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We’re officially at a crossroads!  We push all the way to the triple-digits and protrude into the late rounds.  That’s a weird word, protrude.  Sounds like a scene title from the Anchorman DVD when Will Ferrell complains about the pleats…  Hey, I’ve written 100 ranks now, don’t act like you’re not impressed!

Get ready to be impressed by links!  Here’s my Top-10, Top-25, Top-50 & Top-75 if you’re still catching up.  Ranks, ranks, ranks!  And with us now getting to the top 100, I’m sure we’re going to start seeing a lot of comments about guys that fell off the horse.  I just double-checked myself looking at Yahoo’s ranks for the first time, and they have someone top-40 that I didn’t even rank yet!  Lunacy…  Here’s the Top 100 for the 2016-17 Fantasy Basketball Season:

(Psyche!  Be sure to put your quibbles with my ranks to the test in the 2016-17 Razzball Basketball RCL Leagues, now open and 100% free to join, start a league and sign up now!)

76. Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks

I think we need to start off these ranks heading into the late rounds with a super sexy, young, immense upside-y, European player your league has never heard of!  Despite Slim’s hatred of old people, Dirk really produced last season, with an absurd 31st overall finish.  We obviously don’t quite expect that again, and it’s a little metrics-whorey with the 1.1 TO, but we should get another solid season, albeit rife with some DNPs.

77. Jeremy Lin, Brooklyn Nets

Well, you either missed the PG run or want to be sure to secure your 3rd or 4th PG early, and I think Lin is where you go.  He had a nice bounceback season with the Hornets – both in stats and in mohawk hair product – with a career low in TO, career best in REB, and tied a penultimate career-high in FT volume (career best was in the 35 game 11-12 Knicks run…).  On a Nets team absolute bereft of any sort of offensive creativity, Lin has a chance to shine yet again in NY.  Linsanity!  They have no wing playmaking, and their best playmaker is Brolo in the post with a little pop-babyhook, so I think Lin will rack up the dimes just dumping it down.  Low treys and steals inhibit some upside, but the scoring should be decent as well.  There’s enough here to interest me.

78. George Hill, Utah Jazz

In the same vein of Lin, we get yet another PG with pretty “bleh” upside, but is worth a pick towards the end of the mid-rounds.  Without having his usage crushed by Paul George and Monta on the wings, Hill can belt out The Thong Song all night long on the Utah wing.  Sure the Gordon’s Fisherman is going to get his touches, but it’s a decent little situation.  We know Hill’s pretty durable, can make the open trey, and most importantly chip in probably 5-5.5 AST on that team with under 2 TO.  Great fit in that non-TO build I’m starting to put together!  KAT/Kemba/Aldridge/4thround/Conley/6th round/Hill…?

79. Aaron Gordon, Orlando Magic

Frank Vogel just said the sexiest two words I’ve ever heard…  Small.  Forward.  Yup, looks like Aaron Gordon is going to be your starting SF for a monstrous Magic team that can play a lot like the monstrous Pacers team.  And Vogel said he’s going to play Gordon like he played PG13.  Well, let’s not get too nuts here, Gordon isn’t near that kind of shooter, dribbler, or facilitator.  Hell, they’re completely different, but just the fact Vogel wants to play Gordon that many minutes is enough for me.  In only 24 MPG last year, Gordon went 9.2/6.5/1.6/0.8/0.7 with his run getting noodled by SKIIIIILES!  He made vast improvements from his rookie season though, shooting much better from the field at 47.3% (despite a pretty ugly sub-30% clip from deep).  He also kept the TO in check with a much bigger role.  I’m excited!  The hype train might get kinda loud, but I’ll buy in at this range.

80. Robert Covington, Philadelphia 76ers

Lord Covington!  I was actually surprised how sexy his numbers looked from last year, with a 12.8/6.3/1.4/1.6/0.6 slash and 2.5 treys.  STL & Treys, boats & hoes!  Sadly for both the boats and the hoes, the FG% dropped his third straight season to 38.5% and the TO went up for the 3rd straight season to 2.1.  Still, a 63rd per-game finish is nothing to sneeze at, especially considering he injured his knee at the end of the 15-16 preseason and fought some Skiles-esque minutes battles with Brett Brown.  RobCo was sub 27 MPG pre-ASB, post-ASB got to 31:10 MPG with an absurd 3.3 treys and gorgeous 15.6/7/1.5/1.5/0.6 slash.  He also shot 39.6% (still bad, I know) in that run vs. 37.8% to start the year.  A healthy offseason, hopefully a dedicated 30+ MPG role, and the upside for a pretty special season could come together, especially with the dire need for his floor spacing.  I didn’t intend to go this nuts for RobCo going into these ranks – I know he burned a lot of owners with his ups and downs last year – but re-looking at his numbers and projecting the upside gave me some mad appeal.

81. Kent Bazemore, Atlanta Hawks

I was really surprised at myself for ranking Baze this high.  His 75th per-game wasn’t really too shocking, but his consistent role sure was as we progressed through last season.  In games #3-#48, he was 13.2/4.8/2.4/1.3/0.4 with 1.7 treys and 46.1% 3PT shooting.  He showed some inconsistencies down the stretch, but it was a new starting role for him, and Baze got paid!  On top of it being a major career year, his fix to his FT% is just ridiculous – dude was a career 60% FT shooter going into last year!  Then all the sudden goes 1.6-2.0 for 81.5% at the stripe in 15-16.  I expect him to get to 30 MPG this season, and notch career bests across the board yet again.

82. Avery Bradley, Boston Celtics

It’s a little bit of high-end ThrAGNOF, but dem steals baby, dem steals!  Career-best 1.5 swipes last year, on top of 15.2 PPG and 1.9 treys, also career highs.  He doesn’t do too much else and 44.7% from the field we saw last year might be a smidge high, but at least you pretty much know exactly what you’re going to get.  An anti-Forrest Gump.

83. Jordan Clarkson, Los Angeles Lakers

Welllllll, dammit.  I liked Clarkson a ton in 15-16 and he as just OK…  A 135 overall finish in per-game?!  Ouch.  I know Kobe Bryant hogged the ball a ton, but dayum 2.4 dimes last season was mad infuriating.  He still had his low TO, but only 1.1 steals and 1.4 treys in a pretty meh line was annoying.  He’s got a little more upside over these wings ahead of him to be a George Hill-type, but there’s too wide a range of outcomes for me to go any higher.  Mayyyybe we get to 16 Pts and 4.5 Ast, and he can be a very nice 4th PG…

84. Enes Kanter, Oklahoma City Thunder

There hasn’t been too many guys I’ve been more critical of for their lack of peripheral stats then Big Enes.  He hasn’t averaged over 0.5 STL or BLK in his career, with his dimes topping out at a Stockton-esque 0.9 in 13-14.  Playing in Utah rubbed off on him that season!  But speaking of rubbing one off, you gotta love his new situation!  After Serge Ibaka went down in 14-15 to end the regular season, Kanter went 20.8/12.2/0.8/0.6/0.6 in the final 17 OKC games that year.  There was also no Kevin Durant then, so the upside for a pretty big scoring and rebound output is there.  He also shot 57.1% from the field and had a pretty big 83.3% FT clip at 3.5-4.2 per in that stretch.  Slim made a good point on the Pod that Kanter’s-upside-line is closer to LaMarcus Aldridge than it should be given the ranks, but we’re looking at a very small sample and weighing the best-case scenario.  Shave off a little around the Enes stats and consider he’ll probably be at 2.0+ TO and this rank feels about right.

