: what if i can get Jordan and Drummond with harden?

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          @Dave: If you could have it guaranteed, I don’t think it would be the worst route, you’re just punting FT then and still have TO an issue with Harden. But Dragic in the 4th mixed with that…? Then I think it would work

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            @JB Gilpin: just seems like a good idea to punt, since punt teams wins the title in our league the last couple years.
            Another question, this year we have a game limit of 40 games per week, is there any draft strategy you would suggest, does multi catg guys like dipo/parson gets a little more boost? Since I have the first overall pick I’m leaning towards harden with Drummond/Jordan build or brolo/poison goose. And for my next picks I would go with parson + pg depending on if I punt or not.

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              @Dave: My first RCL I did a punt FT, but it’s not something I “go out of my way” to do, ya know? Which is why FT seems a weird route to go with Harden. I would punt FG and TO with him, like target Porzingis and Noel as early bugs instead.

              Ummmm, nah 40 games just limits streaming a little bit, it wouldn’t drastically change my draft. Although I normally stream 3s and pts a lot so I def think curry would be my first pick, but not like I have him and harden (my #2) far apart

  29. Theo says:
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    Great rankings as always! Excited for the season to start!

    Just a couple of questions – in an 8 cat 12 team H2H league who would you take first, PGeorge or Giannis? I have the tenth pick and I really love how PG played last year despite him slowing down towards the latter part of the season. Do you really think Giannis can sustain his super stat stuffing ways for a whole season? Lastly who would you pair with either PG or giannis in the second and 3rd rounds?

    Thanks in advance!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Theo: Thanks man! Look for this post to be updated shortly!

      I’m still gonna go Giannis. Both get the same little boost with it 8 cat taking out their TO and I just love the defensive upside from Greek more. I think he can indeed keep it up, just got paid too!

      8 cat H2H, I REALLY hate punting. So might go for FT gainers with Giannis, maybe Lowry. George definitely getting a big next, maybe Whiteside falls to the 2nd in 8 cat. Might be able to get Giannis AND George in a 12er in the 10th or 11th spot!

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        @Theo: @JB Gilpin: Crap you said 10th already haha. Yeah Giannis then “hope” George falls!

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          @JB Gilpin:

          Haha thanks for the quick response! Was leaning towards the Greek Freek as well but I always find it harder to get PG in the 15th spot as compared to Giannis. People in mocks always tend to get George first in the ones that I’ve tried out so far.

          How about Giannis and Millsap? Their combined steals and blocks would be insane! Or maybe Giannis and Wall? Btw, does Wall’s offseason knee surgies give him a big red flag or this shouldn’t stop me from scooping him up in the 2nd?

          Thanks again!!!

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            @Theo:
            *Freak

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:
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              @Theo: Any time, what we do! Wowwwwww, people taking George AHEAD of Giannis outright?! Nuts to me. But yeah, I would LOVE Giannis Millsap too! Crazy D stats. But Wall indeed would be my first choice over Millsap in 8 cat, take out Wall’s TO and he’s beastly

  30. Marshall says:
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    Hey guys,
    Great rankings so far! With all this talk on punting, I am strongly considering it this year..
    I have the 4pick in the draft, which means I will probably end up with durant. Is it crazy punting FT with durant? I just think that, if nobody good falls to me in the 2 round, a pick of Drummond/Deandre may be the way to go…
    Also, is Slim doing his playoff schedule masterpiece? It has been awesome the last couple of years!
    Thanks!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Marshall: Hey man, thanks so much, appreciate it! Ummmm, maybe, only reason I punted my first RCL team was I had 8th pick and went CP3, then cousins was still on the board at 17, so felt I kinda had to get him, then FT punted from there. I always say let the srtategy come to you during the draft, but I don’t like to go out of my way to punt, I dunno if that early I would start punting FT out of the gate and take away KDs nice contibution there.

      Slim has to get some projections done then is on the playoff sched! I’ll point him here to light a fire under his bum!

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        @JB Gilpin: yeah, but with the new team, doesn’t KD settle more for shots instead of attacking the rim? I m not seeing KD going 7 times to the FT line like he did last year.
        I am only considering this because I think I can get both Drummond and Deandre with my 21 and 28 picks…My team would basically be a lock in FG, rebounds and pretty much blocks (with a Capela pick later). My other option is picking Kemba (don´t really trust him, he had a career year but I have my doubts he repeats that) or Porzingis at 21. Maybe I can even get both at 21/28, that would perhaps sell me on not punting. Just curious, who would you pair with Durant?
        Thanks again!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Marshall: Well sure, I think it goes down some too, but a guy shooting high-80%s in let’s sayyyyy. 5.5 FTA a game? That’s still a big contribution. I like the Kemba and Porzingis route, I have faith Kemba is legit and love Porzingis. Your FG% will either need to be a punt or need a lot of work and you’ll be going PG heavy in the mid rounds, but I would like it!

  31. John says:
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    great rankings as always. Make much more sense than Yahoo’s in my opinion

    My league is a 12 team league, head to head, and they account for basically all stats including minutes, personal fouls, double double, and triple doubles.

    what is a good combo to start off you think? and which category should i consider punting you think?

    Last year i drafted a well around team, but still lost so I would like to try out the punting strategy this year

    Thanks in advance man

    • JB Gilpin

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      @John: Thanks so much! And well, they better make more sense than some of Yahoo’s lunacy! Otto Porter top 40?! Crowder and Fourner OUTSIDE the top 200?!?! Haha.

      Well for punting, my first cat is always TO. If I can hoard PG and get consistent balls in my hands (hah), I feel like it keeps you from being prone to streaks. Then the second is up in the air – I know a lot of people talk about FT punt a ton, but I only punt a non-TO cat if the draft presents it to me – and I got served a FT punt on a platter in this draft I felt like: http://basketball.razzball.com/jbs-random-commenter-league-draft-recap

      Combo totally depends on what your draft spot is, you know what pick you’ll be yet? Some early favorites are Whiteside/Wall, and Harden/Porzingis

  32. bahraspower says:
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    Hey!Glad you fixed the issue with the comments!

    I was wondering how do you think my homie giannis will be affected fantasy-wise after the middleton news.He is my primary target on an upcoming draft and looking at some on-off splits for him with and without the duchess from last season i saw some really weird things!
    Firstly,the assist ratio increased substantially despite the-alleged- worse spacing.And most incredibly the greak freak eFG% climbed from 49,5 to 54,4 when middleton was on the bench!
    Defensive stats were a bit worse but that could be a coincidence.

    I guess that means that antetokounmpo is a 1st rounder no matter what.

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      I meant FG% not eFG% but the rise is almost identical in both.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @bahraspower: Yup, sorry about that! Just updated all the Bucks changes I see. Giannis up, Jabari up, Teletovic up, Duchess OUT.

        I already had Greek a first rounder, but yeah, 10 to 8 for me 🙂

  33. Kaz says:
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    Are punting categories worth it or is it better to draft a well balanced team?

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      @Kaz: Probably the most asked question in fantasy basketball and this is the best I’ve got for an answer. League settings are the most important thing and for these rankings its (mostly) for 12 team Y! 9cat. I’ve heard/read punting called an “advanced” strategy but I don’t really agree with that. I think it’s actually easier to make a good punt team than a good well balanced team, it just takes a different approach. In a well balanced team every category has equal value (relatively) so these rankings are pretty much what I would draft based off of. In a punt scenario, which should be decided by your 3rd pick at the latest, everyone’s value changes drastically based off what you’re punting, what you MUST win, and what you should win. If you have the changes in rankings done predraft then you’re way ahead of the curve and since you have certain guys ranked higher than those managers going for a well rounded team you have a better chance of actually getting those certain guys.

      So there is no better or worse, just different. But I will say that a great punt team will usually beat a great well rounded team. Also it’s a little easier to make the playoffs as a balanced team since you can beat a bad team 8-1 but the punt team usually still maxes out at 6-3 or so.

      • Kaz says:
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        @Slim: Great answer bro, makes a lot of sense thanks a lot! I’ll make sure to put that to use during the the RCL drafts :D.

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          @Slim: @Kaz:

          To be honest, I’ve been thinking about this too. Slim, you seem to prefer punt teams from your tone? Last year I won my league with a well balanced team, but a punt team just seems more exciting to me. All I need is to be convinced that it is NOT putting myself at a disadvantage and I’ll do it.

          However, at the moment I just believe that it only hurts me. Here is why.

          The overall reason here is almost exactly what you mentioned Slim. You can never really blow a team out. This can be really bad because you would need everything to go well in the categories you plan on winning just to win, say, 6-3. If you have a bad week, you’re just adding losses to the ones you have already guaranteed for yourself.

          The usual response to this is that it goes both ways. You would tell me something like “But you’re BARELY EVER going to lose the category you made must-wins.” That’s exactly the thing though. When you have a good punt team, you are hardcore punting at least one category, and you will lose all but 1 or 2 miracle weeks throughout the season, if any. BUT, I do not see the same guarantee to win the categories you’re getting a bump in.

          How much are you REALLLYYYY helpling yourself in other categories when you draft punt teams?

          The only realy punt team I consider an almost guaranteed win in a category in exchange for the guaranteed loss is the famous FT% punt with at least TWO of the beast boarders (Deandre/Drummond/Cousins). And maybe Gobert.

          Yes, you will be a monster in rebounds. However, there is literally a 0.01% chance to win FT% against literally any team that isn’t a complete FT punt. I have barely ever seen a team with EITHER of those guys beat a team that doesn’t have one of those guys in FT%. I think it’s safe to say having two of them is as guaranteed a loss in the category as the sun rising tomorrow morning. Now, although all the FT% punt bigs happen to be great rebounders, it still isn’t a GUARANTEED win in that category. Therefore, I see nothing but a slight disadvantage.

          For something like a punt FG% or punt TO team, on the other hand, I view them as almost never a good idea. There aren’t enough high TO guys that dominate certain categories to guatantee you wins. Same for FG guys. Yeah, you might be able to pair Harden with Wall or PG or Lillard, but you’re just guaranteeing a loss in TO with no real guaranteed win in a category. It just doesn’t seem effetive. I’d much rather try to patch up the holes along the way to give myself a good chance to win TO or FG% every week and still be very competitive in the other stats, especially if I draft well.

          And as for punting TWO CATEGORIES?!?!?! Like a FG% AND TO punt team, I see absolutely no point to dig yourself into a hole that deep. ABSOLUTELY no point.

          I know I emphasized this enough but to sum it up:

          You’re guaranteeing more losses than wins.

          Please convince me otherwise because I bet it’s really fun to own a punt team. Thanks as always guys.

          -Ya boy Threekola

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Kaz: @Slim: @Threekola: Building off what Slim said – yeah that’s what makes fantasy basketball drafting so unique. As opposed to baseball (Oh, I need steals!) or football (Oh, I need a WR!), basketball ranks change dramatically based on your team build as the draft moves on based on needs.

            Definitely a good point is Slim’s record argument. Might be easier to win a league title with a punt team, but there’s no way a punt team will win the overall RCL title. The overall winner will need to be churning 8-1 or 7-2 wins every week, which would be tough for a punt.

            To add to this, I will say that for active managing, a well-rounded team is easier to stream for particular stats on weekend to target the 8-1 wins. A punt team requires less maintenance in that regard – which could be a plus or minus depending on the owner.

            Alas, when a draft goes down though, sometimes punts just “come” to you, and that’s when I punt. hahahah Threeekola, I drafted a punt FT team as my first RCL and got Drummond/Cousins/Gobert. 3 of your 4! I kinda hated my 8th draft slot… Wah.

            Yeah, you can’t punt two categories and expect it to go too swimmingly.

            My only hope to “convince” a punt, is when you’re behind the 8-ball with your draft slot. I went Paul, then Cousins was on the board at 17. I just felt I had to take his value, and start figuring out the build afterwards. If you have a top-5 pick, hell even with top-6 and taking Brow probably, there’s virtually no reason to go out of your way to punt. But my outright talent is going to be behind vs. those teams, so it was what it was

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              @JB Gilpin:

              Wow, good point about targeting 8-1 wins through streaming JB. Just adding more reason for me not to punt here though lmao!

              Wow, well with those three I’d say you’re as guaranteed to win boards as you are to lose FT%, as long as you have a couple more decent rebounders to support. But still…even when it’s such a monster punt team, the two cats just cancel each other out so the punt almost seems pointless to me. Do you see what I’m saying?

              I also see what you’re saying with the Cousins pick. Yeah, you just gotta take him there. Despite his many issues, at the end of the day no one in the second round…shit, no one really after the top 5 or 6 fills up the stat sheet like Cousins. TOs included 🙂

              But if it were me in your spot after having picked CP/Cuz…I would not have my mind made up on taking jussssst yet. Did you? Or maybe you saw Drummond available and thought you had to go for it lol.

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                @Threekola: Yeah I mean don’t get me wrong, I almost never punt myself! Well I win blocks, win rebounds, and should be FG% strong, it’s impacting more than just rebounds…

                Yeah it was like in the late 30s, and both Drummond and Jordan were on the board the pick in front of me, they took jordan, so Drummo it was!

  34. Blair says:
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    Might be time to slide Middleton out of the top 50 and maybe slight Giannis up a spot or two Razz.

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      @Blair: Hah we’re on it!

  35. Zinger says:
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    Thoughts on Bucks trading Tyler’s Ennis for Beasley?

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      @Zinger: I moved Beasley up a good bit in the ranks here, to 135. Nice scoring gamble, but I do worry his lack of a perimeter game hurts their needs a little.

      Ennis… Meh, I dunno if he plays all that much

  36. Jeremy says:
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    Westbrook is fg punt, yet he’s projected at 43.5 % while harden is 44% fg. So is harden fg punt too?

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      @Jeremy: Since JB doesn’t do projections I’ll take this one. That might be a smidge too high for Westbrook… But yeah I think either fits a punt FG% team and more than anything for both guys its about volume. A 43% and probably even 44% shooter with 20 shots a game is worse for your overall FG% in a given week than a 42% shooter with 10 shots per game. Do you HAVE to punt FG% with them? No way. But personally I like punt FG% because its a volitile cat anyway. Must win cats would be 3s, FT%, and assists. Should win are steals and points and with the right guys, Goose and Nurk for instance boards and blocks are completely within reach. I punt FG% in the REL dynasty. Its alot of fun and when everyone is on FG% becomes pretty competitive. It also lets you play alot of young guys since FG% usually takes the longest to develop.

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        @Jeremy: @Slim: I still think you can recover FG% from either. Thing with Harden is his FG% accounts for making a lot more 3s. Westbrook doesn’t hit a ton of deep balls, so you have to make up 3s AND more FG%, which is much harder.

  37. jay says:
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    Bosh fails physical. Bummer for him in reality really (unless he still gets paid..)if career is over.

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      @jay: Brutal news… Although, my sub-100 rank for any early drafters proved right! I almost put a note in that he’s out of the ranks, but let’s see how it plays out. I’ll update the blurb though.

  38. phil says:
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    I need to keep 3… antetokounmpo, bazemore, wiggins, kaminsky, len, clarkson, mudiay, oladipo, d’angelo russell, westbrook,morris, porter, tucker, bout, jordan hill, okafor, vucevic ?

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      @phil: I think I got this on another post but I think it’s pretty clear Giannis, Oladipo, Westbrook. Nice group to have!

  39. justin says:
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    in a 8 person h2h 9 cat league. i have the 3rd pick. spoke to a few ppl in this league and it seems like the first two picks will be KD and russ. what do you think about taking steph 3rd and combo him up with giannis with my 2nd pick? who else should i target in the other rounds.

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      @justin: With that build you could go anywhere next. You have every category covered already with assists being through the roof. I think I’d go for a big next, try to shore up blocks. But really you could just go best player available esp since in an 8er everyones teams are chock full of all-stars. Oh and I like where this team is going already by the way, you could go FT punt if you want but don’t need to and you’re off to a great start in FG% which is tough to do with assists being as high as they are.

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        @justin: @Slim: Dude, that would be an unreal combo, I have Steph 1 and Giannis 8, so I am all for it. Agree, I think big man is the next way to go. I def think you stay balanced, you have all those monster stats with good %s as it as

  40. Foreign Affairs says:
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    If this is the end of Bosh on the Heat, what do you think about guys like McRoberts and Derrick Williams for this season JB and Slim? Winslow definitely belongs where you guys have placed him now, maybe alittle higher but tough to put him over those ahead of him. I don’t see the guards playing much sf especially with Wades 30 minutes a game needing to be filled. And without Bosh last year there was 33 min for Deng, 32 min for Joe Johnson and 14.7 min for Amare ain’t none of them around now and I don’t envision Udonis and James Johnson taking many of those let alone doing much. So I can see McRoberts or Derrick being just inside the 200 as a result of their production just from getting minutes.

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      @Foreign Affairs: I don’t see how it isn’t. I think this is the end of Bosh’s career in basketball, not just with the Heat. McBob is OK and he should get some run but I don’t think he’ll be anymore than a stream, but a pretty good one if he gets up to 24 minutes per game (I doubt). Williams is the guy I think sneaks into the top 200. He was really solid as a bench scorer for NY last year and I could see his minutes going up on Miami since scoring from a forward is probably their biggest need, esp their now incredibly weak 2nd unit. I’m not sure who starts at PF yet either, I’d start Winslow at PF but I don’t think they actually do that. James Johnson should get some minutes too but my money is on Derrick Williams and it isn’t out of the question that he becomes 12er relevant at some point. I don’t think Waiters playing some SF is out of the question in a small ball lineup with Tyler Johnson at the 2 and Dragic at PG. But they certainly won’t start the game that way.

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        @Foreign Affairs: @Slim: Yeah this sucks for all involved, I just hope Bosh is healthy and can lead a healthy life. Yeah McBob seems so waffly in minutes, with injury issues as well. Agree with Slim, D-Will is the interesting option here. Obviously this update was done before we knew Bosh failed the physical and is likely done, so he’s out of the ranks and it makes an opening, might indeed be D-Will in the 190s or something…

  41. Matthew says:
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    Little help my friend! In a 10 team 10 cat league, who would you pick as 8th pick? Kawhi, Paul or KAT? And who would be your second pick after that (13th). Thank you and keep up the good work. This is the 5th year I’m following you here! Wish you all the best

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      @Matthew:
      go for the KAT… ^_^ me at 5th pick I got KAT already… ^_^

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        @Matthew: @JPaul: Whaaaaa KAT fell to 8?! Definitely take KAT!!! Then I’d look at PG. What’s the 10th cat, OREB? I think I’d go Wall at 13, seems to fit with KAT, then keep your eye open for good % 3p shooters in the mid rounds, ala Parsons.

        Thanks so much man, I appreciate you sticking with us all these years! Haha. Good luck in your draft!

  42. Melo says:
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    Is it possible with Capela on your team to be competitive in ft% cat? I’m really high on this dude but also worried that he’ll ruin that cat for me, and I prefer a well balanced team .

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      @Melo: It kills me to say it but yeah, FT% is toast. The only way he doesn’t is if he somehow only plays less than 20 minutes (which he did last year and had 2.74 attempts per game) but if that happens the counting stats won’t justify him being on a 12er team. With 28 minutes and the speed they are going to play at he might get to 5 or so attempts per game and if he shoots sub 40% again then he’s punt only. There is a small silver lining though. In 14-15 in the DLeague (24 min/38 games) he shot almost 60% with 4.5 attempts. In 13-14 oversees (21.5 min/43 games) he shot 56% on 2.33 attempts per game. Those numbers are significantly better than what he’s done in the NBA but I want to point out that those DLeague numbers came with a very high volume for only 24 minutes.

