The ThrAGNOF position!  Of all the 5 positions, SG and SF are always the least important to me.  Wings pop up all the time on the wire, they’re usually scorers and deep shooters and that’s it, and there’s enough depth with Yahoo’s position eligibility that there’s no need to reach.  SG is peppered all through the top 200 for 2014-15 Fantasy Basketball, especially when you consider a lot of the guys in the top 100 aren’t true SG (cough, Batum, cough, Kyrie).  Below are this year’s SG broken down into tiers (SG as determined by Yahoo position eligibility since 2014-15 RCL Basketball is on Yahoo), along with my mini-blurb and Slim’s projection:

The “I Really Hope I Have a Top 6 Pick To Get One of the Studs” Tier:

1 3 Stephen Curry, GSW PG, SG Steady as she blows, big threes and big dimes, with a vault in the latter in 13-14. Kerr as the new coach shouldn’t change anything and Curry still has ThrAGNOF king Klay Thompson to camp for treys.
Slim’s Proj: .465/.900/3.5/24.0/4.1/8.7/1.7/0.2/3.6 :38
2 6 James Harden, HOU SG, SF Started a little rough last year, but with an unbelievable post-ASB slash of 27.7/4.7/7.4/1.9/0.3 shooting 47% from the field with three treys a game, ended up duplicating his 12-13 breakout. Only 24, no Jeremy Lin, I see a new career-high in assists and another elite season.
Slim’s Proj: .450/.860/2.5/26.0/4.9/6.4/1.7/0.4/3.7 :38

The “Man Am I Glad Yahoo has These Guys Listed as SG!” Tier:

3 20 Goran Dragic, PHO PG, SG One of my big crushes this year, the FG% from a PG is elite. I see dimes going up and an even better follow-up after his 13-14 breakout.
Slim’s Proj: .480/.770/1.4/18.0/3.1/6.2/1.4/0.3/2.7 :34
4 21 Kyrie Irving, CLE PG, SG It’s all postulation, but I think Kyrie can surprise with ratios, get more assists than most (Slim!) expects, but at the expense of a few points.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.860/1.6/18.0/3.4/5.2/1.5/0.3/2.4 :34
5 22 Kawhi Leonard, SAS SG, SF I love Kawhi, so fun to watch, but with Pop and Duncan back, I think the rotations and usage will prove frustrating again. Grab him at the turn in 12ers if he’s there, but I’m not reaching earlier.
Slim’s Proj: .490/.810/1.4/15.0/6.8/2.2/1.9/0.8/1.5 :34
6 27 Nicolas Batum, POR SG, SF Safe, reliable, multi-cat goodness. Should replicate 13-14 with relative ease.
Slim’s Proj: .465/.820/2.0/13.5/7.2/5.0/1.0/0.8/2.4 :36

The “Herbal Blend of Upside and Grandpas With Injury-Issues” Tier:

7 35 Victor Oladipo, ORL PG, SG I’m hoping to get RainbOladipo on all of my teams – Orlando has cleared out the annoying G vets and given him the keys. Lost 20 pounds and is ready for a big breakout.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.790/1.2/17.5/4.7/4.8/1.8/0.6/3.2 :34
8 39 Monta Ellis, DAL PG, SG A rock-solid safety pick, and he should have no problem duplicating 13-14 with maybe even a tad more upside with Dallas’ downgrade at PG.
Slim’s Proj: .440/775/0.8/19.0/3.7/5.9/1.5/0.2/3.1 :36
9 44 Eric Bledsoe, PHX PG, SG I expect to be one of the lowest rankers on E Bled, finished only 52nd in per-game last year, contract dispute seems annoying, injury-risk still there, turned the ball over way too much in his first season as a full-time starter.
Slim’s Proj: .465/.780/1.2/17.5/4.8/5.6/1.6/0.4/3.4 :34
10 45 Kobe Bryant, LAL PG, SG Incredibly polarizing – upside is huge, downside is he gets hurt again early on. I feel good with the risk here.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.840/1.3/19.0/4.6/5.0/1.1/0.2/2.0 :34

The “Au Shizz, I Need Some Treys From My SG Spot!/I Hope Dwayne Wade Is Taken By Then” Tier:

11 48 Wesley Matthews, POR SG, SF Definition of a safe pick, has played in every game in 4 of his 5 seasons, microscopic TOs, a perfect compliment to a high volume TO PG who doesn’t make enough 3s.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.830/2.4/16.0/3.4/2.4/1.1/0.2/1.4 :34
12 50 Gordon Hayward, UTA SG, SF His shooting from the field has consistently gone down in more minutes, Exum/Burke are not going to help FG% and TOs. Some slumps are going to be tough to bear, but overall slash should be solid.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.820/1.4/18.0/5.2/5.3/1.4/0.5/2.6 :36
13 57 Trevor Ariza, HOU SG, SF Big breakout in 13-14 minimized with move to Houston, but 3s with low-TOs should yield another solid season.
Slim’s Proj: .450/.770/1.9/13.0/6.1/2.4/1.6/0.3/1.7 :34
14 58 DeMar DeRozan, TOR SG, SF For as high-volume a scorer he is, TOs very manageable. Improved his multi-catness (well, former lack thereof) by adding a trey and getting up to 4 dimes a game last year.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.820/0.5/23.0/4.1/3.9/0.9/0.3/2.1 :36
15 60 Klay Thompson, GSW SG, SF Poster boy of ThrAGNOF – don’t overpay for high-volume threes and low TOs while he does nothing else special.
Slim’s Proj: .445/.800/2.7/18.0/3.1/2.1/0.9/0.4/1.6 :36
16 66 Brandon Knight, MIL PG, SG Numbers were stellar once he was fully back from the early hammy issues, playmakers like Parker and Giannis along with Kidd at the helm give him further breakout upside.
Slim’s Proj: .425/.790/1.6/19.0/3.6/5.1/1.0/0.2/2.7 :34
17 67 Jimmy Butler, CHI SG, SF Shot under 40% last year and should see lower scoring with Rose back. Love his real-life game, 13-14 numbers slightly inflated by 38:39 MPG which is likely to go down a bit.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.770/1.3/14.0/5.2/2.7/2.0/0.6/1.5 :36
18 70 Dwyane Wade, MIA PG, SG DNPs, injuries, minutes restrictions, oh my! Wicked witch of having bad knees…
Slim’s Proj: .495/.740/0.3/20.0/4.5/4.8/1.4/0.5/2.9 :32
19 71 Bradley Beal, WAS SG Fairly empty stat line with a bad FG%, he’s a better real-life asset. Others will reach.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.800/1.9/18.0/3.8/3.5/1.0/0.2/1.8 :36
20 76 Kyle Korver, ATL SG, SF Not reaching for the ThrAGNOF, but another year of big minutes, big treys, and no TOs are in store. Plus he’s got sharp, oh so sharp talons.
Slim’s Proj: .470/.920/2.6/12.0/4.0/3.0/0.9/0.3/1.5 :34

The “I’m Getting Giannis Antetokounmpo On All Teams” Tier:

21 79 Tyreke Evans, NOP SG, SF While his post-ASB play was astounding, a lot had to do with Jrue Holiday being hurt. He still should be back into a big role as the starting 3.
Slim’s Proj: .450/.770/0.5/17.0/4.8/4.4/1.3/0.4/2.6 :30
22 80 Kevin Martin, MIN SG, SF No more Love makes K-Mart the main offensive threat and should hit a bajillion treys.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.890/1.7/19.0/3.0/1.8/1.0/0.1/1.7 :32
23 81 Giannis Antetokounmpo, MIL SG 1.7:1.7 AST:TO pre-ASB to 2.3:1.5 post showed huge improvement with the ball, going to get a huge starting role, offers upside in all 9 cats. A huge Razzball favorite.
Slim’s Proj: .460/.740/1.0/13.5/6.2/2.4/1.0/1.0/2.2 :32

The “I Guess I Need To Be Sure and Get One More SG Eligible Player Late” Tier:

24 87 Jeremy Lin, LAL PG, SG Low-upside, but Kobe to take the pressure off and a change of scenery could make him sneaky value. Don’t discount those steals!
Slim’s Proj: .440/.790/1.2/14.0/2.8/6.2/1.3/0.4/2.7 :30
25 88 George Hill, IND PG, SG Again low-upside, but could get back to 12-13 numbers with Paul George being out.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.800/1.3/12.0/3.7/4.4/1.0/0.3/1.5 :32
26 90 Arron Afflalo, DEN SG, SF Never been a fan, but the Nuggets needed a more consistent wing last year and he’ll be playing with the best PG he’s ever been paired with.
Slim’s Proj: .455/.820/1.7/16.5/3.4/3.3/0.6/0.2/1.9 :34
27 94 Patrick Beverley, HOU PG, SG More minutes with Lin gone, his metric-friendly 3s/low TOs should carry over with good steals. Nothing too exciting, but value will add up.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.810/1.8/12.5/3.8/3.1/1.5/0.5/1.4 :34
28 95 Lance Stephenson, CHA SG, SF TOs should go down, but so should the boards. Like PBev, nothing exciting but sheer volume should accrue value.
Slim’s Proj: .475/.710/1.2/14.5/7.2/4.2/0.8/0.1/2.6 :36
29 97 Reggie Jackson, OKC PG, SG Solid as a starter last year, and while most of those starts were without Westbrook, sheer volume of minutes as the probable starting 2 should add up nice numbers.
Slim’s Proj: .450/.880/1.2/14.5/4.4/4.6/1.2/0.2/2.0 :30
30 98 Jodie Meeks, DET SG Great %s from a high-volume 3-shooter, should rack up steals in Stan Van’s D, I think he’ll come somewhere close to what he did in 13-14 which was a top-50 overall. KCP looming for minutes does scare me though.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.870/2.1/12.5/2.0/1.6/1.1/0.1/1.3 :32
31 99 Corey Brewer, MIN SG, SF Elite steals guy, knows his game and should start again. I think he’s a great athlete and can surprise with nice boards as well with Love gone.
Slim’s Proj: .450/.710/0.6/11.5/2.6/1.6/1.7/0.4/1.3 :30
32 100 Alec Burks, UTA PG, SG Upside and opportunity, he could be a very sneaky late source of points.
Slim’s Proj: .460/.760/0.8/16.5/3.8/3.0/1.1/0.3/2.1 :32
33 103 J.J. Redick, LAC SG In an injury-riddled campaign, was actually 67th in per-game last year. A great fit in the Clips O for sneaky value. Plus, he’s on the positive end of ThrAGNOF!
Slim’s Proj: .440/.900/2.2/15.0/2.3/2.4/0.7/0.1/1.2 :30
34 105 Joe Johnson, BKN SG, SF Had some big spikes when D-Will got hurt, but D-Will will have some injury stretches again…
Slim’s Proj: .440/.820/1.8/14.5/3.3/2.9/0.6/0.1/1.6 :32
35 112 Rodney Stuckey, IND PG, SG George Hill isn’t a passer and Stuckey might be the main offensive catalyst. While on an offensively-challenged team, still think he can surprise.
Slim’s Proj: .425/.830/0.5/15.5/3.2/3.8/0.9/0.2/2.1 :32

The “I’m Desperate and Need to Pick One of the Last Available SG With My Last Pick” Tier:

36 119 Danny Green, SAS SG, SF Took off after the ASB, shooting 6% better and upping treys from 1.5 to 2.6. Pop will make him frustrating, but will end up a value.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.800/2.1/10.0/3.3/1.6/0.9/0.8/1.2 :26
37 120 Jamal Crawford, LAC PG, SG Spiked in dimes while CP3 was hurt, minutes and points to regress and late nagging injuries last year scare me.
Slim’s Proj: .410/.870/2.0/16.0/1.9/2.7/0.8/0.1/1.8 :28
38 121 Andre Iguodala, GSW SG, SF I think he’s going to lead the second unit, losing the starting job to Draymond, then still has to fend off Barnes for minutes.
Slim’s Proj: .460/.660/0.9/10.0/4.4/3.9/1.3/0.3/1.5 :30
39 124 Jeff Green, BOS SG, SF One of the “busts of the year” for 13-14, really nothing indicates he’ll be any better in 14-15.
Slim’s Proj: .425/.800/1.4/15.0/4.5/1.5/0.6/0.6/1.9 :32
40 127 Manu Ginobili, SAS SG, SF Finished 98th in under 23 minutes a game last year, should come close to repeat but game-to-game will be maddening to own.
Slim’s Proj: .450/.840/1.4/12.5/3.1/4.1/0.9/0.2/2.0 :24
41 128 P.J. Tucker, PHO SG, SF A little regression in value and minutes likely, already missing three games to suspension and isn’t exactly a special player.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.770/1.0/10.0/6.6/1.7/1.3/0.3/1.3 :30
42 130 J.R. Smith, NYK SG, SF Career-high assists last year with horrible Felton at PG, those will go down, treys to regress, never been a JR fan.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.720/2.5/15.5/3.8/2.6/1.0/0.2/1.5 :32
43 132 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET SG My boyfriend! StanVan loves his D from KCP with no TO. It’s like a Sesame Street episode! Needs to carry over season finale game/Summer League play into the season, but worth the upside.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.770/1.3/11.5/2.7/1.1/1.4/0.2/1.0 :26
44 133 Gerald Green, PHO SG, SF I just don’t see the minutes, and pre-ranks of him top 100 are outrageous. Should hit some treys for you, but not a guy you’ll have on your roster all year.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.830/1.8/12.0/2.4/0.8/0.6/0.2/1.4 :22
45 138 Nik Stauskas, SAC SG I see him taking McLemore’s job and being a surprise source of assists with low TOs, along with the given treys and good %s.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.830/1.6/11.0/2.2/2.3/0.4/0.1/1.0 :26
46 140 Terrence Ross, TOR SG, SF Young with upside like the ridiculous 51-pointer, but still raw and lacks in most cats right now. Worth the lottery pick at this point.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.810/2.3/13.0/3.4/1.2/1.0/0.4/1.4 :30
47 141 Eric Gordon, NOP SG Yet another offseason knee surgery, played in 115/246 games the past three years. Not touching him.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.800/1.4/15.0/2.2/3.1/1.0/0.2/1.9 :30
48 144 Avery Bradley, BOS PG, SG Brings you some scoring and out-of-position boards, but not too much upside.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.790/1.6/15.5/3.7/1.6/1.1/0.1/1.8 :32
49 145 Marco Belinelli, SAS SG, SF A roster filler with no upside, does offer low TOs with more than a trey to fill out your minutes.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.830/1.4/10.5/2.7/2.2/0.6/0.1/1.1 :24
50 147 C.J. Miles, IND SG, SF Deep source of treys and steals, especially if he wins the starting 3 role over Solomon Hill.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.810/1.5/12.5/2.7/1.9/1.0/0.3/1.2 :28
51 151 Wilson Chandler, DEN SG, SF Wasted a big opportunity last year, Gallinari to take a ton of minutes away.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.760/1.6/12.5/4.6/1.7/0.7/0.6/1.2 :28
52 152 Dion Waiters, CLE SG Super-duper ThrAGNOF with lower offensive volume with LeBron in town. Should find himself a lot of wide open treys though…
Slim’s Proj: .430/.720/1.5/13.5/2.6/2.8/0.9/0.2/1.9 :28
53 153 Jarrett Jack, BKN PG, SG Will fill in admirably in the Shaun Livingston role, doing nothing exceptional but being useful.
Slim’s Proj: .430/.840/0.9/11.5/3.1/4.3/0.7/0.2/1.8 :30
54 156 Vince Carter, MEM SG, SF Three year deal shows commitment, easily could start and play 30 minutes at the 3.
Slim’s Proj: .410/.820/1.7/11.0/3.3/2.4/0.7/0.4/1.3 :24
55 157 Tim Hardaway Jr., NYK SG One of the many reasons you ThrAGNOF!
Slim’s Proj: .420/.820/2.0/13.0/1.7/0.9/0.7/0.1/0.7 :28
56 161 Nick Young, LAL SG, SF Sure he was 93rd last year, but hits treys with not too bad TOs (=metrics-friendly) and will get a lot less shots with Kobe back.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.830/1.4/12.5/2.2/1.2/0.6/0.2/1.2 :24
57 163 C.J. McCollum, POR PG, SG Really if he was anywhere else he could be a major sleeper, still should see productive minutes as main backup G.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.810/1.6/13.5/3.6/2.7/1.2/0.2/1.9 :26
58 176 Tony Snell, CHI SG, SF Like Dieng, one of the select few that I’ll rank high without a decent minutes outlook. I like the talent too much.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.790/1.3/9.0/3.1/2.0/0.7/0.3/0.7 :22
59 177 Shaun Livingston, GSW PG, SG Toe surgery to keep him out right until opening tip, but big PG/SG backup minutes await with no one else there.
Slim’s Proj: .470/.820/0/7.5/2.6/3.1/0.8/0.3/1.2 :20
60 180 Randy Foye, DEN PG, SG Had a huge year last year, but a greatly reduced role behind Lawson and Afflalo in 14-15.
Slim’s Proj: .410/.850/1.3/10.0/2.1/2.5/0.6/0.2/1.2 :22
61 182 Evan Turner, BOS SG, SF In a minutes crunch on a crowded rotations-based team, but could do something useful.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.760/0.3/7.5/3.1/2.2/0.4/0.1/1.3 :20
62 186 Tony Allen, MEM SG, SF A late source of steals and that’s about it, a no-upside deep league play.
Slim’s Proj: .480/.720/0.2/9.5/3.9/1.6/1.4/0.4/1.3 :26
63 189 Iman Shumpert, NYK SG, SF Offers you a steal and a trey, and that’s about it. Tough compeition for minutes against emerging Timmay J.
Slim’s Proj: .400/.760/1.1/9.0/3.8/2.3/1.4/0.2/1.1 :28
64 190 Mike Dunleavy, CHI SG, SF McDermott (probably) stealing the starting role hurts, as does how good I think Snell is going to be. A role player with no upside.
Slim’s Proj: .440/.820/1.4/10.5/4.1/2.0/0.7/0.4/1.2 :28
65 195 O.J. Mayo, MIL PG, SG Not touching him in any leagues, going to really struggle for minutes.
Slim’s Proj: .410/.820/1.3/10.0/2.2/2.0/0.5/0.2/1.5 :20
66 198 Wes Johnson, LAL SG, SF Minutes crunch to take a major toll on his 13-14 breakout numbers.
Slim’s Proj: .420/.780/1.1/8.5/4.1/1.4/0.9/0.8/1.0 :26