85. Wesley Matthews, Dallas Mavericks

He was such a forgotten name, that I almost even forgot about him!  I had Wes barely creeping the back end of the top-100, but the more I thought about it and looked at the stats he was able to put up off such a devastating injury, the more I’m buying in.  Remember, even off the Achilles injury going into 15-16, we were still ranking him 100ish after being at that 40-60 range a few years.  Despite being a down year, per-game still gave him a 102nd valuation.  Yes, the FG% was by far a career low, and he had absolutely no aggression with a career-low in FT volume (but also in TO, so that’s good), but he still made a boatload of treys (2.4) with a steal-per to be nice and ThrAGNOFfy.  And perhaps the best thing that Wes had going for him last year was playing 78 games, at 33:54 MPG.  Oddly, he was actually BETTER on less rest (1 game or 0 game rest) than with extended rest, and yes it’s probably small sample bias, but actually a little encouraging that his body was holding up.  In April, Matthews made an absurd 3.6 treys/per in 7 games, and just like in that run, there won’t be Chandler Parsons around.  Not like Harrison Barnes is gonna be stretching the floor the same way either!  We’re already hearing Matthews sound off on how strong he’s feeling and how different 16-17 will be with a healthy offseason, and the overly-optimistic Mark Cuban is excited too, but that doesn’t mean much haha…  I’m going to be a heavy Matthews buyer in the late rounds.

86. Devin Booker, Phoenix Suns

Awwwww, yeah!  Everyone loves them some of the younguns!  Just a phenomenal breakout rookie season for the D-Book, going 17.4/3/3.5/0.6/0.3 as a starter in 51 games in 15-16, with 1.5 treys.  The TO and lack of steals hurt the overall metrics, but on such an abhorrent Suns team when E Bled and Knight got hurt, it’s pretty incredible.  But obviously therein lies the rub – it’s going to be tough to be too bullish with both the Suns guards healthy.  They’re both more brittle than grandma’s peanut snack, but it might make Booker a bumpy ride to open the season.  Even so, the minutes should be there, and I think we see more treys, a few less dimes, and a lot less TO without the constant pressure to create.  It’ll be a little high-end ThrAGNOFfy, but with the upside for a more complete line when/if one of the other guards gets hurt.

87. Luol Deng, Los Angeles Lakers

The definition of a snoozefest pick, I think people are sleeping a little too much on Deng in a GREAT situation.  After Chris Bosh went down, Deng went nuts for 15.2/8.1/2.5/1.2/0.5 over the final 28 games, with 1.1 treys shooting 48.4% with only 1.4 TO.  I guess “nuts” might be overstating it a bit, but it had been a while before Deng did anything flashy!  Then he goes out and signs a nice deal to finish the peak year of his career in LA.  Brandon Ingram doesn’t even look close to ready, and I think they could slot Deng over to some stretch-4 at times when Julius Randle is struggling.  Regardless, Deng is going to get 30+ MPG and have a chance to replicate that line above; sure, shave off a few REB and maybe the TO go up a tick, but he’s going to be their only real offensive weapon outside of their backcourt.

88. Thaddeus Young, Indiana Pacers

We’re likely going to see him ranked much more favorably than this, but I REALLY worry about the impact his new role is going to have.  He’s put up his stats on a terrible 76ers team and a pretty god awful Nets team.  I don’t think he’s a great fit for the up-tempo Pacers team, and I certainly don’t hope he starts trying to shoot treys again.  When he’s trying to shoot outside, it absolutely drains his FG% – he’s well over 50% from the field in 5 seasons where he took under 0.4 3PTA, in the other 4 seasons of his career?  He’s taken well over 1.5 attempts and shot well under 50%.  The Pts and Reb are definitely going down, and really the only saving grace is he should still be a 1.5 Stl PF which is tough to find.  I’m not expecting too much else though…

89. Ben Simmons, Philadelphia 76ers

Finally, some fresh blood!  As you’re going to see across most ranks and ADPs, rookies aren’t going to be heavily drafted this season, but it’s not for lack of upside in the draft class in dynos.  It’s just some pretty blah upside in redraft.  The expectation is for Simmons to play point-forward, which makes a lot of sense with Jerryd Bayless your projected starter at PG, who is more of a shooter.  Simmons flashed what he could do in Summer ball going 10.8/7.7/5.5/1.0/0.5, and you know, that looks about right.  He also showed his warts shooting 32.2% from the field and committing 3.8 TO.  Let’s hope those fix!  It’s going to be a pretty infuriating ride at times, but the out-of-position dimes are worth drafting him for, if he lasts this far.

90. Monta Ellis, Indiana Pacers

He’s still only paid less than $11 mil this year, THERE’S SO MANY CHUMPS GETTING PAID MORE THAN MONTA ELLIS!  Well, Monta kinda became a chump himself last year, sadly…  Wildly inconsistent, Monta’s scoring fell to BY FAR a career low taking out his rookie season, TO stayed too high, FG% fell, FT volume fell… It’s just all salvaged by 1.9 STL and 4.7 AST.  Problem is, I don’t think he gets to either of those, and not particularly close in AST with Jeff Teague sucking up more PG USG.  And there will be MUCH better offensive output from the frontcourt, which will have Monta doing a lot of standing around.  Even with the nice STL and AST last year, he still only finished 72nd in per-game and I don’t know if he will be too close to that anyway…  But if you need those stats late, I could see gambling like a madman on a moped.

91. Ryan Anderson, Houston Rockets

Metrics-darling, Ryno Anderson!  Although he only finished 70th in per-game last year…  Guessing it has to do with his HORRIFIC spike in TO!  Career worst!  Did he try to emulate James Harden knowing he was about to go to the Rox!  Get this – Anderson’s TO were…  wait for it…  an atrocious 1.4 TO a game!!!!  What is going on in the world?!?!!  Otherwise, Anderson had a pretty standard Ryno season going 17.0/6.0 with 2.0 treys.  Such round numbers!  He also got his games-played back up to 66.  The vet got paid a cool $80 mil to play in D’Antoni’s system (MORE THAN MONTA MOTHERF ELLIS!), and I think we can expect maybe a few less points, more 3s, and 70 games.  Not too shabby out-of-position stats at this point in the draft.

