The NBA really is Jordan Belfort.  The Wolf of Fantasy Sports!  It’s tantric and never slows down, from the Finals ending less than two weeks before the draft, free agency hitting a week later and we’re already starting summer ball.  And the NBA will soon revel in the excess that is the 16-17 salary cap boost with a TV deal that put Seinfeld reruns to shame.  I need my ludes to get me through!

Even the Spurs couldn’t avoid the world of excess and massive free agency signings, bringing in LaMarcus Aldridge for a cool $80 million.  Loosening up the purse strings!  My first thought was, “dammit, Kawhi is never gonna be the guy!”  Then again, he got over $90 mil with his extension, so there’s that!  But Kawhi Leonard sometimes struggles with the mid-range and long-distance shooting, so L.A. should help Kawhi by opening up some lanes and keeping him in his game.  This is going to be a crazy offense, with Tim Duncan moving to center and likely being his solid old self.  Which leaves us with what to expect from Aldridge…  And, me no likey for fantasy.  After being really durable early in his career, he’s had a few bumps and bruises (I know, I know, playing through a torn thumb tendon gets mad props) and the Spurs – as we all know – love to limit the minutes.  I also don’t think he quite gets to 20 shots a game like we’ve seen the past few years.  I had him 20 in my way too early rankings, but the move drops him a few spots at the least.  L.A. in S.A. is not OK!  Here’s what else has gone on through the first few days of free agency and rookie ball:

Anthony Davis Got the max 5 year $145 million deal a few seconds after free agency opened.  Rough few seconds of negotiating right there!  Then the next morning he’s flashing 3-point shots at a workout.  I might be flashing Brow sooner than later at this point…

Omer Asik Whoa, the Pelicans got money crazy after giving Brow the most wad they could!  It’s like throwing a ton of money at the prize stripper and getting mad drunk, then throwing way too much at like a 3 or 4 at best…  I’m just off my bachelor party, I source my comparisons with real life!  5 years at $58 mil seems an overspend, but I do like Brow locked in at the 4 so he doesn’t get pummeled by opposing bigs.

Monta Ellis – So in comparison to that Asik deal, Monta gets 4 years $44 mil.  Something doesn’t add up!  Then again, Ellis turned down bigger money from the Kings, who have become the ultimate “never gonna do it!” franchise.  Pairs PG13 with some much needed O and gives the re-tooling Pacers a much higher tempo look.  Daddy likey in real life, but a shruggy “meh” in fantasy value.  Doesn’t change too much.

Wesley Matthews Man, as we run through these contracts, that Monta deal is looking more and more like a steal!  The Mavs lose Monta and replace him for $20 more million bucks.  4 years, $64 mil to play for the Dallas Cubans, and I don’t think it’s a great upgrade, if at all.  He’s only a year younger and off a major injury.  Maybe everyone just needed a change of scenery, and Matthews being more a spot shooter should help, but it seems like the Mavs could’ve done better.  I expect a ton of 3s in the normal Matthewsian stat line.

Greg Monroe Got offered max money from everywhere!  But said, F that, I’m going to…  the Bucks?  Geez, who woulda thought that would ever make sense!?  But says he wants to win now and the Bucks are…  well, in the East so there’s that!  Monroe can move to a traditional 5, and I think his rebounding output is going to be preposterous.  I love he has the post to himself now, and he’s going to be really close to 50ish overall for me with the move.  Great fit.

Khris Middleton Well, good thing the Bucks re-signed The Duchess – they need some shooters out there!  Unreal he got 5 years $70 million.  He was in DNP purgatory early last year, then Kidd finally came to his senses and The Duchess unleashed top-30 value when the calendar hit 2015.  This is starter’s money for K-Midd, so Jabari Parker should play the pure 4 with Giannis Antetokounmpo slotting in at the opposite wing.

Al-Farouq Aminu The Blazers paid $30 mil over 4 years for a defender with a terrible jumper.  Tanking season!  The Blazers have nothing else at the 3 anymore, so despite some awful FG% games we might get a really rainbowish season.  He just has to hold onto the job through the rest of free agency and then through a tanking year.

Damian Lillard At least one person is staying!  The Blazers sole remaining starter from last year gets nearly $130 mil for 5 years to be the face of the franchise.  His usage this year is going to be BANANAS!  But imagine saying “bananas” in a creepy 5-year-old Omen voice.  It’s going to be a fun year.  For Lillard owners, not Blazers fans…  Or bananas…

Mason Plumlee Traded to Portland for Rondae Hollis-Jefferson and some other scrap thrown in there.  Nice deal by the Blazers.  Plumlee thinks he could start, Stotts said not so fast, but then followed it with, “JFC, I just hope I’m not fired in February!”  Plumlee has been an enigma showing flashes then some utter unusability, so even if he’s the starter I don’t know if I’d be pumping in a huge investment.

