Mmmmmmm, is there anything saucier in fantasy basketball than a rookie fresh from a great Summer League tearing up preseason?!  Obviously Ricky Rubio‘s haircut is the only thing saucier to me!

After Stanley Johnson posted some crazy stats in Vegas (16.2 PTS 1.8 STL 1.0 BLK), StanVan has given his prodigal son StanJo a ton of run in preseason and the rook has taken off with multi-3PTM games in his first 3, a rainbow line last Thursday against BKN (12/7/2/2/2) and frequently getting to the stripe.  Unfortunately he’s cooled off a tad the past two games with a little bit of a dud last night, and he’s in a pretty robust rotation of SG and SF, mainly with the much more boring Marcus Morris playing solid this preseason as well.  But even at likely a bench role to start the year, Johnson can play anywhere from the 1-to-4, as he’s already played some out-of-position PG this preseason.  In the last update to my Top 200 ranks, I moved StanJo to 94th for the rainbow line upside.  I’m not going too crazy for the rookie nookie, but he’s certainly worth a look around 100 in the 9th round.  If only he had a twin like Morris – but also named Stanley – then we could have dueling StanJos in the NBA!  Here’s what else has gone on through the past week of preseason:

Doug McDermott McBuckets has me saying McFucket to the Bulls’ SF/PF position!  Ugh, I hate this mess…  Tony Snell is still in the mix, plus there’s Taj Gibson to play some PF as well.  Eventually Mike Dunleavy will be the NBA’s most boring starter as well…  I think best case scenario for McBuckets is what Nikola Mirotic did last year, minus the boards and defensive stats.  That’s like saying, “best case scenario for a vegan pizza is it’s a normal pizza without real cheese, crust and sausage!”  McDermott is showing us all he can Dougie with a ton of points and treys this preseason, but through 5 games has 2 steals and no blocks, with both steals in the first game.  4 straight 0-fers.  He’s a stretch ThrAGNOF that might have some nice games if instant O is working off the bench, but that’s about all I see this year.  I moved him into my ranks, but still well out of ownership in 12ers.

Bobby Portis – Dammit, more depth for Chicago at forward!  The Bulls could pretty much split into two teams ala the Cubs and White Sox at this point…  Portis had 9 points in 5 minutes at half last night!  I haven’t seen something this crazy from a Portis since Clinton’s pimp outfits when he was on the Redskins…  What’s crazy is he’s hitting treys ON TOP of the heavy rebounding numbers so far this preseason (gobbled 49 REB his first 4 games).  I’ll say he needs two injuries before he’s a must-add, one injury from being a watch list.

Isaiah Canaan By attrition, it looks like Canaan in D Minor is going to start the year as Philly’s “PG”.  Yes, that was deserving of the quotes, but he did have 18 dimes through his first 3 preseason games.  Sure he had none last time out, but at least he did chip in 4 steals in that one.  He still feels like a last pick kinda flier, as Tony Wroten will be taking the role when ready.

Rashad Vaughn – Putting his name out there for a strong ThrAGNOF watch list candidate!  Hit 7 treys through 3 preseason games, averaging 16.7 PPG.  I doubt he gets enough run initially, but keeping him on my radar.  My Rashadar.

John Henson DEAR GOD PLAY THE GUY!  YOU ALREADY PAID THE GUY!  Has a 3 block and 4 block game already in 3 preseason appearances, and has shockingly hit 8-8 FT.  All culminated in a 16/10/2/1/4 breakout last Tuesday night, hitting 5-8 FG and 6-6 FT.  Given it was against the Cavs benching everyone, but man am I glad I ranked him well, he could be fantasy’s best bench player this year (well, minus IT2/3 and well, I’m probably forgetting someone…).

Derrick Williams – Scoring a lot of points, hitting his FG and FT, but that’s about it.  9 TO in two games.  Bleh.

Kristaps Porzingis The minutes limit stuff early scared me off, but he’s just going to be too good not to play more as the season wears on.  I think Philly Phil J is trying to lessen the pressure on the rook as well, especially after he was booed when selected, just because New York fans don’t want to learn how to pronounce names…  Then again, neither do I, that’s why writing is so much easier!  Porzy is worth drafting sometime right after 100 for the upside, especially if you’re pretty well-rounded and can afford the upside stash-iness.

Sasha Vujacic – Yikes, just what we need, more issues with how the Knicks will handle their G depth…  Derek Fisher decided to ask his bridge club if anyone wanted to come play for the Knicks, and thankfully Vujacic said yes…  Fish and Phil like him to help teach the triangle, and he’s getting some preseason run and taking some shots with Arron Afflalo dealing with AHamstring.  I moved Afflalo and Langston Galloway a good bit down in my ranks; I really want no part of the shituation.

