With the full 2014-15 Fantasy Basketball Rankings now complete, let’s take a look at the double digit rounds.  The debate over Scrub A or Scrub B.  We don’t want no scrubs!  Well, play in a shallower league then!  People say you win your leagues in the later rounds.  I don’t know who these people are, but they’re probably jaded after drafting Derrick Rose in the 2nd round last year.  Where’s the violins?!  What I would say, is if you hit on one guy in the late rounds with 30th or 40th overall value, you’re set.  75% of your last picks are probably going to be drops.  So 75% of your late picks will be passes to Brandon LaFell.  Wrong sport!  Still bitter about how bad he was… Go Kelvin Benjamin!  Aka my favorite Panther.  Stay focused!  Here’s my top 150 for the 2014-15 Fantasy Basketball Season (based on 9-cat H2H):

101. John Henson, Milwaukee Bucks – Larry Drew shall haunt us no more!  Early, early reports are saying he’ll start, which would make me happier than a Brewers NL Central title (I jinxed it – especially with how they’re doing lately)!  As a starter last year, 13.3/8.5/2/0.5/2.  Dem fighting numbers!  Given that was in only 23 games, since Larry Drew has less of a Clue than Professor Plum…  If the news holds up he starts, he moves into the early 90s at the least.

102. Andrew Bogut, Golden State Warriors – It’s always surprising when you look up and see Bogut finished as high as he does.  58th in total value and 51st in per game last year.  Big boards given his smallish minutes, nice blocks, and elite – albeit low-volume – FG% make him a solid later round roster comp pick.  Be sure to not have your hopes and dreams crushed when he gets eaten by a dingo though…

103. J.J. Redick, Los Angeles Clippers – It was an injury-riddled season for Dr. Backne, but he was actually 67th in per game last year and was an amazing fit for the Clips’ O.  Despite small sample, actually had a career-best in points and dimes (2.2), along with nearly a steal and two treys giving him sneaky value.  And will be sneaky value again…

104. Spencer Hawes, Los Angeles Clippers – After muddling on the Sixers, it’s easy to see why he took a bench role on a better team!  Hawes was fantastic last year – surprisingly just as useful on the Cavs after the trade – and I see him getting pretty good minutes at PF/C off the bench.  If he indeed gets high-20 minutes, it’ll be a value.

105. Joe Johnson, Brooklyn Nets – I’ve never been a huge JJ fan, but he had a good bounce back in FG% and a good spike when Deron Williams was hurt.  Who I think will get hurt again…

106. Tyson Chandler, Dallas Mavericks – Injuries took their toll on minutes and output in his final NYK stint, but he was still an effective bottom-end big.  The return to Dallas with glowing quotes from GM Donnie Nelson are only good signs.  Nice Reb/Blk pick late.

107. Brandon Jennings, Detroit Pistons – Probably means Jennings won’t be on any of my teams; last year’s debacle has no signs of improving in Stan Van’s defensive/rotations-based scheme.  Still some upside since he’s a good player, but I’m not reaching.

108. Jared Sullinger, Boston Celtics – An under-the-radar breakout when he got run.  Jake Sully was a 13.9/9/1.8/0.5/0.8 guy with 0.8 treys in 44 starts.  Jake Soooooooly!  And in only 29:33 a game!  Give him 34 minutes and he’s pretty close to what I see from sleeper favorite Markieff Morris.  A good bit of upside if he can carve out a consistent role.

109. DeMarre Carroll, Atlanta Hawks – Don’t let this rank fool you into thinking I don’t like Carroll!  I know he was an under-the-radar beast last year with a 48th overall finish, but his pre/post Al Horford injury splits were appalling.  9/5.5/1.6/1.3/0.3 43% FG and a trey in 30 games to 12.6/5.5/2/1.6/0.3 49% FG and 1.5 treys.  OK, so maybe appalling was an overreaction, but so much better afterwards!  Still well be a quality multi-cat guy late.

110. Tobias Harris, Orlando Magic – Oh how the times be changin’!  Harris was my best call in 12-13 when I took over mid-season, and led a ton of my teams into deep playoff runs.  Then, the high ankle sprain happened.  Missed a ton of time last year, and with Channing Frye brought in along with the draft pick of Aaron Gordon, the Magic don’t seem committed to -T (Tobias).  Even in per game, was only 91st overall, but his game is well-suited for fantasy if he gets the run and enough rock.

111. Paul Pierce, Washington Wizards – Despite some peaks and valleys, finished 63rd overall last year.  “THEN WHY DO YOU HATE HIM?!”  Chill out, all caps troll!  Obviously is old, Washington is loaded at SF, I think he’ll have some nice games but some disappearing acts as well.

112. Rodney Stuckey, Indiana Pacers – Reach alert!  Reacharound alert!  I guess a reacharound would warrant an alert… Anyway, George Hill isn’t exactly Chris Paul out there and there’s a huge gaping void of points for the Pacers.  His lack of the 3 ball hurts, but this is probably the best team he’s been on since getting starting minutes, even with it so depleted.