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        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Melo: @Slim: Yeah I tend to lean balanced teams as well. I think it’s possible though, depending on roster rules, obviously it’s harder in a shallower league. Also Slim, remember you will have some weeks where you can bench Capela in a start over the weekend, not like he’s locked on your roster. But yeah, it means the rest of your team has to be good at FT and your first few rounds guys has to have at least 1 or 2 BIG FT Volume guys

  43. patrickindo says:
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    got an offer, my Isiah Thomas and Brook Lopez for his KAT (and tristan thompson). i think it’s too good to be true, is there something that i’m missing?? it’s a 16 team league 9cat h2h.

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      @patrickindo: or am i overvaluing KAT?

      here’s my team for reference, appreciate any comments on the trade or my team

      1. (3) James Harden (Hou – SG,SF)
      2. (30) Isaiah Thomas (Bos – PG)
      3. (35) Brook Lopez (Bkn – C)
      4. (62) Jrue Holiday (NO – PG)
      5. (67) Chandler Parsons (Mem – SF,PF)
      6. (94) Evan Fournier (Orl – SG,SF)
      7. (99) Jusuf Nurkic (Den – C)
      8. (126) Markieff Morris (Was – PF,C)
      9. (131) Jared Sullinger (Tor – PF,C)
      10. (158) Tim Frazier (NO – PG)
      11. (163) Matt Barnes (Sac – SG,SF)
      12. (190) John Henson (Mil – PF,C)
      13. (195) Ivica Zubac (LAL – C)

      • JPaul says:
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        @patrickindo:
        go… you will get 3pts stat for sure….

      • BopBop SimSim says:
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        @patrickindo:

        who are you going to add in the other roster spot?

        16 team is very deep and giving up 2 top 40 guys for a guy who might be top 5 is find but you need to go to the wire to get another body and there can’t be anything left inside the top 200 for that last spot.

        you also have no assists except for harden if you make that move. youre getting nothing out of jrue and need to il him and get something from the wire there also…

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          @BopBop SimSim: precisely. which is why i’m hesitating. on the wire the best source of ast is jarrett jack(…). whats making me lean towards it is brook injury/trade concern, IT production with horford in town, and KAT upside potential with Tibs minutes. if 2/3 if those favor the KAT side, finding some PGs as the year progresses would be worth

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            JB Gilpin says:
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            @patrickindo: @JPaul: @BopBop SimSim: @patrickindo: I dunno about the AST panic, getting Frazier was HUGE for you. It does hurt for sure though… I actually think you need big man stats on this team more than AST. I do the deal

  44. Mike says:
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    Need a PG with my last pick…I have them in this order. Who do you think?

    Bayless? Frazier? Dunn? Delly?

    I need to replace Jrue (hopefully not for too many games!)

    Thanks for your great articles and work!

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      @Mike:
      Frazier?

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        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Mike: @JPaul: I think I got ya on the Pod post, but yeah gimme Frazier! Fits the replacement you need

  45. JPaul says:
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    @JB Gilpin

    Please advise me with this line-up.. what should I do, What possible scenario and trades if possible… we are on 10 persons on our league H2H…. I just get players based on your ranks.. and not focusing stats… we are betting every week on H2H and winner takes all.
    (5) KAT
    (12) Millsap
    (8) Greek freak
    (22) B. Lopez
    (26)Bledsoe
    (44) Rubio
    (38) Parsons
    (40) Crowder
    (32) Dieng
    (78) Collison
    (80) A. Bradley
    (45) N. Jokic
    (76) A. Gordon
    This is my line up… I just get on your top 100 ranks.. no stat focus… I am so screwed on our tournament…. last year i just win 4 only…
    on our POOL your top up to 121…
    we have
    Nurkic
    Mudiay
    Noah
    Matt Barnes
    Beverly
    Capela
    Bayless
    Mason Plumlee

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      @JPaul:
      they laugh when I pick KAT on 5th pick on 1st round… and also shocked I am picking Greek Freak on 3rd round…

      • BopBop SimSim says:
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        @JPaul:

        dont make any changes. what kind of league is this where you can get kat trill freek gordon jokic dieng crowder parsons?!?!?!

        bro this team is a dream come true

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @JPaul: @BopBop SimSim: Yeahhhhh, this team is ridiculous. Do you have like anti-Greek people in your league or something?! Yeah you have no issues with this team. Mayyyyyyybe your scoring is a smidge low, but only barely. Your %s are awesome. No moves to make on your wire, I think if one of those bottom 4 guys starts mad hot, maybe you shop them for a more pure scorer, but that’s all i got!

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            @JB Gilpin:
            actually I am advantage on H2H but on weekly basis winner takes all pot.. I will be loser… its like mini rotesserie for a week only…. some of the players focus only 3 stats… 1 player i notice he focus on rebs/blocks/FG% some is 3pts/assist/steal… some FG/FT/TO.. and for some Pts/Reb/Assist… me i am targeting FG%/Steal/Rebs… about greek freak.. I should pick him at 4th or 5th or maybe 6th… btw our format is H2H but with a little twist on winner takes all bet per week… lol

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              @JPaul: I don’t see how you could be… I still think you’d be favored in 7 or 8 stats a week with a team this strong. Even if another team is targeting those sets of 3 stats, I bet you beat at least one of them, then win 5 or all 6 of the rest. I think you’ll be solid!

              • JPaul says:
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                @JB Gilpin:

                Thanks for the comment.. I will keep you updated with our league… If this team is solid or not.. ^_^

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                  @JPaul: Hah cool, sounds like a plan! We’ll help through the season as best we can!

  46. Peaniece says:
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    Hi JB! Unfortunately, I wasn’t able to swap my draft order so i decided to stick with my 15th pick but I made some minor tweaks (pick swaps) in order to land me the guys I want. I’m assuming my league mates won’t stray too far away from the espn projections while drafting and yours is quite different so it was quite easy for me to position myself to draft a guy 3-10 picks earlier than what is projected. My planning was a sum of best value per pick (according to your ranks) and my personal likes. Just to remind you, I’m on a 20 team (really deep…) h2h standard 9cat league. As long as people don’t stray too much away from the espn projections, I should be able to get most if not all of these guys.

    1 15- whiteside (i’d take giannis if i’m lucky enough to have him fall to me)
    2 34- porzinggis
    3 58- schroder
    4 66- gorgui dieng
    5 95- elfrid payton
    6 106- hood
    6 115- wesley matthews
    7 127- nurkic
    8 143- beverley
    10 186- tyson chandler
    11 215- Tim frazier
    12 226- Matthew dellavedova (or should I take zubac??)
    13 255- Josh Richardson —> IR
    Pickup: Jarred Dudley for the 13th spot

    I’m really high on schroder and I have the option of taking rubio(just not a fan), reggie (lack of steals and 3’s frustrate me) or conley (I find him boring) instead but this is what my gut tells me. Is this too wrong of a choice?

    Also, schroder is projected by espn as 66 while I have 58th overall (3rd round) I’m confident I can pull a trade off where I get the 63rd and 146th pick for my 58th and 186th. This means I can get to replace tyson chandler with either (according to espn projections) justise, sullinger, korver, matt barnes. Which one of these would you take?

    What are your comments on my team and how can I improve?

    Thanks in advance!!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Peaniece: Love the 20 teamers! And hopefully my picks work out!

      Mannnnn if Giannis fell to 15. I would be ecstatic!

      I think if you feel confident getting Elfrid at 95, I am all for skipping on Rubio for Schroder at 58. Think is, you REALLY need Elfrid to keep your AST competitive going non-AST sources first two picks. That’s why I have Rubio ranked a smidge higher, since he fits non-G builds so wellwith the 4th pick in 12ers (or 3rd in your deep league haha).

      Tough to pass on Zubac all the way at 226, but I think Della D fits ya better.

      If it’s indeed Whiteside first and not Giannis, you’re going to be wayyyyy low in scoring. But I’m loving the rest! nice %a and D stats. If you’re able to pull off that trade, I have Justise ranked highest, but kinda think upside of Sullinger for 3s and scoring might be way to go. Hope that helps!

  47. Toni says:
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    No McDermott in top200? 0.o

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      @Toni: Nahhhh, I’ve never been a McBuckets guy. Pure ThrAGNOF with no other stats in a bench role behind a bedrock starter in Jimmy Butler…. I don’t see enough there…

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Thank you!

        This is my team:
        Chris Paul
        Russell Westbrook
        Eric Bledsoe
        Eric Gordon
        Justin Anderson
        Rudy Gay
        Chandler Parsons
        Tobias Harris
        Chris Bosh
        Serge Ibaka
        Nicola Vucevic
        Gorgui Dieng
        Jusuf Nurkic
        Enes Kanter
        John Henson

        I need sombody in Bosh place. I think i will need 3´s and blk. Best players in FA are:
        D. McDermott
        N. Powell
        J. Dudley
        D. Powell
        M. Barnes
        T. Frazier
        Z. Randolph
        A. Johnson
        T, Mozgov
        C. Lee
        J. Green
        T. Lawson
        J. Jack
        Kilpatrick

        Who should I choose?

        • Toni says:
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          @Toni:
          Sorry! It´s dinasty-roto-12er- 11cat (3´s + %3)

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Toni: Cool, interesting format. A lot on 3 pt shooters, so I see why you have the interest in McBuckets. Pure needs I think barnes fits, although his % is a little rough. I kinda like Dudley for the need. Although pure value, especially to start the season, I’d nab Tim Frazier

  48. Paul says:
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    “Ich liebe the german” ist gutes deutsch!

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Paul: so I got it right?!?!?! danke!!!

      • Paul says:
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        @JB Gilpin: absolutely!

  49. Muggsy says:
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    Hey, please help me with my lineup. I am in a 7 team Roto with my friends and thanks to you guys I was able to win last year! This is what I ended up picking…
    James Harden (4)
    Anthony Davis (11)
    Giannis Antentokoumpo (18) IKR… steal
    B. Lopez (25)
    Eric Bledsoe (32)
    K. Porzingis (39)
    Gorgui Dieng (46)
    Jae Crowder (53)
    Ricky Rubio (60)
    Chandler Parsons (67)
    Gordan Dragic (74)
    Kent Bazemore (81)
    Jusuf Nurkic (88)
    Although it seems like a very good lineup, there is 2-3 people in our league that doesn’t know what they’re doing, so some people’s squad’s are also looking good. What you think I could accomplish with this lineup. Thanks again

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Muggsy: Muggsy Bogues?!?!?! I met you once! haha.

      Awesome, glad we helped man!

      Hahaha yeah Giannis at 18 is insane. All your first 3 picks are crazy. Dragic at 74 was a steal too. It’s sometimes hard to break down the teams in shallower leagues since everyone has a nasty team haha, but I think you’re solid. Awesome %s especially FT% being a lock, Harden helps you stay good in 3s, D stats look good, mayyyybe your rebounds will be a little light, esepcially depending on Nurk’s role out of the gate, so I might look for bigs that become must own that don’t hurt your FT%. Good luck this year man, let’s get a repeat!

      • Muggsy says:
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        Hey! Thanks for the feedback, wondering if I should maybe drop Bazemore for Kanter? Thanks for the work, keep it up!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Muggsy: Rebounding is a need and Kanter doesn’t hurt you anywhere really… I’m for it!

  50. pitt318 says:
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    Hi JB,

    We just finished our draft for 12 Team, H2H league. I think I had some incredibly picks and would like to ask for you comment regarding my team. Thanks.

    PG – Elfrid Payton
    SG- Wesley Matthews
    SF – Giannis Antetokounmpo
    PF – Hassan Whiteside (pretty sure I had him at Center but espn ranked him as PF)
    C – Gorgui Dieng
    G – George Hill
    F – Paul Millsap
    UTIL – Derrick Favors
    UTIL – Jae Crowder
    UTIL – Jordan Clarkson
    Bench – Robert Covington
    Bench – Jusuf Nurkic
    Bench – Matt Barnes

    • JB Gilpin

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      @pitt318: Hahah wtf?! ESPN calls Whiteside a PF only?! So weird. Yeah this team is pretty incredible. Love the bigs, our %s look AWESOME. Your RO are in good shape too. I think your Pts/3s/Ast are the stats a little behind right now, but the former 2 cats you can stream easily. If Elfrid really blows up like I think he can, AST will be solid too. Depending on how you’re going to start the year, I might look for a PG in the trade market. Is Tim Frazier on the wire as a stopgap? He would fill some holes for example.

      • pitt318 says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I think ESPN haven’t updated multiple positioning yet but it’s still weird that Whiteside is primarily a PF in their ranks.

        I’ll keep in mind your suggestion but in your opinion, who would be the player that’s safe for me to trade/drop without affecting my strengths that much?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @pitt318: Yeah, weird indeed. Oh and “RO” above was “TO” haha sorry. I really like Barnes this year to be a surprise value, but he’d be my first cut. And actually your 3s look better at second look, kinda glossed over RobCo. I would say for trading, if Gorgui started MAD hot, like way better than even I expect, then maybe him since your REB/STL/BLK are all good and your %s and TO are pretty solid

  51. Quaz says:
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    amazing work on the top 200 list. Still my go to list for drafts 🙂

    question – Im picking at 9, and with Middleton going down, im looking hard at Giannis and a punt FT build. What do you think of pairing him with Draymond? I think my other option may be Lowry…….

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Quaz: Thanks so much man, appreciate that! I hope this helps win some titles! Yup, love me some Giannis there at 9 now! I think I like Lowry as a better fit, since I don’t think you *need* to punt FT with Giannis out of the gate. Lowry would give you unreal scoring, boost back up those 3s, and give you FT% and volume. That would be an epic pair 🙂

      • Quaz says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        hmmm good point. For some reason I have it in my head that Giannis first = punt FT

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Quaz: Yeah high volume 72% isn’t great, but he’s still young and I think can improve

  52. kai says:
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    per game finish / total finish
    15-16
    Aldridge 26 / 26
    Griffin 41 / DNQ

    14-15
    Aldridge 14 / 17
    Griffin 28 / 41

    13-14
    Aldridge 13 / 23
    Griffin 24 / 15

    just a thought…

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @kai: I hear ya. Aldridge is 30+ though on the Spurs, I know BG has missed a lot of games recently as well, but that’s my main factor picking between the two

  53. kai says:
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    Patty Mills feels like he should just edge the top 200 for threes/points and the off chance Parker’s body breaks down.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @kai: Hmmmm, yeah that’s a good call. As I mention on Parker, he actually had a great 15-16, but he’s so old, one turned ankle might be the end. I’ll add him to the maybe pile for updates through the preseason

  54. Ryan Donnelly says:
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    Who do you guys like more in a two keeper league Wall and Cousins giving up my first two picks or Kemba Walker giving up a fifth round pick with one of the other two? 10 cat h2h…thanks

    • JB Gilpin

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      I have Cousins pretty far down this year, so I think I would do Wall giving up the first or second pick and keep Kemba in the 5th. 10 cat helps Cousins a little, but I think Kemba can repeat and has more value in the 5th.

      • Ryan Donnelly says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Cool thanks man, I agree that the value for Kemba is there and I would have 2 top 10 pgs in a thin position. Also the dnps when the kings got eliminated from the playoffs last year really hurt me in fantasy playoffs. Thanks for the advice, always love your rankings.

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Ryan Donnelly: Appreciate that man, drop by any time!

  55. mel says:
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    Hi JB,

    May I ask for your feedback and possible adjustments for my team for our 14 Team, H2H league.
    It’s just my second time playing Fantasy and my last one wasn’t this deep.
    It sucks that we drafted before Middleton injury news was release and I had him drafted early.

    PG Eric Bledsoe
    SG Justise Winslow
    SF Matt Barnes
    PF Aaron Gordon
    C Karl-Anthony Towns
    G Emmanuel Mudiay
    F Jae Crowder
    UTIL DeAndre Jordan
    UTIL Nikola Jokic
    Bench Khris Middleton (out of injury)
    Bench Jrue Holiday (out indefinitely)
    Bench Luol Deng
    Bench Jared Dudley

    • JB Gilpin

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      @mel: Of course, any time! Uggghhhh yeah the Middleton news hurts. The real X factor here is what we get out of Aaron Gordon. I think you’re a little low in scoring (woulda been fine with Middleton, ugh) and assists, both of course are fixed when Jrue is on the court. If he ends up playing 70+ games you’ll be fine, but we just don’t know. Is Tim Frazier available? I also worry you’re FT% is likely a loss most weeks. Windlow, Gordon, Mudiay are all drains next to DeAndre. So if there was a Pts/Ast FT punt guy that you can try to trade for a few weeks in as a buy low, that would be my plan!

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks for your input. i was really looking forward on drafting frazier but someone got him just a pick before my turn. Trades in our league is really rare base on my experience last year since (fanboy) owners love to hold on to their players specially when they’re winning. Remaining free agents were not that good but looking at it, the one that could provide your said Categories would be Jarret Jack, Chalmers, Alec Burks, or Ish Smith. Which do you think would be best to replace Middleton (and someone else if needed) in my lineup?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @pitt318: Damn, yeah I don’t have a great feel on where he’s getting drafted, seemed he was available in some leagues outta the draft. Uggghhhh, yeah I don’t like any of those guys. I might just take best value and drop Middleton, and try to address in a trade, so I’d nab one of my top ranked guys on the wire

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            @JB Gilpin: Yeah, i’ll try that. It sucks what that middleton had to go down and lose one good player. Hope I can bounce back easily from this. And some other available guys would be Cameron Payne, Ty Lawson, Langston Galloway and Shaun Livingston. Still not feeling good about these guys but maybe you have something else in your mind with them. 🙂

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              @pitt318: Yeah for sure… Brutal injury. Ummmm, I could see taking a gamble on Lawson out of the gate, as he’s *projected* to be the starter while Collison is inevitably suspended. But I don’t have a ton of faith, I think Joerger players Farmar a good bit too. Lawson seems to fit needs though, and at least if he blows the first few games, no sleep lost moving on haha

  56. Harv says:
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    Hey guys,

    I have a 14 team H2H league draft coming up. Standard 9 cat. I have the 11th pick. What do you think of getting DeAndre and Drummond on back to back picks and punting FT%. Should lock up a few stats for me off the bat.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Harv: Ehhhhhh it feels like living too much value on the table right off the bat going that way. You’d have to put together both scoring and assists with virtually your next 6 picks. However, I don’t mind Cousins/DeAndre as much. But if like Whiteside is there at 11, or sayyyy, Giannis (!!!), yeah I am def taking those

  57. JOcampo says:
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    Hi JB,

    What can you say about my team? Should I improve it or is it already good to go? I’m in a 12-Team, 9-cat, H2H League.

    PG – Eric Bledsoe
    SG – Wesley Matthews
    SF – Draymond Green
    PF – Nikola Jokic
    C – Karl-Anthony Towns
    G – Dennis Schroder
    F – Dirk Nowitzki
    UT – Gorgui Dieng
    UT – George Hill
    UT – Justise Winslow
    Be – Markieff Morris
    Be – Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
    Be – Tyler Johnson

    Thanks for the feedback.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @JOcampo: I think it looks pretty good! No drastic measures I can think of. Blocks and to a lesser extent boards might be a smidge low, but Winslow being what I hope could help there. Scoring and 3s might be a little low too, but streaming a guy or two a week will fix that. Nothing I would want to immediately change before the season

  58. JPaul says:
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    hi JB what is the meaning of ThrAGNOF? sorry.. newbie here….

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @JPaul: Hah glad you asked! ThrAGNOF = Three’s Ain’t Got No Face. Started with me wanting a similar term to “SAGNOF” which is on the baseball side = steals/saves ain’t got no face, and boils down to not overdrafting or overvaluing guys that hit 3s and don’t do much else on the stat sheet. Those kind of stats are the easiest to find on waiver wires – Pts/3s. So JJ Redick for example, I call a ThrAGNOF because his metrics come out higher than his actual value, since you can stream 3pt guys and if he shoots a few clicks lower in %s, his value will be crushed. So there ya go, ThrAGNOF!

      • JPaul says:
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        @JB Gilpin:
        thanks…. now i know… 🙂

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @JPaul: For sure man!