Karl-Anthony Towns Just looks incredible out there, and I’m ashamed I didn’t have him as the #1 rookie off the board out of the gate.  “I wanted to be different, OK?!”  “I just wanted to experiment!”  “Everyone experiments in college!”  Hitting his FT, getting swats, getting steals, making his shots…  It looks damn sexy out there.  He’s even attempted two treys in 4 preseason games!  Man, if he hits 0.5 3PTM a game, his metrics are going to be nuts.

Zach LaVine Named the opening night SG, and just for S’s and G’s (see what I did there!?) they brought him off the bench last night in the exhibition against the Raps.  He’s shooting pretty bad thus far, but up until last night was keeping the TO in check and still getting to the line.  Nice to see a couple blocks in there as well.  I have him right at 100, certainly worth a pick in that range for the upside.

Nicolas Batum Vintage Batum, oui!  14/10/5/2/0 in Shanghai, hitting a trey and hitting 7-7 FT.  Crazy world, a Frenchman playing basketball for an American franchise in China…  I think he has a solid bounceback.

Patrick Patterson He said some really mean things about Slim’s family…  But look at him last night!  Setting the basketball world on fire for 8/1/0/2/0, 2 treys and 2-2 FT.  Slim, it’s looking up!

R.J. Hunter Whoa, how about that preseason debut last night?!  11/4/4/4/1 with only 1 TO, hitting 3-8 FG (3-7 3PTM 2-2 FT).   He’s not even a lock to make the opening night roster, but if you look at Boston’s depth chart, they really lack length at SG.  Of course, I have some REL bias since I was really happy to nab him for a $1 in our auction.  Let him play, B-Rad!

John Jenkins Certainly seems preseason-y, but is scoring at a Wilt Chamberlain rate (take that either way you want) with 16, 19, and 26 PTS totals through 3 preseason games, off an 11-18 FG outing.  He doesn’t really do anything else, but might be an early, deep-league ThrAGNOF streamer.

Clint Capela A guy Slim and I have talked about a lot this off-season as a great source of blocks with your final pick, CC [not Sabathia] had a nice 12/10 dubdub with a swat in 25 minutes, getting a start with Dwight Howard resting [not in rehab].  Just at the eye level, Capela looks goooooood.

Joffrey Lauvergne – The “don’t jokingly say anything about his name being kinda close to lasagna because he’s French” Lauvergne has remained hot through all 4 preseason games now, hitting at least 57% from the field and scoring in double figures every night.  While the boards are nice as well, very low in AST/STL/BLK, with nary a swat thus far.  Makes me worry this is a preseason mirage.  Did I say mirage?  I meant preseason fromage!  There, is that food joke acceptable for Joffrey?!

Jeff Green Grizz seem to always need O, and looks like they’re leaning towards starting Green.  He’s really boring, but if you really want to take him with your last pick I won’t fight you.  Any earlier and he’s going to be a pretty early cut.  Geez, what happened to this guy,?!  Look at this line he put up when he wasn’t even universally owned yet in 12-13!

C.J. McCollum One of the bigger “buzzy” names – really since free agency ended and Portland got no one – I still feel like he’s going to be over-drafted.  I got him up to 101 in my ranks, which likely prices me out.  I see his FG% being a really tough drain, with not as high AST/STL as people would hope for.

Meyers Leonard I think fantasy owners overvalue the unknown for young guys about to get their first crack at big minutes, as Meyers Leonard also feels very over-drafted to me.  His last line was great – 19/8/2/1/2 on 5-10 FG (4-7 3PTM 5-6 FT) – but the blocks have never surfaced in the regular season and he’s still turning it over a little too much.

Otto Porter Started preseason with a bang for 22/5/2 on 8-10 shooting, but then 33 minutes of blahhhhhhhhh against the Knicks.  9/4/2/1/0 shooting 4-11.  I think we get more blah than bang, but closer to the 33 minutes than the 24 in the opener, which by attrition will make him usable.

Kris Humphries – The Wiz want a stretch 4 out there, AND YOU’RE STARTING DAMMIT!   Humphries is out there complaining at the extra running playing on the wing, but after getting facials like this, it might be worth the extra conditioning…  My question to you is, is he really that different than Meyers Leonard?  Wait they’re totally different, Humphries can block shots!

Paul George The Pacers want a stretch 4 out there, AND YOU’RE PLAYING PF DAMMIT!  Except Vogel did say they’re likely playing big against the Grizz in the opener, with George likely heading to the 3…  PG13 started red hot including a 32 point game last Tuesday night, but then showed his streakiness shooting 1 for his last 9 from deep and back-to-back pedestrian stat lines (given he only played 12 minutes Tuesday night).  Seems like he’s solidly placed right at my 20ish rank…

I’m in love with Aaron Gordon I hope you’ve drafted a fair number of your teams by now, because Aaron Gordon is about to get all aboard the hype-train.  Played only 17 minutes in his preseason debut, and just did his thang for 10/3/1/2/1 on 5-10 shooting, missing a trey.  No TO.  No mistakes.  He is infallible.