113. Danilo Gallinari, Denver Nuggets – It’s been so long, I had to double-check I spelled his name!  Well-distanced from the ACL tear, still offers big treys, great FT%, a few boards and over 2 dimes and maybe a steal a game.  That’s when I like to scream, “Mama Mia!”

114. Amir Johnson, Toronto Raptors – He’s a good player, but plethora of PF options (like bringing back James Johnson) hurt upside.  69th in overall value in only 29 MPG shows he could be a beast in a big role, but still has a lingering ankle issue and I’m afraid to reach any higher.

115. Jameer Nelson, Dallas Mavericks – This is just a gut feeling.  But Jameer fits the Mavericks PG needs better than Raymond Felton and Devin Harris, who are both equally if not more injury-prone than Nelson.  He’s the only perimeter threat of the three, so could settle into the Jose Calderon role nicely.  It’s a boring sleeper pick because he’s old, but I see the minutes and output surprising a lot of people this year.

116. Josh McRoberts, Miami Heat – I’ve never been the biggest Charlie Day fan, but should carve out a similar role to repeat 13-14 minutes on the Heat.  Which ended up as the 65th overall finish last year – a lot of that weight coming from low TOs.  Solid cat-filler across the board late.

117. Jordan Hill, Los Angeles Lakers – Bryan Scott has said Hill will get good minutes, but we’ll see what “good” means.   As a starter last year in 32 games, 13/8.9/0.8/0.5/1.1 – which while not the most enticing, was still in under 25 minutes a game.  CURSE D’ANTONI!!!!!

118. Roy Hibbert, Indiana Pacers – It won’t be me reaching for him, as last year’s highly-publicized, catastrophic falloff cost a lot of people fantasy glory.  Might offer some bounce back in the blocks which were elite early on in 13-14.

119. Danny Green, San Antonio Spurs – Vastly improved after the All-Star Break, shooting 6% better from the field, improving from 1.5 treys to 2.6 and ended up close to a 1+ 5-cat line.  Ups and downs in Pop’s rotation will be annoying, but if you can bear it will be a value when it’s all done.

120. Jamal Crawford, Los Angeles Clippers – Finished 78th in total value last year, but all sorts of lingering injuries late last year horrifies me.  While he averaged 3.2 dimes last year, he had a big spike in January at 4.6 when Chris Paul was hurt.  Dimes, points, and minutes all to go down.

121. Andre Iguodala, Golden State Warriors – Even with the metric-boost of only 1.6 TOs a game, Iggy finished 110 in overall value last year.  One of my sleeper favorites Draymond Green I see starting, with Iggy leading the second unit.  But he still has Harrison Barnes to fend off for minutes as well.  A pass for me.

122. Mario Chalmers, Miami Heat – Slim and I fought for him as a waiver add for commenters throughout much of last year, and ended up a sneaky 88th overall in total value.  That said, not too enthusiastic even though he has a little more upside with LeBron moving on.

123. Mason Plumlee, Brooklyn Nets – Making splashes for the USA team (even if there are some conspiracy theories), and if he gets a big role will be a huge sleeper.  Yahoo has him 187 right now, which will surely shoot up if he has a big preseason.  Great shot to be a monster multi-cat guy, as his per-36 last year was 14.7/8.7/1.7/1.4/1.6 shooting 66%.

124. Jeff Green, Boston Celtics – Yikes!  Green was one of the ultimate busts last year, teeming with potential that just never translated into production.  Somehow managed to squeeze in a 99th overall finish even though his only special asset was 16.9 PPG.  I think those even come down a bit in a another season of Stevens rebuild.

125. Anderson Varejao, Cleveland Cavaliers – We all know about what to expect from Sideshow Bob, under 30 minutes with huge rebounds and not too much else.  He’s been well over 2 dimes a game the past two seasons – which I see tapering off with BronBron back – but even though he’s not a blocker, will sneak in over a steal per.

126. Nene Hilario, Washington Wizards – His game translates horribly into the metrics, since his horrific FT shooting and high-TOs sink the overall value.  But if you’re punting either one of those – which are the most popular punt cats – he might be worth even a higher reach for his near 1+ 5-cat line and nice dimes from a big.  Would be higher for me, especially since these are H2H ranks, if he wasn’t in the twilight of his career with so many injury issues.

127. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs – Finished 98th in overall value last year, but the minutes and role are receding just like his bald spot!  Somehow got that finish despite playing under 23 minutes a game and should come somewhere close to a similar finish in 14-15.  Pop’s headaches will make him feel less valuable though…

128. P.J. Tucker, Phoenix Suns – Huge breakout from pajamas, finishing 62nd in overall value.  Given he played 81 games which helped, but his lines were consistent even if he didn’t do anything extremely well in any one cat.  Built in regression and I’m not sure he plays 31 minutes again, plus missing 3 games due to the “super extreme” DUI suspension makes me think he’s not the most super extreme nice guy.

129. Trey Burke, Utah Jazz – The good: 90.3% FT (in very small volume though), only 1.9 TO.  The bad: 5.7 assists from a 32 minute starting role, 0.6 steals.  The ugly: 38% FG percentage and Dante Exum is gonna push for minutes. Burke’s probably the last big-minute PG on the board, so if you need some late assists upside you can grab him, but I’m likely avoiding for other upside plays.