Ed Davis Solid filler contract from the Blazers for $20 mil over 3 years.  Every iota of my existence hopes he starts at the 4 or at center over Prof Plum.  If he’s looking at a starting role, he’s going to be “WELLLL-COME TO THE, SLEEPER ZONE!”

Danny Green Likely turned down more money elsewhere to stay with the 15-16 NBA Champ Spurs.  I mean, have you looked at this lineup?!  4 years, $45 million to stay in Pop’s rotation system that really makes Green frustrating at times.  And this year there will have him struggling even more for consistent shots.

David West – Signs to the Spurs to be the backup PF/C on a veteran’s minimum.  Talk about wanting to win!  I bet the Kings would throw EVEN HIM a max deal at this point!  Geez, that front line that had some really rough defensive efforts last year is now so much better.  But West is probably undraftable now.

Brook Lopez Wow, the Nets really like the status quo so…  I’d be scratching my head as a Brooklyn fan.  Brolo gets 3 years for $60 mil, which seems mighty hefty given the injury history.  But man did the Lopez family get rich!  I’m not drafting either – definitely not this one.

Robin Lopez Ya know, for all the Rolo bashing I do, I kinda think this is a solid spot and could make him a late round value.  4 years $54 million ($10 mil more than Monta though, yeesh!) to clog up the Knicks paint.  But he should board, fall into some ugly dunks and a lucky block here and there.

Thaddeus Young Sticking with NY teams, Brooklyn’s status quo continues with Young staying in Brooklyn for $50 mil on 4 years.  The Pacers must’ve included some real nice incentives for Ellis to go $6 mil cheaper!  Thad was “OK” on the Nets, but saw that FT% drop to 60% while losing numbers in most cats with the minutes decrease.  Remember when he was coming off the bench?!  And he wanted to stay there?!  Yikes.

Jimmy Butler Gets the max the Bulls could throw at him at 5 years $95 mil.  I’m sure Bulls fans are ecstatic, but the fantasy question looms how many minutes he’ll play with Tibby Tibs gone.

Patrick Beverley Semi-surprised P-Bev stayed with the Rox after all the PG trade talk last year, but indeed they retain him for a pretty friendly 4 year, $25 million.  Makes him easily tradable and/or replaceable by a deadline trade too.  Murky waters.

Goran Dragic Monster 5 year $90 mil deal to keep his talents in South Beach.  But Dwyane Wade has resigned on a one-year deal which will keep Dragic’s usage down in South Beach.  I loved the Drago last year, but now, very meh in South Beach.  I had Dragic 39 a few months ago, and re-thinking it I might go a tad lower.  In South Beach.

DeAndre Jordan Mark Cuban says he’s the new Shaq.  Ummmmm…  Anyway, 4 years $80 mil, and it’s hard to believe he’s still only 26.  With Dirk Nowitzki camping outside (and pitching a tent!), DJ is going to continue some massive boarding and blocking for years to come.  Cuban needs a Shark Tank invention to get DJ to make FT though.  Imagine if DJ suddenly was 60% from the line!  Would be nuts if he could make it happen.

Paul Millsap Stays with the Hawks.  Which means he stays in the second round.  Which means we’ll be the highest on Millsap yet again.

Mike Dunleavy – Ughhhhhhhh!  Now with extra phlegm!  Re-signs for 3 years in Chicago, which crushes my soul to not see Tony Snell get a starting job.  Future All-Star Tony Snell!

Marc Gasol Another boring stayer, sticking with the Grizz for a monster $100 mil, 5-year deal.  He deserved it!  Not much of a change here.

Tiago Splitter – Dumped to the Hawks to give the Spurs room to sign everyone else.  Meh, at least the Hawks have a capable backup now!  Cut to Pero Antic signing in Turkey going, “Hey!  At least I don’t have to go back to New York anymore…”

DeMarre Carroll Whoa, 4 years at $60 million!  And yet, $16 mil more than Ellis.  Crazy town!  Anyway, your new Raps starting SF with Terrence Ross still around to syphon minutes.  Should have another solid year very similar to the Hawks seasons.

Tobias Harris I thought it was pretty shocking he stayed in Orlando.  One of the many to turn down more money to go to Sacramento, T-Hair gets 4 years at $64 mil.  He and new coach Scott Skiles are BFFs, so the 6th man role we saw at times last year should be a thing of the past.  I like Harris a lot as a sleeper/psuedo-bounceback.