So my immediate thoughts… As with almost any other season, I don’t focus on SG through the draft.  There’s so many guys with SG eligibility and wings pop up throughout the year for streaming more than any other position.  Plus it’s the best position to ThrAGNOF!  I hope you like how we did the position breakdown this year, as always shoot your thoughts below and happy SG hunting!

  1. Richo says:

    Great work again- wish these were out last week! Will Wiggins get SG eligibility? I thought the Cavs were planning to play him at SG pre-trade

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Richo: Thanks man! You drafted so early! Yeah I think he will, Yahoo lists rookies at only one position, so whenever he hits their metric which I’m sure he will at some point, he’ll be dual position.

  2. Boom Shakalaka says:

    If your picking Giannis at that rank how much of a leash will give him. Do you think his season will be consistant or so many ups and down that you might concider. Better question what do you think his floor is?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Boom Shakalaka: A pretty long leash and will probably be held all year. I think his peaks and valleys will be much more smoothed out than last year in a consistent role. Of course, Giannis went 73 in my RCL draft yesterday and I didn’t get him. SUCKS EVERYONE KNOWS WHO I WANT! haha. Floor… 25 minutes and like:

      43% FG 1 3PTM 10/5/2/0.8/0.7 Something like that. Won’t seem great, but the multi-cat will keep him must-own.

  3. Boom Shakalaka says:

    I’ve done a few mock drafts in a 10 team room and I’ve noticed that B.Knight is getting pick up in the 10-12th round… Why is everyone so low on him yet you have im at a ADP in the 60’s??? What is it that you are accounting for that everyone else is missing.

    Is he a must grad if left on the board in the 10th round?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Boom Shakalaka: Whoa, 10th to 12th?! I’ve only done a few drafts and never seen him last til the 80s… So a few things, a lot of his games/minutes were in games he either hurt the hammy or was working back from the hammy that hurt his numbers. Then the whole Larry Drew mess. I think Kidd helps with the %s and while he’s more a SG than PG, I think he still works in some assists and he’s a pretty good boarder, Definitely, definitely a grab in the 10th round if avail in the 90s.

  4. CTMN says:

    I like Hayward better than oladipo for this year, all oladipo really has on him is the steals and fg%. Ellis or Hayward is probably gonna end up my first SG since DeMar is gonna be overrated a bit because everyone in my draft is Canadian, but I’d love to get Curry or Harden and be set at the position. Love those PGs who qualify at SG

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @CTMN: Well I think Oladipo will be solid in assists too, even though Elfrid will be the main distributor. Slim has Hayward for more, but I think they’ll be about the same if not Oladipo marginally more. 15 spots apart isn’t that big a difference, feels like I should have Hayward closer too, but I’ll think about that one in first adjustment.

      • CTMN says:

        @JB Gilpin: Yeah it’s a close call, could probably go either way.

  5. Boom Shakalaka says:

    There’s talks about the Wolves shopping around K.Martin to the Bulls and it has me second guessing having him as a draft target. I’ve got him pegged in the 80’s and really liked him for PTS, 3’s and particuarly high volume FT% so late in the draft. Who else could you see fitting these needs around that spot?

    • Slim

      Slim says:

      @Boom Shakalaka: I think we can expect a ton of Kevin Martin rumors and non of them will be good for his fantasy value. Whether he goes or not is anyone’s guess but the uncertainty does effect my outlook. In the 80’s doesn’t feel that bad, but I see him more as a backup option than a target.

      Closest I can come up with would be Afflalo or maybe Jamal Crawford, neither do what you want as well but they are close… Stuckey later if 3s become less of a need.

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