130. J.R. Smith, New York Knicks – Tats McGoo had a surprising 92nd overall finish last year, but it was fueled by dimebags!  Which he has experience with… I keed of course, he never had a 10 dime game last year!  But did average a career-best 3 assists a game in 13-14, which is certainly not happening again in the Triangle O and with Calderon a much better PG than fatty Felton.  Career high 2.6 treys seems unlikely to repeat as well.  I can’t remember the last time I had J.R. Smith on my team, and it won’t be this year either.

131. Omer Asik, New Orleans Pelicans – I’ve seen Asik getting drafted crazy high, and I just don’t see it.  I think people are forgetting that Ryan Anderson is there, and while Anderson is healthy, he and the Brow are going to play in crunch time.  Asik should carve out a decent role with a ton of boards and a block a game, but past that isn’t much of a contributor while an awful FT shooter.

132. Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Detroit Pistons – Let’s try this again!  KCP is a big sleeper for me… If at first you don’t succeed… I’m probably going to reference this game a million times through pre-season, but in the season finale last year against the Thunder (who were playing for a higher seeding), 30/6/0/2/1 with 5 treys shooting 11-19 from the field.  Dem fighting numbers!  Stan Van has raved about KCP after Summer League – which he absolutely tore up for 24/7.4/1.6/1.8/0.2 with 2.4 treys – and while the struggle for minutes vs. Meeks is a challenge, if KCP plays his butt off, he’ll find minutes.  He’s a defensive standout for the bossman who loves his D, and doesn’t turn the ball over.  He had 28 TOs TOTAL last season!  In 1,583 minutes.  And in that monster 30 point finale?  No TOs.  A last pick flyer if there ever was one.

133. Gerald Green, Phoenix Suns – My Gerald Green hate knows no bounds!  But let’s be real – pre-ranks having him top 100 make no sense.  IT2 to match with Dragic and Bledsoe lock up the G rotation, and T.J. Warren and P.J. Tucker clog up SF.  I just don’t see the minutes even after his big breakout.  Plus efficiency regression is surely going to hit a guy who shot 36% in 12-13 to 44% last year.  I guess if you’re desperate for treys with your final pick or two I can buy it, but Yahoo’s pre-rank of 83 means you’re passing on a bevy of better options.

134. Andrea Bargnani, New York Knicks – Il Diva!  Yeah, I’m already feeling a little nauseous having him this high… Bargs was actually close to must-own for a stretch, before believing he could fly on this dunk attempt and jacking up his elbow.  13.7/5.3/1.1/0.3/1.3 with 0.7 treys and only 1.3 TOs in 23 starts last year.  Dem marginal numbers!  Phil J has said he’s a good fit for the Triangle O, and if the Knicks struggle, they’ll feature him for a trade.  I think he can surprise, as long as he doesn’t have any delusions of grandeur driving to the rim…

135. Matt Barnes, Los Angeles Clippers – Tattoo McGoo Number Two had some sneaky value last year particularly in the second half, going 13.4/5.3/2.4/1.1/0.6 in his final 27 games, but he’s still more of a plug-and-play for me than a potential sleeper.  I see some pretty good value from J.J. Redick, so Barnes has limited upside, albeit he’s useful.  Like McBob, a stat stuffer late across the board.

136. Miles Plumlee, Phoenix Suns – Even with a big start, Plumlee finished out of the top 150 in total value despite playing 80 games.  Tale of two calendar years!  10/9.1/0.6/0.6/1.8 in 2013, 6.9/7/0.5/0.6/0.7 in 2014.  2014, the year of the dried up plums!  The Suns dealing Frye helps free up some C minutes – especially since Prof. Plum only logged 22.6 MPG in 2014 – but the upside is a little limited.  Nice last round pick if you’re a little light in swats.

137. Tony Wroten, Philadelphia 76ers – Murder, She Wroten!  T Dubs flashed some surprising upside last year, with a sizzling 16 games in which he started for 17.8/4.4/5.2/1.2/0.4.  Given Michael Carter-Williams was hurt in most of those, but there’s some murmurs Wroten could fill the wide open SG spot in Philly.  Even if he starts, let’s not go crazy – 3.2 TO when he started and he’s probably the worst FT shooting guard in the NBA at 64.1% last year – in fairly high volume at that.  Plus the Sixers could mix-and-match all year and make Wroten a nightmare to own.  The smidge of upside gets him in the top 150 though.

138. Nik Stauskas, Sacremento Kings – This’ll turn some heads!  After slamming him as a ThrAGNOF on draft day in a roster competition with Ben McLemore, I’m starting to really like Stauskas’ prospects as a sleeper.  First there’s the fact McLemore is terrible.  Go back to Ryan Lewis!  Then it’s been floated out there he’s going to be a key in the offensive distribution, which makes a lot of sense with Darren Collison not a heavy dimer.  In a whopping 35.6 MPG in his final year at Michigan, Stauskas only had 1.9 TO a game.  I see him being a surprise with obviously nice treys, sneaky dimes, and low TOs.  And of course I think he’s taking the starting 2 role.