Jae Crowder 5 years $35 million for a guy that never really got a shot until traded to the Celtics.  After a two game binge right after moving to Boston, everyone was nutso for this guy but it quickly fell apart.  He might be OK, but I doubt I’d draft him in 12ers even if assured a starting role.

Kevin Love As expected, stuck with the Cavs.  I think half the contract will be paid by ESPN to ramp up the Love/LeBron drama.  No way I’m touching Love.

Brandon Knight 5 years $70 mil to stay in Phoenix.  They think highly of the combo set!  Although it’s a pretty good fit with Knight closer to a 2 and Eric Bledsoe closer to a 1.  Plus they played Knight backup PG in his short stint, even though he had some rough shooting Knights.  See what I did there?!  Seems like a 70ish guy again this year.

Tyson Chandler Mmmmmm, Suns!  Booooooo, Alex Len!  Chandler comes in at 4 years, $52 mil to bring his up-tempo rim protecting and durability to Phoenix.  He’s older, but I love this move and I think Chandler could be a value.

Draymond Green I would cry a little bit if Golden State didn’t want to stay occupied with #OccupyDraymondGreen!  5 years, $85 mil, and for a guy drafted in the second round.  Amazing.

Amir Johnson Whoa, Celtics going balls out to bring in Amir!  Well, not really…  2 years $24 million sounds like a pretty pricey offer, but after looking at everything else, it’s a solid pickup.  The Celtics have shown no reliability at playing their big men, which I think is a Napolean complex.  Well, Stevens isn’t that short.  Maybe it’s Danny Ainge’s fault!  Although he’s a shocking 6’5…  Whatever, they suck at managing big men!

Paul Pierce – What up, Doc?!  Reunites with Doc in LA for a pretty team-friendly 3-year deal that will likely wind down to the end of his career.  A last hurrah!  But losing DJ and not doing much else save for trade for Lance Stephenson seems to be the wrong direction…  Stephenson slam!

The Kings Dumping Everything Even Though No One Will Sign There – In one of the oddest trades in recent memory, the Kings went all out and dumped all their salary giving the Sixers Nik Stauskas, Jason Thompson, Carl Landry, a protected first-round pick, and two more picks the Sixers have the right to trade with the Kings, for…  Overseas rights to two dudes I have never heard of and don’t want to look up again.  In other words, “There’s a trade rapist, in Phil-a-del-phia, so you better HIDE YO KIDS, HIDE YO WIFE, because they trade rapin’ e’rybody out hurr!”

Arron Afflalo – Two years to play for The Poppycockers.  Nope!  Their name doesn’t change until the have some semblance of playing basketball this year!  I’ve never been a big AA fan, but I think he can come close to the Orlando numbers from a few years ago.  Which is still kinda “meh”, but ownable.  Melo will suck up some shots though.

Kyle O’Quinn Wooooo, I can’t wait to see him in NY and just yell “KOQ BLOCK!” every time he swats someone!  4 years $16 mil, making him a pretty solidly paid backup.  Plus he’s working on the 3s to round out a really fantasy-friendly game should he fall into any starting time with injuries.

Derrick Williams – Here’s your “Poppycockers move of the offseason”!  2 years, $10 million for one of the bigger draft busts.  Maybe he can win an Olowokandi service award or something…

Roy Hibbert – Traded to the Lakers to disappoint even a larger market.  But hey, those Parks and Rec cameos can now be for all sorts of Hollywood shows!

Rajon Rondo One year deal to the Kings, where Rondo will be playing for his life.  With caps expanding next year, Rondo needs a monster season to get the big bucks.  IT ALL STARTS WITH MAKING YOUR FLIPPIN’ FT, YA BUM!  No reason to shoot DeAndre Jordan FT as a PG.  It also hurts Darren Collison, who yet again loses out on a chance to start after looking solid last year.  Even I would turn down Kings money at this point.

Marco Belinelli At the request of the one-year signed Rondo, the Kings go for 3 years of Belinelli at $19 million.  SOMEONE FINALLY TOOK THE MONEY!  I’m not sure how much he’ll play behind Ben McLemore and Rudy Gay, but will provide some swing minutes and some treys.

Pistons/Suns Trade – The Suns, pulling a Kings dump, sent Marcus Morris, Reggie Bullock and Danny Granger to the Pistons for a draft pick.  Well, thanks a lot Suns for breaking up the twins!  Morris is the only real interesting thing here, as he could land some wing minutes in an already crowded wing situation.  If only they played in Buffalo…  Buffalo Wild Wings!