 

Of course there’s a ton going on, so if you have any thoughts on preseason performances so far, shoot them below!  Also don’t forget to sign up for 1, maybe 2, OK definitely 3, should be 4, and almost certainly 5 RCL leagues!  Still have several leagues open, and we could always use more commishes to open a few more leagues.  And if you love the REL 20-team dynasty talk, commenter CTMN has opened a 20-team dynasty league for Razzball Nation with 4 spots still open – sign up today!

 

 

  1. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    Hey JB, not really fantasy related but apropos none the less, for Patterson’s blurb you forgot to mention how the Raps were down 3 with 20 seconds to go. They threw the inbound to him, wide open standing at the three point line, and the ball went right through his hands and out of bounds. Which made them lose….

    • Matty

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Raps PF is going to be an avoid for me…especially with Casey saying James Johnson will get minutes exclusively at the 4…Scola will get his floor time…DeMarre in small ball lineups…

      What. A. Mess.

      I was excited about PatPat having a chance to show his stuff with a starting role, but he’s done a whole lotta nuthin’ so far this preseason.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @A Hill O’ Beans: @Matty: Haha I didn’t watch any video, but that’s hilarious. Yup it is not looking good for that position…

  2. Slim

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    Well there is one difference… Hump is in a timeshare and won’t play 30 min, and is also WAY down the pecking order for shots. Meyers Leonard probably will hit 30 min and looks like the 3rd option on offense and top guy for the pick and role/pop (also known as Gortats job). Oh and Hump is going into his year 30 and had all of 0.7 blocks per-36 last year. I bet Leonard out blocks Humphries this year. At 7’1″ with consistent playing time he should run into his fair share. Then there’s the whole thing of Leonard playing to his strengths while Humphries is trying to remake his game so he can stay on the court. Hmm… maybe that’s more than one difference. For the preseason Hump is shooting 34%, 31% for 3s while Myers is shooting 48% from the field and 47% of 3s. There’s a very good chance Hump has a terrible shooting year while Meyers might actually help in the category while giving lots of 3s, a rare combination.

    Now if we’re making player comparisons, Jeff Green and Wilson Chandler are about the same fantasy player but with a sizable gap in the rankings. A bit more 3s for Wilson and FT% with a decent volume (considering how late he’s being drafted) from Jeffrey. If Jeff Green starts and Wilson doesn’t (both are very possible) then Jeff Green will be the better fantasy player with more minutes.

    • Slim

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      @Slim: Patterson looks like he might have reached his ceiling, which looks eerily similar to the stat lines Marvin Williams puts up.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Slim: @Slim: Haha I know, I was being silly. But Humphries will easily out block him.

        Yeah we talked Green vs. Chandler on the Pod, def think there’s a gap

  3. CTMN says:
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    Yo JB, thanks sooooooo much! My league filled up fully, 20/20, within a couple hours of this post. I can’t believe it, thank you!!!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @CTMN: Awesome man, glad to help! Keep us up with how the league goes!

      • CTMN says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I will!

  4. Clyde Prompto says:
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    Towns looks absolutely spectacular. He’s a goofy, likable dude too. I’m all in. I’m liking Batum a lot as well. Just a couple of years ago he was a 1 BLK/STL/3PT guy who chipped in nearly 5 AST and over 5 REB. Dude’s only 26, he can’t be washed up yet.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Clyde Prompto: Yup, totally agree. Like him a lot.

      And yup, I think Batum has a nice season, I have him ranked pretty favorably pretty sure… Wish fantasypros player pages worked right now

  5. johny cueto's hair says:
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    woooo getting excited

    so we talked about Y! rankings, what about ESPN? I know several in my live draft will be referencing that. Any steals? Is Wiggins ranked sub 100 again?!

    are we expecting defensive stats from Kristaps? All I know is he has a pretty shot and wish I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard he needs to gain weight.

    • Slim

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      @johny cueto’s hair: Yeah I’ve got him just shy of 1 block in 22 min I believe. With 30 he could possibly get to 1.5. In 21 min overseas last year he was at 0.9 steals in only 21.4 min. Definitely upside for defensive stats. I’d say he finishes a bit underwhelming in boards though. Eventually (not this year) he could easily be a 2 3s, 2 blocks guy with 2 good percents. Yeah, those guys just don’t exist. This years draft class of bigs is one of the best I’ve ever seen. Esp when considering 3s plus blocks and good FT shooting.