  59. JK says:
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    Hey JB,

    I’m in a dynasty league and struggling with keepers. Here’s what I’m set on:
    Kyle Lowry
    Isaiah Thomas
    Elfrid Peyton
    Blake Griffin
    Serge Ibaka
    Tobias Harris

    The final player is a choice between
    DeAndre Jordan
    or
    Marc Gasol
    Thanks in advance for the advice!!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @JK: Whewwww, battkle of the bigs! DeAndre is annoying because you have pretty good Ft shooters minus Elfrid. Gasol’s foot thing scares me too much though. Gimme Jordan, and I’d be sure to address FT boosters in the draft

      • JK says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks JB, what I was leaning towards as well, keep ballin’!!!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @JK: You do the same my man!

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            @JB Gilpin: My hope is that with the free throw rule change DJ won’t be shooting as many free throws. The league is 10 team head to head roto.

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              @JK: Ohhhhhhh yeah roto changes things a bit. I still go Jordan, but yeah I would force myself to get good FT shooters every other pick

  60. Eric says:
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    Awesome site and rankings jb. How do you think I did? 12 team, 9 cat, had 9th pick in snake. Thanks! I think I’m a little weak in % and blocks but have a chance in most cats
    Giannis Antetokounmpo (Mil – PG,SG,SF)
    2. (16) Kyle Lowry (Tor – PG)
    3. (33) Brook Lopez (Bkn – C)
    4. (40) Gorgui Dieng (Min – PF,C)
    5. (57) Jae Crowder (Bos – SF,PF)
    6. (64) Ricky Rubio (Min – PG)
    7. (81) Chandler Parsons (Mem – SF,PF)
    8. (88) Robin Lopez (Chi – C)
    9. (105) George Hill (Uta – PG,SG)
    10. (112) Robert Covington (Phi – SF,PF)
    11. (129) Luol Deng (LAL – SF,PF)
    12. (136) Joel Embiid (Phi – C)
    13. (153) Allen Crabbe (Por – PG,SG)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Eric: Appreciate that man, thanks for dropping by! Ohhhhh man, Ricky at 64 and Parsons 81?! Love it! Yeah Fg% is iffy, if not for Covington, i think you could be OK there though. BLK are indeed light. I think scoring is something you’ll need to stream for here and there as well. But I like it overall for sure, nice work!

  61. Jerome says:
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    Hey great job with the rankings! First time being on here and its helped a lot.
    So im doing a draft tonight for a 10 team 8 cat H2H. Im planning on punting ft%, 3pt and scoring completely. This is for espn. Im willing to completely reach for Giannis from the fifth pick and up if i get the fifth pick. With that said, i know you said that getting a pg is very important in the early rounds, but with the way im playing, is getting Hassan, if hes available by the second round on my pick, or deandre jordan, then getting drummond a good thing? I realized if i do this, blocks and rebs are basically my cat, especially with RoLo, Clint Capela being in the late rounds and being able to be picked up. And by the fourth round i want to be able to get rajon, then grab ricky rubio and elfrid peyton later on. Those are so far the picks i really want. And obviously going for cat specialists in the later rounds. Would this be a good strat? What could i adjust, and what players could i also pick up with this strat?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jerome: Thanks man, and appreciate ya joining us!

      Whoa, I dunno about punting 3 cats in an 8 cat! You’d be giving up sooooo many wins that way. All that said, I don’t mind Hassan and Drummond at those ranges, and in 8 cat I could see Giannis being OK. It’s just in 8 cat, I ALWAYS draft guard heavy to start, because that fallback you mention with Rubio and Payton never seems to work – they get sniped earlier than you’d expect.

      I don’t mind mayyyyybe punting 1 cat in 8 cat, but punting 3 is going to put you at too much of a disadvantage I think…

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        Hmm… Well by going with your rankings, it would be a reach in an ESPN draft since rubio is in the 70s while peyton is around the high 90s while you have them like 2 rounds before that. I think id be easily capable of grabbing rubio and peyton. But what should i do at this point then? deandre and drummond/whiteside would mean i have a significant chance of winning fg%, rebs, blks, what else could i do to win 3 more cats?

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          And isnt the mentality of trying to win 5/8 cats the right mentality? Sorry, new to the game and have been trying to figure everything out and retain as much information as much as possible haha.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Jerome: Yeah well ESPN ranks for 9 cat usually I think…? Not exactly sure their process, but savvy players in 8 cat will know to put premiums on the PG, since taking out their TO makes their values skyrocket.

            There’s a difference between “targeting” 5 cats vs outright punting 3 cats. So with an injury or any sort of week to week volatility, you’re suddenly maybe dropping one or two of those 5 every week and then you’re a losing team. Plus, when you play weak teams/bad owners who aren’t streaming, you don’t get chance at those 7-1 or 8-0 wins. Punting for 5-3 wins in the playoffs makes sense, but over the long haul of the season, statistical noise is going to poach some of those wins you’re assuming you’d be getting

  62. Jura says:
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    guys would you do a trade. It is an odd 8 teams, 25 per team 12 active players semi dynasty league. 250$ cap, contracts…etc.. 🙂 i know it hard to say but what does your gut say?

    Favors 17$, Gortat 13$ and Hayword 18$ for Giannis 23$, Schroder 11$ and H.Barnes 4$ ?

    BTW, awesome work again this year. Waiting for RCL draft and freaking preseason 🙂

    Greets from Croatia

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jura: Oh I’m definitely taking the Giannis side. Soooooo much younger, Giannis is BY FAR best in the deal, and Favors being an injury risk scares me. Appreciate ya dropping by man, I can’t wait for hoops to start either man! Rep us well there in Croatia!

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        @JB Gilpin: I was thinking the same but wasn’t sure cause Barnes is crap 🙂 Love me some Dipo! Thnx JB

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          @Jura: Any time! Hah yeah Barnes is kinda a throw in, but at $4 I think he’s fine!

  63. Nishinga says:
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    Yo JB & Slim, back for another year, my h2h 9cat league grow up to 12 teams this year, gonna be tougher!
    Got the 12th picks, traded it for the 3rd pick, I’m going to have Curry at 3rd since our number 1 and 2 will be Westbrook and Harden, from then on its a complete mystery.
    I wonder if you would make playoff schedule article and table again this year?

    Thanks and happy new jewish year.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Nishinga: Welcome back my man, good to see ya! Awesome to see your league grow! Damn, awesome start to get Curry! And yup, Slim has it on his plate, he’s almost done with projections, then it’s to the H2H table, find a comment from Slim and remind him to get on it! Haha

  64. Banana Boat says:
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    Hey guys,

    Awesome work as always, been following razzball basketball for a few yrs now and you guys have always brought me to the promise land of fantasy playoffs! Just had a draft in a 12 team h2h standard league last night and I used your rankings like the word of holy bejebus. This is what I ended up with:

    Whiteside, wall, griffin, IT, parsons, reggie jackson, knight, bazemore, nurkic, kieff, barnes, mudiay, Richardson

    Please let me know what you guys think, feel like i squandered my first pick by not solidifying blocks. Thanks as always!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Banana Boat: Thanks man, appreciate ya following us! Glad we’ve helped ya out! Well Whiteside almost solidifies blocks himself, so there’s that! But yeah, you’ll prob be looking to add another blocks source off the wire when one emerges. I like this team! I like the Whiteside/Wall combo Slim and I have mentioned a few times, I think you did well to recover the scoring with Whiteside now a big scoring 1st rounder, %s are pretty good, I do think your TO is going to be a punt most weeks though, but that’s OK! Nice work!

  65. Kobe says:
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    Hey man!! Hows it going?
    What do u think of my team?, I dont think KCP and Mudiay fit my team very well lol, seeking trades for him

    (13) Lebron
    (35) Deadre Jordan
    (46) Gobert
    (53) Ariza
    (86) Randle
    (108) KCP
    (126) Mudiay
    (133) Will Barton
    (135) Marcus Morris
    (155) Bayless
    (166) Stephenson
    (206)Stanley Johnson
    (246)Jeremy Lamb

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Kobe: What’s up my man?! Going pretty good, excited for the season to start already! Haha. I actually like Mudiay a lot, you’re punting FT, so it makes sense, especially that late! You desperately needed AST too. The Randle pick I’m iffy on, you didn’t really need rebounding… I think you’ll be looking for low TO sources of AST/3s – Bayless fits that great that was an awesome pick – but you could use one more, ala Goerge Hill

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        @JB Gilpin: Ye yesderday i traded away Mudiay, morris and will barton for eric bledsoe and thon maker. Eric has the assist that i needed. I picked randle because im a lakers fan hahhahaha. Needed some lakers pieces. But ye thanks for that 🙂

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          @Kobe: Hah well i def like that trade! And I hear ya, getting a guy on a team you like makes you like and follow your fantasy team more, making you a better owner, so I’m good with it!

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            @JB Gilpin: Hahah thanks :), Also would u reckon i should trade bledsoe, Ariza for Porzingis and Rubio?

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              @Kobe: Damn, active trades! And yup, I would definitely do that deal! I think even with Rubio’s ankle issues, I think it’s a safer bet than Bledsoe, and Porzingis is best in the deal for me. And on aggregate, you improve ASt again. I like it!

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                @JB Gilpin: He didnt accept the trade 🙁 , U reckon this trade is good? Bledsoe and Ariza for draymond and rose?

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                  @Kobe: Damn! Uggghhhh Rose. You get best in deal in Dray. Lose sooooo many STL. Nah you need the STL, hold off on that one

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                    @JB Gilpin: Alright, i guess i’ll just stick to my team 🙂 thanks

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                      @Kobe: Sure thing!

  66. mel says:
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    Hi JB,

    Thanks for lot of helps on my drafts. I had joined another league and looking to ask for feedback regarding my picks. It is a 10 team, 9 cat H2H League. Really think I have a great chance to win this league with my picks.

    PG- John Wall
    SG – Jimmy Butler
    SF – Giannis
    PF – Love
    C – Towns
    G – Conley
    F – Tobias Harris
    UTIL – Gobert
    UTIL – Noel
    UTIL – Knight
    Bench – Covington
    Bench – Elfrid Payton
    Bench – Wesley Matthews

    Really looking forward on what you’ll say about it. 🙂

    • JB Gilpin

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      @mel: Glad to try and help, thanks for dropping by! Ummm, how you get Giannis AND Towns AND Wall?!?!? Yeah this team is straight ridiculous, Other than Matthews and RobCov I think all are in my top 60 haha. Only thing I can even think of is your FG% might have some rough patches, but this looks to be a force, nice work!

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks man!! Glad you like this team, can’t imagine to get this ina 10 team league. It was crazy that most owners in our league were drafting base on popularity. I even got Town (7), Giannis (14), and Wall(21) available when I didn’t expected to get them on those picks. If FG% is the only problem, might as well punt it and dominate them with other stats.
        I just hope that injury won’t hit my team this year. Injuries of Bledsoe, Griffin, Beal, and Valanciunas really hurt me last year.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @mel: Yeah that’s some crazy value, you get some silly guys in your league haha. Ugh yeah tough to recover from those guys, but you have a young team this year, I think you’ll be beastly

          • mel says:
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            Hi,

            @JB Gilpin:
            Hi JB,
            I was just checking our free agent list and was surprise to see Nurkic still available on Free Agency list. Would it be a good idea to drop Noel for Nurkic because of Noel’s injury or just drop either Matthews or COvington and see if Noel could still turn things around?

            • JB Gilpin

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              @mel: Whaaaaaaa?! Yeah def adding Nurk. Your team is so good, can’t believe how good of players you’d have to drop haha. Yeah F it, lose Noel. No reason to have anyone giving you nothing while he’s hurt with a team this good

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                @JB Gilpin: Thanks bro, looking forward on season opener next week. Hope it’ll be a good year for my team. 🙂

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                  @mel: Me too man, let’s get this started!

                  • mel says:
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                    @JB Gilpin: Bro, I was thinking of punting FG% as it seems to be my weaker than my other stats so I was asking for a trade to the Porzingis owner. He offered me Porzingis and Hayward for my Butler and Love. I’m still iffy on this because I’m not sure on the severity of Hayward’s injury and how long well he can play once he gets back from it. What are your thoughts on this matter?

                    • JB Gilpin

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                      @mel: Man that’s tough. Pozingis > Butler for me, but Love >Hayward. It does fully embrace punt FG. You don’t really need Porzingis’ blocks either. Ughhhh this one is so hard to pick. One thing is Butler is the most injury prone and Love might get DNPs in the H2H finals… I’ll very narrowly lean take it, Porzingis being best in deal and better outlook for fantasy playoffs

                  • mel says:
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                    @JB Gilpin: I didn’t make the Porzingis trade yet as I feel more comfortable having healthy players to start the season than having an injured hayward. But I made some trades before the season started. What could you say about these trades I made?
                    I had my Tobias Harris and Mike Conley traded for CJ McCollum and Dennis Schroder. And I had somebody traded his Joe Crowder for my Brandon Knight.

                    I think I got the best on both deals 🙂

                    • JB Gilpin

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                      @mel: Love that first deal! Conley and Schroder are about same range, def take CJ over Harris. And def like Crowder one too! Nice work!

                  • mel says:
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                    @JB Gilpin: Hi JB, I got an offer for my Butler, McCollum for Draymond and D’Angelo. I really like Draymond’s upside and longetivity for the season compared to butler but am I giving up too much from Dray here?

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                      @mel: Mannnnn that’s tough. Dray> Butler but McCollum > Russell. I think since the higher end guys lean in your favor, I would take it!

  67. John says:
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    Hi JB,

    my league is 12 team head to head with these stats (fg%,ft%,3ptm,pts,reb,asts,stl,blk,to,pf,dd,td)

    PG Ricky Rubio
    SG James Harden
    SF Robert Covington
    PF Blake Griffin
    C Rudy Gobert
    Uti Marc Gasol
    Uti Victor Oladipo
    Uti Gorgui Dieng
    Ben Jordan Clarkson
    Ben Markieff Morris
    Ben Dion Waiters
    Ben Thaddeus Young

    i feel like my team is strong in only points, and steals. but medicore in the rest and terrible in fg%, TO, and blks

    I would like ur opinion on my team. I kinda screwed up on my punting strategies, but let me know what u think

    Thanks a lot man

    • JB Gilpin

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      @John: Wow, weird format haha. Fouls is a cat?! I’m not versed in that category at all haha. Yeah your scoring is great, i love Blake in this format for DD. I don’t think your terrible in BLK at all. Blake and Dieng should help FG% be at least competitive. I think it’s a pretty solid team, you NEED Gasol to be healthy most of the season though. He’s the big X factor to help FG%, BLK

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        @JB Gilpin: Hey JB, so i dropped waiters and picked up ish smith. But at what point should I drop ish smith? There is a lot of good free agents on the wire now including taj, jaymichael green, jrue holiday, chriss, smart, Cody zeller, capela

        And what do you recommend I do with my team to improve it?

        Good work as usual with the rankings. First year playing here.

        Thanks

        • JB Gilpin

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          @John: Awesome move! Wowwwww, I would lose Ish for Jrue just for the upside stash. Especially in a 12er. Can’t believe he’s unowned. Still like Ish a good bit though! But you don’t have any other drops for Jrue

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            @JB Gilpin: I listened to you and got Jrue Holiday 🙂 Hopefully he is back sooner than later!!

            Would you trade Clarkson for Rudy Gay in this format?

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              @John: Cool, yup I’m cheering for him to come back too!

              Hmmm, yeah format doesn’t help one or the other too much, I think I’ll go Gay

  68. Filipino Fantasy Fanatic says:
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    Hi JB and Slim, I hope you can take a look at the team I drafted last night.

    14 team 9 cat H2H, with the 9th pick:

    9: Kawhi Leonard – damn was surprised to see him fall this far, no brainer pick. Owners ahead of me opted for CP3, Lebron and Giannis.
    20: Victor Oladipo – was targeting Millsap here but got sniped. Aldridge was another option but I didn’t want two Spurs as my first two picks. gotta go with the upside of Dipo.
    37: Brook Lopez – still on the edge about picking him in the third because of a possible trade, hope that doesn’t happen.
    48: Gorgui Dieng – was ecstatic to get him here.
    65: Nikola Jokic! – this is a good price for him, as other owners were avoiding him like the plague. Gotta take a chance at this price.
    76: Marcin Gortat – to counterbalance the risk of Jokic and Dieng, a safe pick.
    93: Gary Harris – needed 3s in the worst way, he is the best one in this range with good FG%.
    104: RHJ – a tad of a reach maybe, but picking him ensures that I will be elite in the steals category without being weak in FG% and TO.
    121: JR Smith – needed 3s, JR delivers them by the boatload.
    132: Mirza Teletovic – more 3s, I feel that I should’ve picked Winslow here instead. But it is what it is.
    149: Cody Zeller – underrated big with good %s, fits my build like a glove.
    160: Tyler Johnson – I needed a PG and missed out on Seth Curry.
    177: Andre Roberson – a hail mary pick, hope he delivers the goods with all the minutes he’s going to get.

    A crystal clear punt assist team. I missed out on studs such as Avery Bradley, Millsap but overall I think this is a decent team – I know it means nothing but my team was projected to be first in the standings. Thoughts?

    • Slim

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      @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic: Yeah Giannis went 5th overall in my RCL and I couldn’t argue with it. I like Kawhi in a punt assist team though. Oladipo works for that. BroPez keeping the percents up and 37 is a bargain. Ditto for Gorgui although 48 is probably his ceiling. That’s a good place for Jokic, I think he went 31 in my RCL and I was shaking my head. Big men look solid, gotta love that FT% with decent blocks. Gortat didn’t feel all that necessay but OK fine. Bigs dry up pretty fast. I might have opted for another steals guy… but Harris and RHJ should solidify that. I think we are really lacking in scoring at this point though. Gorgui, Jokic, Gortat, RHJ are all like 12 PPG or lower. JR was ok, Teletovic is overkill, I bet you move on from that pick pretty quickly. I would have really liked Winslow there for that sweet sweet upside… Zeller is OK, Hibbert will probably be annoying though. Tyler is great for the build. Roberson is bleh, I’d look for a scorer on the waiver. Probably your biggest need.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic: @Slim: Wow 5th for Giannis?!?!?! Still give me KAT for sure. I have CP3 and Giannis ahead of Kawhi too, 9 is right on for him to me. Agree, 37 for BroLo is a ridiculous bargain. Also yeah, Jokic is going 20-30 range in RCLs, I like the value you got him. Yeah I had the same thought – low scoring, so you’ll need to stream ThrAGNOFs. But I like the squad!

        • Filipino Fantasy Fanatic says:
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          @JB Gilpin: Yes, more scoring definitely. Looking at my wire Afflalo and Beasley are still sitting pretty there. Thoughts on those guys?

          Also a friendly suggestion, is there any way I can tag and “favorite” this post so that I won’t have to go to the second page of your site to see the comments? It would’ve been nice to see this rankings post on the top of your feed, especially on mobile. I hope there would be an option like this soon. 🙂

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic: Meh, I kinda like upside of Beasley more, but he’s not as much of a 3 shooter, I like his 0.5/0.5 STL/BLK. I’d add him over Afflalo though.

            Let me run that by our developers! You can also click on the ranks tab at the top to get to this post, but I’m not sure exactly how you’re accessing on mobile. I do everything on Web because I’m an old fart 🙂

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        @Slim: Thanks for the detailed reply Slim. I agree, I am kicking myself now for picking Teletovic over Winslow when I could’ve gotten him in the next round as well. I felt that I was really lacking in 3s and Teletovic is a shoo in for at least 2 a game because the Bucks really need his shooting.

        Looking back I also should’ve pick Jabari instead of Dieng in that range to address my scoring issues. Anyway its the first draft of the year, I still have a few more drafts upcoming.