Rodney Stuckey – Stays in Indiana for 3 years at $21 mil.  Should be able to play the backup 1/2 as a nice 6th man, but Monta coming in really hurts any upside.

Corey Joseph – Wooooo, I love my Cojo!  Cojo mojo!  I’m Cujo for Cojo!  Wait, wouldn’t that mean I want to eat him or something?  I never saw that one…  Anyway, a monster 4 year, $30 million contract for Joseph to go back to his home town, and with Kyle Lowry pissing everybody off, there’s some mad potential here.  I’ve loved him the past few years as a dynasty stash, and fraying with Lowry and management plus this deal’s money indicates a starting role could be down the road for Cojo.  He wouldn’t set the world on fire, but would be really solid with great %s and low TO.

Lou Williams 3 years $21 mil to go to the Lakers, giving them not one, BUT TWO Nick Youngs!  Sorry Lakers PGs, no assists for you!  This also clouds how Jordan Clarkson will fit into minutes as a combo guard.  I hate it all around.

Reggie Jackson 5 year $80 mil extention to stay in DET.  Brandon Jennings is still there for now, but a trade for a first round draft pick makes oh so much sense.

Nemanja Bjelica The Wolves signed last year’s Euroleague MVP to a three year deal, but he’ll really struggle for minutes.  He kinda gives me a Danilo Gallinari vibe.  But it’ll take time, even though he’s 27 and may never happen.

Myles Turner Mmmmm, oozing that upside in summer ball!  Has hit a trey in both games with 6 blocks his last outing.  Ibaka-lite!  Although he did have 8 fouls in that last game, as apparently Summer League is code for “hit the shit out of the other team!”

Jahlil Okafor 20/9 in his Summer League debut, bricking all four of his FT.  Sheesh, that FT issue sure is adjusting well the NBA, at least we know that!

Frank Kaminsky Knocking down treys and getting boards in two Summer League games, but c’mon, it’s early summer ball.  I still think he’s going to be overrated on draft day as a lot of people seem to be in on the Kaminsky ROY bandwagon (cough, Slim).

Mario Hezonja Another early riser with some summer ball swag, including a big dunk that is making everyone think he might be good for fantasy.  If only Summer League dunks counted for reg season stats!  C’mon, he’s not gonna be that good…

Aaron Gordon But Gordon might!  22/18/1/0/2 in his Summer League debut with a couple of treys then 21/10/3/3/0 yesterday, with another trey and 8-11 from the field.  His range had been a red flag coming into the pros, and if that expands, look out.  I really hope he is the starter day one – I’m going to be all in.

Stanley Johnson Also looking great in summer play, scoring 24 on 10-14 FG in his debut.  He’s playing at a Goodspeed!  The Rock joke?  No?  Too dated?  Back when Michael Bay was OK?!  No?!??!!  Fine.

 

We’ll be doing another Podcast at the end of the week to cover the massive amount of moves across the NBA, as we push into more Summer League action and overrate rookie performances.  It’s what we do!  Thanks for stopping by, Razzball Nation!

  1. Slim

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    There’s so much, I don’t know where to begin. Is Duncan top 100 in H2H? Those DNPs and I’m sure lower minute totals can be someone else’s problem. Kawhi a 1st rounder? I don’t see how his shot totals go up. Defensively he’ll be great, %s of course, but not scoring and thus the usefulness of those percents. Aldridge a 2nd rounder? Everything you said makes me say No too. Danny Green is kind of interesting with Belinelli and Joseph gone, Ginobili at the end. Will SloMo Mr Anderson get minutes this year? Probably not huh?

    Well that’s one team. Only 29 left for the podcast.

    So Cory Joseph gets $5 mil more than Beverley? Hmph. I’m not too worried about Beverley’s job security though. It seems obvious that if they want to beat the Warriors they need Beverley.

    Sweet Lou to the Lakers just makes me sad. OK so here’s whats going to happen… Clarkson is the starting PG and doesn’t relinquish the job all year. Sweet Lou gets minutes but both with Clarkson and with Russell and Clarkson easily gets to 30 minutes with Russell and Lou trading who gets more minutes each night. Kobe starts at SG and plays as a scorer not as a distributor, then he also gets minutes at SF. Clarkson will be the top fantasy guy out of all 4 of these guys. The next year Clarkson gets paid and starts at PG, Kobe retires and Russell starts at SG. There ya go. A little glimpse into the future.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Slim: Haha youre tellin me man it’s so much! As we chatted, Duncan 90-100 seemed good to me so I don’t think we’re too far off. Yeah Kawhi seems down to maybe 11-12, but I think his FG% goes way up. Def 3rd round for LA for me. Hahahaha nah, I don’t think Slomo plays much.