139. Kendall Marshall, Milwaukee Bucks – So many assists yet can’t find a home!  Dropped by the Lakers, the Bucks scooped him up and he has a really easy shot at becoming their starting PG.  At Chapel Hill he reminded me of Jason Kidd so I guess it’s appropriate he ended up with Milwaukee, and while any upside is limited to dimes, at least he offers a possible huge spike in a tough to find cat late in drafts.

140. Terrence Ross, Toronto Raptors – Roller coaster season!  Even with that ridiculous 51-point outburst that I’m sure will stump everyone on the Sporcle “2010s 50-point scorers” quiz, only averaged 10.9 points a game last year.  Anemic dimes and meh in pretty much all cats except Pts/3s, Ross is only worth this rank because of the upside.  Didn’t bode well he faltered in the playoffs, but he’s still young and could put it all together.

141. Eric Gordon, New Orleans Pelicans – I’m seeing him ranked top 100 some places.  You kiddin’ me?!  Bad %s, doesn’t really do much besides score, and has played in a whopping 115 games in the last three years.  So that’s 115/246.  To top that off, he had YET ANOTHER arthroscopic knee surgery this offseason.  I guess if he was around this late in my draft, I’d grab him if I needed points.

142. Brandan Wright, Dallas Mavericks – Even though per-36 for a guy off the bench isn’t directly translatable, last year was 17.5/8.2/1/1.1/1.8 shooting 7.5-11.1  (67.7%).  The blocks were an eensy bit down, but Tyson Chandler had injury issues last year, and there’s no one exciting at 4/5 behind Tyson and Dirk.  Should get surprising run with the upside at big minutes with both starters so old.

143. Dante Exum, Utah Jazz – So young, so raw, but the Jazz are an open canvas for anything exciting and his second half could be worth the pick in deeper leagues.  It helps Trey Burke isn’t very good and Utah has no shot at the playoffs.  Might move down if he plays awful in preseason after looking overwhelmed in Summer League.

144. Avery Bradley, Boston Celtics – A little underrated for the boarding he brings you as a guard, but he conversely brings you no dimes.  Chips in a little here and a little there with at least 15 PPG, but not much of a ceiling.

145. Marco Belinelli, San Antonio Spurs – Here’s where I should’ve used “Mama Mia!”  Spurs announcers always yelling that for Bel… He became a perfect fit for the Spurs, and turned in a 123 overall finish only playing 25.2 minutes a game last year.  It was a metrics-friendly 123 with low TOs and more than a trey, but still.  A great deeper league roster filler.

146. Marcus Morris, Phoenix Suns – Usage was up and down last year, but marginally improved FG% and AST:TO in the second half while offering an underrated line.  With Frye gone, minutes are there for the taking for a solid contribution in treys from an out-of-position PF.

147. C.J. Miles, Indiana Pacers – Possibly looking at a starting role at the 3 in a position battle against Solomon Hill Indiana giving Miles 4 years at $18 million shows a little bit of a commitment.  He hits a ton of treys and with the minutes should be over a steal a game, making him a poor man’s Jodie Meeks.

148. Ersan Ilyasova, Milwaukee Bucks – I guess there’s some bounce back upside from this 6-foot-turkey, but it DOES sound scary!  The Bucks are vehemently trying to dump him and he looked downright awful last year.  He looked like a clown with huge flat clown shoes on defense.  Still, he was a top-50 player in both per-game and total value in 12-13, and went into last year with a bad ankle sprain.  Maybe there’s something left in the tank, but he isn’t going to be on my roster while we figure that out.

149. Enes Kanter, Utah Jazz – Back-to-back Turks!  Don’t get me wrong, Kanter is not a very good player… But the Jazz have nothing on their front line, and even though he was a much better player off the bench to feast off second units, he’s going to get decent minutes.  Trouble is, he’s a big who doesn’t block or shoot a great FG% since his game is mid-range.  This late, guaranteed minutes for a young guy could turn into something…

150. K.J. McDaniels, Philadelphia 76ers – A lot will depend on news through pre-season, but even if Wroten locks up SG there’s a hole at SF as well.  I think the 3 is a perfect spot for the versatile wing, who was a 1+ 5-catter in college averaging over a trey per as well, with 2.8 blocks.  If he’s looking at a 25-30 minute role, pencil in a block a game from your wing to flank your bigs if you’re light there.

 

There it is folks!  I’m sure a dozen of these guys I could write a whole sleeper article on, but it’s to the final 151-200 of the ranks!  Shoot your thoughts below and happy sleeper-reaching!

  1. Lasandro says:
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    Well, you did it mate! A nice lil wrap up

    So Henson would still only be around the early 90’s if you see him starting? As I said in an earlier post, if he hits the 30min mark, he may be as stat-friendly as they come. I remember the December I owned him last season.. Muppet Man with dem stats! He and Reke are always so intriguing for me and I enjoy watching them both in real life because they’ll go on runs where they make O (Reke) and D (Henson) seem like child’s play. Kid n Play, even.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Lasandro: We somehow made it! Haha. Yeah, I don’t know how much past 90 I could go, maybe into the 80s, but even if he is the clear cut starter, Larry Sanders looms for minutes. OD on Reke and Henson! Haha. Wait, what is Kid n Play???