        I’m thinking now of replacing Harkless for Roberson. He killed it during their first preseason game, signed a contract during the offseason and outplayed Evan Turner. He has shown 3s to be a new weapon in his arsenal and he also has the potential to go 1/1/1. Thoughts?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Filipino Fantasy Fanatic: Yeah Jabari would’ve been a nice fit. I might not go that high on the blocks, but I do think I’d go Roberson over Harkless, especially with the Payne injury opening up G minutes

  69. Tweak says:
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    Tried out my first fantasy basketball draft yesterday and followed your suggestions. We’ll see how this goes this year:

    Rd1/P3 – James Harden
    Rd2/P22 – Draymond Green
    Rd3/P27 – DeAndre Jordan
    Rd4/P46 – Andre Drummond
    Rd5/P51 – Tobias Harris
    Rd6/P70 – Dirk Nowitzki
    Rd7/P75 – D’Angelo Russell
    Rd8/P94 – Elfrid Payton
    Rd9/P99 – Robert Covington
    Rd10/P118 – Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
    Rd11/P123 – Justise Winslow
    Rd12/P142 – Matt Barnes
    Rd13/P147 – Emmanuel Mudiay

    I feel like I’m lacking at G, but basketball is not my forte, so I hope I’ll be alright.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Tweak: Wowwwwwwwwwwww, Drummond fell to 46?!?!?! Damn. Sucks you had to punt FT with Harden, but the value was too good. Agree your Ast are a little light, you are dominant at big man though. I might honestly shop Harden and try to turn him into two elite PG, like trade him for Wall+that team’s 2nd best PG, as long as both are good scorers too. Mudiay that late for punt FT is awesome

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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah, I couldn’t believe the Drummond pick either. I picked Jordan and went to take a leak before my next pick. By the time I got back, I was two or three picks from my turn and he just kept falling.

        Shopping Harden for PGs is not a bad idea. I’ll see what I can find with how the rest of the league shook out. I’m also all over Magic players this year, although I wasn’t able to draft all of them. They feel an awful lot like Rockies hitters in baseball (so says the guy who finished with 39 pts in his RCL).

        I’m actually hoping that Winslow steps up. In my opinion, he was the best player on the floor in every game of the NCAA tourney with Duke.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Tweak: Wow, yeah very surprising, but works for you!

          I’m a little all over the place on the Magic, love Elfrid, I like A Gordon a ton but the hype is starting to get too crazy, hate Vuc. Elfrid is staying my big one.

          Yeah I am a UNC fan, so I watch them a lot. Sooooo much better than Ingram to me. Excited to see what Winslow can go with the assured role

  70. Jeremy says:
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    I think it’s time to move embiid up inside 150, in case you missed the highlight last night. This guy got better post moves than towns from last year.

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      @Jeremy: Mehhhh, it’s one small sliver of one early preseason game. Did look great though. Obviously it’s all about the minutes. He can be a per-minute god, but I don’t see him playing enough to be must own for a long while, plus DNPs on back to backs. Simmons injury does open some PF time for Noel though, so he will get a minor boost, update to the ranks tomo!

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        @JB Gilpin:

        haha true, I might have gotten too hyped but that’s why I said top 150 not 100.
        I think his minutes will eventually go up. Porzingis was supposed to play low 20 mins his rookie season too, look what happened. The point is talent will always find its way on the court.

        Plus he’s the least likely big to get traded. His massive upside needs to warrant a pick in the top 150. Nurkic is ranked at 64 and you said that even if he only ends up with 25mpg, that rank is a win (which i disagree with). So the same should be said about embidd, who should play at least 25mins once 1 of the 3 trio is traded away.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Jeremy: Ended up getting him to 163. Last round flier for me. Welllllll, Porzingis wasn’t off back-to-back broken foots, on a terrible team, or in a crowded C rotation. With simmons hurt, the Sixers are a 10 win team again. They’re not gonna unleash him. Agree he’s least likely to be traded.

  71. Threekola says:
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    RAZZZZZZUP Jb and Slim?

    Just did a mock, 10-team 9-cat standard. I had last pick, so I’m gonna give commentary on what my thought process was after each 2. Check it out:

    Round 1, Pick 10 (10th Overall)
    Giannis Antetokounmpo Mil – PG,SG,SF

    Round 2, Pick 1 (11th Overall)
    LeBron James Cle – SF,PF

    After this combo…I knew…it was time. I had to tank something. Ft? maybe. TO maybe. But SOMETHING will be freaking tanked.

    Round 3, Pick 10 (30th Overall)
    DeAndre Jordan LAC – C

    Round 4, Pick 1 (31st Overall)
    Andre Drummond Det – PF,C

    Saw they were both available. Yahoos stupid ranks help. But yup, my first time ever drafting a ft punt. Here I go.

    Round 5, Pick 10 (50th Overall)
    Nicolas Batum Cha – SG,SF

    Round 6, Pick 1 (51st Overall)
    Goran Dragic Mia – PG,SG

    I wanted to solidify assists and I give myself some help on threes. But I wasn’t TOO worried about threes, since I know I can get some later. With these two, not only do I do that but I get Dragic who complements my build.

    Round 7, Pick 10 (70th Overall)
    Chandler Parsons Mem – SF,PF

    Round 8, Pick 1 (71st Overall)
    Jeff Teague Ind – PG

    Parsons cause FT tank and value, and Teague was purely a value pick, also another point guard doesn’t hurt.

    Round 9, Pick 10 (90th Overall)
    Robert Covington Phi – SF,PF

    Round 10, Pick 1 (91st Overall)
    Clint Capela Hou – PF,C

    I realized deandre and drummond aren’t gonna do it alone, so I decided to make a tiny reach for Capela just cause he was the best FT punt big available. I was happy with it and didn’t have any second thoughts. Covington was for some help in threes and steals, which I realized were really lacking so……….

    Round 11, Pick 10 (110th Overall)
    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope Det – SG

    Round 12, Pick 1 (111th Overall)
    Kent Bazemore Atl – SG,SF

    ….Threes and steals, BAM. Not gonna lie, Bazemore was an auto pick as I was about to panic-pick Deng, although he’s okay at this range. Went back to your ranks, saw you had him well before 111. Felt good about myself.

    Round 13, Pick 10 (130th Overall)
    Mason Plumlee Por – PF,C

    One last big to round out my squad, and the extra assists should help.

    Overall opinion:

    Succesful FT punt, with TO a litte high because of Lebron/Giannis/Batum.

    However, I do expect to win FG%, Rebounds, and Blocks 90% of the time. I love how I’m thinking like I actually drafted this team.

    Anyway, what do you think of it guys?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Threekola: Razzup my man?! Whoa. That is an unreal punt your first 4 rounds. CRUSH everything! Since you have AST too, and good scoring.

      Yeah this team is ridiculous. You get the best mid-round PG for FT punt in Dragic, Batum was a great fit, Capela late, and lovvvvvve me some Parsons for FT punt. Wish this was a $1,000 league, you’d be rich! Haha

      • Threekola says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Haha, thanks man. It looks so fun to own. I honestly thought you’d hate the TOs lol.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Threekola: Yeah TO are high, but they fluctuate so much week to week and I still don’t think you’re that awful with this roster. High TO means your team handles a lot of the ball, which I like to help block against streaks. The low TO shooters I feel like have killer up and downs, think Ariza for example haha

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            @JB Gilpin:

            Very interesting insight…makes sense.

            Correlation between less TO and streakiness means they are more 1 dimensional scorers. If their shots are off, they don’t score. We learn something everyday here at Razzball.

            Haha, I might do some more mocks, JB, are you ready?

            -Ya boy Threekola

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              @Threekola: Yeah it’s more a feel piece of advice I have rather than pure statistical knowledge, but it seems to work for the most part 🙂

              Hah for sure man, mock it up!

  72. Big Baby's Lovechild says:
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    JB, Thanks for the update!
    Slim, thanks for the top 200 projections.

  73. Lasandro says:
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    LOVING seeing @Slim putting some numbers to these ranks. A couple of quibbles/suggestions/questions:

    – I really think Lin is looking at 16ppg this season, at least. Decent mins and BLo commanding doubles should open things up for him. He gets to the line quite a bit, too.
    – If JaMychal Green is likely to match his numbers from that non-Gasol run, shouldn’t he be closer to that A Gordon range, now that his starting role is set in stone?
    – I think you can book an extra 3PM for each Ryno (absolutely!) and Starvin Marvin (at least 2+, I would think). Ryno, particularly, is the clear second cahuna on that starting lineup. Not just getting easy catch and shoots, but giving him some nice isos in the mid-post.
    – Matt Barnes’ mins and brds should be a little higher, no? Coach love and starting PT.
    – Kieff is surely gonna score about 15per, right?
    – Ish, Frazier or Bayless, as a late pick in even a shallow roto? Always loved Bayless’ underrated ability to get to the line, along with his outside scoring. I feel as tho Frazier is the trip-dub threat, and Ish is the more traditional PG, with very solid assists.

    Also, @JB Gilpin, I don’t recall you talking about the fact that Parsons is still not cleared for full contact 5 on 5s, all these months after his procedure. I know you love him, but is he an avoid in roto? I dont doubt that his per game numbers are gonna be beautiful, but between he and Gasol’s injuries, MEM is looking like a bit of a fantasy wasteland. Aside from Mikey-C.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Lasandro: Yup, Slim is about done with his projections! He’s been locked in a cabin with a chalk board ala Beautiful Mind for a while now!

      – I buy this! I would go higher than Slim did too.
      – Ehhhhh, I dunno if we see 30 MPG still. Maybe early with Gasol limited, but I think Gordon could go 34 MPG and he’s more integral
      – Ryno maybe. Marvin, ehhhhhh… I think last year was an anomaly.
      – You can tell by my rank I agree with you here! Great sleeper for me.
      – Maybe. Lots of good scoring around Kieff, around the perimeter and inside. I’d go just under.
      – Bayless, for the season-long upside. Short-term, Ish.

      Last update I see was over a week ago, and it’s still early preseason, I’m not too worried about him yet

    • Slim

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      @Lasandro:

      Lin is career 15.7 PPG per36, last year was 16.1. So if you believe he gets 36 minutes then 16 is probably right on. At 32 minutes 14 to 14.5 felt about right to me.

      My projection for JaMychal was before the news he would be starting. That was 18 minutes off the bench. With this news and ZBo likely to play some center minutes I’ll throw JaMychal at 26 minutes. Prorate accordingly… and with all the age and injury issues on this team he’s a sneaky 30+ minute guy at some point. I just hope they are serious about the uptick in 3s (nice little $1 REL keeper for me). I don’t think JaMychal has the upside either offensively or esp defensively that Gordon has.

      I think if they want Anderson to survive the season he needs to sit under 30 minutes per game. He went for 2.0 last year in 30 min and I bumbed him up to 2.4 in the same amount of min. I thought it was a big number and during the season no one is coming off him on a Harden drive. Marvin is a career .350 3pt shooter and shot .400 last year and got to 1.9 in 29 min. I don’t think the minutes go up much if at all and I think the % comes down, hence 1.7.

      Matt Barnes is too old to see big minutes. Gay would need to be traded for him to see even 30 and I don’t trust someone his age survives that. Joerger has also played 2 bigs almost exclusively in Memphis so I’m not betting on Barnes too much at the 4. Preseason game 1 he went Cousins and Koufos starting which fits what he did in Memphis. Plus Casspi is a better 4. Eh, I don’t even like the 26 min number…

      Kieff went 16.9 last year per36. At 30 min that prorates to 14.0 and they only played him 26 minutes last year. He’ll need 33ish minutes to get to 15 PPG I would imagine. Not impossible…

      All of them are worthy final picks but I don’t expect Ish to carry value past a month or so. Frazier probably a little more, but that depends on Jrue’s wife. Bayless with the most season long value I imagine but offers the fewest assists, much better as an off the ball SG.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Lasandro: @Slim: Booooo, slim had JaMychal on the block and wouldn’t trade him to me!! Wish this news was still a few weeks out and I could get Green on the cheap 🙂

        I feel like Barnes def played some 4 in Memphis. Maybe I’m misremembering, but Joerger also played bigs bc Gasol, Randolph, then Green needed run. Cmon, Koufos IS NOT starting next to Cousins in the reg season. I don’t see that.

  74. Scott says:
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    I find out you use the word love a lot when I do a search for Kevin Love.

  75. NYFantaC says:
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    Razzup..

    Thanks to you guys.. Because of your expert consulting, I have won the fantasy chip the last two years, and I’m now attempting a 3peat.

    With that in mind.. a small conundrum.
    14 Team League, H2H Most Cats, an absurd 11 cats that includes DD’s and Team Wins..

    Last year I finished with both Durant and Curry on my roster. Each year, we get to keep one player for the following season. I’ve kept Curry for the past two seasons. And have benefited greatly!

    This year, Im torn between Durant and Curry. Not sure if I should keep Curry and go for another star PG, or SF.. i know SF is slim picking.. So should I keep Durant and then pick up second tier PG w my second pick? And/Or in a league that counts DD’s, should i look for a high value center w second pick?

    Thanks for the insight..

    • JB Gilpin

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      @NYFantaC: Appreciate that man, glad we could help! Whoa, yeah team wins is an awkward one haha.

      Well, at least both will be awesome in the team wins cat! Haha. I think I’ll still take Curry. I dunno how often Durant will get more DD, and I still have Curry as my numero uno. Then I’d probably indeed hope to get a big man for DD potential and help balance out having a G first

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Awesome!.. I asked the other guys too! Thanks for the time!

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @NYFantaC: Sure thing man, drop by any time!

  76. Sander says:
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    Can someone explain Gobert 13-14 FT last game? He learned over the summer to hit free throws?

    Rank now in 20s?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Sander: Hah, yeah someone was tweeting this at me too. It’s one preseason game, I’m not adjusting just yet. I was already ahead of the pack on a bounceback too, so not liking this added hype 🙂 https://www.fantasypros.com/nba/players/rudy-gobert.php

      I think he has a pretty decent stroke though, so it could happen he could take a Whiteside jump and be 70-75%ish. But I drafted him on a FT punt team, I dunno if I want him to be better at FT%! Haha

  77. MJC says:
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    D Barksdale at 58…. How much do you bump him up in a 12 team keeper league. We keep 3 this year and 4 going into next season so I’m sure he’ll be in the draft pool this year. Does he jump top 45-50 for a keeper league?

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      @MJC: Yeah I think so. There’s alot of unknowns with Kobe gone but my bet is on Russell getting the biggest boost and being drafted top 50 in ’17-’18. Hell he went #48 in my 1st RCL and that’s redraft.

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        @Slim: oh ya I’m in that league, remember thinking it was an early pick. So what’s his realistic ceiling 20 pts 5 ast? Couple 3’s and 1.5 steals?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: @MJC: Yeah I agree, the upside is there for another big leap into next year.

          Sure, I see no issue with that kind of upside you suggest!

  78. jon says:
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    Hey dudes! I’ve got a quick one for you. There are salaries and other complications but all things being equal: would you rather Okafor or the trio of Len/Leonard/Belinelli in Keeper? (Only Len is keepable of that trio. Okafor is too.)

    I can’t decide whether it’s trading a dollar for four (3) quarters. thanks! 16-team, 8-cat with nearly 400 players owned. I’m loosely operating an AST/BLK punt

    • JB Gilpin

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      @jon: Yo what’s up?! Whewwwww that’s a toughie. Obviously like Okafor the best in the deal, but I am not huge on his game. Plus in a BLK punt, I think you can afford to lose him, which will help your FG%. I think I take the deal, but I’m a little biased in my anti-Jahlil stance

  79. dem ribbies says:
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    Hey JB!

    Can’t believe it’s almost time for hoops.

    In a 10 team H2H

    PG- CP3
    SG – Dipo
    G – Schroder
    SF – Kahwi
    PF – Draymond
    F – Milsap

    Need to draft a Center, 2 FLEX and 4 Bench

    A couple of questions:
    1) would you keep Melo, Marc Gasol or Nerlens Noel over Schroder? Kind of thinking no b/c I’m going to be punting points and need the FG/FT to stay intact b/c my other guys are low volume. Melo would wreck FG doesn’t help much in a punt-PTS build too (and has old knees), Nerlens has PT concerns and FT issues but man that 2/2 looks good, Gasol (old foot). For me it’s between Noel and Schroder. What do you think?

    2) Love my squad for STL/BLK/AST on good efficiency, I think I might also be punting 3PT too. Looking to target unkept guys in the draft like Valanciunas, Dieng, Bogut for C/flex/flex to rack up REB, chip on blocks and not hurt my ratios. Question here is, do you see any obvious problems w/ that strategy given the roster I’ve got above?

    Thx JB!!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @dem ribbies: I know man, October always sneaks up on me!

      1 – Punt Pts, interesting… Yeah Melo doesn’t fit. You get the AST from Dray and have some TO concerns with Schroder there, I kinda am feeling Noel for ya.
      2 – I never like to conciously punt more than one cat, and 3s are soooo plentiful off the wire, and you are OK there. Yeah you could def use FG% boosters. Dieng would be incredible as your first pick. I think you’ll be good!

  80. Viz

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    Great stuff as always guys. It’s been talked about a lot on the podcast so I just wanted to throw out my two cents, take it for what it’s worth, talk from a hockey guy who dabbles in basketball haha. Hopefully I get into the JB vs. Slim RCL, I’ve never done head to head basketball so what better place to start? Anyways, while I can see a world where Nurkic is the better fantasy asset than Jokic, there’s just no chance Nurk plays more minutes than him. There’s a reason why Jokic was the #1 Center in the league by RPM last season; he’s really f******* good. Nurkic can get there, but right now Jokic is clearly the better option in real life. They definitely need to play together or it’s really going to cut into both of their values.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Viz: Thanks man, hope you got the clues to hop in the league!

      Yeah I’m obviously with you. Slim’s love for Nurk and hate for Joke knows no bounds haha. They looked great together in some preseason run, so that’s a good start!

    • Slim

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      @Viz: Not sure why you think I hate Jokic JB. I think he’s a solid pick in the 50s-60s, with a bit of upside. He just doesn’t have the volume counting stats that Nurk has that’s all. My biggest beaf is with Nurkic being ranked (by most) at like 100 and Jokic being ranked at like 30. To me they are in the same tier, just a different set of stats, and Nurkic being the one with the most upside. Fantasy Pros aggregate for Jokic is 57. I think that’s about right. My issue there is with Nurkic at 116, and Faried at 110!?! That’s an effin Joke!

      I highly dissagree that Jokic is clearly the better option because when I watch the Nuggets Nurkic is clearly the more skilled player both offensively and defensively. Jokic is a solid role player, Nurkic is the type of player that becomes the face of an organization.

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        @Slim: Both of them are terrific players, and eventually that may be the case, but I would be surprised if Nurkic played over 22 minutes per game at the end of the season. Listening to Connelly and Malone with Woj, Adam Mares with Danny Leroux, there’s no indication that they feel comfortable giving Nurk big minutes right now and that Jokic is going to be getting 30+. Mares flat out said that at the end of the season he expects 20-22 mintues for Nurk. At this point in time, Jokic is clearly ahead of Nurk offensively; both of them pass well but Jokic is on an even higher level and the shooting is far more consistent. Defensively I agree Nurkic is better although it’s come with foul trouble which will also limit the minutes. I agree that even in 20 minutes, Nurkic should be much higher than 116, that’s lunacy. But 28 minutes from your projections is insane, I’d absolutely bury under 25 minutes per game if I could bet it. Maybe a friendly wager between Razzball writers?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: @Viz: You HATE Jokic Slim! Admit it! You can do it, first step is admitting you have a problem! Hah well yes, the Faried stuff and Nurk ranks are insane, I have Nurk and Joke close too, but I still think you’re discrediting what Viz said – a lot of MPG and health concerns still. Long term, Fuck yeah, gimme Nurk. If all goes as I expect, Nurk will be higher next year, but redraft, I trust Jokic’s minutes and health more.

          “Jokic is a solid role player, Nurkic is the type of player that becomes the face of an organization.”