      Yeah good point on P Bev. With cap expanding next year, I like locking up upside backups right now. You know I love me some Cojo.

      Haha, well your Lakers scenario isn’t nuts, but the cards are really stacked against Clarkson. I dunno man, I don’t know if it’s happening this year, sounds like a good debate for the POd!

  2. Bryce Krispie Treats says:
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    Hey JB!

    Entertainment 720 paid Shrempf to just play basketball and paid Hibbert to hand out shrimp cocktails. Thats all you need to know about him…

    Who do you think gains the most for fantasy purposes in free agency? anyone you see making a huge jump? I do like the move for monroe to milwaukee…even though I am just as confused as you are on why he chose the bucks.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Bryce Krispie Treats: Yo! Hahahahaha, good point man! Shrempf was a boss indeed!

      Monroe was my first thought too. Ummmm, O’Quinn for super deep leagues, Aminu and Ed davis with chances to start, Rolo and Tyson Chandler I think get some minor boosts with their moves and will be underrated on draft day. Good fits in their teams.

      Thanks for dropping by!

    • Slim

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      @Bryce Krispie Treats: Lillard feels obvious, and really everyone on Portland considering non of them were 12er worthy last year. I like Kemba with Mo gone. Marcus Morris could be solid but I think Stanley Johnson looks phenomenal in summer league. Parsons should be better with Monta gone and still no PG. Hibbert has no competition but I’m not messing with that. With Jordan gone I expect Blake to go back to being a top rebounder. How about Stauskas to the sixers? Might be interesting. With the Kings doing nothing up front I like Cauley-Steins minutes to be guaranteed.

      Oh and Myles Turner looks scary good. I want him bad in a dynasty. He could easily be 12er redraft worthy this year.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Slim: @Bryce Krispie Treats: Oh good point, I was only thinking of guys moving. Although it’s not so fast on DJ all the sudden!

      I dunno what Stauskas is really gonna do, gotta be a bench guy right? Although I guess Covington/Stauskas wings could make sense. That could make sense.

      Agree on Turner, he’s putting up some crazy stats

      • Slim

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        @JB Gilpin: I don’t know what Dallas is going to do now. Has Robin Lopez actually signed yet? I bet Dallas would pay him now too.

        Mmm… Turner and Stanley. My two favorite rookies so far. The other Detroit draftpick, Darrun Hilliard, is probably ticketed for the DLeague but he looks like he might be a quality NBA backup at some point.

        Winslow got yanked from yesterdays game and never went back in. Uhoh. I don’t think he was injured but he looked completely lost. The game looked way too fast for him.

        Obviously Aaron Gordon looks great but only on a punt FT team…

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: Hah who knows what verbal committments mena anymore?!??!

          Interesting on Hilliard. I dunno about Johnson. Morris now there to fight for minutes too. But I’m all in on Turner too.

          True for Gordon on a FT punt. But he is looking great. Or on an Ibaka/another good C Ft% team

  3. Toni Vidal Ribes says:
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    Hi boys!

    What do you think about Justin Anderson?

    Order for a dinasty?
    Ed Davis
    Rodney Hood
    Aminu
    Justin Anderson

    Tanks

    • Slim

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      @Toni Vidal Ribes: I am so underwhelmed with Justin Andersons college stats. Maybe he’s better but he looks awfully ThrAGNoFy. Aminu should lead these guys in minutes and could very well have a solid 12er worthy year. Same goes for Davis but his FTs last year really pissed me off, but if you can handle that and he gets equal minutes to Aminu, then Davis will be better. Hood easily has the most upside of the group but he’s got to fight for minutes and I’m not entirely sure he can hit the 30 mpg mark as easily as the other 2. Actually I kind of doubt it if everyone is healthy.

      In a dynasty where you keep lots of guys Hood would be #1 on my list. Davis 2nd, Aminu 3rd. Anderson dead last. Just for this year though, my money is on Ed Davis leading the group with Aminu being really close in overall rating.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Toni Vidal Ribes: Yo! Ummmm, D-first kinda guy for Anderson that I think could be last year’s Aminu at best. At worst he barely plays.

      I’m not looking at Slim’s response yet, but I’m gonna go Davis, Hood, Aminu Anderson. I think Davis has a great shot to start in Portland and Aminu gets replaced by next year (bey losing starting gig).

      Not surprised Slim went Hood first, I just don’t know if he brings enough across the stat line vs. Davis. Those 2 are close though

      Any time man!