92. DeMarre Carroll, Toronto Raptors

Like Matthews, Run-DMC is going to be maddddd overlooked at wing.  Carroll’s debut season with the Craptors had a laundry list of injuries, but he at least put up some decent stats while out there (minus not being healthy enough to handle LeBron in the playoffs).  His 3PTM and STL were both career highs over his last two starting seasons in ATL, albeit in a pretty small 26 game sample size.  But one good thing of several small injuries is he isn’t recovering from one major surgery.  Yes, Norman Powell did show some flashes to light a little fire under Carroll’s butt, but barring any sort of horrific downturn in skills, it should remain Carroll’s 32-34 MPG gig this season.  The games played remain a little bit of a concern since 73 is his max, but I see him bouncing back.

93. JJ Redick, Los Angeles Clippers

Ewwwww, bacne!  Ewwww, horrible tattoo judgment!

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Is Redick’s right arm supported by a god awful goth metal band?!  I imagine in this picture he’s humming Evanescense…  Then with his dumb handjob-looking motion there with his right hand, I’m guessing he just shocked the world by making a 3-pointer.  THAT’S ALL YOU CAN DO, BUDDY!  The metrics always love him for the 3s/low TO/not-killing FG%, but not in my wildest dreams do I see him shooting 48% from the field again, 47.5% from deep, or scoring over 16 PPG with Blake Griffin healthy.  And he doesn’t do anything else than that.  Sure he’s one of the better ThrAGNOFs, but that makes him a ThrAGNOF all the less…

94. Derrick Rose, New York Knicks

While he is obviously a super PG, I’m not super excited for his new superteam.  No takebacks!  Rose is just so blah – even though the minutes went up last year, the AST went down, the FG% – while going up a smidge – remained a travesty at 42.7% given he only made 0.7 treys, FT volume was at a career-low, and the TO are just too high with no D stats to back it up.  He didn’t even make it onto BBMonster’s top 188 in per-game!  But alas, a Pts+Ast combo is tough to find as you near #100, and maybe after a few seasons off the major injuries, he can get those dimes to creep back to 6ish and the FT volume can come back with more faith in his knees.

95. Rodney Hood, Utah Jazz

Mannnnn, I had trouble with Hood.  Every time I was like, “ya know what, that looks pretty good!” I ended up not quite able to raise him.  Hood finished 95th in per-game last year (coincidence, I swear!) for a breakthrough sophomore campaign.  The 2 treys were sexy as was the 2.2-2.5 FT for 86% freebie clip, but he was only 0.9/0.2 in Stl/Blk and I don’t love a 2.7:1.9 Ast:TO for a guy that, sad to say, kinda profiles to be a little ThrAGNOFfy.  He has more to his game than your typical ‘NOF, but it’s a slow-pace Utah team with a better point guard, so the dimes might fall a smidge too.  I have a feeling he’ll have a bit of a hype-machine blowing the sails, but I ain’t no sailor!

96. Emmanuel Mudiay, Denver Nuggets

Like a bad sushi roll, we knew he was raw and we knew it would be…  mushy?  I dunno, something where it was bad, but didn’t give you diarrhea.  Although if anyone reached for him seeing a crazy rookie season, they mighta Oops I Crapped My Pants!  He’s a horrific drain on FG% and TO, but he did end 15-16 strong going 16.5/3.8/4.9/0.6/0.4 hitting 1.7 treys and shooting 40.8% over the final 22 games, both well higher than his season-long numbers.  He did average 5.5 AST overall so the dimes went down, but his AST:TO was 4.9:2.7 in that span to 5.8:3.4 in the first 46.  Not dramatic, but I think he found a little niche as a scorer and let some of the other guys snatch up the dimes.  Let our boys Nikola Jokic and Jusuf Nurkic get the big man dimes!  So I have some optimism in that regard, but he would still be a low-AST PG with a horrible FG% if so.  Rose Jr.?

97. Joakim Noah, Chicago Bulls

Ya know, I think he could actually be a pretty big surprise in 16-17.  Sadly, it’s no surprise his shoulders won’t stay in their sockets, and his razor never makes it out of the closet.  Injuries, injuries, injuries for the Goromotaro, but at least he finds himself back with Rose and on a team that will need interior passing.  His ugly-ass, side-winder shot failed his FG and FT %s last year – FT% didn’t used to be a drain though – so maybe he can right those ships and gets his boards and blocks with 4-5 dimes.  I’m not holding out hope for much more than 60 games though.

98. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Detroit Pistons

Mmmmmm, KCP addiction time!  Lorrrrrd I love me some KCP.  I’ll do whatever it takes to get a sweet hit, including what JJ Redick is doing in that picture…   Anywho, KCP finished 86th in per-game last year and I think he’s at about his ceiling right now.  He played an absurd 36:41 in 15-16, and StanVan has already come out and said he’s likely going to scale him back in run.  And a lot of what KCP accrues is due to the sheer minutes.  Scoring and steals went up, but they were right about what you’d expect with more MPG.  While his FG% went up tp 42.0%, the treys dropped to a disappointing 1.5 per.  He did make 3.0 per in the playoffs in a really solid showing despite getting swept, but I think he’s locked in as Avery Bradley-lite, a full round+ later.

99. Greg Monroe, Milwaukee Bucks

I guess I have to rank him somewhere…  His 43rd per-game rank last year is insanity to me, but 0.9 STL and 0.8 BLK look a lot worse than 1/1 than they should, he has a good FG% guy and only had 1.6 TO.  Problem is, the Bucks HATTTTTE him.  Why sign the dude then?!  Like the Sixers of the midwest, the Bucks hoarded big men over the offseason, drafting Thon Maker and re-signing Miles Plumlee on a big deal.  If Monroe makes it to opening night still on the team, he’s one of your top-5 trade chips at the deadline, and I don’t think any situation he would go to would be nearly as ideal as a Milwaukee-showcase.  It could start fairly strong with him replicating last year’s line, but I REALLY worry about how he finishes in the pivotal playoffs.

100. Justise Winslow, Miami Heat

Well, as you may have noticed, I don’t have Bosh ranked yet…  I just can’t do it, it’s too scary at this point, despite the “news” the Heat owner probably just willy-nilly said he looks forward to seeing Bosh at camp after looking at a Bosh-posted workout video.  Get real, the owner isn’t a doctor!  And unless Bosh can avoid flying during an NBA season – both his really scary blood clot issues were after flights (but I’m no doctor, so I dunno!) – I just can’t rank him yet.  Oh yeah, this is about Winslow!  Justise is blind to position, but figures to play some stretch-PF sans-Bosh.  Pat Riley did say Justise would be starting at SF, but either way now, the role looks to be there.  Winslow had some of your typical rookie struggles for a one-and-doner – low FG%, bad 3PT% and a bad FT%.  We knew the FT would be an issue coming out of school, but at least he kept the volume low.  Encouraging to me is the 1.2 TO and 0.9 STL he put up.  You’d expect him to get some swats as well in a full role, and hopefully get a little more aggressive for a better FT volume at 75ish %.  He certainly looked like he fit in the NBA as a bulldog-type with his build, so I think he could be a nice surprise over a full season of 33-34 mins.