          Key word – “becomes”. Redraft is a one year window.

          Hah 25 minutes feels about right to me. I think 23-24 to start then amp him up if all goes right to 27-28 then an April scale back.

  81. Nishinga says:
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    I’m pretty high on Dario Saric in spite the Sixers loaded front-cournt, if they could trade Noel I may even pick Saric at around 100. Could be a mini-Porzinigs.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Nishinga: Interesting, yeah if Noel is moved, Saric would go up for me too. But I don’t think he’s ever gonna be Porzingis due to the blocks.

  82. jw2 says:
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    Hello JB, congrats for 3rd year straight that Ive been following you, for ur excellent work!

    This year I’m in a Salary and Dynasty 16man league.
    Salary is based in real wages and the salary cap is at 138,4 m, and you can keep every player for max 5years keeper.
    It’s reaaaaally tough the whole wage thing.

    The draft is offline, I have 5th pick, and since now I’ve chose 1st KD 2nd Drumm 3rd Russell 4th Dieng.
    Now it’s almost my turn for the third pick and i have 82m to spend on 9 players.
    I’m thinking about LaVine or Knight (bc of their low wage) or Beal/Tobias (minus their huge wage).
    Every wage-bargain(such as Ingram, Simmons, IT, Crowder, Jabari, Booker) is gone of course.

    What’s your thoughts and how do you think i must head on til the end of the draft?
    Any player suggestions?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @jw2: Thanks man, really appreciate that! Pumped for another big season!

      Interesting… Hah Dieng was someone that came to mind, glad you nabbed him. Def like LaVine, I think he’s mad cheap. Monta Ellis is cheap a little later, George Hill. Tough to build around Drumm, but at this point I might try to salvage his FT% and/or explore trades.

  83. Matt M says:
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    Just to let you know, you have George Hill still with Indiana (I got nervous for a sec after my Teague pick).

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Matt M: Thanks for the catch! Yup I make a few mistakes a year, perils of doing this all manually. One day I hope to have a tool made for the site to do all this, would be awesome!

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        @JB Gilpin: Still do an amazing job with this. It helps me so much during my draft. I ended up doing something I try to avoid but Drummond and Jordan fell into my lap Round 3, pick 12 and Round 4, pick 1. So, obviously I’m punting FT% (makes me wish I could re-do my first pick – I ended up taking Millsap). I kept Derzon, traded for the rights to “How Does It Feel” D’Angelo Russell, the 3 mentioned above, Melo, and Teague. We’re in round 5 now….what do you think so far? Anyone/stat I should focus on? I clearly need more assists,3s and steals.

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          @Matt M: Appreciate that man! Wait a little confused. So you’re Millsap, Drum, DJ, Russell, Melo, Teague so far? Yeah guard stats for sure. Jeremy Lin, George Hill, then later I would def try and get Ish Smith for the start of the season

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            @JB Gilpin: Yes, I realized I made that more confusing than it needed to be. I kept Derozan for a 5th round pick and traded for Russell (he was kept for a 7th round). I picked Millsap (2nd round – traded down), Melo (another 2nd rd pick), Drummond (Rd 3), Jordan (Rd 4), and Teague (Rd 5). I’m eyeing Ish for sure (and Bayless). Hopefully Collison falls. Appreciate the feedback.

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              @Matt M: Hah all good! Yup all those guys sound perfect, Collison for your next pick probably works. Any time man!

  84. I am the Walrus says:
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    What is a diffence is strategy H2H vs roto?
    Please comment on this H2H strategy:
    1-I shy away from all SA players- obvious reasons here.
    2-I don’t try to win %. Just try to be somewhere in the middle. Winning percentages seems too wonky in weekly H2H leagues. Too many times I’ve finished with the best yearly overall FG% and ended up .500 in weekly wins.
    3-Shy away from old players. Same as #1. Rest late in the yr when you need them most. So I’m not drafting Lebron or Pau unless they drops big time.
    4-When drafting remember I can weekly stream 3’s and RB. It’s much harder to stream %’s, Stl, Ast and blks.
    5-In your opinion, what else????

    • JB Gilpin

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      @I am the Walrus: H2H, you want targeted stat-stuffers, Roto more the all around guys that can contribute with low TO.
      1 – Sure, but if everyone thinks that, sometimes values can be had. Haven’t drafted any in redraft yet though…
      2 – The only time I overly worry about FG% is if I’m punting FT and fill out with too many shooters. FT% is either a punt or you try to be OK…
      3 – Yup for sure! LeBron outside my top 10 is lower than most.
      4 – Yup, ThrAGNOF! Threes ain’t got no face! Meaning you can stream them easily, term I use a lot.
      5 – I don’t overtly “look” for TO, but having a lot of guards or point-Fs that get a lot of TO usually means they have the ball in their hands a lot. Helps to prevent from streaks if you had a low TO team. Those teams usually rely on a lot of shooting or fluky D stats. It’s better for Roto since over a month it evens out, but in H2H, bad swings of slumps can hurt you a lot worse

  85. Jason says:
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    Which players do you think are the best bargains based on Yahoo ranks? and… are we gonna be getting a FT-punt article soon (my draft is in like a week) (if not, could you just list some of your early and mid-round targets to build a ft punt?) Lastly, how are you gonna rank mcconnell now that he has that starting gig with bayless likely out too?

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      @Jason: Let’s see, Nurkic, Wall, the FT punt goes if you do go that route (DJ, Drum, Gobert to a lesser extent), Lin, Elfrid, Schroder for some ideas. Not sure if I’ll be doing one, but maybe someone on the staff can! Those guys I mention are your obvious C, the big 2 to couple with them are Parsons and Dragic for me. Dragic = nice FG% with AST stats. Parsons hits 3s while keeping FG% usable too. Right now Bayless is at “might” miss some time, so we’ll see. McConnell will make my ranks next update, but still pretty low. 170ish best guess?

  86. Paul says:
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    What about Maurice Harkless? Could play 24-26 Min. maybe. Could maybe even start.

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      @Paul: Yeah I agree Harkless is a solid top 200 guy. Unfortunately those minutes probably aren’t quite enough to be 12er worthy. Just like with Crabbe and Evan Turner. But if one of them goes down…

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        @Paul: @Slim: Hmmm interesting. I always hated his jumper, although the Blazers say he fixed it this offseason. I guess in those minutes he would crack the ranks, but barely, I still think they wanna play Aminu and keep giving Vonleh a little run… Plus they wanna play Meyers Leonard some too. I think it’s more crowded than it seems

  87. Threekola says:
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    Which of these two teams would you guys rather have in a 9-cat standard 12-er? How would you guys assess them individually? Anyone is open to answer this, want all your opinions!

    Team 1:

    John Wall
    Demar Derozan
    Jeff Teague
    Kevin Durant
    Draymond Green
    Nikola Mirotic
    Robin Lopez
    Bismack Biyombo
    Rajon Rondo
    Monta Ellis
    Ben Simmons
    Joel Embiid
    Brandon Ingram

    Team 2:

    Kyle Lowry
    Evan Fournier
    Darren Collison
    Chandler Parsons
    Justise Winslow
    Joakim Noah
    Hassan Whiteside
    Brook Lopez
    Rudy Gobert
    George Hill
    Kentavius Caldwell-Pope
    Elfrid Payton
    Matt Barnes

    Thanks guys

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Threekola: Team 1 heavy on G stats, team 2 on the bigs. I think I like team 1’s stars better, but team 2 a little better overall. You know I love me some Elfrid 🙂

  88. Michael says:
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    Got a question for you gents.
    In a 9-cat H2H league where our 9th category is in fact double-doubles and not turnovers.
    How does this affect your views on Russ and Harden? Is Russ the standout number 1 pick with his DD threat and the fact that turnovers are no reason for concern.

    Do you see this situation improving any other players draft position. Eg. Boogie Cousins.

    Cheers blokes

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      @Michael: Hmmm interesting. Ya know I kinda like that format, it both helps guards and helps bigs. I might not say “standout” but yes, I would change my ranks to Westbrook, Harden, Curry 1-2-3. Definitely helps Cousins! Takes out his awful TO and rewards his DD, might push him to like 12ish. Noel gets a boost. Any of the TO prone bigs. Jahlil Okafor I would like a lot more.

  89. Blue says:
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    Hey, JB! Great rankings! What do you think about drafting two pg in the first two rounds? Maybe 2 of Wall, Lowry and Lillard? I think bigs like DJ, Drum, Dieng, Gasols, Nerlens will be available for my 3rd pick. Might I fall too behind in Reb, Blk stats?

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      @Blue: Hey man! Really appreciate ya dropping by! Obviously depends on your spot, but if you’re pick 12 and Whiteside got picked, I’m all for that! Probably more apt for Wall and Lillard as a pairing to get 3s and high scoring.

  90. hassan_blackside says:
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    for roto i will be selecting 2nd pick 14 team 9 cats durant or harden? if ever whos ur top 10 for roto? Thanks in advance jb and slim

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      @hassan_blackside: I’ll take Durant there. Harden’s TOs are going to get crazy out of hand and the FG% has to be made up for. In Roto I think it goes, Curry, Durant, Harden, Westbrook, KAT, and KAT is much close to those 2 than he is in H2H.

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        @hassan_blackside: @Slim: Yeah in Roto, I will take Durant #2 as well. Hate to be bogged down by the TO. I might even go KAT over Westbrook TBH

  91. TeeVee says:
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    Hi! My first time to comment here, but I love your ranks and have been following them for years.

    I have an offline draft and would just like to ask about how you think I should build my team. It’s H2H, 8Cat (first time to not do 9cat), 12 teams, and I got the last pick so I decided to punt FG% and go Lillard + Cousins (I know you hate Cousins hahaha). Literally have no idea who to target/what categories to target in the upcoming 3 rd (last) and 4th (first) picks. Which players do you recommend getting? So big picture–ideally which categories should my team build be strong in? Also with this combo, is FT% still salvageable or should I look to punt that as well? Now kinda regret picking Cousins over Whiteside hahaha!

    Regarding the ranks, I feel like Paul George is way too low. He’s been (rightly) going in the first round this year and is a solid building block for teams! For example, Paul George + Kyle Lowry should be a formidable 1-2 punch whether in 8cat or 9cat.

    On a side note, how do you feel about the stigma about Spurs players being rested during fantasy playoffs? I’m not exactly sure how many games Spurs players miss during fantasy playoffs, I think Kawhi missed just 1 last year, but perhaps relative to other stars it may not be so bad? Do you think that could make Kawhi, LaMarcus, Pau Gasol slip in the draft and become good grabs if they come to your pick?

    Thanks for everything you guys have done man. Really helped over the years. Cheers!

    • Slim

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      @TeeVee: Without TOs Cousins goes up quite a bit. I’m good with that pick although I probably still go Whiteside. FT% is definitely still winable but I’d be looking for another big with at least 1.5 blocks per game at that #36 spot. FG% I think is a bigger issue and if you were to punt one I’d punt that one, but you don’t NEED to.

      For now I’d look to go Big/PG and focus on all the counting stats, with less of a concern on 3s and points and more of a concern on steals and blocks.

      I’m not big on George but yeah he’s better without TOs. That Lowry/George combo is absolutely a punt FG% team. It has no blocks and assists aren’t all that great compared to other combos, hell Wall has as many assists and blocks as both combined. Yeah it’s high end 3s but that’s the easiest cat to make up for later in the draft. But this is why I don’t draft wings that early. I nearly excclusively go PG/big with guys like Giannis/LeBron counted as a PG due to the assists.

      Going into a draft I assume I’m going to make the playoffs and then make decisions based off that, so yeah the old Spurs, Gasol and Aldridge, become extremely high risk options to me. I’m not touching either, I don’t care where they fall. Kawhi I’m less worried about DNP-rest as I am about how he misses 10+ games every year. So comparing Kawhi to other 1st rounders like Giannis (sans Middleton) or KAT really isn’t a comparison for me, but he still makes the end of the 1st round pretty easily.

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        @Slim: Hey Slim, thanks for these insights. Looks like I’ll stay away from the Spurs as well, and George should stay in the 2nd round. Lots of people reaching haha.

        Just a follow-up question. You said to go Big/PG with my subsequent picks (with the Lillard+Cousins team) so when do I start looking to fill the SF spot? What rounds, how late exactly, would be great to start filling that out?

        For example in my draft Melo was taken so my plan to get him with the last pick of the 3rd fell apart quickly. I’ll probably get a guard (with steals), if any, then I was thinking Gobert as the first pick of the 4th round, is that too much of a reach? I think he could complement the team build well but I’m not 100% sure. He does have the 1.5 blocks you recommended, and I think can take the lack of points for now. Also those pre-season free-throws. I think I’m convinced (I was a Lowry owner last year, so I make sure to follow the pre-season).

        Thanks for your insight man! It’s all great stuff.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: @TeeVee: Welcome to the comments, man, thanks for dropping by and appreciate ya following us! 8cat – I’m OK with Cousins there 🙂 Yeah I’m with Slim, no NEED to punt anything yet. Everything is usable with that combo, and I like to have the punts come to me rather than seek them out in snakes. And I like the big/PG combo too, be sexy if Porzingis lasted, then you could legit punt FG and take like Isaiah Thomas too. As for SF later, it just depends on when value is there, it’s impossible to give a range without knowing who will be on the board. Sure Gobert that late would be a great value too!

          Agree with Slim re: PG13. I love his game, but in H2H he’s only a stat stuffer in 3s/Pts really, and in Roto FG% and TO hurt you. He just isn’t the kind of fantasy player that is a top-10 for me.

          Spurs – only thing to add here is that EVERYBODY has this opinion, so I still think there’s value in Aldridge in the l;ate 3rd/early 4th and Gasol in 4/5 if they last.

          • TeeVee says:
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            @JB Gilpin: @Slim: Hey guys thanks for all this–really helped my understanding of the draft. The big/pg combo looks solid but I have a problem: in my slow draft, all the 3rd round guards are gone (Walker, Oladipo, Thomas) and the next best guards are freakin Rubio, Dragic, Conley, Schroeder, Teague, Payton. Obviously they’re a reach for the last pick of the 3rd round. You guys weren’t kidding about that being a problem, and I felt it would be a problem too as I was impossibly hoping one of those 3rd round guards would fall to me. Guards value went up especially since its 8cat (my first time to do 8cat) but I feel like this is a problem too for 9cat since I don’t expect Walker, Oladipo, or Thomas to last till the end of the 3rd round regardless.

            Drafting for a second PG at the spot of the last pick of a 12-teamer feels really hard.

            What do you think I should do in this scenario for my back-to-back picks (pretty sure this problem happens to all players picking 12th in a 12-teamer). Go for the pg reach or nah? Kinda envious of those that took two guards with their first two picks hahaha!

            Definitely want to focus on shoring up steals and blocks too as you guys pointed out.

            The bigs left are the likes of LMA, Gobert, Dieng, Love, Ibaka, P. Gasol, but I’m guessing guards are the bigger issue right now? Not sure.

            I guess there are wings too but they are a reach too: Batum, Hayward, Parsons, Crowder.

            In a really tough spot here hahaha!

        • Slim

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          @TeeVee: Good. Melo isnt what you’re looking for. You have lots of points. Love the Golbert pick at 36. So a PG or if a great wing fell to me. And i would need 4+ assists from that wing. Probably not going to happen at #36 so yeah a PG is ideal but ive been here and its a tough spot to draft from. #60 is even worse for a PG but maybe you’ll get luckier than me. Schroder for instance was gone in my 12er at 60 and Thomas was gone at 36.

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            @Slim: Thanks for the heads up that #60 is even worst than #36 for PGs. Looks like theres that urgency to get that 2nd PG now, but all the good third round guards are gone: Walker, Oladipo, Thomas. The rest are pretty far in value as the last pick in the 3rd round: Rubio, Dragic, Schroeder, etc. Darn! I might just be in a pickle hahaha!

        • Slim

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          @TeeVee: When to get a SF for me is draft dependant. A good one has to fall and give me what i need. So like in my last RCL i went Wall, Whiteside at 12, 13. Then Favors at 36, and Hayward at 37. This was before the injury though and PGs were crushed. Also i feel like Hayward is a 4+ assist potential wing. 60, 61 I went Parsons for the assist upside plus I felt weak on 3s, and Fournier for the upside and basically the same. And decent FG% from both to offset Wall and Hayward. But like I said PGs were gone at 60, 61 too.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @TeeVee: @Slim: Yeah I am liking Gobert as well, although obviously not perfect for punt FG. Rubio is def interesting still for me. Mannnn, it would be a reach, but Schroder and Rubio both will have bad FG and 8cat helps them immensely. I kinda like that route.

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              @JB Gilpin: @Slim: My pick was due a few hours ago and I did go for Gobert and Rubio. Kinda feel terrible that I had to reach that much for Rubio at freakin first pick of the 4th round, but I think he should be a good fit as my PG2. I now have a day or so to think about my next two picks hahaha.

              The team build for this one looks like its more focused on counting stats then.

              Thanks for your help! I’ll definitely ask for a team rate here when I get the other picks.

              • JB Gilpin

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                @TeeVee: Nice! Yeah it sucks having to reach, but in 8cat, I think that’s about where I’d have him. Always a bumrush on guards in 8cat! Cool, yeah let us know as the draft goes on!

  92. Greggy says:
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    Wait where’s Seth Curry? I thought he would for sure be somewhere here after Cuban talking him up so much =0

    • Slim

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      @Greggy: I just don’t see the minutes being there. Wesley plays a bunch and as long as Deron is healthy he’s going to get his 30 min. I think Anderson plays more than Seth and Seth also has to pass Barea and Devin Harris on the depth chart. I’ll take the under in 20 minutes per game and I think it will probably take multiple injuries for him to top that number.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Greggy: @Slim: Yeah very meh. Cuban loves to talk up ALL his guys haha. Backup guard who only scores and shoots threes… meh. And yeah, Barea and Harris are still gonna play as they always do… Reminds me of John Jenkins being a preseason sleeper last year, that ended up doing nada haha

  93. Eddie Rooskie says:
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    It’s the most wonderful time of the year! *cue Christmas bells*

    After taking a nice well deserved hiatus from Razzball and NBA fantasy in general (have gray hairs now thanks to last season), the long awaited draft is finally over.

    I went in with a plan and as usual it just seemed to fall apart but for some reason I’m very happy with the outcome. There were a lot of people reaching for guys and I just saw opportunities I couldn’t pass on.

    Could you bless me with a quick commentary on how you feel about this team? I know I have a few deficiencies here but I’d just like an outside opinion before I begin my trade proposals.

    Round 1 (10) Chris Paul
    Round 2 (15) Kyle Lowry
    Round 3 (34) Pau Gasol
    Round 4 (39) Carmelo Anthony
    Round 5 (58) Goran Dragic
    Round 6 (63) Myles Turner
    Round 7 (82) Jae Crowder
    Round 8 (87) Tobias Harris
    Round 9 (106) Jusuf Nurkic
    Round 10 (111) Robert Covington
    Round 11 (130) Luol Deng
    Round 12 (135) Matt Barnes
    Round 13 (154) Gary Harris

    • TeeVee says:
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      @Eddie Rooskie: Picks 5-8 look like highway robbery.

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      @Eddie Rooskie: I’m not sure what was your initial draft plan, but that’s a very good team ! IMO no need to trade anybody, that’s a 1st place team in a lot of leagues and i assume the competition is not that great if you got Tobias at 87 :). If you want to dominate, trade one of your 4 wings for a center. All the best !

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        @Eddie Rooskie: @TeeVee: @Dragos:

        Definiteky like the team (Nurkic past 100, kill me), but I think you need a PG4 and a C4.

        You have 7 wings, you can probably afford losing two. Or you can ignore me and my OCD. Up to you. Goodluck this year though!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Eddie Rooskie: @TeeVee: @Dragos: @Threekola: Hah yeah Christmas came on the Nurk pick! But yeah as TeeVee said, picks 5-8 where steals.