      • dom says:
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        @Slim: Slim, I just realized the playoff format in one of my leagues is 2 rounds of 2 weeks, starting week 20. so does this actually mean less worrying about playoff schedule?

        this would appear to completely change your playoff rankings. for instance, basketballmonster is telling me Jimmy Butler & da bulls have 13 playoff games, while the Spurs have 15.

        the range of # of playoff games is 16 (Boston, GS, NYK) to 12 (CLE and Dallas) how should I interpret all of this?

    • kai says:
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      @johny cueto’s hair:
      These guys are all ranked at least two rounds too low:
      Al Horford (48)
      Al Jefferson (57)
      Kemba Walker (60)
      Ricky Rubio (80)
      Trevor Ariza (92)
      Terrence Jones (98)
      Elfrid Payton (99)
      Myles Turner (111)

      • JB Gilpin

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        @johny cueto’s hair: @Slim: @kai: Yup big raise for Kristaps in my last update, really excited even though the minutes will start slow.

        Rubio 80?!?!?!?!?! Stupid ESPN. Elfrid 99 is worse. Yikes

  6. Kris says:
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    Hey Jb and Slim,

    So I just finished my first draft for this year.

    13-team-league. H2H. And, let’s just say it’s hard skipping some guys.

    Lillard
    K. Thompson
    Wiggins
    T. Jones
    Drummond
    Arron Gordon
    Myles Turner
    Jusuf Nurkic
    Goran Dragic
    Reggie Jackson
    Elfrid Payton
    John Henson
    T.J. Warren

    I am always below top 5 in this league of ours and I want something higher than that this year. 🙂 Any thoughts, specially, any wanted trades for some of my people? Last 2 picks were so hard for me but yeah, there they go. Planning on trading Drum for Gobert but I really do have a feeling it will be a monster season for Drum.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Kris: Pretty nice draft! Great PG depth and looks like you have decent FT% even with Drummond and Henson. Wow, definitely taking Gobert, his FT% help would be a big step up for your squad.

      • Kris says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Trades I need to be taking now. How about my last 2 picks? I feel like dropping them or trading them for someone or two. Any thoughts?

      • Kris says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Just now that my trade for Gobert ahs been rejected. Any thoughts who I should go for and with what trade? I need this team to be an all-star fantasy team. LOL!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Kris: Boooo, wish the deal went through! I’m not huge on Warren he could go, but I like Henson to start the yr. All ready looking all-star-ish my man! Good PG, good C, good 3s… I dunno if you need to do any trades right now

  7. Sick em Fritz says:
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    How much should I drop on towns, stanji and/or porzingis respectively in a 12 team 13 spot h2h keeper auction league with $7 flat yearly increase?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Sick em Fritz: Whewwww, interesting. Towns certainly is worth a big investment. $50ish? StanJo seems closer to $5-$10, so at $12-$17 he might be a value. Porzingis, I think he could be a buzzy guy at $25ish next year, so wouldn’t go over $20

    • Slim

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      @Sick em Fritz: $7 Inflation is a huge number. I would say $35ish for Towns maybe higher if you think hes a 1st rounder as soon as next year. $20 might be high for Stanley but someones gonna pay it. Tough to imagine him around at $34 year 3 though. Maybe… ideally Porzingis comes cheaper, he’ll probably take a little longer before he puts in a full good year in. $15 maybe. Gives you an extra year. But overall I think $7 inflation prices out the vast majority of rookies for me. Seems to me the goal would be a bunch of guys in their prime now, or at least real soon.

  8. kai says:
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    In love with Stanley! Over drafted him for $9 but traded him for elfrid ($6). Feel ok about it but now I have to get him back again!

    Morris the Lesser is gonna be useful. He’s gonna play a lot of PF, even before Ilyasova gets hurt. It’s too bad KCP isn’t tearing up the preseason as usual.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @kai: Damn awesome move! But yeah, he looks great. Yup I like Morris this year, minutes could get crunched until that 6 foot turkey indeed gets hurt…

  9. eric says:
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    whatsup razzballers! about this money league i have joined 18team 9cats h2h
    1. (10) John Wall PG
    2. (27) Draymond Green SF,PF
    3. (46) Marcin Gortat C
    4. (63) Isaiah Thomas PG
    5. (82) Dwyane Wade PG,SG
    6. (99) Myles Turner C
    7. (118) Arron Afflalo SG,SF
    8. (135) Otto Porter SF
    9. (154) Kyle O’Quinn PF,C
    10. (171) Greivis Vasquez PG,SG
    11. (190) Cory Joseph PG
    12. (207) Nemanja Bjelica PF
    13. (226) Steven Adams C
    adam evaluated my team and mentioned if im not mistaken i need to improve my 3s cats
    i actually tried to offer a trade and the deal was my gortat, wade, afflalo for his gobert, lavine and nick young? did iwon on this trade? more power to you guys!!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @eric: Yo! Starting with the trade, wow that’s a blockbuster! But yeah i think you need an elite big, I really like that trade if it’s taken.