  2. Richo says:
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    I’ve been refreshing this site waiting for this to drop.
    My favourite part was when you said SVG ‘loves his D’ about KCP. Haha, thanks mate.

    • Slim

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      @Richo: I shouldn’t read comments 1st but this one gave me a good long chuckle this morning.

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      @Richo:
      A few things I’ve been wondering about:
      -Hardaway/Shump/whoever else NYK will play at the 2. Any value there without a trade?

      -Gorgui Dieng. ESPN has him 119 and Yahoo has him 135. Do you guys see him getting a relevant amount of minutes with a healthy Pek? I loved his little spurt of boards and blocks late last season but I’m guessing Minny will go a lot of stretch 4 with Wiggins, Thad and Bennett.

      -How good will Smart be if there is a Rondo trade? Assuming no PG comes back. If I need a PG after

      -Why is Nick Young so swaggy?

      -Steven Adams? Apparently Scott Brooks hinted that Perkins time was pretty much up after their conference finals loss.

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        @Richo: Oops, I didn’t quite finish the comment on Marcus Smart.. If I need a PG after *about 120 I think I’ll just take a flyer on him or Livingston.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Richo: Knicks – yeah a little value, but with both there neither is top 150 for me, especially with JR also playing some 2 in mix and match schemes. I like Hardaway, but he hits threes only and is anemic everywhere else.

        Dieng – So wish he had a role… Unfornutaely he can only play the 5 and like you said, they’re loaded at the 4. So only minutes will come as strict backup to Pek, who would have to be hurt. He’d be a great value in that case, but tough to take that to the bank on draft day.

        -I’d be lower on Smart still. Not big in assists or treys with big TOs if he was handed the keys. Avery Bradley could steal minutes too with Jeff Green and Evan Turner playing some 2. Livingston having offseason foot surgery is a little scary, both are out of my top 150, I’d probably take the flyer on Smart first too but it’d be in a deep deep league and I doubt he’d last to me.

        -We’ll never know why he’s so Swggy!

        -Love Adams as a real life player, still dunno if minutes will be there yet. Def making top 200 though

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          @JB Gilpin: I didn’t know about Livingstons foot surgery, would be hard for him to find 20+ minutes at GSW too. Love his game though.
          I just checked Adams per 36 numbers. 8 and 10 at 50fg% and 58ft%. 1.3ass, 1.2stl and 1.7blk with a very impressive 2.1 TO’s and 6.2 personal fouls hahahaha.
          I definitely thought he was a better rebounder than that (4.3 offensive).

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Richo: I do too, but I don’t think there’s enough room for him. Hahaha 6 fouls per 36 minutes… Refs hate New Zealnders! I think he had a lot of 10-15 minute games with 1 board that sunk it down a little.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Richo: Thanks so much man! Sorry it took a bit, definitely was meticulous and more so than last year with the late rounds. SVG loves his D from KCP, I think that will be the blurb on the overall 200 big board! Haha

  3. Slim

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    Yeah KJ made the top 150. There’s my last pick in all my 12ers.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Slim: Yessir! I struggled with the final slot and your projection swooned me a little 🙂

  4. Slim

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    I just did my 1st 12er Y! mock draft… Pick #6.

    1. Harden SG/SF
    2. Jefferson PF/C
    3. Lawson PG
    4. Vucevic PF/C
    5. Oladipo PG/SG
    6. Favors PF/C
    7. Calderon PG
    8. Markieff PF/C
    9. Reggie Jackson PG/SG
    10.Draymond SF
    11. Jordan Hill PF/C
    12. Henson PF/C
    13. KJ McDaniels SF

    I think I’m a little heavy on bigs but I’m assuming either Hill or Henson doesn’t work out. Maybe I’m a few assists short of where I want to be. I feel good about both percents. TOs are a little high but whatever. Steals and Blocks are solid. Maybe a few more 3s could help. I could use a ThrAGNoF probably. So if Henson or Hill turns into lets say Ross or Hardaway then this should be a little more well rounded but of course that’s easy to find/stream.

    Thoughts? Anything you don’t like? Antetok went 93. Elfrid went 88. Terrence Jones went 100. So those all seem to be on the rise. Oh and Drummond 17. Millsap 31, Kawhi 32. I passed on both to take Lawson so I wouldn’t miss the PG run. Plus I had a SF already in Harden and I don’t want a bunch of them. Last group. Thad 41, DeRozan 44, Parson 45, Hayward… 62. Pretty easy to see the value there.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Slim: Everyone you picked is someone I like! I was gonna say the same thing, maybe a tad light on assists, but you should be 50/50 there most weeks with Lawson and Jose. Yup, ThrAGNOF! Stream that shizz!

      Wow, Anteok 93… Wish you coulda gotten him over RJax, that would make this team nastier. I’m no good at math. means Anteok went before Markieff too? Interesting…

      Drummond seems to be going top 20 everywhere… Dammit, I’m gonna be low on Drummond again. Let’s hope this time I’m not as far off as I was last year!