 

Top-100 – in the books!  100 more to go…  Mannnn, ranks take some time to put together!  Here’s to hoping we can get through all 200 by the end of next week.  No promises!  Shoot your thoughts below on who was left out or who is way too high, and happy offseason Razzball Nation!

  1. Chris Mumford says:
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    Great rankings so far.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Chris Mumford: Thanks so much man, appreciate ya dropping by!

  2. kai says:
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    Whoa, fantasy basketball?? Content?!?! September??????
    Love be the rankins so far, the only one I don’t understand is Nurkic…love the man, but I don’t see the playin time, and he has an abysmal fg% for a big because he’s constantly chucking hook shots when he should just dunkic. I also have Josh Richardson in this thraganof pile around 90. Spo isn’t an idiot…Dion won’t hurt rich’s minutes.

    I came here for clarity on Ibaka vs favors in my keeper league and got none! I had been leaning favs because he’s younger and the Orlando frontcourt screams “stay away” to me. (My other three keepers are harden, Kemba, and the Goose). A lot can change in 2 months, but am I leaning the wrong way??

    • Jensen says:
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      @kai: I’d take Favors without much hesitation. I want no part of the orlando frontcourt. I have had Vuc on my keeper team for 4 years and will be dropping him this season. Just not a situation I wan’t to get myself into.

      • Slim

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        @Jensen: I can’t argue with this but if Vucevic was delt would you still go Favors over Ibaka?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @kai: Hah I know right?! What are doing putting this stuff out early?!

          Well, I think the book is still out on FG%. He has a good post game and not like he’s Porzingis shooting jumpers out there. As I mentioned in a comment somewhere, 101-242 FG in a full season I don’t think is enough of a sample, especially off a bad injury. He was 44.6% as a rook.

          I don’t think Spo is an idiot, but I don’t think they play Waiters a good bit. Otherwise I would be right with you on Richardson.

          Yeah@Jensen: @Slim: keeper league, gimme Favors. But redraft, I have them back to back and feel Ibaka is safer. And sure, I have Vuc a good bit behind both, he can def go if he’s not a value in a keeper!

        • Jensen says:
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          @Slim: @Slim: If he were traded before the season I would consider it, but I feel I have better value than what I will get from him as a part of a 4 man rotation at PF/C.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Jensen: 4 man rotation?

    • Slim

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      @kai: It’s tough… Favors back is a major concern. I don’t know if I can help at all. All I’d say is that once you choose, don’t look back…

      I wish I could get JB to rank Josh Richardson higher. The kid is so good. He’s a special defender and his 3pt shot continues to get better and better. I’ve got him at 30 min and I too have ZERO fear of Waiters forcing him lower. I think Josh is going to be what people were hoping from Danny Green last year when they drafted him in the 4th round. I would be shocked if Richardson finishes outside the top 100, with 30 minutes I’m not sure it’s even possible.

      Yeah Nurkic is one of those guys that you see the talent and you know someday it’s going to all come together and it’s going to be special. Maybe it isn’t this year but he’s coming into the year healthy and in great shape. Yes the FG% isn’t quite on par with other bigs but a healthy offseason is a big deal to me. If he has a big preseason his stock is going to go through the roof!

      • JB Gilpin

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        @kai: @Slim: Lotttttts of reports coming out Waiters is likely to start at SG. Riley said Winslow at SF. Of course, if no Bosh, shift em over and J-Rich can start. He’ll be ranked soon, but Waiters signing was too annoying. And you know I don’t like Waiters.

        Nurk for 2018 MVP??!?!?!!

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: Waiters can start and I’m still not convinced Richardson is sub 30 minutes. I see Winslow getting a lot of his run at PF again (even if Bosh plays). The Heat are defense 1st and Richardson is their best defender of the 1-3. The Heat are lacking 3pt shooting. Richardson is their best 3pt shooter, at least he was after the allstar break last year. Hell he had the best 3pt percent in the league after the allstar break (53%). There is a lot of shots gone with Wade and Deng out of the picture and I think Richardson is going to be the biggest beneficiary. He only had 7.5 shots per game in 29 post ASB minutes. I think that gets closer to 10 which puts his points closer to 13 or so and I feel like all this is based on him not even growing as a player which he definitely did. His summer league numbers were good but the one that stands out the most was the 4.67 assists. If he can get that into the 3-4 per game range along with the 2/1+/1 3s/stl/blk per game he’s going to end top 50 with very little effort. Yeah yeah yeah REL bias, Heat bias, whatever, it happens.

        • Nick says:
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          @JB Gilpin:
          With those reports though comes reports of richardsons minutes being safe as they would shift him to SF if they go super small with Winslow at the 4. I have to agree with slim, Richardson is going to be good and id bet on him finishing in the top 100 over Winslow, but I guess we’ll just have to see

        • kai says:
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          @JB Gilpin: the waiters signing is annoying, but from a team mgmt standpoint, it doesn’t make sense to play him. here’s what they invested in their guards:

          Dragic $20 million, will obv get his minutes
          Tyler Johnson $12 million 4 years, seems likely to be primary backup PG w some SG minutes
          Richardson – 3 year rookie deal – good for a 2nd rounder, and as Slim notes, has skills that don’t overlap with Johnson or Dragic
          Waiters – a 1 year contract with a player option for the 2nd year. even if waiters plays ok, he’s outta there after a year.

          every incentive should point to healthy minutes for Richardson. I’m not spending $20 on him, but I expect to own him in every one of my leagues.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Slim: @Nick: @kai: Lord you guys are making it sound like I don’t like Richardson! I raved about him last year, owned him in several leagues to close it out.

            I don’t see an AST output like that, especially with people slamming me on Dragic too. And Tyjo is gonna play backup PG and I think get dimes there. Definitely dunno on the blocks. And 2 3s seems rich – on other comments you just slammed Lavine for a high-40s% 3PT%, Richardson was 53.3!!!!!!!! post ASB. So apparently he’s a better 3pt shooter than Curry…

            kai – you’re thinking too logically haha. Teams love to make weird decisions. Also, if it works, they hit a HR and can trade Waiters. I don’t think being on a cheap deal really matters for playing time.

            All this said, and Richardson is in the 200s in Yahoo and 9% owned – sure it’s useless data this early, but I have him 103. I think even at that rank, I’ll be well higher on him than most.

  3. Jensen says:
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    Woah! Not sure I agree with Hill being twenty picks behind the Jackson/Schroder/Teague/Payton group. Honestly I think his numbers get a little bump going to Utah.

    • Slim

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      @Jensen: I don’t see a whole lot of difference with the change of scenery for Hill. At his best he’s an off the ball shooter. Hayward has the ball in his hands a fair amount, Hood has been used in that respect too, Burks should be back and he dominates the ball. I’ll give a slight uptick probably, but not all the way to his 14-15 numbers. He would need Hayward to go down, like PG13 did to get back there.