      • Slim

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        @JB Gilpin: The only thing I would caution about Davis is the potential for a Plumlee/Vonleh pairing could really mess with his minutes. Also this is absolutely a tanking team which means Vonleh should get more opportunity late in the year. I imagine a Vonleh/Davis pairing is entirely possible too, but they traded their draft pick for Plumlee and my guess is he gets the 1st chance to start.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: Well it was a late 1st rounder so I don’t know if that’s big a deal for Plumlee. But it’ll be a late preseason call and switch all the time I’m sure. It’s gonna be a mess to own. Davis is fringy 12 team last pick anyway. What a junky mess in Portland

  4. Dante Green says:
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    Is Patrick Patterson a sleeper candidate??

    • Slim

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      @Dante Green: It’s tough. I don’t see him starting next to JV. The interior defense would really struggle. I expect to see Carroll and James Johnson get minutes at PF and I wouldn’t be shocked to see James Johnson as the starter. My thoughts… basically the same as last year, which was solid but not really 12er worthy. In an absolute best case scenario, Patterson starts and gets 33+ min, he would still be sub 1.0 steal and block, poor FG%, maybe 6.5-7.5 boards, and 1.5 3s. Low TOs, decent FTs but with nearly no volume. Best case I still think he’s just a streamer in a 12er for a 3 or 2 and a couple boards.

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        @Slim: I was kinda hoping he could be big this coming season. LOL anybody on your mind that could do what K.Thompson, P.Gasol, Draymond G., J.Butler did last season? I mean nobody really expected these guys to go HAM last season. Haha thanks man

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Dante Green: @Slim: Ummmm, I think Patterson could start next to JV! Defense wouldn’t be THAT bad. Wow, Carroll at the 4? I dunno about that. I think Patterson stretching the floor a little better gives him a better shot to start than Pattterson. But I don’t disagree Patterson will be 12er stream range most likely.

        We expected Green to go ham! And Butler we were way high on too! http://www.fantasypros.com/nba/players/jimmy-butler.php?week=draft

        But yeah, not 2nd round value haha.

        Ummmm, Eric Bledsoe and Wiggins I see taking big steps up, but they’re like 3-4 round at worst on draft day. I could see Elfrid Payton taking a big leap. And Danilo Gallinari is gonna be a huge sleeper for me, DEN still rebuilding, he’ll get a ton of work, another year off knee issues and hopefully healthy, and his 2nd half was unreal.

        Good to see ya man!

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: It’s entirely possible but I don’t think a JV/PitPat pairing is going to work. I’m pretty sure Patterson mostly played next Amir last year. They signed Scola… watchout! <– Sarcasm… I hope. But I do imagine Patterson gets ranked in the top 150 and gets drafted, I just know I'm not going to stretch it into the top 100 to grab him.

          Wiggins is a good one. I hope we're the highest on Gobert this year. I've been watching Elfrid and I don't know. His shot isn't there and there are so many offensive weapons on that team. I think he's still going to be a bit of a niche guy a la Rubio. McCollum might be an absolute beast this year. Maybe a bit ThrAGNoFy but I've always thought he could be a high end steals guy too. Hell he might be a 20PPG guy this year. Someone besides Lillard needs to score. Marcus Smart seems to be a popular sleeper. I wouldn't be shocked to see him nudge the top 50. If Parsons stays healthy he might have a huge year. Otto Porter looks like the starter and he played really well during the playoffs. He's on my radar. With Carroll out of town and no real replacement I could see Korver getting more minutes at SF and Teague and Schroeder playing more together. Schroeder is easily top 150. That's all i've got for now.

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            @Slim: yea, I knew you guys called it! But it wasnt til a month into the season that I stumbled upon razzball, damn. I wish it was way earlier!

            Wow that was an awesome insight, Slim! I really hope McCollum gets more mins than Henderson!

            • Slim

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              @Dante Green: I guess it’s a pretty even position battle at the moment. Obviously McCollum would be much better for us and even if Hendu starts I expect 28+ minutes for CJ as the 6th man. Maybe CJ would be better in that role since he could be a heavy usage guy when Lillard sits for a couple minutes. Hendu had a little hip surgery and it doesn’t sound too serious, but he’s also in the last year of his contract and doesn’t really fit the rebuilding mold.

              • JB Gilpin

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                @Dante Green: @Slim: Yeah def not top 100 for PitPat at all.

                Rubio/Elfrid seems like a plausible comp. I think Elfrid has a tad more O. Mmmmmm McCollum is a good one, I thought for sure they’d bring back Matthews… I would imagine they get so frustrated with Aminu’s shot they start Hendo at the 3 haha.