      Agree with you on Hayward, I like Parsons the most so think that was good value too, but Hayward isnt 2 rounds off from those guys.

    • Phamtastic

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      @Slim:

      Love the Harden pick, he’s definitely my top pick in that range. I have seen him go as low as 8 in mocks, so hopefully I can get him lower.

      Lawson and Calderon are must haves too on my team at those rounds. Would you consider taking Lillard or Lowry at #2 instead if they were there? I “think” you can get Terrence Jones or Sully or Jval in the later rounds to be a poor man’s version of Big Al?

      Henson is a sick pick, but I imagine you prob won’t get him that late once JB finishes hyping him up lol.

      Also love the Markief pick, but is that too high for him? He’s projected lower. Do you think he will go that high or should I wait to get him in the later rounds?

      Solid team. Looking forward to your league. I am happy to see our teams are very different lol

      • Slim

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        @Khang: It went Durant, LeBron, Curry, Paul. I thought I was about to be gifted the Brow. Love went 7 which I do not understand.

        I should have taken Millsap over Jefferson. I don’t think I’ll make that mistake again. I guess I thought Harden’s FG% needed help and Millsap might have meant punt. There’s no need to think that way. It can be made up for.

        Those guys aren’t quite Jefferson with the volume FG% I was looking for. Sully isn’t for me. TJones still represents a fair amount of risk considering how many times they tried to replace him. Valanciunas is OK, I don’t think there’s a big spike in production though.

        Lowry still feels like an injury risk to me and there’s too many others around there that don’t. I wanted Dragic, settled for Lawson.

        Yeah it’s early for the Henson hype.

        As I look back I do think I could have gotten Markieff a round later, Reggie a round later (or a few other PGs with some upside), taken Antetok or TJones instead in the 8th. But it’s tough… I know I don’t want to miss on Markieff. If I miss on those 2 or Elfrid I don’t mind as much. If Jones/Antetok was there when I took Reggie I would have taken either.

        So…
        Harden, Millsap, Lawson, Vuc, Oladipo, Favors, Calderon
        Jones/Antetok, Markieff, Reggie, Henson, Draymond, KJ.

        Better.
        Not sure Draymond is there but he isn’t that crucial in this lineup. Could be a lot of different players. Vuc/Favors are like 20 picks later than where I have them ranked.

        Last thing. I had my choice of Favors/Faried in the 6th. So Faried more for Scoring, FG%, and Boards, Favors for Blocks. I chose blocks.

    • Richo says:
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      @Slim: Man I love Harden. #1 ranked post ASB, SG/SF, I’ve got him at 4 ahead of LBJ.
      Last 4 picks are great, surely 1-2 top100 players will jump from those.
      With the dual position from ‘Dipo, RJ and Harden you have the ability to change your line up to focus on assists, TO’s or boards. I like DPP’s!
      I am getting Antetokounmpo. I may have to take him in the 7th in my 14 teamer..
      Drummo and Millsap are my keeper options in my league.. Not sure if I’ll forfeit my 2nd pick for Drummo or my 3rd for Millsap. Depends who I take in 1st.
      Wow, Hayward was late. He is pretty much just a cheap Batum yeah? Except the Jazz don’t like him.
      Seems like a draft where everyone didn’t just auto pick. Good luck!

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Slim: @Richo: Interesting having Harden above LeBron, but I totally see it. They’re really close, yet LeBron is gonna go 2 in tons of leagues. I think in my first ranking adjustment some time during early preseason he’ll hop Chris Paul.

        Yeah I like your version two better, be awesome to get Markieff a round later if you know he’s there. You know I’m def taking Favors over Faried 🙂

        7th in a 14 teamer sounds about right, that’s in the 80s-90s which is where I have him. So def the 7th.

        Sacrifice the 3rd for MIllsap!!!!!!!!!!

        Well the Jazz better like him now that they gave him all that money!

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: Yeah, I know you’re taking Favors over Faried, I will for the most part too. I’m addicted to blocks. If I could put some blocks in a pill press, I’d throw a pic of batman on the front, crack a few glowsticks, and dance the night away.

          unce – unce – unce – unce

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Slim: Blocks party rave!

      • Slim

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        @Richo: There was only 1 inactive drafter all the way to the end and everyone was very talkative, it was a fun mock.

        Millsap in the 3rd I would definitely keep. Drummond in the 2nd is tough but he’s worth a ton on the trade market.

        Thanks for the response.

  5. Drez says:
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    Hey, who do you guys got between Parsons and Oladipo in a keeper league? I think Parsons is what he is at this point, but I have no idea what to expect out of Oladipo.

    9 cat h2h with 3pt% instead of of total 3’s (only reason I’m leaning Parsons)

    Thanks!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Drez: I’m probably taking Oladipo. Interesting that 3% is a cat, but I think Oladipo will improve there and I have him ranked above Parsons this year already. I like V.O.’s upside a ton.

    • Slim

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      @Drez: Yeah I guess I would take Oladipo but it’s close.

  6. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    I know he’s not in this group of rankings, but I just read this quote from Josh Smith when he was asked about his new role under SVG.

    “Being able to play in the mid-range and attacking,” Smith said of his likeliest role.