      Yeah 3s might be a tad light, scoring is a little light as well. Losing Wade hurts, nut I think REB and BLK are bigger needs. I would certainly keep an eye out for scorers when the season starts, for example putting John Jenkins on your watch list.

      Thanks for stopping by!

      • eric says:
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        @JB Gilpin: @eric: Yo! Starting with the trade, wow that’s a blockbuster! But yeah i think you need an elite big, I really like that trade if it’s taken.

        Yeah 3s might be a tad light, scoring is a little light as well. Losing Wade hurts, nut I think REB and BLK are bigger needs. I would certainly keep an eye out for scorers when the season starts, for example putting John Jenkins on your watch list.

        Appreciate the coaching jb! I actually open up about this trade since MR tower is still not showing any production yet on the preseason. Its like buy low thing maybe? Learning from you that gortat is not progressing anymore and dwade somehow is like a walking dead (given his history). ITs still on the process hopefully it will not be veto.
        APpreciate all your passion and dedication razzballsters! Your website is awesome!!!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @eric: I don’t read too much into preseason and he looked good in international play this summer, so if Gobert’s owner is legit a little worried, sure I’d exploit it! No way that should be a veto trade…

          Thanks so much man!

  10. Connor says:
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    Can you give me any general strategy tips for a 9cat H2H, that’s 10 team, start 10, roster 13. We’re allowed 4 free agent pick ups per week with a $100 FAAB budget. This is only my second time playing fantasy basketball and last year my league’s had much bigger benches, so streaming was a pretty obvious choice. I don’t know exactly how to go about that this year though.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Connor: Cool, so first question is – are $0 bids allowed in FAAB? If so, then I would stream as normal and use all 4 of those moves with scrub $0 adds. Then for the real upside guys worth adding and holding start dibbling into the budget.

      I always like to ThrAGNOF if you can do the $0 moves, which is not to draft heavy on 3s and stream 3-pt guys. If every bid does have to be a $1 or more, I would try to get a balanced team so I won’t be worried about streaming cats as much

      • Connor says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yes it’s $0 minimum. Totally meant to include that. Appreciate the help JB. I probably post my lineup after my draft in a couple of weeks to hear your thoughts.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Connor: Sounds like a plan, stream ahead this yr!

  11. miles proudfoot says:
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    What’s good?! Thanks for all the preseason advice, so helpful! I has my first draft last night. Shallow 10 team, h2h 9 cat league, 12 players.

    ADavis 1
    Dray 20
    Bledsoe 21
    Dragic 40
    Wiggins 41
    White side 60
    Kemba 61
    Rubio 80
    Tjones 81
    Clarkson 100
    Myles Turner 101
    D Collison 120

    Bc I landed Davis ended up waiting on big men and it seemed like the ones I was targeting went right before my pick. Also few wings. I got pg happy and ended up with perhaps too many. glaring weakness I think may be rebounding, 3s and fg% (?) but some of the smaller guys I think have done ok rebounding abilities.

    My buddy who had an opposite draft ended up with a bunch of big men and needs guards. Has offered gortat or dieng. Do I need to make moves or just see how the team plays out? Most
    Of the guards have pg/sg designations. Also AGordon and SJohnson are on the wire, wish I had more spots open!

    Thank you!

    • miles proudfoot says:
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      @miles proudfoot: also, I know you love him but was thinking of trying to move Rubio and perhaps Walker bc of percents and previous injury history, or Clarkson bc of playoff schedule. If I do, just need to think of reasonable targets. Was kind of surprised all three fell so low.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @miles proudfoot: What’s good man?! Hah when I started reading I thought it was an auction and I was like, Brow at $1?!?!??!?!

        Lovvvvve this draft. Can’t believe Bledsoe fell to 20 and Dray for that matter and love the combos with Davis. All your guys are guys I have above ADP this year. I actually think boards and FG% will be solid, 3s is light and might need streaming. I don’t think I’d trade a guard just yet… Damn yeah Gordon should be owned, might grab him over Collison

        • miles proudfoot says:
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          @JB Gilpin: thanks man! glad to hear you think I’m looking alright besides 3’s, that’s why they pay you the big bucks…or at the least crown and cokes. I may try a 2 for 1 including Collison then pick up Gordon. Thanks a lot!

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @miles proudfoot: Hah yeah all about the crown and cokes, not $ 🙂 Any time!

  12. Dorian S. says:
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    Heya Gang!

    Thanks for the read. Love the love for Stan Man (seriously, it is a nickname of his), as it makes me feel even better for picking him up, can’t wait!

    From what I’ve read here, there’s a lot of quality bigs and while I could use another guard for my Madness team, I struck out on guys like Clarkson, Caldwell-Pope, Tucker, Bradley and a few others. All of them went before me. I did at least manage to pick up Alec Burks.