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        @Jensen: @Slim: Burks is a good point, should he and Hill play together much. But yeah, the 14-15 numbers (16.1/4.2/5.1/1.0/0.3 with 1.6 steals) already seems behind that tier of PG, and that was on a lackluster Pacers team with no George as Slim mentioned. I see safety, but not much upside.

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          @JB Gilpin: hmmm, idk. I guess i like what I’ve gotten from Hill in the past and I know he’s going to chip in across the board. Schroder and Payton didn’t show me anything last year to make me think they are going to make a jump, and most of their numbers were worse than Hill’s last year. If you were really needing AST i could see Payton over Hill but that is about the only area I see him as a better contributor. If he gets back to almost 2 stl/game that would be nice but I don’t see it.

          • kai says:
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            @Jensen:

            the benefit of Schoder, and to a lesser extent Payton, is that they’re both in situations where they could see a huge minutes boost. If that happens, then their value could be much higher. compare last year’s per 36 #s:
            http://bkref.com/tiny/1pLEQ

            Payton and Schroder nearly double Hill’s assists and each collected ~33% steals…if they had gotten the minutes. each has significant flaws (%s and TOs, especially), but given that they’re 22 years old, one should expect steeper improvement, while Hill will be lucky to sustain last year’s #s on the slower-paced jazz.

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          @JB Gilpin: I’ll be interested to see Slim’s projections. Payton and Schroder would need to be in for a pretty substantial bump for them to beat out what Hill has been doing the past 4 years. Both of them seem to be in line for a higher ball handling duty but both are going to have very clogged lanes (Vuc/Ibaka and Howard/Milsap) and neither can shoot well.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Jensen: @kai: @Jensen: Yeah I dunno why the pessimism for either. Schroder is going to MASSIVELY out score and ast Hill. Elfrid could easily get to 2 steals again with the PT. Remember, no more SKIIIILES!

            Disagree on Schroder not being a good shooter. He’s not great, but he’s gonna hit 3s at least. Elfrid – yeah FG% is bad for not being a good enough perimeter guy, I’m hoping the STL make up for it.

            How is either of those “clogged lanes”? Both Ibaka and Millsap are shooters…

  4. jay says:
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    This is awesome! Love the early content!

    Been pushing an early draft in my league (really for my own selfish reasons) as I think Yahoo will come around to update rankings (D’Angelo R., Fournier, etc) in a couple of weeks.

    Looked at A. Bradley’s and Fournier’s stats from last yr. Not sure 20 spots is warranted between them. Then I looked at the players in between and outside of Jeremy Lin (really knit picking as 5 spots at this range is really silly) and maybe Bradley Beal, I don’t see how A. Bradley ranks above those. I know the upside for Beal yada yada but I think upside vs injury risk (and for him it’s real and manifested year in and yr out) cancels each other out. I dunno, maybe boring slow summer news from Wall does get him fired up. Hopefully not too fired up that he gets inj a lot sooner.

    Wes Matthews–Wondering if the fact that during those couple of years in Portland he was a beneficiary of the attention defenses paid to LA and then LA+Lillard. A lot less contested shots then maybe as thus better FG%? I dunno, rarely watched Blazers and Mavericks games the past 3 seasons to tell.

    Good to know though that if somewhere in the middle to late middle rounds and I’d need to shore up the 3 & D stats I’d have these 4–Fournier/Beal/Bradley/Matthews– to choose from.

    • Slim

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      @jay: I think Fournier has more upside as a scorer than Bradley. I think Bradley’s 15 PPG is probably his ceiling considering his running mates, IT.666 especially. Fournier could very well lead Orlando in scoring. So I think there’s a bit more “upside” in Fournier’s game. With that said though Bradley might get more assists this year with Turner out of town, although more offense should run through Horford so that might just be a push. Tough to say. I think a healthy Beal is the best player of these options but yeah, I’d rather have the other 2 for the safety.

      I think Wes will probably be OK, he came on pretty slow last year. I have him a tick below those others cause I don’t think the steals come back for the soon to be 30 year old.

      Yeah this is why I tend to ignore early round wings, especially those that don’t give 4+ assists. There’s no shortage later on and they basically all give 3s. So I target the ones either for steals or for FG% help. I love you Gary Harris!

      • JB Gilpin

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        @jay: @Slim: Appreciate it man, thanks for dropping by!

        Hah yeah Beal needs to stay healthy… Luckily he brings some AST upside and I feel a smidge better with the injury risk knowing the Wizards re-signed him. They know what they’re dealing with injuries wise more than anyone else, so I guess they fell OK with the risk.

        I don’t think too much of his output was that, really all NBA teams are going to have enough NBA skills to be able to kick out and shoot 3s. Now, if he was more his own creator or facilitator and those went down, then I would be scared.

        Yup lots of wings available, I think Slim is a little needy wanting 4+ dimes from the mid-range ones though! I like one or two as glue guys. But it’s why we ThrAGNOF – threes ain’t got no face! But Harris might not ain’t get not role! My English no good…

        Yeah Bradley is at clear peak to me, with Fournier having huge upside. Agree with Slim, healthy Beal is prob the best, but a little more safety of Fournier had him a few higher.

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          @JB Gilpin: @Slim: Thanks for the replies and makes sense.

          More worried about Barton and Wilson Chandler’s role than I am of Gary Harris. I think unless Mudiay shows dramatic improvement as a PG, no way Malone goes with Mudiay and Jamal Murray.

          I think Wilson Chandler gonna get traded. Salary isn’t crazy with cap increasing. Can see NO as potential destination.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @jay: Any time! Yeah I definitely don’t disagree – they should trade Chandler, but easier said than done. NO would indeed be an awesome fit. But again, you’re thinking too logic for an illogical NBA! Haha

  5. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    I missed the Top 75 post so I’ll throw my comments for that in here, with my usual pro-Raptors slant, haha.

    Do you think that maybe in a couple season Andrew Wiggins will be as good as DeMar DeRozan? Maybe? If he works really hard at it? Haha. I remember some discussions on here the last couple years Wiggins/Lebron, as well as comparing those Wiggins/DeRozan, and Wiggins has yet to compare…

    I’m still trying to recover from your Jonas rank JB. He was 52nd per game last year in just 26 minutes, but he’s ranked 65? This despite Biz leaving and a rookie being his backup now. Despite his impressive showing in the playoffs last year, including more minutes and trust from the coach before getting injured. He was hands-down their best player in the post season and it wasn’t really close until he got injured and Biz stepped up. I know I’m still going to expect more than Casey will let him accomplish but, with that said, come on now! He beat this rank last year, he beat it the year before last, and he will beat it again this year. I mean, you put Darren Collison above him. Darren F’n Collison! 🙂

    Since it’s almost REL time I’ll throw out that you’ve now ranked almost my entire REL team! Where’s WCS and Mozgov already, lol. I can’t express enough how excited I am to see Aaron Gordon continue to grow at SF and how un-excited I am at the prospect of Philly not trading on of Noel/Okafor. Just do it already! If they don’t deal one I’m going to be sooooo confused at what in the hell they are doing there.