    For the love of Pistol Pete, please don’t even talk about “mid-range” shooting. As your boss in the REL I forbid it. What are the odds SVG keeps him tethered to the basket and stops his ridiculous need to try to make jump shots?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Hahahaha, poor Josh Smith… Well we’ve talked about Smith playing the 6th man role, which means Stan Van could really limit his role if he starts throwing up fadeaways from 20+ feet. At least he’s saying mid-range and not perimeter!

      • A Hill O' Beans says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah, I guess the upside is he didn’t mention 3 point shooting. Someone needs to make a video of every jump shot he missed last year and force him to sit down and watch the whole thing.

          • A Hill O' Beans says:
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            @JB Gilpin: Ha! Only difference is that guy almost got it to go in off the bounce, which is closer than Josh gets most of the time!

            • JB Gilpin

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              @A Hill O’ Beans: Haha Smoove should shoot like Robin Williams did in that Jack movie, bouncing it in. RIP Robin!

  7. Boom Shakalaka says:
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    Does anyone have an idea of what you need to average to win each cat in a 10 team H2H 9 cat league. All I remember from last year was the %’s. If you finished each week with a FG% above .465 and a FT% above .800 chances are you would win. Does anyone have any insight as to what you would need for all the other stats?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Boom Shakalaka: Hmmm that’s a really good question! I’ll do a little research, I can’t pinpoint anything 10-team, I was in mostly 12 teamers and dynasties and such which all throw it off.

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      @Boom Shakalaka: the figures I go by are 48% and 78%. 1 3pm, 1 block and 1 steal per game. About 3.5-4 assists and 5-6reb per game I think. Not sure on pts and TO’s.
      Also depends how many rosters spots are playing. Hope that helps!

  8. Bloopers says:
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    Been following your posts and everything has been great! We’re running a new H2H league this year where we’re drafting nba teams instead of players. The concept is you can only use players from your drafted/traded teams. How would rank the teams in this way? Thanks in advance!

    • Richo says:
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      @Bloopers: Go to a stats website (hoop data?) and find pace. Pace would be a pretty big determinant on stat production for a team. Beware of coaching changes though! I’d go Spurs pretty high but only because I’m assuming they’d be efficient as hell. I think Philly will be fast paced- plenty of TO’s though.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Richo: @Bloopers: Whoa, that’s some intense stuff! Umm, Philly would scare me due to rotations. Spurs a little less so, but on full days you’re gonna be annoyed having 3 Spurs in there playing under 30 minutes. OKC and CLE I think are the pretty clear cut first two teams. Clippers are up there too. I’d def value the primetime teams more too, as you’ll want the teams playing on Tues/Thurs a lot to maximize your minutes.

    • Slim

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      @Bloopers: I have a question. How many players from the team can you start each game? Big difference if you start 5 or 10. Top of my head I like OKC, LAC, CLE, CHI, POR, ATL, top 6. After that things get a little more dicey. DAL, PHO, SAS, maybe SAC, HOU.

      • Bloopers says:
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        @Slim: we start 10 same as in a standard league. Those are great suggestions. I was also thinking of possible combinations to maximize the strengths of the team. Playoff skeds will also be a factor. Thanks!

        • Slim

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          @Bloopers: Maybe everyone gets 2 teams. So snake draft style with the 1st round having to be a team that was in the playoffs last year and the 2nd round pick has to be a team that missed the playoffs. This way it isn’t so skewed to whoever gets the early picks.

          But with 10 players started I would move SAS, PHO up, and CHI, POR down.

  9. MAC says:
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    ei slim, who are u getting if both avail, lawson or conley?
    im leaning lawson right now. tnx!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @MAC: Well I’m no Slim but I got Lawson 25 and Conley 31. I know Slim likes Lawson too so I think he’s got him ahead, but I’m sure he’ll answer too!

      • MAC says:
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        @JB Gilpin:
        tnx! sori forgot to type jb. hehe. anyway, i agree with you JB! picking in the 9th round onwards are crucial. pretty much, these picks for me i lean more towards huge upside. and thragnofs for sure.

        • Slim

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          @MAC: Yeah I like Lawson a little better but that is very much predicated on him being healthy. Right this second it sounds like he will be but come preseason if he isn’t 100% then I’m passing.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @MAC: Yup that’s how we do!

  10. Chow says:
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    Congratulation for your work!!!

    3 questions in dinasty

    1.- Ilyasova or Olynyck?
    2.- Take Gallianri x Joe Johnson?
    3.- Take Vucecic x Pau & Ilyasova/Olynyck?

    Thanks

    • Slim

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      @Chow:

      1. I’m so done with Ilyasova, maybe he was just injured but I’m done. I choose Olynyk even though I don’t think he’s going to ever be a top 50 player.

      2. Bleh… I’d gamble on Gallo I recon. Joe should be OK this year but he is definitely winding down his career while if Gallinari does come back healthy he could have a few good years left. For this year I don’t feel too good about either, it’s just that I can’t imagine Joe Johnson is ever going to be the Joe Johnson of yesteryear.

