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So we’re out of the top-50, it’s time to start playing it riskier!  Although, there’s still some pretty boring vets in this range, but it’s mainly because they have to go somewhere…  Kinda like those stupid sheep tiles in Catan.  Man, I hate that game…  It’s glorified dice without the money, and replace swagger with my nerd friend saying “mad sheep-game!” every time his hotel gets some sheep cards…  Worst game ever.

Anyway, it’s cliche to say “you can win your leagues with strong mid-round breakouts”, so I’ll just say “it certainly helps getting your mid-round picks right than getting busts!”  Oh man, if that’s not award winning analysis, I don’t know what is…  Here’s the Top 75 for the 2015-16 Fantasy Basketball Season:

51. Terrence Jones, Houston Rockets – Sleeper time!  Although unlike Gallo rounding out the top 50, I think TJones has a little wider-known buzz.  Very unfortunate he had the nerve issue last year derail his season, but even with starting 24 of 33 games, his per-game was 68th last year.  As a starter – 13.5/7.6/1.1/0.6/1.8 while shooting 55%, making 0.5 treys, and only 1.3 TO in 29 MPG.  Eesh, too late to get him top 50?!  Well there is some FT% issues (60% the past two years), but it is low volume.  There’s a little injury risk here as well, but depending on build, I could see even going a couple higher.

52. Trevor Ariza, Houston Rockets – Man, Ariza was almost cuttable at times last year!  But when it was all said and done, his metrics-friendly game put up a 36th per-game value and amazingly 22nd in total value playing all 82 games.  Through his first 47 games, Ariza was shooting an absolutely putrid 37% from the field, but the final 35 games improved to 44.7%.  The career-high treys from 13-14 maintained (actually set the career mark last year at 2.4!) and gives you steals from a wing.  Fairly boring, but very solid.

53. Mike Conley, Memphis Grizzlies – Yikes, I couldn’t believe the backlash I got for having Conley outside the top 50!  Since I’m lazy, I’m going to use my comment defense on the Top 50 post: “scoring down to 15.8 last year, dimes to 5.4 without cutting down on TO, 1.5 treys is fine, but those steals have dried up to 1.3 – dropped three straight years. And after being mad durable most of his career, missed 9 in 13-14 and 12 last year, with a list of injuries like this at one point.  I don’t see any upside, he’s starting to look a little fragile especially with the kankles, and on BB Monster which I’ve been using for per-game/total value metrics, 52nd last year in per-game.”  Which is not why I have him 53rd!  Coincidence they’re this close…  I don’t buy him playing for a monster contract either – I don’t see the Grizzlies as a team to suddenly unleash him with either more shots or more minutes.  Just not the right team to give him the keys to play for more $$.

54. Tobias Harris, Orlando Magic – Well, after some strife and some benchings, Mrs. Featherbottom is back with the Magic with a pretty exciting swing game ahead of him.  Vuc can score low, Dipo can slash, then Harris can play some extra transition and everything in between.  He’s the meat in the sandwich!  Ummm, that sounds wrong…  The metrics love him, as he was 51st in per-game value in 14-15.  Per-36s might not be as favorable (he played 35:37 a game as a starter), but 17.6/6.5/1.9/1.1/0.6 with only 1.7 and 1.3 treys is a mad multi-cat output.  Great with the %s as well.

55. Chandler Parsons, Dallas Mavericks – The good: 58th in per-game last year, a massive upgrade at PG, Wesley Matthews getting eased in, and Dirk is getting older.  The bad: OUCH MY BACK!  OUCH ARTHROPOD KNEE SURGERY!  I might’ve gotten what kind of knee surgery he had wrong… Anywho, everyone’s favorite DeAndre Jordan slammer is primed for a bigger role in the O, although I don’t see him getting back to the 4 dimes a game we saw in his final Houston year.

56. Kenneth Faried, Denver Nuggets – Oh man, is THIS finally the year?!?!?  Eesh, I guess with this rank, I’m thinking so!  Despite only playing an extra minute a game, Faried improved vastly in steals and blocks in the second half with a 14.3/9.2/1.1/1.1/1.0 slash post-ASB.  70% FT was acceptable, and 1.7 TO from a big is fine as well.  There’s some upside here as you also have to expect more than 30 minutes a game under the new Mike Malone regime.  Malone seems to like Faried, and with the money the Manimal makes, now is the time to unleash him and put the money to use.