    So my team in the 14 team 8 cat (no TOs, woo), 3 keeper Madness league is sitting like this:
    Guard – Emmanuel Mudiay *fourth*
    Guard – Zach Lavine *fourth*
    Guard – Trey Burke *sixth*
    Forward – Draymond Green *keeper*
    Forward – Andre Drummond *keeper*
    Forward – Kenneth Faried *first*
    Centre – Rudy Gobert *keeper*
    Utility – Myles Turner *second*
    Bench – Stanley Johnson *fifth*
    Bench – Alec Burks *seventh*

    With my last pick, should I maybe nab Kristaps or perhaps go after R.J. Hunter? Both seem like they could be “I wanna own” type guys.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Dorian S.: Hey! Haha Stan Man is good, I like StanJo though, it’s shorter!

      Definitely going Porzingis, but man you’re loaded up front. I think I mentioned this to you before, but I think I would look to move maybe Faried or Drummond for an awesome PG.

      Looking good though!

      • Dorian S. says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks as always JB. I’m hoping I could probably move one of them for something more. There isn’t really much left around.

        You mentioning Kris’ possible stats and I just thought I should grab him instead of Hunter, since he’ll be getting the time.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Dorian S.: Any time! Yeah Staps should be huge in the second half, might take a little patience but it should pay off

  13. OldMilwaukeePounders says:
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    JB & Slim –

    Do you guys believe that a full punt of FT% in a 10 team, 8 category auction league is a viable strategy?

    Looking at ESPN’s auction values, DeAndre Jordan, and Drummond are quite low priced. Having both of these guys and possibly Gobert all but ensures a “1” in FT%, but shouldn’t the team be a near lock for “10’s’ in REB,BLK, FG% at least? In theory, if I were to truly punt FT%, I should have plenty of money to spend on volume scorers and 3 guys to shore up my 3PTS, PTS and find some balance in FG% due to the heavy big man presence.

    I am doing some prep for this draft and I am seriously considering giving this a try. Do you think that it is a feasible strategy?

    Thanks!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @OldMilwaukeePounders: Viable? Maybe. But I hate punting especially in an 8 cat. And with it roto, i revise viable and amend it to no. Roto it’s so hard to win with a 1. In roto with 9 or more cats I like it more, since you can make it up in other areas.

      But I’ve never been a punter, I hate conceding anything before it starts. Any time!

      • OldMilwaukeePounders says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks, bro. Do you think it is possible to pair Gobert with one of Jordan or Drummond and not be doomed to the bottom tier for FT%?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @OldMilwaukeePounders: Nah, no way you don’t get a 1-3 in the cat with two. Gobert I don’t think will be that bad though, just those other two…

  14. Phranque (pronounced Frank) says:
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    Hi All,
    I am organizing a 10 team H2H Points league on Yahoo. There are only 7 CATS. They are:
    PTs….worth 1 pt.
    3/s….worth 3pts
    REBs… worth 2pts.
    BLKs…worth 8 pts.
    ASSts…worth 3 pts
    STLs…worth 8 pts
    TOs worth (-1 pt)

    The point values were set up to broadly approximate the comparative frequency of each CAT. It’ll obviously be a different ride than a H2H CATS league, but I’m expecting it to have room for lots of strategy and nerdy finger counting .

    The rosters will be 15 players. There will be NO gerneric F or G or utility positions. There will be 2 centers, 2 PFs, 2 SFs, 2 SGs, 2 PGs plus 5 on the bench.

    We have 4/10 slots filled. If this league interests you please check it out.
    It’s under Yahoo CUSTOM LEAGUES H2H points
    The league is called FANTASY HOOPLA
    The live draft is SUNDAY, 10/25th at 5:15 p.m.
    LEAGUE # 51387

    Phranque

  15. Dante Green says:
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    AGordonnn!! I hope Skiles realizes that if he wants a faster squad, he needs to give AGordon more minutes than Channing Frye! Damnn, I like the hype the two rookies StanJo and KAT are getting, I wish I had at least one of em!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Dante Green: Oh he’s for sure playing more than Frye! Such a better player… I like StanJo fine, but I love I got Gordon in my first redraft 🙂

      • Dante Green says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yass if I’m correct AGordon was your 9th round pick! Potential steal of the year???

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Dante Green: that’s right, let’s hope so!

  16. O'Brien says:
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    Hey all, I’ve been on this site for about a month now and love it!! i only have one question… whats the hell does ‘ThrAGNOF’ stand for?? I feel so on the outs not knowing this. haha

    • JB Gilpin

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      @O’Brien: Hey man, thanks so much! So it stands for “Threes Ain’t Got No Face”. Grey on baseball has a term he uses a lot called “SAGNOF” for steals or stolen bases have no face, in that you can stream them and don’t need to draft them high. Same for 3PT specialists, like JJ Redick. You can stream his 3s off the wire using whatever wings have good matchups. Hope that helps!