    For this set of rankings, I’ll jump on the “where is Josh Richardson” bandwagon. Kid looks very good and has a real opportunity this season. Also, I’m jumping on board that Luol Deng is going to be criminally underrated this year. I’ll take some of that!

    Keep pumping out those ranks guys!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Ugh. Thanks for that. Although I will say Yahoo has Wiggins WAY HIGHER than me this year!

      Sure, but in… how many games? And then you said trust in him in the playoffs until…? Yeah it’s just risky is all. I dunno if he beat my rank in 13-14 when I went nuts for him! He still was decent though… Well, until Collison is suspended for like 10+ games, yeah gimme the PG over the metrics-friendly, low counting stats C!

      Ugh, yeah thanks for the REL update too, jerk. You and High as Greg Kite. Scary teams.

      As painful as it is to a smart fantasy basketball community, Waiters is gonna play. Hate to say it…

      At least we’re both good on Deng! Haha.

      Wait, you have Blue Jays to attend to!

      • A Hill O' Beans says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah, Yahoo is crazy with that 49 ranking after what we’ve seen for the past two years. Your rank is much more realistic.

        For Jonas he only played 60 games last year thanks to the thumb injury, and got injured again in the playoffs twisting his ankle, I’ll give you that. He actually had the same hand injury essentially in his rookie year which cost him 18 games there. It’s not like he’s injury prone though, he played 80 games in 14/15 plus playoffs, and 81 in 13/14 plus playoffs.

        I think they find a way to get Richardson enough minutes that he ends up somewhere in the top 100. Assuming you have him coming up sometime soon outside the top 100 I can’t quibble.

        And yeah, we’re good on most of your ranks, including your entire top 7 I think. I will say, did you ever think that you’d be ranking Rajon Rondo just ahead of Wiggins and Turner, haha. Damn fantasy basketball and it’s lack of available assists outside the top 50, eh?

        As for the Jays, today’s an off day so I’m shifting to REL Football/Basketball. How about those insane REL football prices? WTF?!?!?!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @A Hill O’ Beans: Well, sure, he played enough games, but playoffs don’t count for us! Plus he got through those games in the 26 minutes, not in 33-34 minutes like JV pundits want.

          Yup 103 I think is where I have him, working on those now, still tweaking.

          Hahahaha, yeah Rondo… Sigh. Great bounce back for him. Need the AST though, the PG pool is just tooooo shallow as you said.

          Yeah man, Derrick Henry for $37!!!!!! He’s the main target I had by far, and didn’t even think I’d get him. Prosise I think went for $30!!! Nuts. I was so lucky Henry got nommed 2nd

    • Slim

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Yeah Wiggins at 20 years old was significantly better than DeRozan at 20. Kinda scary to think how good he’ll be at 26. Although if Wiggins had JV/PatPat around instead of KAT/Gorgui it would probably be better faster just from a USG standpoint.

      Yeah metrics guys are just no fun. JV or Gortat? Yeah i think they are pretty similar. Although JV at 76% FTs makes his metrics look a smidge better. Still pretty yawn inspiring though.

      • A Hill O' Beans says:
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        @Slim: Wiggins definitely has immense raw talent, no question there. His upside is WAY higher than DeRozan. Sort of off topic but, I think they should make kids stay in college a minimum of 2 years before they can be drafted. Right now they come in to the NBA and they know how to do almost anything in transition, but have no idea how to play defence, how to shoot from outside, how to play as a team, how to play in a half court set, and so on. Either that or they need to make some adjustments to the college game to start teaching them these things. I’m not sure how much you could do though since they’re only there for one season. That and NBA execs are like fantasy basketball owners (see next paragraph).

        Anyway, yeah, nobody likes to draft the metrics guys (and nobody gets a $20M contract offer because they know how to shoot efficiently). There’s no flash, no pizzazz. I’ll take them at a discount though and not think twice most of the time. Give me JV over Gortat, though I agree it’s close. I do think JV is on his way up while Gortat is on his way down though.

        What’s the saying, slow and steady wins the race…

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: @A Hill O’ Beans: Rooks don’t unless they’re KAT! Or Porzingis! Maybe they could come in after 1 year if they played in Euro ball haha.

          Oh definitely JV is going up with Gortat down, but I think there’s a little more safety with Gortat which is why he’s only 2 behind. Upside obviously is there for JV/.

  6. Lasandro says:
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    Naaaw a post on my birthday? You shouldn’t have! I’ll read it now, cheers xo

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Lasandro: Happy birthday to Las! Have a drink on me!

    • Lasandro says:
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      @JB Gilpin: A body-shot off JB… uh, sure! Anything goes at 33!

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        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Lasandro: Haha and you can make it a double with my size!

  7. kai says:
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    just looked at yahoo for the first time and am bugging at otto porter at 36

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      @kai: Hahahaha glad you saw that. That’s who I mentioned in the open. I almost had him 90s, but his big spike last year was when Beal was hurt, then he was unusable a lot of the time… That was sooooo weird! I imagine that’ll be one in their first big round of fixes.

      • jay says:
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        @JB Gilpin: @JB Gilpin: That and

        a) Fournier @ 215
        b) Crowder @ 186

        ESPN updated their rankings. KAT to #3. GSW boys fall to 4 &5

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          @kai: @jay: Hahahahaha that is unbelievable. You’d HAVE to think someone should QA this! Hmmm, interesting ESPN. Curry not #1 I could quibble with, 4 or 5 is a travesty

        • Slim

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          @jay: Rotoworld seems to think Crowder is coming down to 28-30 minutes this year and losing quite a bit of USG to Horford and even the rookie. I think Crowder is an easy avoid inside the top-50 and probably closer to #75 overall than #50. Minutes came down to that point late last year (but he was injured) and he wasn’t very good in the playoffs (not a single game shooting over 40%). And of course not enough assists to be drafted in the 4th round.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Slim: Where you see that? I def don’t buy it, I would say 31 is the floor, no way that rookie is going to push him. Crowder is a great wing defender, good boarder. I don’t see him losing run.

            Yeah injuries, never played through a grind of that many minutes, and he was playing on a really fucked up ankle in the playoffs, I’m not weighing that.

          • kai says:
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            @Slim:
            Wasn’t Crowder recovering from an injury (kankle?) in the playoffs? not that a 6 game sample size should lead us to conclude anything about shooting anyway.

          • kai says:
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            @Slim:
            15-16:
            Sullinger USG 22%
            Horford USG 20%

            Crowder’s shots should still be there

          • Lasandro says:
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            @Slim: Oooh Slimbo Slice, you may be alone on this one bud haha. Crowder is such a cerebral player that Stevens loves so bloody much. I see him affected the way Dray will be by the KD signing: minimally.