          I think big man stats is the biggest need. You have great wings though, so I think your REB are OK, just could use a few more swats. Def like this team a ton! Welcome back to hoops!

          • Eddie Rooskie says:
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            @JB Gilpin: I’ll have to agree with you on the big man stats. Maybe package Melo and someone for the zinger?

            Its great to be back and I’m really looking forward to all the pods and posts of Razzball!

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              @Eddie Rooskie: Ohhhhh would love that deal for some Poison Goose! I think you have enough scoring too, to take that hit in Pts. Appreciate that man, can’t wait for the season!

      • Eddie Rooskie says:
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        @JB Gilpin: @Dragos: With the 10th pick I was already gearing up for a PG13/Cousins FG/TO punt team but Lebron and Cousins both went before me so I had to snap CP3 at #10. From there I just decided to snag the best talent and see what I was left with.

        I just kept crossing my fingers before every pick and I guess it worked because #7-#9 were exactly what I wanted and got them so late in the draft.

        Definitely gonna see what I can get from Melo/Crowder/Covington and go from there. Thanks mate!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Eddie Rooskie: Yeah man, those picks were great steals! I like that Crowder value a ton, but def don’t mind shopping whichever one starts hottest once the season starts 🙂

  94. Big Red says:
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    I’m in a dynasty league and have an opportunity to get Simmons, Ingram or A Gordon in my upcoming draft. They all have somewhat unclear roles/pt this season, but who do you reckon will be the guy to own next season or the season after next?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Big Red: Definitely taking Aaron Gordon. He’s still mad young, has a starting role/is healthy now, and I think he’ll be the guy drafted first of the 3 the next 2-3 years for sure

  95. Dragos says:
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    Hello Razzball nation ! Just got my yahoo winner league draft ROTO / 9 CAT / 12 TEAMS (6th pick). Here are the results, with some comments:
    Round 1, Pick 6 (6th Overall) Karl-Anthony Towns Min – C (had the chance to take Leonard at 6, but i just could not pass on an elite C)
    Round 2, Pick 7 (19th Overall) Kyle Lowry Tor – PG (i always try to get 2 centers and 2 PG’s in my first 4 rounds and build from there, usually i’m not FT punting)
    Round 3, Pick 6 (30th Overall) Isaiah Thomas Bos – PG (got Thomas over Bledsoe, because of TO and injury issues on Bledsoe)
    Round 4, Pick 7 (43rd Overall) Gorgui Dieng Min – PF,C (took Dieng over Turner, tough decision, but Turner is now too high on yahoo rankings to be a steal…)
    Round 5, Pick 6 (54th Overall) Marc Gasol Mem – C (high risk-high reward, i hope.. could have gotten Gortat, a safer pick)
    Round 6, Pick 7 (67th Overall) Enes Kanter OKC – C (had to reach for Kanter at this point, i know it’s the preseason, but his numbers are impressive, plus, the good Centers got snatched early..)
    Round 7, Pick 6 (78th Overall) Dennis Schroder Atl – PG (hope he won’t get over 3 TO/game…)
    Round 8, Pick 7 (91st Overall) Robert Covington Phi – SF,PF (rounds 8-10 i usually get my wing players, big pool to chose from, i needed some 3s, got Covington over Reddik for the extra defensive stats )
    Round 9, Pick 6 (102nd Overall) Kent Bazemore Atl – SG,SF (very solid wing, he’ll be even better than last season)
    Round 10, Pick 7 (115th Overall) Luol Deng LAL – SF,PF (115th, I’ll take it)
    Round 11, Pick 6 (126th Overall) Kentavious Caldwell-Pope Det – SG (big surprise to last this far, i’ll start him instead of Deng at least until Jackson returns)
    Round 12, Pick 7 (139th Overall) Al Jefferson Ind – PF,C (he’s fine as a backup C, could have taken Noah, but i like Jefferson for the FG% boost)
    Round 13, Pick 6 (150th Overall) Matt Barnes Sac – SG,SF (still overlooked, should be part of most benches in Fantasy basketball)
    I’m weak at FG%, i hope the wings will help with some extra BLK/REBS, i’m not great there either.

    If you guys had the patience to read this far, feel free to comment! All the best !

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Dragos: Whoa, yeah I love KAT falling to 5! I think you did a great job getting low TO guys, so I think Schroder will be OK. Yup Fg% is a tough, tough category for this team. Covington did no favors 🙂 So if one of you shooters starts mad hot, might shop for a big. Other than that, really like the rest of your stats! If Gasol can stay healthy, that would be hugggge for this team

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks for the comments, i was also thinking to shop Covington during one of his hot streaks 🙂 I might regret not getting M. Turner over Dieng in the 4th, but i thought even with high upside in BLKS, he wont be top 40 material yet, while Dieng proved he can produce top 40 stats. All the best !

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Dragos: I still have Dieng a bit higher as well, so I think you made the right call. Turner def has sexier upside, but I love Dieng’s all around upside

  96. Michael says:
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    Hey JB!

    I’m in a 14-team 9-cat H2H league. Appreciate any feedback you have for my team! Thanks man

    1. (10) Anthony Davis (NO – PF,C)
    2. (19) John Wall (Was – PG)
    3. (38) Eric Bledsoe (Pho – PG,SG)
    4. (47) Andre Drummond (Det – PF,C)
    5. (66) Jae Crowder (Bos – SF,PF)
    6. (75) Dwyane Wade (Chi – PG,SG)
    7. (94) George Hill (Uta – PG,SG)
    8. (103) Kent Bazemore (Atl – SG,SF)
    9. (122) Mason Plumlee (Por – PF,C)
    10. (131) Jahlil Okafor (Phi – C)
    11. (150) Evan Turner (Por – SG,SF)
    12. (159) Matt Barnes (Sac – SG,SF)
    13. (178) Josh Richardson (Mia – SG,SF)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Michael: Damnnnnnnnnnn, Brow fell to 10?!?!? Love the Wall combo. You got some crazy value here, your top 5 is likely best in the league. Drummond is tough though, I see you got some punt FT guys to go with him, just sucks you had to do it with Brow as your first pick. Your TO are probably a tad high too, but other than those things, I like it!

  97. Larry says:
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    Hey Razzball,

    Just finished drafting and I think I screwed up in my bigs. Here’s my team:
    Harden, Bledsoe, Gobert, Noel, Fournier, Payton, Carroll, M. Barnes, Marcus Morris, MKG
    Was going for punt TO and maybe FG but I think my FT is quite bad as well. Kind of hoping on the news of Gobert shooting well from the line. Forgot that Payton and Noel also hurt FT.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Larry: Well, if Gobert hitting 13-14 FT like he did in preseason is a positive indication for you, you might be OK! Helps to have Harden carrying the torch for you too. Yeah Noel and Payton hurt, luckily Payton is fairly low volume. I don’t think I’d do anything urgently, just see how FT comes together the first few weeks

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks! Currently thinking of grabbing one of Jerami Grant, JaMychal, or J. Richardson for Marcus. Thinking of Jerami for the blocks, but Green would have better FT. What do you think? Thank you

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          @Larry: Whewwww they’re all SOOOOOO close! Man Grant looks awesome, just talked him up on the Pod whichll be out early tomo. I think it’s JaMychal though for the assured role outta the gate

  98. Glenn says:
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    Keeper league, head to head format with just Pts, Reb, Ast, Blk,& Steals.
    Can only keep 4, with Durant and Aldridge as no brainers. Who’s the odd player out from the last 3?

    Durant
    Aldridge

    Vucevic
    DeRozan
    Lowry

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Glenn: Interesting, the popcorn stats format 🙂 Def keeping Lowry. DeRozan vs. Vuc uggghhhh. I’ll lean Vuc as your keeper since your scoring looks good, and you could use more Reb/BLK building blocks.

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        @JB Gilpin: I love popcorn!!! @slim: more projections soon?

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          @Glenn: Hah who doesn’t?! Yup I’m trying to get Slim to wrap these up soon 🙂

          • Slim

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            @JB Gilpin: Alright I’ll put in some hours today. Weather is too nice though so tomorrow is going to be a long day at the golf course. Maybe my 1st time playing 36 in a day. Man golf would be expensive if I didn’t know all these golf pros.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Slim: @Glenn: @Slim: Thanks Slim! 36 holes in a day, jfc you’re a gold addict! We need hoops info!

  99. Mark says:
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    Hey! First comment on here but have been on the site for a long time.
    Just did a 10 team, H2H, 9Cat draft, and i’m looking for some advice on my team.
    1. (9) Karl-Anthony Towns (Min – C)
    2. (12) Hassan Whiteside (Mia – C)
    3. (29) Kyle Lowry (Tor – PG)
    4. (32) Isaiah Thomas (Bos – PG)
    5. (49) Eric Bledsoe (Pho – PG,SG)
    6. (52) Jae Crowder (Bos – SF,PF)
    7. (69) Marcin Gortat (Was – C)
    8. (72) Chandler Parsons (Mem – SF,PF)
    9. (89) Danilo Gallinari (Den – SF)
    10. (92) Dennis Schroder (Atl – PG)
    11. (109) Clint Capela (Hou – PF,C) ( Dropped him for Jusuf Nurkic )
    12. (112) George Hill (Uta – PG,SG) ( Traded him for Gorgui Dieng )
    13. (129) Jeremy Lin (Bkn – PG,SG)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Mark: Appreciate ya reading us, welcome to the comments! Whoaaaaa, awesome moves for bigs! Nurk went undrafted?!?! Yikes haha. Yeah this team is ridiculous, you kill the big man stats, got enough G to flank it, I don’t think your TO are too bad… This is a great team!

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        @JB Gilpin: Hey thanks for the feedback, i’ve completed a couple trades and I would love some more feedback.
        I traded my Lowry for Oladipo and Brook lopez, then I traded nurkic and gortat for Hayward.
        New team:
        Bledsoe
        Oladipo
        Thomas
        Crowder
        Parsons
        Gallinari
        Towns
        Whiteside
        Dieng
        Brook Lopez
        Schroder
        Lin
        and Hayward in the IL.
        Also, should I be looking to trade gallinari/parsons due to injury risks?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Mark: Geez, active league! The Dipo deal is absolutely ridiculous. That’s amazing value. The Hayward one I’m iffier on, I really like Nurk and think Gortat is a little underrated. That said, you def had an abundance of bigs haha so it’s good. Your team is awesome. Well def not trading Parsons right now, if someone would give nice value for Gallo it would be OK, but I think we let some of the season roll and hope he starts hot before shopping

          • Mark says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Thanks for the feedback !
            I ended up drafting again in another 10 team H2H 9cat.
            1. (10) Kawhi Leonard (SA – SG,SF)
            2. (11) Anthony Davis (NO – PF,C)
            3. (30) Kristaps Porzingis (NY – PF,C)
            4. (31) DeAndre Jordan (LAC – C)
            5. (50) Goran Dragic (Mia – PG,SG)
            6. (51) Ricky Rubio (Min – PG)
            7. (70) D’Angelo Russell (LAL – PG)
            8. (71) Evan Fournier (Orl – SG,SF)
            9. (90) Clint Capela (Hou – PF,C)
            10. (91) Rodney Hood (Uta – SG,SF)
            11. (110) Elfrid Payton (Orl – PG)
            12. (111) DeMarre Carroll (Tor – SF,PF)
            13. (130) Terrence Jones (NO – SF,PF)
            Noel and Middle on the IR.
            Would love some advice

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Mark: Man, 100 for Elfrid. I don’t get the hate on him this year… Ummmm, I don’t love Capela at 90, I kinda wish you had avoided the FT punt guys. The start you had 1-3 was too strong there. I might shop them to a FT punt team and see if they have a better balanced big to get back

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                @JB Gilpin: Thanks for the advice !
                I have no idea what to build my team around and what i’m punting. I’m looking to trade DJ and capela of course, but what is the rest of my team strong and weak in? What should I be looking to improve and who to go after?

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                  @Mark: Well you still need big man stats, but you don’t to go after blocks explicitly. I would go for more well-rounded bigs, maybe the Horford owner FT punted and would take DJ and Capela?

  100. Threekola says:
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    JB! SLIM! I have finally drafted my first team this year, and am glad to say I have been with you guys for a full year, and am also looing forward to as many more as possible. Thanks to you guys’ detailed replies, podcasts, ranks, updates, etc., I am the defending champ going into this year. #RazzBallNationBaby

    You guys mind taking a look at my team? It’s a 12 team 9-cat H2H standard with the 9 cats you guys use for ranks. Had the 3rd pick.

    1. (3) Russell Westbrook PG
    2. (22) Kemba Walker PG
    3. (27) Al Horford PF,C
    4. (46) Pau Gasol PF,C
    5. (51) Chandler Parsons SF,PF
    6. (70) Nerlens Noel PF,C
    7. (75) Jusuf Nurkic C
    8. (94) Darren Collison PG
    9. (99) Monta Ellis PG,SG
    10. (118) Justise Winslow SF,PF
    11. (123) Evan Turner SG,SF
    12. (142) Terrence Jones SF,PF
    13. (147) Courtney Lee SG,SF

    Notable FA’s:
    -Khris Middleton
    -Patrick Beverly
    -Ish Smith
    -Al Jefferson
    -Taj Gibson

    Okay, so second pick Wall was available but I chickened out. Decided to go with a safer pick and to NOT tank TO. Horford seemed right for that too. Pau was a tough pick because of all the DNPs coming, but hopefully Slim’s projections hold true. From there, things got tricky. After my first two, 4 of my next 5 picks were bigs, and all except Pau were just because I couldn’t pass up the value. I am not entirely sure why I went for Pau, but I’m okay with it.

    I don’t really HATE any of my picks individually, I actually like em all. Just not too fond of Evan Turner and Courtney Lee. I don’t really need Turner’s assists, I have good out of position assists already, but I DID need Lee for threes.

    But I feel like I’m still lacking in points and threes as far as counting stats. How do you guys feel about how my draft went and my builds weaknesses/strengths/needs?

    Also, anyone from those waivers worth taking? Is it not worth dropping Lee/Turner for Beverley for my team? I’d take Ish but I’m not sure he fits in well. We have 2 IL spots so shouldn’t I take Middleton and drop Lee or Turner just to stash him? Or maybe be safe and drop Jones for Taj or Big Al?

    Thanks guys, and sorry for all the questions. Just excited =D

    -ya boy Threekola

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Threekola: Razzball Nation fa life! Appreciate ya checking all our stuff out! Yup, I like that strategy for Kemba! You need 3s too. Yeah agree, AST wasn’t a huge need, but give me Ish over Lee for sure, and you can try to trade some value.

      Even with Westbrook, I actually think you might be a smidge light on scoring and you’ll def be ThrAGNOFfing! Need some streamer 3s. But with those stats added as you go I think you’ll be OK!

      • Threekola says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Just dropped lee for Smith, so threes went even more down and need for assists dropped even more. Now Turner is basically dead weight. I wanna try to trade him and get Buddy if I can. How does that sound?

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          @Threekola: nice move! And sure, I have Buddy ranked right in the same range, I think he fits ya 🙂

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          @Threekola: That’s kind of funny. I think you didn’t lose any 3s. Ish was 0.92 in 32 min with the sixers and Lee was at 1.04 across both teams in 30 min. This is an easy one for me and I don’t think Courtney Lee is even ownable in 12ers. At best he’s a late in the week streamer when TOs are close.

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            @Threekola: @Slim: With KCP/Harris/Morris/StanJo around him, I think Ish takes a TONNNNNN less 3s, if many at all. Sure I def like Ish too but I think his 3s go way down

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              @Slim: @JB Gilpin:

              Hello Slim. Guys, guys…I can care less about Ish’s threes. Haha.

              Thanks for the help JB and the optimism Slim. Also Slim, if you’re still looking at this what do you think about my team? I see assists and steals as an excess and scoring and points as a need, while at least maintaining fg% cause one more low guy will be getting to the punt range….

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                JB Gilpin says:
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                @Jimmy: Hahahaha, we wouldn’t be Razzball if we didn’t get into the most minutia of debates haha.

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                @Jimmy: The team covers all the bases, do they have bases in basketball? At least 4 PGs (Monta), 4 centers… That Collison pick was an absolute steal. Probably going to need to stream 3s which is fine. Steals look strong, blocks are OK, boards are fine, assists are great, points aren’t amazing but that can be made up for with a solid waiver add, the 3s too really. I like the FT%, but FG% is a bit concerning. Westbrook, Kemba is about 42-43% on massive attempts. That Collison pick is just so helpful. It pains me to say it but this 8 game suspension is the best thing that happened for our purposes.

  101. Threekola says:
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    Nevermind about Middleton haha, thought he was gonna be back December. That sucks.

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      @Threekola: Yeah he’s out for likely the season… Was a big bummer 🙁

  102. Nicksk says:
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    hi guys, would love your thoughts on my first draft for the season, 9 cat roto, snake draft with flipped order in round 3, got the first pick:

    steph
    horford
    jokic
    isiah thomas
    valanciunas
    schroder
    otto porter
    rudy gay
    danny green
    rondae hollis-jefferson
    mirotic
    elfrid
    mozgov

    cheers!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Nicksk: Interesting team, Jokic early makes sense with a scorer like Steph! Def feel like your REB/BLK are a little light. Good scoring, 3s, AST, TO and %s though. I might look to sell high maybe Porter or RHJ or Mirotic and hope to get a big. Cheers!

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      @Nicksk:
      This was an in-person draft? How do you flip for third round?

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        JB Gilpin says:
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        @james: @Nicksk: In Yahoo you can fully customize the snake pick by pick, likely just had the standard snake then manually flipped all the picks that round

  103. Hokuto says:
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    Hey JB !
    I just finished drafting, I’m in a 16-team 9-cat H2H standard league.
    Had the 1st pick and this is my team:

    1 Westbrook
    32 Porzingis
    33 Gobert
    64 Devin Booker
    66 Dieng
    96 Buddy Hield
    97 Marvin Williams
    128 Nurkic
    129 Markieff Morris
    160 McDermott (traded for Tim Frazier)
    161 Crabbe
    192 Wade Baldwin IV
    193 Dragan Bender (dropped for T.J. Warren)

    Notable FA’s:

    Dwight Powell
    E’Twaun Moore
    KJ McDaniels
    Domantas Sabonis
    Brandan Wright
    Norman Powell
    Marquese Chriss
    Archie Goodwin
    Hollis Thompson
    Kelly Oubre

    Is there any player from dropping for a FA?

    Thanks !!!
    Cheers!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Hokuto: Man, that’s a steal of a deal for Frazier! Haha. Dieng and Nurk were steals haha. Guy I like in FA is Powell. I think I’d nab him over Baldwin. Good luck this yr!

  104. SF says:
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    just finished my draft in my 14-team H2H league, ended up with the following (I was the 10th pick)

    1. Hassan Whiteside
    2. Kemba Walker
    3. Brook Lopez
    4. Gorgui Dieng
    5. Brandon Knight
    6. Zach Lavine
    7. Wesley Matthews
    8. Danilo Gallinari
    9. Luol Deng
    10. Mason Plumlee
    11. JaMychal Green
    12. Mirza Teletovic
    13. Solomon Hill

    wanted to try maybe a punt FT build after the Whiteside 1st pick. I thought maybe Drummond/DeAndre would fall to me in the 3rd round so went with a point guard first (I wanted a good PG as I wanted to supplement the Whiteside pick 1st before going after more big men)
    not entirely comfortable with how this turned out tbh, but what do you guys think?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @SF: With how Whiteside has turned around his FT game, I’m actually glad you didn’t punt FT! Looks like you’re as punt AST as it gets though haha. I think you did enough with your STL to make it work though, Scoring might be a tad light too. I’m not a huge punt AST guy, but for a 14er, I think this came out pretty well!