      • O'Brien says:
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        @JB Gilpin:
        Hey mate, Cheers i appreciate the insight. haha ill definitely be sending through my team for you to have a look at once my league gets their act together and drafts. I love fantasy Ball, only been playing for maybe 4 years even though I’ve been playing basketball since i was 12. This websites great and the community appears active and respectful. Rare to find on the net these days.
        Keep up the good work.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @O’Brien: Hah cool, sounds like a plan! Hahaha, yup sounds like me, played hoops all growing up, but got into fantasy hoops after baseball and football. Yup, Razzball Nation has grown into something really awesome, really appreciate it!

  17. Dru says:
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    Looking for some insight. In a ten team keeper with round increasing each year, and can keep Gordon in the 11th this year, and Mozgov or Meyers in the 13th. For me, those will be picks 103 and 123. Leaning heavily towards Gordon, but thinking of just getting a draft pick in round 13 instead of keeping either Center. You think either are worth a keeper, or getting a C earlier, and draft young talent late.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Dru: Gotcha, you can keep more than just one right? I like Gordon the most, Meyers isn’t too far off at that value and hope he starts hot. Nah on mozgov

  18. Slimcompoop says:
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    What up JB? Totally preoccupied trying to buy a house and I got our H2H, 10-Team, keeper draft in two weeks. Keeper deadline is Monday. I’ve explained the rules of our league many times, so I won’t bore them with you again, but essentially, in a league that only scores the top-3 categories out of pts, reb, ast, blk and stl’s, which 8 player would you keep?

    Kemba
    Oladipo
    R-Jax
    George Hill

    Batum
    DeRozan
    Kawhi
    Wade
    Ariza

    Draymond

    Drummond
    DeAndre
    Favors
    Sullinger
    McGary

    I’m decided on seven, but I can’t choose the last dude. You’re thoughts are always appreciated!

    Have a good weekend!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Slimcompoop: Whoa, talk about irony! Or coincidence… I dunno but we are house hunting as well! Aha yes I remember that league 🙂

      Cool so looks like Dray, Kawhi, Favors, DeAndre, Drummond are locks. I wonder who your for sure 6/7 was… Wish DeRozan did something else besides Pts… Kinda feeling going guard with the last 3, Oladipo, Kemba and R Jax. Hope we agree on those!

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        @JB Gilpin: It pains me to drop DeRozan, but that’s what I was thinking as well. I should be able to get him back later. Happy Sunday JB! Big win for your Panthers over my Seahawks…sigh.

        Thanks for the feedback!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slimcompoop: Cool glad we agree! Oh man, I yelled sooooooo loud when Olsen got that TD, I didn’t think we were gonna get that one. It got a little chippy but nothing was nasty, which was good to see…

          Any time!

  19. Eazy E says:
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    Hey JB! It’s that time of the year again. Finished my draft in a 12 team, 9-cat H2H. Got the following:

    Butler
    Wall
    Draymond
    Bosh
    Gallo
    Tobias
    IT2
    Clarkson
    Kanter
    Kevin Martin
    Wilson Chandler
    Olynyk
    Paul Pierce

    What do you think I should work on? What stats? What I should target? Who is droppable? I can’t drop Pierce (for old time’s sake) hehe

    Thanks as always man!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Eazy E: Yessir! Hah well yeah unfortunately PIerce is my first drop 🙁 depends on for whom on the wire there…

      Love this team, I think PG depth might be a little light, mainly in AST even with Wall. Also BLK is very very light. I would almost punt blocks, since the bigs you do have are all good % guys. I’d look for a guy that won’t hurt %s and help in AST on the wire. Any time my man!

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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks, JB! I feel much better with my team now with your comment. Will look for a % and asts guy. Im punting blks anyway. Will probably trade/drop Chandler and/or kmart. Thanks again and all the best!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Eazy E: We’re here any time! Thanks so much, and hope you had a good weekend!

  20. DK says:
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    I was testing a few mocks for my 14-man draft, last pick. It seems that at round 3 and 4, the bigs are gone, the last good one being Favors. It is then a whole bunch of wings until where you ranked KAT. Then it is another big drop to Gortat, JV and Dieng in the 80s.

    Why Gortat so low? I mean he’s ranked 45 last year with decent blocks. I guess you’d be assuming that’s his ceiling. With that KAT is the earliest C available.

    My intention is to get PG/C early like Bledsoe/Gobert. Playing with the scendario Gobert is not available I’d prob go Bledsoe/Draymond. Assuming Favors is gone, my 3rd 4th picks would be KAT + another PG like Dragic/Rjax. I really don’t want to get a wing. I guess I could do double PG at 3-4 picks. But definitely I would lose my change to get a big. The only big left at picks 5-6 are probably the likes of Turner, Hibbert, RoLo, Kanter.