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              @JB Gilpin: @kai: @Lasandro: The minutes part isn’t me. That’s Rotoworlds Ethan Norof. The outside top-50 part though is certainly me, even if he gets 32 minutes. His stats are so easy to find later it’s just pointless to draft so high. There is ZERO chance I pass on Gordon Hayward for Crowder. I also don’t draft guys for help in TOs, I guess it’s a category too but against a bad team you’re going to lose it anyway and most good counting stats teams are high TO teams also. I guess if I was punting assists I would like Crowder more, but it isn’t a category I like to punt. Which also means no way am I missing out on that 4th round PG run, I think JB has the big PG run about 10 picks too low and waiting till the 5th is going to be too risky. By the 5th I want my 3rd PG. I have no issue waiting for an Otto Porter or Gary Harris instead of going for a barely top-100 PG like Rose or Mudiay. OCan just wait for DeMarre, or Richardson, or Hood, or KCP, or Deng, or Thad, or Bazemore, or Bradley, or Clarkson, or Wesley Matthews, or or or…

              • Slim

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                @Slim: Oh and I think Lin and Hill are going to be 5th round PGs not 7th like JB ranked them.

                • Lasandro says:
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                  @Slim: I certainly agree with you re: Lin, here. I get his stls and 3s may be lower than some, but his FT volume and decent %s due to his solid midrange and at-the-basket game are gonna be nice. I can’t really forecast his TOs but the upside is there, no doubt. He was so good last season.

            • Ryan says:
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              @Lasandro: Crowder’s minutes are definitely safe. Brad loves him to death for his defensive versatility.

              RW is full of schlubs who don’t do research or even watch the games.. If they did, they’d know about his injury and also know he was on a minutes restriction during that span! It was kinda miraculous that he was able to come back that soon after a high-ankle sprain.

              Slim is just looking for a reason to hate on the metrics guys 🙂

              I don’t disagree with him in saying that someone like Hayward would be far more valuable in most builds, but I also think Crowder WILL be worth a top-40 pick to some teams.

              • Lasandro says:
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                @Ryan: Agree with you, mate. I listen to the RW pods regularly because.. why not? And each time they mention burning a late 2nd/3rd round pick to get Jokic, I cringe and baby Jesus sheds a tear. What exactly are these “professionals” watching?

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                  @kai: @kai: @Lasandro: @Slim: @Ryan: @Lasandro: “Burn” a pick for Jokic that early?! Yikkkkkes. I mean, I was surprised to like Jokic as much as I did, but that’s going insane.

                  Re: Hayward vs. Crowder. Hayward also is gonna have bad FG%, less 3s, and the AST aren’t that great for Hayward! 3.7 is fine, but it’s trending down with a better PG now.

                  Re: Not drafting for TO – in non-competitive leagues, sure I agree with your point there. But against a smart league i.e. the better RCLs, getting Crowder’s production with 1.1 TO is really valuable.

                  Also I don’t think you’re giving Crowder any upside. Hard to believe this was his first starting season. Maybe 2.0 treys? Few more points? Could happen!

  8. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    I know you’re not a fan of Collison because of his off the court antics JB, rightfully so. What are your thoughts on Derrick Rose? Would you draft him even if he fell? Have you seen the transcripts from his civil rape case? They do not paint him in a flattering light at all.

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Yeah I just read through it. Disturbing. But it sounds like something that will drag along in the legal process for a while, I doubt we get much out of it this year. Also, I’ve seen there’s a lot of legal stuff that seems to make this sound like it’ll be hard to convict Rose, but I don’t really know.

      I do know that I like to cheer for my fantasy teams individually, which is a different attitude to compiling year-long ranks. I don’t see myself drafting Rose or Collison this year.

      • A Hill O' Beans says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah I don’t think they’ll be on any of my teams. Whatever happened to the whole Mike Scott drug thing? It just kind of faded away it seems.

      • Lasandro says:
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        @JB Gilpin @A Hill O’ Beans: The court ordered Scott to remove some of his tatts. He opted for jail time instead.

        I keed I keed.

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          @A Hill O’ Beans: @Lasandro: The court ordered his happy emojis all be altered to be frowny and crying emojis.

  9. MJC says:
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    Yo, for a keeper/dynasty league, what round would you look to draft Simmons? We keep 3 so starting in the 4th round basically. No cost and keep forever if you want.
    Thanks for any input

    • JB Gilpin

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      @MJC: Hmmmm. I’m not sure what his ceiling really is. Maybe 6th round at the earliest?!

  10. Slim

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    I kinda wish Sullinger made the top 100. He had great stretches last year and he should definitely improve on his minutes away from Brad Stevens.

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      @Slim: Idk if the Raps brought in any more big men, but I have to think that he will get more PT regardless. Ya know, cuz Brad always had to give Zeller his 7 minutes..

      But will Sully be able to handle the stress of running for 30 minutes? Has Kyle Lowry shown him the ways of offseason fitness? Stay tuned for the next episode of The Biggest Loser. (Love ya Sully!)

      • Lasandro says:
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        @Ryan @Slim: If the Celts’ training staff taught Sully anything, it’s that sucking in your gut results in weight loss. He’ll be fine!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: @Ryan: @Lasandro: Mehhhhh, I’ve just never been fully comfortable with ranking him, he’s just so inconsistent and never got the full run – yes Casey might make that better…

          HOW DARE YOU FORGET ABOUT THE ROAD BLOCK THAT IS PATRICK PATTERSON!

          Yeah having a stretch 4 to hit 3s… Sully is gonna take a ton. Which is kinda the rub – he was awful out there last year, perimeter game took a big step back. Too many red flags for me to get him quite there, but close. Like I would rather Matt Barnes I think…

  11. M Moss says:
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    love the rankings. awesome work

    Been offered the Brow and Schroeder for my Griffin and Aaron Gordon. in a deep dynasty. take or leave it ?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @M Moss: Thanks so much! Wowwwwww, yeah I’m taking that! Brow>Griffin Schroder>Gordon. Keep forever with no penalty though, right?

  12. KEN says:
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    another blow to the PG depth with the holiday news. where do u guys think he drops in your ranks?
    also, we all know jb ranks/draftboard, slim which BIG are u bullish in the 25-60 range? as i can see it right now, il get my elite big either in the first round (KAT, DAVIS) or second round (DJ, DRUM) then go PG or WING that gives great asst up to round 5. looking for a big next in the round 6 range.
    i do like to categorize kawhi, kd, giannis as bigs coz of their blks.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @KEN: Uggghhh, yeah feel bad for him, for the Pels, for fantasy… No winners. Def to that PG run I have early 50s. Maybe even a tad lower, but I’ll give it some time to simmer before adjusting.