  105. Jimmy says:
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    I love you guys’ ranks, but I gotta say sometimes it gets a little confusing since JB does ranks and Slim does stats.

    Like Monta vs. Booker for example. Monta ranked a few spots under him, but his stats completely shit on Booker’s. So I would think even with Booker’s upside, Slim would take Monta first and JB would take Booker first? I get the upside for Suns’ guard injuries but still, it can’t be enough to beat Slim’s stat line for Ellis. 0.7 steals to 1.9? 2.1 assists to 4.2?

    Again, I love you guys but I’m just wondering how I should look at some of the situations like this one. Thank you!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jimmy: Totally hear you, that’s why we lay it out in the intro that sometimes we have vastly dissenting opionins. On the Pod we talked about Slim liking Ellis more than I do, and I think Booker is getting the buzz now to get that high, I’d bet Slim would boost his projections a tad given his play in the past few preseason games and with news Knight is the 6th man. I think Booker gets more AST than that, and more scoring and 3s. I think you’re looking at this situation kinda as we intend! You can see through the numbers our different thoughts 🙂

    • Slim

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      @Jimmy: Yeah I think Booker is a good THRAGNOF, maybe one of the better ones, but DStats are almost nonexistant. I want to point out that 3pt attempts in preseason have really gone down. FG% is better because of it so maybe there’s a smidge of Korver/Redick type of upside. With 32 minutes I’ll bump the points up to about 16 but I’m not sure about the 3s given how few he’s taking right now. Steals don’t budge, I think Bledsoe runs the offense with the 1s and when he’s out Knight runs it, which I believe is the main reason he’ll come off the bench. So I’m not budging assists much either. Yeah I’d pass on Booker for Monta and I don’t see a build in which I don’t. I would have to NEED Booker’s FT% I guess and feel really good about my assists and steals. So unlikely.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Jimmy: @Slim: That’s underselling him still I think. High end scoring doesn’t grow on trees, and with Knight with the second unit, I think Booker can get some AST. I would say if you need scoring, 3s, and a little more upside, I’m really worried about Monta’s role in this offense. A lot of standing around and he doesn’t shoot 3s

  106. JG says:
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    Hey JB,

    Look forward to these rankings every year! I Just wrapped up my 12-team H2H league (standard 9 cat) with the 10th pick. I wasn’t planning a FT-punt, but both Drummond and DJ were there in rounds 3/4 and I couldn’t resist!

    Here’s the squad, would love to hear your thoughts:

    1 (10): Hassan Whiteside
    2 (15): Kyle Lowry (in hindsight, should have grabbed Wall for the FT punt)
    3 (34): DeAndre Jordan
    4 (39): Andre Drummond
    5 (58): Chandler Parsons
    6 (63): Dennis Schroder
    7 (82): George Hill
    8 (87): Elfrid Payton
    9 (106): Clint Capela
    10 (111): Emmanuel Mudiay
    11 (130): Matt Barnes
    12 (135): Mason Plumlee
    12 (154): Omri Casspi

    Overall I’m pretty happy, but a bit worried I have too many FG% draining guards. JaMychal Green wasn’t drafted, would you drop any of the above for him?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @JG: Really appreciate that man, thanks for stopping by! Yeah I think Wall fits better next to Whiteside, I did a draft the other day for a 12er and went Whiteside/Wall combo. But damn, yeah you’ve destroyed the big man stats! Love Parsons in a FT punt, I think you assembled enough G stats, I like how this build came together! Only issue is your scoring is really really low. I think you FG drain isn’t an issue with all those bigs though. I actually did a FT punt, and I was torn between Casspi and Green. I ended up waiting and Green got added. I think I would indeed swap those 2

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks for getting back, man! Will definitely keep coming back throughout the season.

        Re: the low points issue, any recommended targets to trade for – giving up one of my mid-tier pgs?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @JG: Glad to hear, I’m pumped to get this started!

          I’d actually be more willing to move a big. Almost considering shopping Whiteside around. But Hill moved for a scorer would make sense too. Maybe try for Devin Booker? Might not work due to preseason hype. Ohhhh Wiggins! That might work. For Whiteside though, obviously it would take a lot of shopping to move your #1 pick this early haha

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            @JB Gilpin: Great ideas, thanks for the feedback!

            Will look for a Hill trade starting with Booker. Wiggins went pick #37 (!?) so I’m guessing his owner is very attached, haha.

            Interesting idea to move Whiteside. I could try for a straight Lebron swap, but I’m always hesitant with Bron being rested in the crucial playoff weeks.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @JG: Hah wow, yeah I don’t think Wiggins is a good target then 🙂 Yeah I’m hesitant on Bron too, I might go for like a 2nd and 4th rounder vs straight up for BronBron

  107. TeeVee says:
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    Hi!

    On a just counting stats build (as in ignoring %s and TOs), how would you rank: Schroeder, D’Angelo, Payton, Collison? Worth the first pick in the 6th round, 12-teamer?

    Thanks!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @TeeVee: I promise I’m not being lazy, but I think I’m going in that order. Schroder and D’Angelo being the closest 2. And hell yeah, all these guys (except maybe Collison in that format) are worth picks around there.

  108. MJC says:
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    Need some help with team construct here. It’s a 12 team keeper league, no cost, standard 9 cat. I have Brow, Porzingis, Blake as my 3 keepers. So we’re starting in the 4th round I have 4th pick. Considering that build I need to go guard heavy with a few picks right? So McCollum, d Barksdale, shroeder, Oladipo, batum, Hayward, are all there. I need ast and 3’s clearly. We are upping to 4 keepers next year, how would you rank those guys for my 1st pick? I like Barksdale a lot and draft with several laker fans so he’ll get snagged if I don’t take him in the 4th. Or is Oladipo or McCollum the best pick there to potentially be my 4th keeper next season?

    Prior to draft on Sunday would you try to trade one of my 3 bigs like a Blake for IT2 or a Brow for harden or Durant-I know may not accept but worth a shot in a keeper? Or hold brow due to youth and upside still?
    Thanks for your help

    • JB Gilpin

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      @MJC: Damn, nice set of bigs to start! Yup guard heavy it is. Def Dipo #1 by a good bit. Then prob McCollum, Hayward, Schroder, Barksdale, Batum. I like Batum, but doubt he would turn into a keeper. Dipo is def the best candidate for both your needs and keeper value.

      If Brow got your Harden or Durant, it would be worth it. Especially Harden. I’d float both of those offers

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        @JB Gilpin:
        Of course brow tweaks his ankle last night, probly scaring off any offer. I’ll still try. So you think no on offering Blake for IT2/3 of I can trade Brow?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @MJC: Damn yea I just saw that. Debating moving CP3 and Giannis over him, already with the injuries! Yeahhhhh I would rather hold Blake still I think

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            @JB Gilpin: would it be worth it try to package brow and Porz for like harden and millsap in a keeper and hope that owner is down to get younger or is Porz ceiling too high? Just trying rid myself of brow, he’s way too much a headache in a keeper.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @MJC: Ugggghhhh. No cost, the hell with it, I say go for it. Harden is still actually pretty good, and should be in the peak another good while and is best in deal. I like that deal if they take it

  109. lexhol says:
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    Thanks guys! Love your work and looking forward to more great things this season. I have a draft next week for a 12 team H2H league with 11 cats (standard plus FTM & 3PT%). How would your ranks reflect for such and which stats would you punt?

    cheers

    • JB Gilpin

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      @lexhol: Appreciate ya dropping by! 3pt% is so fluky, that I wouldn’t have that impact me too much. No Sullinger! Haha that’s the only guy who comes to mind, I don’t data mine through 3pt% almost ever. FTM would be a big area I would adjust for. Harden becomes #1, although with Steph’s unreal 3pt% it’s still close. All the big volume FT guys go up. DeRozan. Wiggins. Like me some Lou Williams late!

  110. Russell MacDougall says:
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    So I was going to wait for the podcast like last year where y’all look at everyone’s teams, but I saw all the rosters and so…….

    12 team espn8-cat

    9. Davis
    16. Wall
    33. McCollum
    40. Ibaka
    57. Gorgui
    64. Tricky Ricky Rubio
    81. Darren Collison
    88. Nurk
    105. Mudiay
    112. Bob Cov
    129. K. Dunn
    136. Dion
    153. Tim Frazier

    BUT WAIT!! Here comes a new challenger:

    Brow and Mudiay
    for
    The Bearded One

    Trade just happened.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Russell MacDougall: Oh damn, I TOTALLY forgot about that! We might have run out of time for that this year… I’m/the Razzball Podcast Studio is still without power due to the hurricane which has thrown a wrench into everything this week.

      Wow Brow fell to 9?! Oh, 8cat that makes sense. Wall shouldnt have fallen that far then. Dude, you absolutely robbed that guy getting Harden. Your team is insane at guard, def need some big man help though. Blocks look decent, but rebounding is very low. Might wanna look at trading your awesome G depth for a C now

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        @JB Gilpin: After getting no love for my pg all you can trade buffet, I ended up receiving Pau Gasol for rubio and collison. Maybe not the best deal but I am starting to like pau on the spurs, like the ft. I’m not liking what I see from Spurs guards. Pau and David Lee might facilitate a good bit? Is this rationalizing? Meh. At least I have 4 Pf/C instead of 3…

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Russell MacDougall: Yeah you def were overloaded, I might have tried for a smidge more, but I don’t hate it given your team build. Ummmm, I dunno if we see Pau go crazy for like 5+ AST or anything, but 4.1 like last year is easily repeatable.

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            @JB Gilpin: Ya so I actually posted this on this thread in late august:
            “B) Them Gasol boys. Pau getting Spurs-ed hard. Marc just outside my top 50 just behind Pau.”

            Nothing has changed as far as RCLs(!!! my league got a trophy and an applebees giftcard on the line. Highstakes RCL), but I am a loose cannon when it comes to trading and I didn’t like the deals I was getting for Wall and McCollum at all. I figure I could take a risk on old pau for rubio and collison and be realtively ok even without all 3 of them. If it meant I could stop myself from trying to trade away john wall for less and less, Rubio and Collison could move for less than value.

            (thats the thing about getting wall 16, rubio 64, collison 81, people want to believe their picks so in their minds they already made the decision against these guys at proper value once, why change just because I am trying to sell them they need them kind of thing.)

            with my fancy new roster space I picked up Jsullinger and Lwilliams. Thinking about dropping Dion for JaMychael Green.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Mac: Yeah I’m not too surprised the deals weren’t great, I think you did aight! Agree people get too married to draft results outta the gate. They’re meaningless. All about value. Def would make that move for J-Mike!

  111. Mhark says:
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    9 cat h2h yahoo league

    1. Kawhi
    2. Cousins
    3. Drummond
    4. K. Thompson
    5. Dennis schroder
    6. Jeremy lin
    7. Enes kanter
    8. Avery bradley

    What do u think of my team so far? Where do i lack?

    Thinking of getting frazier as my 9th pick? Is it too early?
    Thou buddy hield, embiid, george hill, r-jax are still available

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Mhark: Like this combo so far! FT% is likely a punt. I think you protected TO pretty well around Cousins and Schrodes. R Jax is sooooo risky. I like Hill for you. Boring upside, but I think fits

  112. TeeVee says:
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    The tier lists are really helpful and a good complement to this. I thought just PG’s dry up fast but C’s dry up really quick too. My pick is next in a few hours and assuming I don’t get sniped, I might be forced to draft Nerlens Noel which sucks and terribly hurts my FT%.

    The only good C’s available after are Gortat, Nurkic, Anderson and everyone onwards in the tier list (…Adams so low woah?). I’m sure that Gortat wont be around next time I pick (23 picks away), and maybe Anderson wont either.

    I was banking on Gobert’s improved FT% to do fine there, but I might end up double-punting both percentages if I pick Noel. Idk if that’s good. 8-cat, I got Lillard (12th) Cousins (13th) Gobert (35th) and Rubio (36th) so far. Kinda wish I got Dieng or Jokic instead, for more non-reaching value with that 4th round pick but we’ll see hahaha. I think Rubio should do great here.

    You think I should go for Noel now (hurting FT%) or should I hope that I can shore up my C’s later? Crowder’s available too I guess, but there’s a certain other SF much later in the draft that fits a 8-cat FG%-punt better. :>

    Picking from 12th is hard lol. Double-punt? Hahaha. (nervous laugh)

    Thanks

    • JB Gilpin

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      @TeeVee: Thanks man! Yeah a few years ago I begrudgingly started doing them based on request, and now I really like the practice to see how depth dries up. Yup Noel is tricky, I still feel like he has a good stroke, maybe it can start coming around for him at the stripe. Nurk with the following pick would be great value.

      Yeah I don’t like to punt 2 categories even in 9 cat, so try to avoid that in 8 cat. I don’t think Noel is necessary a death blow to FT% or FG% for you just yet. FG% is the worst cat for you so Noel I think works still.

      As for Adams, he’s so blah! Even in bigger minutes. Much better real life player than fantasy. I don’t think 0.5 STL and 1.1 BLK – maybe edge those up a minuscule amount if he plays 28-29 MPG – is enough to be interesting. Gets overrated based on real-life impact on playoffs play

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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah. Tiers are a great exercise and give a huge advantage for the draft.

        I ended up getting Nerlens Noel (59th) and D’Angelo Russell (60th). My 8-cat team so far is now Lillard (12th), Cousins( 13th), Gobert (36th), Rubio (37th), Noel (60th), Russell (61st).

        Big question: which of the two percentages should I attempt to fix? Should I focus on one or both? Especially since we’re dealing with rounds 8 onwards (my next pick is the last pick of the 7th round). I think I can be strong in the counting stats, maybe have to shore up threes later but you did say that double-punting is bad especially in 8-cat and given that insight, I would want to do fine in at least one of the percentages.

        On a side note, is my team a bit underwhelming (too many reaches?) or am I just fine? I hope Noel doesn’t come off the bench lmao.

        Thanks for all your help man!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @TeeVee: Holy crap. No way Russell shoulda lasted that long in 8 cat. That’s an unbelievable team. Agree your %s are only question mark – I think you work on FG%. FT looks tough and Cousins volume is tough to fix. I would have no worries at this point, I like it a lot!

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            @JB Gilpin: Sounds great, looks like I’ll try to fix FG% (while still being good at my counting stats). Do you think I should do this by forgetting FT% altogether and be able to target someone like Capela at like the 10th round? Or should I just draft normally so that my FT% isn’t too terrible but still bad? Howard and Anderson are gone lol they was just picked. Thanks!

            And yeah D’Loading was definitely a steal. I was supposed to follow Slim’s PG/C/PG/C/C/C/PG/PG style, but I couldn’t pass on Mr. Ice In His Veins.

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              @TeeVee: Hah yeah def can’t let D’Angelo go there! Yeah I might all out punt it if Capela fell to you, plus the FT punt guys help FG so I like that route

  113. Threekola says:
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    Guessing JB is expecting way more outta Parsons than Slim XD.

    Slim are your projections considering the lower minutes at first? I wanna know how you’ll think he’ll do once he’s a full go like last year. As I’m sure JB is, I’m expecting a little more than those numbers lol. Maybe more like 17-18 points with 2+ treys and 1.0-1.1 steals.

    Also, how long should I expect to wait until he’s playing 30+ minutes?

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      @Threekola: Yeah it’s a little bit of 1st half/ 2nd half. I’ll go with January he should be a full go. Will he get to 36 minutes like he did in HOU? I’ll take the under… Those numbers would be better than what he did in HOU with 36 minutes so I’m not so sure he can maintain that much production over a full season.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Threekola: @Slim: Yeah I’m hoping he comes out strong, although this is lingering on longer than I obviously wanted.

        I think he gets to 30+ minutes pretty quick though, 1-2 weeks after he’s back

  114. MJC says:
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    So Gobert hitting his FT in pre season at least. Have you guys seen him at the line lately? Do you think this is a legit improvement like Blake made? If so what’s that bump him to?

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      @MJC: We thought it was going to happen last year. If you think he’ll finish under 65% then late 3rd is a good spot. If you think he can get up over 70% then yeah a high end FT volume guy like Harden might be able to make up for it. The only thing though is that the FT volume for Gobert in the preseason is really high. If he doesn’t improve past 65% and maintains this volume then he’s punt FT only.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @MJC: @Slim: Yeah that’s why I had him so high last year, he showed improvement in the 2nd half and I like his stroke. I will note both his high volume Ft games were against the Suns, and that game last night had like 55 FTA for both teams haha

  115. Eggo Leggo Man says:
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    I wanted Milsap this year with my first pick at the end of first round until the injury. Would you really use a first round pick on him coming off a recent knee procedure?

    • Slim

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      @Eggo Leggo Man: I’m an agist so my answer is NO. But early to mid 2nd is solid. Pretty much where JB has him right now.

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        @Eggo Leggo Man: @Slim: Yeah I moved him to 14, so still early second round. But probably not first unless a deep league

  116. Quaz says:
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    well, draft done and as always the ranks were a great help. Thanks guys! Slim/JB/anyone would love to know what you think of my team…

    Pick 9 , 12 team H2H

    My picks in order

    9 -Karl-Anthony Towns (seriously, Im as stunned as you are…..)
    16 – Kyle Lowry
    33- Klay Thompson(my Warriors love showed through here a little)
    40 – Rudy Gobert
    57 – Gorgui Dieng
    64 – Ricky Rubio (by this point I started thinking I may put together the Wolves starting 5…..)
    81- Ryan Anderson
    88 -Jeremy Lin
    105 – Dirk Nowitzki
    112-Wesley Matthews
    129-Markieff Morris
    136.-Tim Frazier
    153-Luol Deng

    Overall I’m REALLY happy. Obviously KAT was a steal, but it’s more the late rounds where I feel I got some great value in guys like Dirk, Kief, Wes etc

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Quaz: Hah yeah 9 for Towns… Wow. Shocking Dirk fell that low too. Love Lin this year. Overall this team is awesome, small concerns are scoring (picks 4-6 being such low scorers) and was going to say AST but actually think you’re good. Frazier helps a ton. Just might need to do some scoring streaming and that’s about it!

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        @JB Gilpin:

        ha yeah I got burnt by chasing points this year, so didnt even think about it this time. Probably the easiest cat to stream, so i should be right

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Quaz: Yup. 3s and Pts are the easy ones! ThrAGNOF!

  117. Jason says:
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    Should I trade Thaddeus young for nerlens noel in 12 team h2h 9 cat with double doubles counted?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Jason: Most definitely! Really worried about Thads role as the clear #5 on that offense

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        @JB Gilpin: He seems to be doing very well from a few pre season games though. And now the injury situation with noel and stuff.

        I wanna pull the trigger on it, but i am worried i might not get a lot of games from noel

        Thanks JB

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          @Jason: Ugh yeah the injury now makes them a lot closer. I still wanna go Noel and take the deal, maybe you can convince him to give you a throw in sweetener you like?

  118. Mawww says:
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    Hey guys I’m really torn on who to choose as my 5th keeper in my dynasty league and was hoping you guys could help me decide! It’s a 12 team 17 cat head to head. We can keep 5 with one being a prospect. (Rookie or Sophmore)

    Sold on these guys
    – Giannis Antetokounmpo
    – Kemba Walker
    – Blake Griffen
    – Andrew Wiggins (Prospect)

    Torn on these two
    – Deandre Jordan
    – CJ McCollum

    Not sure if I want to keep punting FT% or take a different route but I sure am going to miss the boards blocks and DD’s. Also, your ratings give me a hard on.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Mawww: Man that’s definitely close! And you could use a big. I think with a whopping 17 cats though you can afford to punt FT and DJ is still pretty young. Gimme Jordan!

  119. Rakesh says:
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    Thanks for the advice, just finished a 12-team draft (yahoo 9-cat h2h) and the ranks were a huge help.