    So it would look something like this for the first 6 picks.
    Blesdoe, Draymond, Dragic, Kemba, Hibbert, Turner

    What do you think?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @DK: Well def would be happy with Favors towards 3/4 in a 14er. Well Gortat was awful the first half, then crazy the second half. Does look great in preseason, but he has an injury history as well. While I’m not too worried on the minutes, they keep saying they want a lot of small ball too.

      Yeah that would be a pretty solid start in a 14er, but not loving Hibbert that early, especially since with that build your FG% is a punt. Hibbert is awful for a guy his size. Would rather Rolo or like Valanciunas

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        @JB Gilpin: I guess overall while I agree with your rankings, it does make it hard to find a C in the 3rd or 4th rounds because you value them much lower than yahoo ranks. Which results in going for 3rd-tier C in 5-6 rounds. Don’t think JV will still be there. Only Rolo and Hibbert.

        I guess for purposes of needs, KAT, Gortat, JV and even Duncan becomes choices of 4th pick.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @DK: Yeah I do, bc I think they get more similar in the mid-rounds than the dropoff at PG. Wow JV not there at 5/6? Seems a little rich, he HAS to play 30 MPG to warrant that kind of selection. I could see reaching for KAT, I’m starting to go all in, that’s pretty close to where he is ranked for me now

  21. mr. claus says:
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    Hey JB!
    i feel like my draft went all over the place this time.. there were so many value picks that i didnt get to draft the way i wanted and ended up with this team..

    i figured FG PTS REB AST STL and BLKS should be good.. cheap 3s at the end.. avg TOs… and FT should be good enough to beat the team with DeAndre..

    what do you think?

    9cat h2h… 10th pick..

    1 John Wall
    2 Andre Drummond
    3 Eric Bledsoe
    4 Nerlens Noel
    5 Brook Lopez
    6 Monta Ellis
    7 Danny Green
    8 Kyrie Irving
    9 Terrence Jones
    10 Joakim Noah
    11 Myles Turner
    12 JJ Redick
    13 Mo Williams

    • JB Gilpin

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      @mr. claus: Hey man! Love your work on Christmas Eve!

      Haha yeah FT isn’t great, but is’t awful either. Nice last picks to help with 3s, but you can stream those. Love the PG depth, and yeah Kyrie in the 8th is unreal. If he’s healthy down the road, you’re really really dangerous.

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        @JB Gilpin:

        thanks JB… probably my league just forgot about kyrie… hopefully he plays around mid November..

        • JB Gilpin

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          @mr. claus: Yeah crazy how much people sometimes discount him, he dropped pretty far for me, but that’s too much avoiding haha

  22. Draco21 says:
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    16 teams, 9 cat H2H, Playoff – Week 21-23
    How does my team look?

    PG – CP3, Collison, Mills, Lin (SG)

    SG – Danny Green (SF), Covington (SF)

    SF – JR Smith (SG), Gerald Green (SG), Bennett (PF)

    PF – P.Gasol (C), Noel (C), Dieng (C)

    C – Towns

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Draco21: Even with Paul and that deep a league I think your AST is a little light. %s look really good though with great big men. Scoring is looking really really low too, I might look for a team needing blocks and shop Dieng for one more scoring PG type.

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        You think I should just forego blocks and trade Noel? Might get someone like Teague/Bledsoe/Conley for Noel and Pau for say someone like Vucevic?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @draco21: Interesting thought, but I kind think you need his steals and blocks, a big help in a deeper league. Losing Noel would hurt your boards a ton too, but if you could get Bledsoe straight up for him, I’d have to do it. Probably would just roll dice with Pau, especially for playoff sched, and hope he makes it healthy

  23. Tyler says:
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    Hey man. Deep league alert. How would you rank these guys for pure value?

    Iggy (3pt ast stl combo)
    H.Barnes (starting SF)
    Humphries (starting Pf)
    Cj Miles (startin SF)
    Harkless (potential 6th man)
    Frye (starting PF)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Tyler: Yo! Love the deep leagues. Right now I have Barnes the highest, and I think he’s the safest as well. Upside I might go Humphries and hope he sticks as a stretch 4, as we’ve seen stretches of good boards and decent blocks from him too

  24. Javale4MVP says:
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    Trade thoughts?

    A – Ibaka
    B- Wade and Gortat

    Who wins, why?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Javale4MVP: Well it’s tough to answer without knowing league size, standard 10 or 12 I will take Ibaka. You always want the better guy in a deal and you can pick up someone decent off the wire. In a super deep league I could see taking the Wade one, but usually not – a lot of injury risk from Wade and Gortat

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