      3. Vucevic and it isn’t close. Both for this year and beyond.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Chow: Thanks so much! 1 – yeah I’m going Olynyk too even though I don’t like either. 2 – I’m with Slim here too, Danilo. I like Joe Johnson more this year if you’re all-in for the title, but long term definitely the Italian. 3. I think it’s a little closer than Slim if it’s a really deep dynasty and you’re going all-in this year, but if it’s a dynasty like 16 teams or under, very much so vucevic.

  11. Phamtastic

    Khang says:
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    Please bump Asik up to #103 lol. I swear he’s gonna be the new DJ with 1.8 blocks a game and better FT %

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Khang: 1.8 blocks? The past two years he’s been 1.3 and 1.4 in per-36 🙂 Not gonna get 30 minutes even I think so I dunno if he even gets to 1! If he shoots 60% that’s still better than DJ haha, but yeah, I don’t see it for Asik

      • Phamtastic

        Khang says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Lol I like Asik as much as you hate Klay. Between AD and Anderson, there’s bound to be a lot of missed games.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Khang: haha, that’s fair! Ummm, I dunno man I think both can be pretty durable since Anderson is just gonna camp for treys

  12. Phamtastic

    Khang says:
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    Also there’s no way hibbert goes past #100. Would be a stellar deal at #118. Seems to be going in the 80s in the mocks that I have been in…

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Khang: I’d be happy if he gets picked above 100, means whoever got him is gonna have a horrible team! If he’s awful, they could start West Scola pretty quick

      • Phamtastic

        Khang says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        You’ll be a happy man then lol. People are reaching for him like crazy.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Khang: I guess another big reason is I love guys like Favors and Ibaka early so don’t need his blocks upside.

  13. MAC says:
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    ei guys! do you see more quality bigs or pg late after round 8 in a 12 team h2h? and who are those? hehe. my strategy is always get a pg or a big in the first 6 rounds as atleast. then get my thragnofs at 9 with redick in mind. tnx!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @MAC: Definitely more quality bigs. I think the upside for bigs late will trump upside for PG, especially once you get past Elfrid Payton.Yup, ThrAGNOFs late – love Redick, Tim Hardaway Jr. with your last pick, so many guys like that avail late.

    • Phamtastic

      Khang says:
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      @MAC:

      Agreed way more decent bigs than PGs at the late rounds. Guys like:

      Rolo
      Jval
      Hibbert
      Asik (!!!)
      Henson
      Sullinger
      T Jones
      Markief Morris
      Chandler
      Mason Plumlee
      Miles Plumlee

      Imo the last decent PG on the board will be Darren Collison. After that it gets a bit iffy.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Khang: Agree with most of those, but so many options there def proves the point. I have Collison pretty high up too so my board really thins at [email protected]MAC:

      • MAC says:
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        @JB Gilpin:
        Tnx! defntely should lock assts and blks early. and stls as well.

      • Slim

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        @JB Gilpin: This fits into my goal of 3 PGs in the 1st 6 rounds… Ideally. Maybe we can make it 3 in the 1st 7 rounds if we include Calderon and Collison as 7th rounders.

        I think there’s even more bigs than that. Jordan Hill, Tristan Thompson is ranked higher than Markieff and TJones by yahoo, moving right along… Amir Johnson, Nene, plus some gambles like McGee, Dalembert, Olynyk, Cody Zeller. Equivelent PGs are like Livingston, Mo Williams, Jack, Harris.

        But… Yahoo has Reggie Jackson at 158, Wroten at 160, Smart at 168, Stuckey at 188, McCollum at 191. So it’s not like there isn’t some late PG upside too. Or even deeper you’ve got Vasquez and Augustin who could both turn into must own players in the right circumstances.

  14. Phamtastic

    Khang says:
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    Crazy reaches for Jval, Jones, and Hibbert though compared to their Yahoo rankings. Jones is going nowhere near his 150 rank

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Khang: Yeah TJones is the only guy I really like of those 3, helps his pre-rank is really really low for some reason!

  15. MAC says:
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    ei guys, can u give me some position tiers for pg and bigs

    • Slim

      Slim says:
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      @MAC: So tiers is kind of something I do but it’s heavily settings dependent so I do it for each league I’m in. ‘Tiers’ isn’t exactly the right word though it’s more like ‘which round would I draft them in’.

      Tier 1 (1st round) in a league like the RCLs for PGs is Curry, Paul, Wall, Westbrook.
      Tier 2 (2nd round) PGs Lillard, Dragic
      Tier 3 (3rd round) has a bunch
      Tier 4 (4th round) Oladipo, Jrue, Kemba, Monta, Bledsoe, Kobe, Rose
      etc…

      Since I agree with like 95% of JBs ranks I would just use them to figure out the rounds I would feel comfortable drafting each.

      Eventually JB is going to do auction values and that’s another way to make tiers. Tier 1 are PGs worth $40+, tier 2 $30+, tier 3 $20+, etc…

      Tiers for the upper echelon guys doesn’t mean too much since the 1st round is more of just taking who you have slotted to you… based off your rankings.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @MAC: I’m actually doing the position breakdown of my ranks now, and doing them in tiers! PG will be up today!

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