    Here’s my team (I had the 3rd pick):

    3 – Russell Westbrook
    22 – Kyrie Irving
    27 – Eric Bledsoe
    46 – Myles Turner
    51 – Nicolas Batum
    70 – Jusuf Nurkic
    75 – Dwight Howard
    94 – Clint Capela
    99 – Bradley Beal
    118 – Buddy Hield
    123 – Kris Dunn
    142 – Justise Winslow
    147 – JaMychal Green

    Any thoughts on my team? I’m fairly happy with it overall, but I was wondering if there are any weaknesses I should address through trade.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Rakesh: Glad to help guide ya! Whoaaaaaaa Beal fell haha. You’re def a FT punt, and I think even with less bigs you have decent REB and BLK. It looks a good bit different than a team I’d typically draft but I actually like it a good bit! Maybe trade a hot guard early on for one more buy low FT punt and you’d be golden

  120. Mike says:
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    Whatsup boys, hows everything goin? Just did a draft, would you guys mind giving me some constructive criticism?

    Round 1, Pick 3 (3rd Overall)
    Kevin Durant GS – SF,PF
    Round 2, Pick 8 (18th Overall)
    Paul Millsap Atl – PF,C
    Round 3, Pick 3 (23rd Overall)
    Kemba Walker Cha – PG
    Round 4, Pick 8 (38th Overall)
    Rudy Gobert Uta – C
    Round 5, Pick 3 (43rd Overall)
    Goran Dragic Mia – PG,SG
    Round 6, Pick 8 (58th Overall)
    Pau Gasol SA – PF,C
    Round 7, Pick 3 (63rd Overall)
    Chandler Parsons Mem – SF,PF
    Round 8, Pick 8 (78th Overall)
    Brandon Knight Pho – PG,SG
    Round 9, Pick 3 (83rd Overall)
    Jusuf Nurkic Den – C
    Round 10, Pick 8 (98th Overall)
    Kent Bazemore Atl – SG,SF
    Round 11, Pick 3 (103rd Overall)
    Elfrid Payton Orl – PG
    Round 12, Pick 8 (118th Overall)
    Justise Winslow Mia – SF,PF
    Round 13, Pick 3 (123rd Overall)
    Buddy Hield NO – SG

    10-team standard 9-cat H2H, how’s it looking? =o

    Correct me if I made any mistakes haha

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Mike: Love this team! All guys I have ranked higher than where you got them, and guys ending up on my teams. Only thing I got is your AST are pretty light. And a lot of your success will ride on Gasol staying healthy and avoiding DNPs in the playoffs so through the year you’d be looking to hit on a waiver big to help there. Other than that, love it!

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Thanks lol. I think Dragic was the only guy I drafted earlier than your rank. I have failed…

        I don’t know, I tend to draft teams with scattered assists. You think I’m low on em but they creep up on you. Between Dragic, Elfrid, Kemba, Knight, KD, Pau, Millsap…even Parsons and Winslow, I think my assists add up. Not great, but better than you’d think. Or maybe you saw all that and still think it’s light haha. I just don’t like relying on one or two guys for assists. A bad game can really screw you.

        And yeah…not sure how I feel about owning him but. The pat two years I’ve been the guy that said he’s done. Nothing left in the tank. Of course I draft him when he’s even older and on the damn Spurs. I donno what’s wrong with me lol. But 16/11/4/0.5/2 last year?!!? That’s crazy. Anything remotely close to that and I’m happy.

        Also Parsons is kind of worrying me…I hope he doesn’t take until the end of the year to produce like last year…you think that can happen?

        Thanks JB

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Mike: Hahaha nobody can be as perfect as me 🙂

          Elfrid def was a great get, Dragic is solid, but then past that no 5+ guys. You’re not like punting it, but I think behind most teams most likely.

          Agree the hate on Pau is going wayyyyy too far, turning him into a value. But there’s still obvious risk. I do think Parsons can get going sooner than later, or else I dunno if they would’ve signed him for that much… I’m still hoping for the best even though I dropped him a few spots for the next ranks update coming out Monday

  121. Tom says:
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    I somehow still have yet to draft my team but there are some things that have come up that I’d like an opinion on. I moved up to pick 9 in my 12 team 8 cat league. My eyes are set on Kawhi but if he doesn’t fall, then I’m definitely going Chris Paul. Who do you guys think would be the best person to pair along with those two guys? In mocks I’ve mostly been going with bigs for each in the 2nd round but lately I’ve been putting Kawhi with Lowry because I can’t pass up an elite guard. What do you guys think?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Tom: It’s not weird not drafting yet! Next week is the big week for drafts for me. In 8 cat, I go guards guards and more guards. Format helps them so much. Paul Lowry would be an awesome start. Although if Giannis is on the board I think you’d have to take him first. Guards early bigs late is how I always draft 8 cat!

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        @JB Gilpin: how do you draft 9 cat? I’m in a 14 team deep league with the 12th pick

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          @Shawn: More balance, but depends on what picks fall to you. I’ve done Whiteside/Wall as my 1/2 picks in 14 cat, balancing out virtually everything except 3s

      • Tom says:
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        @JB Gilpin: How would you recommend building around Kawhi though? He’s my favorite player to watch in the league, and I have to pick him if he’s there. The League Pass effect for fantasy basketball

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Tom: I can’t disagree with you, I own Kawhi in REL, our 20er dynasty which is my favorite league, and he’s the main reason. Def would want a low-TO PG. Lowry would be a pretty good one. Then good % low TO guys for the most part. Ya know, your Valanciunas then Rolo later, that kinda thing

  122. Threekola says:
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    Hey JB, whatsup man

    Just wondering if you could explain your Noel ranking. How do you feel about his health with his groin thing and his role in this frontcourt? Do you think a trade is likely and/or would help him? You still think 48 is the right rank?

    Thanks man

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      @Threekola:

      also why is Garry Harris so low? He might play the opener and he should be top 100 while he plays no?

      • Slim

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        @Threekola: I think JB is worried about the Nuggets improved depth and that Harris was better late in the year when Gallo was out. I’m not worried at all, and he’s young enough that I expect him to heal quickly and fully. I’ve got him ranked at about 100 even and that feels like a bit of a bargain. Murray is looking more and more like a PG, probably had his best preseason game last night, and Beasley probably won’t leave the bench when Harris is back. 32 minutes per game feels like a conservative projection.

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          @Slim: @Threekola: I fell into the trap I constantly tell myself not to fall into, expecting a trade. I still think Noel is a top 70 option pretty easily, but I’m moving him down for the next update on Monday. Down to 61 right now.

          I dunno if Harris is really that valuable when everyone is healthy. Not too different than Courtney Lee. Maybe a few more 3s. I think the Harris love Slim is pumping out is overhyping him. He had a groin issue last year too, so I dunno if we see this huge role out of the gate

          • Slim

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            @JB Gilpin: This should be entertaining… Lee is 30 and only getting worse. Harris is 21 and brokeout 2nd half. Lee is 1.0-1.2 3s/stlsl and 30 min. We know exactly what he is. Harris is 1.5-1.7 3s/steals and i’ll generously give him a low end 30 min, high end 36. Lee is 9-10 pts. Harris is 11-14 or so given what he did last year. Everything else looks about a push since both are low volume guys. Yes I think that is the difference between 100 and outside 152.

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              @Slim: At that 100 range, would you take Gary Harris over the likes of Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Rodney Hood, Kent Bazemore, and Demarre Carroll?

              • JB Gilpin

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                @Slim: @TeeVee: Definitely not in the range of Hood Carroll or definitely not close to Bazemore. RHJ is team needs at that point. Harris had 1.3 STL last year, why such a big bump up? Per-36, Lee 1.3 STL to Harris 1.4. Harris is going into the year hurt. Lee I think plays more minutes than you think. this isn’t a defense of Lee, it’s just Harris isn’t that different.

  123. cory says:
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    at what point would you guys say “screw it, i’m taking this guy despite his injury” ?

    i mean for the guys like hayward, jrue, even bayless etc.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @cory: Where I have Jrue feels right, 100ish. I moved Hayward down to 48, only 5 spots down. Bayless maybe last pick or two in a 12er, still tinkering how far down I’m moving him. Re-ranks will be out Monday morning 🙂

  124. BB8 says:
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    Hi JB/Slim! What are your thoughts on AD? Is he still worth the risk? I have an offer to get him for MGasol + Parsons who are also coming off injuries? Go for his upside or go for depth? Thanks in advance!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @BB8: Yo! Yeah if Brow fell to the end of the first round, i would still get him. Definitely not taking that deal. I like Parsons a lot, but it’s trading superstar risk for two good players risk.

  125. Eric says:
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    Hey man i just finished drafted on my H2h 16 team league i went first on picked westbrook and
    this is my whole team

    1. (1) Russell Westbrook (OKC – PG)
    2. (28) Brook Lopez (Bkn – C)
    3. (29) Eric Bledsoe (Pho – PG,SG)
    4. (56) Gordon Hayward (Uta – SG,SF)
    5. (57) Dennis Schroder (Atl – PG)
    6. (84) Chandler Parsons (Mem – SF,PF)
    7. (85) Jabari Parker (Mil – SF,PF)
    8. (112) Clint Capela (Hou – PF,C)
    9. (113) George Hill (Uta – PG,SG)
    10. (140) Justise Winslow (Mia – SF,PF)
    11. (141) Jared Sullinger (Tor – PF,C)
    12. (168) Matt Barnes (Sac – SG,SF)
    13. (169) Ed Davis (Por – PF,C)

    i wanted to go for pts assts steals FT%FG% then i realized on 8th pick i needed rebs so i went for capela knowing it will hurt my FT but still i want to have a go on rebs whatcha think do i need to improve? thanks man, last year i won my leagues 20 H2H thanks to your rankings.

    • Eric says:
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      @Eric:

      Added that i risked my drafts to hayward and parsons whatcha think about em? is it worth it?

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Eric: Luckily the rest of your FT is decent enough that I think you can cover it, but 112 was good value for Capela. Even with him, REB and BLK are fairly light, although E Bled and Westbrook help with some out of position boards. I think that’s about all I see, you’ll just be looking for bigs off the wire. 84 for Parsons is crazypants. I moved Hayward to 48, so that was a good value. Parsons might end up being the best value in your draft at that point, although it will annoyingly start slow

  126. TeeVee says:
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    Darren Collison or Avery Bradley? I know the former is higher in your rankings but you did say that you will update them so I want to know if your outlook changed. Or is it a wash and dependent on team build? Thanks!

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      @TeeVee: Welp, the guy right before me took Darren Collison. Do you think Avery Bradley’s preseason Assists are legit? Could he be playmaker #2 for Boston? What can Avery Bradley do this season in fantasy?

      • JB Gilpin

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        @TeeVee: Still Colly, no change for his rank to the update I’m about done with for tomo morning. Mehhhhh, he’s never been an AST guy, I know he might fill some extra facilitating holes with Turner gone, but I think he’s still mainly a 3-n-d guy.

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          @JB Gilpin: Awesome, thanks JB! Definitely hoping he takes a step forward in threes because my team needs it hahaha.

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            @TeeVee: Well at least 3s are easy to stream if ya need it!

  127. I’m in a 16 team 10 cat H2H keeper league. I’m planning on keeping Giannis with my 4th round pick. Currently drafting from the 10th spot. Other keepers are I. Thomas, KAT, McCollum, Draymond, George, Butler, Lowry, Irving, R. Anderson, Marvin Williams, Butler, Lavine and Porzingis. 2 other owners do not have any keepers. Trying to think which directions to build, do I go PG to compliment assist or think BIG with the first 2 picks and target PGs later in the draft?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Ezekial: Dayum, good value for Giannis! Fun thing with Giannis is you can literally go in any direction. I’m only inclined to lean PG because they’re tougher to assemble in a 16er, but I wouldn’t be set to go either way. I’d probably go one PG and one big

  128. Ben says:
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    Hey just finished draft unsure how I went, got some picks I value and some I’m unsure on advice would be appreciated. H2H league
    C. Paul
    W. Matthews
    C. Parsons
    P. Millsap
    G. Dieng
    K. Walker
    D. Carrol
    G. Dragic
    J. Nurkic
    D. Schroder
    N. Mirotic
    JaMychal Green
    K. Caldwell-pope

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Ben: Damn, love your %s and low TO! Very efficient team. Only guys who really scare me efficiency wise are if Miro gets cold and Schroder. I guess Walker’s FG% will get annoying sometimes too. Meh, actually your FG% is iffy, but you have such good 3s. I think bigs are your need, if Miro or Wes start really hot, I might try to flip for a REB/BLK big

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        @JB Gilpin:
        Was thinking the same, going to have to up sell when they get hot. Backing Nurkic and Green to carve up this year. Was wondering if I should go Matt Barnes off waivers for Miro?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Ben: I have Barnes ranked higher, but perception on Miro is soooo high, I think I might try to sell high if Miro starts hot rather than make the swap. I don’t think Barnes has too many people waiting to add him yet

  129. dom says:
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    hey guys can’t wait for another year of fantasy basketball, the best of the pretend sports

    how would the top of your rankings change given a 16 team league 10 cat (offensive REB)? i honestly think i’d have KAT 2nd to only Curry. love the high floor/high ceiling profile

    • JB Gilpin

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      @dom: Can’t wait either my man! Hmmmmm, I think I would still go Westbrook who is a good rebounder 2nd. Damn I dunno after that, might take the shot at 3

  130. Threekola says:
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    RAZZUP BOYS! Just did the annual in-person live draft last night. A lot of beer was consumed. A lot of hookah was smoked. And a lot of meat was grilled.

    So, obviously I wanna know what you guys think, cause I can’t not know. 9-cat standard H2H 10-team. Here’s how it went!

    #3- Stephen Curry
    #18- Draymond Green (I guess I’m watching Warriors games and praying they struggle)
    #23- Brook Lopez
    #38- Pau Gasol (GOD DAMNIT)
    #43- Serge Ibaka (Didn’t know he was available when I took Pau lol)
    #58- Mike Conley
    #63- Dennis Shroeder
    #78- Nerlens Noel
    #83- Darren Collison (Really happy about this one, his high volume fg should help)
    #98- Robert Covington
    #103- Wesley Matthews (AAAAANDDD there goes my fg with those two. I might win some weeks)
    #118- Justise Winslow (Upside. That is all)
    #123- Jared Sullinger (Kinda felt like I needed some help in the big stats)

    Well, there it is! Let me know how it’s lookin. Be harsh on me, please. I’m a veteran and defending champion now, no mistakes allowed haha =D

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Threekola: Wooooo! Damn sounds like a killer party. You’re def a Warriors fan now! Haha. Love Schroder 63. Noel was a good value too. Yeahhhh your FG% is likely a loss most weeks. Beyond that I promise I don’t have too much! D stats look really strong, I do worry a lot of your REB will be tied into Pau staying healthy and playing through the playoffs

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Yeah…one side of me is saying Pau will thrive in Spurs per minute as he is the best replacement for Duncan in the NBA. 2-time champ veteran two-way big with playmaking skills.

        Remember, Pop played Duncan 77 games at 28.9 minutes per, and he was 38 at the time. 38. Pau just turned 36 and just had an elite year. I can’t be crazy to see a decent chance, or even a probability, that Pau gets played 70+ games barring any injury playing at least 28-29 minutes a game. With that, I think he can easily pump out a stat line like 14.5-9.5-4.2-0.4-1.8 or so. (That’s points through blocks) I think his assists per minute increase, as he’s pretty much the best passer on the team, maybe behind Tony Parker. Plus, Pop knows how to use his playmaking bigs after 20 years of Timmy lol.

        ALTHOUGHHH my other side is telling me to sell once he starts off the year strong.

        A trade I thought of is trading away Pau and Noel for Dieng and Nurkic but I don’t think that’s enough for me. I might just hold.

        For some reason I’d be relieved if I got rid of Pau and Noel though. Idk, I just don’t know what’s happening with Noel. He’s doubtful for opening night and idk where he fits into that whole Philly situation. I just hope he can replicate his last year stats.

        I’m expecting that sort of season.

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          @Threekola:

          Lmao, also that last line where I said “I’m expecting that sort of season” was supposed to go after the Pau part. Idk what happened there.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Threekola: Hah yeah a comment above was just talking about Pu’s diming, I think 4.1 is replicable for sure, even in a few less mins. I’m having trouble disputing much of that line, I’d prob go under in REB and BLK though just because LMA and Kawhi should be crashing the paint a little too. Yeahhhhh, that trade is close though, with Noel now hurt. It’s a little too much risk for me, glad you held.

  131. hassan_blackside says:
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    ei jb and slim whatsup!! someone offered me his harrison barnes for my taj. should i take it? and another offered his kemba, wiggins, fournier for my harden and taj would i consider it? and also snell is still available would u consider droping chriss for snell? heres my lineup btw its 18team league 9 cats. Thanks in advance bros!!

    1. James Harden PG,SG,SF
    2. Victor Oladipo PG,SG
    3. Gorgui Dieng PF,C
    4. Tobias Harris SF,PF
    5. Chandler parsons Sf,pF
    6. Elfrid Payton PG
    7. Clint Capela PF,C
    8. Buddy Hield SG
    9. Taj Gibson PF,C
    10. Jared Dudley SG,SF
    11. tyler johnson
    12. jerryd bayless
    13. marquese chriss
    14. josh richardson

    certified razballers

    • JB Gilpin

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      @hassan_blackside: Whats up man?! Wowwwww, that 2nd deal is mighty tempting in an 18er. You get back more than enough scoring, just really lose on AST. I think you’re taking that second deal, it’s just sooooo much good depth.

  132. HamaYumi says:
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    tried to punt asts…ended up also punting points and maybe FG% 🙁
    16 team | H2H | ESPN | 8cat league

    9 Anthony Davis, Nor PF
    24 LaMarcus Aldridge, SA PF
    41 Nikola Jokic, Den PF
    56 Trevor Ariza, Hou SF
    73 Danilo Gallinari, Den SF
    88 Aaron Gordon, Orl PF
    105 Nikola Mirotic, Chi PF
    120 Patrick Beverley, Hou PG
    137 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Bkn SF
    152 Danny Green, SA SG
    169 Jerryd Bayless, Phi PG
    184 Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Cha SF
    201 Josh Richardson, Mia SG

    • JB Gilpin

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      @HamaYumi: Damn, yeah that’s a lot of punting! While I get your approach, I don’t like punting AST much in 8 cat, this team would be a lot better in 9 cat with the low TO. I def think you could afford to trade Gallo if he starts hot (hopefully to someone not knowing his INJ history) and try to get a more efficient scorer

  133. TeeVee says:
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    Hey, do you think Elfrid Payton’s FG% takes a step forward this year, or is that just the way his game is? Interesting to think about with all the changes to that Magic team. The severe lack of 3s would already be bad enough for fantasy purposes. Thanks!

    • Slim

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      @TeeVee: It’s kind of a tough call… So he’s a terrible 3pt shooter right? 32.6% last year is a bit below league avg but not attrocious (Westbrook has passed that number only once in his career and was just under 30% the past 2 years). There’s lots of talk about Elfrid working hard on his jumper and he’s 2-fer-6 through 3 games with 2 att per game in 27 min per (Last year was 1.3 att in 30 min). So the attempts seem to be going up as is the efficiency. I watched most of the game yesterday, mostly to see Elfrid since he’s come back so slow from his hip and it looked like he was taking it pretty easy, esp defensively. He had a few runners that looked real good, so yeah I’m going with an increase in FG% but probably not drastic. 45% or so, I only have him at 0.5 3s per game but I think that’s the floor with about 0.8 being close to his ceiling for this year. FT shooting is still an issue but the volume is pretty low and should continue to improve some. I put him at 60% but I think that too represents his floor.

    • Slim

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      @TeeVee: I also watched for Aaron Gordon and he looked completely out of the offense and that was without Vuc. Fournier looks like the alpha now, I’m bumping him a smidge and bringing Gordon down a smidge, although I fully trust Gordon’s dstats and he could very well turn into another Millsap, he just doesn’t look nearly aggress