                Hendo is great trade bait too. A contender might want him as a backup for a 2nd rounder

  5. Clyde Prompto says:
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    Damn, I hope every trade deadline/free agency period is as crazy as these past ones. The Mavs are EFFED. I wonder if they can pivot to going small/uptempo and try to take Jennings off of Detroit’s hands. Or maybe they can convince Portland to flip Miles Plumlee to them. Cuban is going to go scorched earth, I can’t wait.

    • Slim

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      @Clyde Prompto: There’s a lot of guys who haven’t actually signed yet. Maybe RoLo goes there? I don’t know what’s going to happen but yeah, No freaking WAY Cuban is done. Parsons can play some PF if they need to but neither he nor Dirk can play center so I think we can scrap that plan. I don’t know. They are in such a bad way right now and it’s not like they have any assets to try to trade.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Clyde Prompto: @Slim: This Mavs thing has been GOLD! If Rolo pulls out from the Knicks, there will be so much more drama haha.

        Yeah I dunno what they’ll do either. TRADE FOR BARGNANI!

        • Clyde Prompto says:
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          @JB Gilpin: Why trade for Bargs when Javale is there for the taking!

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Clyde Prompto: @Clyde Prompto: Haha McGee for the win! Except they went for Zaza… Eh well it could be worse! You had the right team, just wrong center! I heard he played in some sort of rec league or something but still out of the NBA

      • Clyde Prompto says:
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        @Slim: Yeah I just looked at the Mavs roster and woof. I’m not sure what they’d offer even if they found someone willing to part with a big. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but whatever happened with Larry Sanders?

  6. Ryan says:
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    So apparently Deron Williams is buying out of his contract with BKN and going to the Mavs. Center is still a mystery. Does Jarrett Jack become must own in 12ers?

    A few more updates: Enes Kanter signs a max deal with OKC. Jeremy Lin signs with the New Orleans King Baby Cakes, and the Celtics trade away useless Gerald Wallace for David Lee. That last move should sound crazy, but relax Razzball Nation. The trade allowed GS to occupy Draymond (Donkayy) Green without occupying a $30 mil luxury tax.

    Lin should be an underrated fantasy option if Holiday goes down again.. (plz don’t) I would like Lee for a fantasy resurgence if it were not for the clusterfuck that is the Boston Celtics’ depth chart. Lastly, I’ve been watching a lot of Summer League games and just can’t say enough good things about: Super Mario, Aaron Gordon, Myles Turner, Marcus Smart, Rodney Hood, Joe Young, Brenden Dawson, and Willie Reed.

    • Clyde Prompto says:
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      @Ryan: I replied to your post below because I was so pumped about Aaron Gordon I forgot how to properly reply to comments.

      • Slim

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        @Clyde Prompto: Aaron Gordon is going to be awesome… for a punt FT team. He might not be ownable in Roto at all. He looks like an extreme FT volume guy. I’m scared.

    • Slim

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      @Ryan: What about Stanley Johnson?!? I thought he was the Orlando MVP.

      I think DLee’s days of playing 30 min are in the past. He shouldn’t start and should see only about 20-25 min as a 2nd team scorer. No surprise with Kanter but it’s such a terrible signing. I think they are a better team with Adams starting and Kanter coming off the bench. I don’t know about Lin. If Jrue goes down I imagine Tyreke becomes defacto PG again and they seem to like Norris Cole. Lin might be a 12er worthy guy at some point but I definitely won’t hold and wait.

      Jack as must own… I mean… top 150 for sure. Top 100? Not for me. Best case seems to be about 0.5 a 3 and sub 1.0 steal, maybe 16/6 asts with 3-3.5 TOs. Alright maybe he’s top 100 but he’s going to turn 32 this year and I don’t think there’s upside for more than I mentioned. I guess he’s a 3rd PG in a 12er, barely top 100, but I’m taking upside PGs like Clarkson and Smart before him for sure.

  7. Clyde Prompto says:
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    Nice to hear from someone with eyes on the Summer League. I’m pretty jazzed about Smart myself. One thing though, Lin signed with Charlotte, not New Orleans. I’m still not used to the Hornets being Charlotte’s team again either. BRING BACK THE BOBKITTIES!

    • Ryan says:
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      @Clyde Prompto: Lol my bad some sort of weird name-location thing must have happened when I read Lin signs with Hornets. Ugh that makes him completely irrelevant then. And yes bring back the Bobkitties and Super Sanics!

      • Slim

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        @Ryan: Lin on Charlotte is better but still not really worth holding and waiting.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Ryan: @Clyde Prompto: @Slim: Oh yeah I think Jack is must owned, we just talked him on the Pod, slightly worse than George Hill and I think top 100 worthy. Sounds like I’ll be pushing Jack harder than Slim for another year haha. Love Occupy got the deal!