      Slim LOOOVVVEEEESSS Nurk. I do too, but Slim LOVVVVVVES him haha. I know he still likes Favors, which I do as well, but it’s just back injury risk.

      • MAC says:
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        @JB Gilpin: yeah man, really loved holiday as early as mid 30s. i have to drop him below the teague conley jackson schroeder level PG. as much as i like his upside, he was already an injury risk to start with.

        love nurk as well, just not inside 75. thats basically round 6. id gladly get whomever big drop there (jonas, gortat, noel, vucevic) or even myles turner ahead of nurk. i do like favors as well, but drafting him means ur passing up a PG or 4 plus assist wing. favors stats can be had round 6 onwards, especially put ft bigs.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @MAC: All sounds about right to me, I think if Favors can stay healthy, he can be a surprise with his steals and scoring, which is why he’s still easily top 50 for me, but yeah, I might not be heavily invested

  13. Lasandro says:
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    So you’d rather JJ, Hood and Wes over Korver this season? I kinda feel like he may get even more open looks this season with Dwight in there.. Surely he’s gotta be a bounceback candidate. I’d feel a lil more inclined to pick him over JJ, what with his metric-whoring ways. Wes is nice but does he bring those stls to the table anymore?

    Of course, I’d pick Covington over all these fools but that’s entirely dependent on how much Brown plays him. He HAS to have him out there to stretch the O.. it wouldn’t make any sense playing him less that 32 min per. He may be in for a nice year if Simmons truly evolves into a good playmaker. Also, where’s Gary Harris on this list? Yeah that DEN team is a little crowded, but as @Slim rightfully points out, Malone LOVES his D and he is just so solid on offense. He has to be a more valuable contributor than some of the guys towards the end of your list.

    Meanwhile, just listening to a SF breakdown on the Rotoworld pod and one of the hosts is legit discussing how close Wes and Parsons are as fantasy options. Oh and they’re not even bothering to talk about Deng because he’s old… do these fools even know which team he’s playing for and how there’s just no one else on that squad outside of their backcourt to score the ball?? He’s still so damn capable, as illustrated by his post-ASB/Bosh numbers.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Lasandro: Hah glad you mentioned him. He was right on the bubble, then I looked at his stats, and even in his much better year in 14-15, it was all about the %s handling the 3PTA. When the 3s didn’t fall at that crazy %, his overall value tanked.

      Agree no steals for Wes, but I think he has more scoring and 3PT volume upside. Same with JJ and Hood.

      Sure Harris is “safe” but I just hate all their wings and just don’t see a ton of upside. I dunno, I’m not as enamored there.

      Whaaaaaaaa?! Haha yeah Parsons is soooo much higher. And yup, love Deng as kinda that unflashy pick at 90 haha. Hope he falls to me!

  14. MAC says:
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    RAZUP!!!

    yo jb, got to back out on your early draft rcl. cant make it in the draft. can u get me some heads up on your next league? tnx!!!

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      @MAC: Will do man! Sorry you couldnt make this one!

      • MAC says:
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        @JB Gilpin: tnx man!!! was already iffy if i can make it on tym for the draft, then something came up. atleast got to tell you earlier. hehe. anyways, was the champ last season on ur early draft rcl, couldnt make it back to back! just sayin. ha! would really like to be part of another rcl league. hit me up! u got my email???

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @MAC: Yup I appreciate it! We’ll have ya in JB RCL 2 🙂 Yeah I have the email which you comment on, and I’ll shoot you a comment somewhere a few days before so you’ll have time 🙂

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            @JB Gilpin: tnx man!!!

  15. MAC says:
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    RAZZUP?!!!

    thoughts guys on going wall lowry at the turn or even james, wall/lowry. obviuosly, an ideal pair would be a PG BIG, but taking green at the turn seems too early. i have green over millsap and horford, so both i wouldnt want there. dont like cuzins and whiteside. i actually have DJ DRUM over them in my ranks, as id rather punt ft. reasoning here is, getting 2 second tier PG while looking at 36 37 turn, 1 of DJ DRUM GOBERT would be avail there. thoughts?

    so basically, would you rather have
    wall bledsoe DJ
    wall lowry gobert

    the thing is theres a chance u can get DJ at the 36 37 turn.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @MAC: Whazzzzzzzzzzzup?! Wow, staying that high on Dray huh? I have no issue going LeBron Lowry. I dunno if I would do Wall, you don’t get many 3s, you become a TO punt, and Wall brings the FG% down too much for not enough 3s for me. Whiteside Wall is pretty sexy though, I know you don’t like Whiteside tho…

      I know DJ won’t last that long in RCLs! But of those, I think I like the Lowry one, as you could still punt FT if the picks come your way, or you could veer off it if not.

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        @JB Gilpin: im with slim, pretty much dont like old guys. green, sap, horf are pretty close, and id go green of the three. which taking him at the turn seems too early now that kd is with gsw.

        dont mind any 2 of lbj, wall, lowry at the turn. 3s can be had late, u guys have name for them. hehe. yeah, i have DJ, DRUM, WHITE, CUZ in my ranks. not yet sold on whiteside. just got paid, theres still risk for me how he will perform after that and the fact that he has history regardng his character. also might be a tad injury prone compared to DJ and DRUM. PO sched vs DJ is not good as well. yup, in a RCL league DJ and DRUM has little chance going back to you at 36 37 turn, but gobert there as a consolation is not bad. or even a favors, i dont mind as my 1st big.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @MAC: I still like Sap. I’m with you on Horf though, plus Boston plays wonkier rotations.

          Def am hoping Favors wouldn’t end up being my first big due to injury concerns, but I guess then you’d be taking big men only for the next 4 rounds or so and could load up, might work!

  16. kenny says:
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    I love the rankings and appreciate the content. Considering I’m doing 9 cat roto, I was curious about your take on my first draft. What holes do I have? I was trying to draft highest value every round. Thanks in advance.

    1. (5) Karl-Anthony Towns C
    2. (20) Kyle Lowry PG
    3. (29) Kemba Walker PG
    4. (44) Gorgui Dieng PF,C
    5. (53) Nikola Jokic C
    6. (68) Nicolas Batum SG,SF
    7. (77) Avery Bradley PG,SG
    8. (92) Evan Fournier SG,SF
    9. (101) Jae Crowder SF,PF
    10. (116) D’Angelo Russell PG
    11. (125) Julius Randle PF
    12. (140) Alex Len PF,C
    13. (149) Dario Saric PF

    notable free agents: Smart, Lee, Barton, Winslow, Hollas-Jefferson

    • JB Gilpin

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      @kenny: Thanks man! Thanks for reading!

      Whoa, this is a ridiculous team. Ummmm, Crowder 101 in ROTO?!?!?!? This team is ridiculous. About all I see is maybe PTS and FG% maybe needing little boosts as you go. I’d probably take Winslow over Saric as your beck end guy too. Awesome draft! A lot of Razzball favorites on there (Dieng, Jokic)

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