          Lin ends up with Hornets. Kemba I think will be healthy so I don’t see him doing too much in 25 combo G backup minutes. Maybe closer to 20. Ah you’re there below! @Ryan: @Slim:

          Stanley Johnson looks a lot better than I thought. Myles Turner is def the biggest takeaway though since he has such an open path for PT.

          Ugh, Bobcats again, Really?!??!?! Awful. Would love seeing the Sonics back though!

          I think the Marcus Smart hype train is going to be way out of control again. Slim is way smarter (hah!) than me, but top 50ish seems maddddddddd high. Can’t keep Terry Rozier benched!

  8. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    My REL team is shedding a tear right now with news that Embiid is gonna need a second surgery. It’s too bad cause the kid has so much potential. Sad really. Hopefully summer league Aaron Gordon is for real at least.

    • Slim

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Yeah that’s a tough one but you seem primed for a playoff run without him. Aaron Gordon is a good one, although winning FTs is going to be tough if he gets a lot of playing time.

      My team on the other hand was demolished by the draft and free agency. Clarkson has to deal with Russell, Sullinger has to deal with Amir and DLee, Kanter crushes Steven Adams, Ross loses to Carroll, and Monroe destroys Henson. Next year looks like a rebuild for me.

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        @Slim: Yeah FT% will be tough with both Noel and Gordon, though I could see both guys improving a bit. Plus the rest of my team should shoot FT pretty well.

        I’m pretty lucky that the draft and free agency didn’t hurt me too much so far. Philly drafting Okafor hurts Noel, Harris going back to the Magic is disappointing, and of course Embiid. Other than that its been alright. I see your team was pummeled in the off season though. The Lakers crushed Clarkson with Russell and then signing Lou as well. It’s not like he was basically their best player last year or anything.

        You can tell the Thunder are doing anything they can to keep Durant, the fact that they’re even thinking about matching Kanter’s 4 year/$70 million dollar offer sheet is pretty crazy. I think today is the day they have to decide, so I’m curious as to what they do. It’s also funny in that I think he’d be making more than Harden is. Oops!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: @A Hill O’ Beans: Yikes I’ve been pretty lucky! O’Quinn with a for sure job, Seraphin could go to the Mavs and start, W Chandler re-signs and will start, Cojo a better role, Knight re-signs, PitPat might start. Liking my odds. Aldridge may hurt Kawhi a tad, but that’s about my only big negative.

          Damn, yeah Harden got slighted! OKC about to pay so much luxury tax hah!

  9. Dante Green says:
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    Your thoughts on Noel after the news that Embiid is going to need yet another surgery on his foot?

    • Slim

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      @Dante Green: I don’t think it has too much effect. The problem now is going to be Okafor. He takes a lot of shots and really clogs the paint. I like Noel for defensive stats but he may have trouble clearing 10 ppg or over 9 boards. Right this second I would put Noel at about…

      .470/.620/0/10/8.5/1.5/2/2/1.8 :32 min

      but admittedly that is probably a lot closer to his floor than ceiling. We still don’t know what PG is going to look like either. My fingers are crossed that it’s going to be Pierre Jackson. Huge fantasy potential if he’s 100% from his achilles injury. I keep going back and forth with whether or not Noel is top 50. Maybe a little bit dependent on the 1st 3 picks as to whether or not he’s worth a 4th round pick in a 12er. Like if I had Brow or Gobert, esp Gobert, I would probably be looking for something else in the 4th.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Dante Green: @Slim: Yeah Slim’s proj. looks a tad low. But I agree with the analysis. I think he’s gonna stay in the 40s for me, but dependent on team build at that point. Although averaging almost a rainbow line, mmmmm. I would go higher in FT and maybe 12 points, but I like the rest

  10. Nick says:
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    Harkless to Portland! I was pretty excited about targeting aminu but with harkless in the fold it’s anyone’s game hey? I actually like harkless’ upside more than aminu minus the blocks, but could be a position battle for starting job. What do you guys think, touch either one of them or wait to see what happens in preseason?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Nick: Yeah great pickup by them. Totally agree his upside is better, but I think Aminu starts to open the yr. A certain team build I could mayyyyybe see getting Aminu in a 14er, Harkless maybe in a 18 or 20 team league as a flyer – pretty far down there… And the Blazers look like they might tank this yr, so they might play whoever is WORSE not better hahahaa

    • Slim

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      @Nick: Psst… Don’t sleep on Allen Crabbe. Steals, Blocks, and 3s, and he’s played well so far in summer league. I think if all these Portland wings got the same minutes Allen Crabbe would lead them in value.

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