57. Jordan Clarkson, Los Angeles Lakers – I was all set to just sink Clarkson like every other NBA franchise did (except the Lakers – they’ve done ONE thing right!), but re-looking at his numbers – and my apprehension D’Angelo Russell is going to have a huge impact this year – I think Clarkson is going to be a solid value in the 50s.  The Lakers have said they want to run Clarkson and Russell as combo guards with that fossil playing SF, and as a starter in 14-15 – Clarkson was 15.8/4.2/5.0/1.1/0.2 with 0.9 treys and 84% from the stripe.  I don’t see Russell becoming the main facilitator, so I see those numbers repeatable.  Maybe my favorite thing for Clarkson is he only averaged 2.2 TO on that atrocious Lakers team, as an [at first] unheralded rookie running an abhorrent line-up.

58. Danny Green, San Antonio Spurs – Everyone’s favorite unsung hero (wait, is that an oxymoron?), Green is an absolute metrics dream even though he plays low minutes and can be downright invisible at times.  Eventually the stats accrue!  23rd in per-game value last year, but there’s a giant elephant in the room.  LaMarcus the Elephant!  Dude – I should totally write kids’ books based on fantasy metaphors…  Career-high 9.1 shots a game last year I see going down, career-best 2.4 treys will shrink, the minutes at 28-and-a-half seem about right, and I guess everything else seems fairly repeatable.  Great glue guy, but not someone I’ll reach for.  Although I could see this rank well above ADP, as he’s always unappreciated by those who appreciate him (definitely an oxymoron that makes no sense!).

59. Brook Lopez, Brooklyn Nets – Ugh, finally here at Brolo.  When healthy, he’s a great fantasy player…  24th last year was mad solid, including a huge 2nd half run.  But there’s a giant elephant in the room…  Clownfoot the Elephant!  Well, just injuries in general make Lopez not worth the risk any higher.  Not elite in blocks but usable, AST and STL are non-existent, but low TO and great %s.  Enjoy if you feel lucky!

60. Brandon Knight, Phoenix Suns – Wooo, my boyfriend is back!  14-15 started with an unbelievable run, but he tailed off a tad, got traded, then blew out his ankle.  Time to turn over a new leaf!  Just don’t turn over a new ankle!  I really like that Knight became the backup PG when Eric Bledsoe got subbed out in his brief run with the new team, and Phoenix has paid him.  My boy got paid!  Knight shot pretty bad in his 11 Suns games, but took a ton of 3s, still got 4 dimes a game, and really cut down on the TO.  I don’t think we see anything too special in any specific area, but should have a solid line across the board.  Plus a smidge of added upside with Kieff having Phoenix beef.  Not to be confused with Mongolian beef.

61. Nicolas Batum, Charlotte Hornets – Frenchy was stenchy!  His multi-cat, metrics friendly game had a sharp turn for the worse dropping to 69th in per-game last year, as the Pts dropped to 9.4, FG% to 40%, and he lost nearly two boards per.  Never left the perimeter!  The Hornets aren’t going to ask him to change much of that, but like Ariza – 37% from the field pre-ASB to 45% post.  Fought through a few injuries, should see the scoring bounce back a tad, another solid glue guy.  But not the Batum of old.

62. Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns? – Drama in Zona!  After some strife with Hornacek, they traded his brother to DET without consulting him, and now he’s reportedly not talking with the team or management.  Maybe some flowers and an apology piece of jewelry will fix everything!  The Suns better act fast too, or else a GM might get a Morris’ bros. beating…  I only docked Kieff a few spots for the uncertainty, as you never know where he could move to if he indeed forces a trade.  Then you never know what this drama could cost him in minutes and with Hornacek’s leash if he stays…  Let’s just say I bet Kieff has a bigger womping stick, because Hornacek can’t hide much in those shorts!

63. Myles Turner, Indiana Pacers – Let’s get the rookie nookie cookin’!  Does “rookie nookie cookies” sound better?  Because that just sounds nasty…  Anyway, Turner was easily the buzziest rookie in Summer League looking like a men amongst boys (cliche alert!), putting up 18.7/8.3/0/0.7/4.3 in 3 games, hitting 2-3 from downtown and 8-10 FT.  Plus only 3 total TO in 87 minutes!  Three games, it’s Summer League, it’s small sample, “why are we all really here?” qualms aside, Bird said Turner is going to play a ton of minutes, and really the only other power forward OR center that can do anything on the Pacers is Jordan Hill.  Hill can’t play big minutes, and while Paul George will get some run at the swing 4, Turner is set to play a tonnnnnn.  Hits some treys for a big, the swats are legit right away, no TO, hits his FT…  Upside for a monster here.

64. Khris Middleton, Milwaukee Bucks – I got so floundered in my phrase “ARE YOU KIDD-ING ME!” that it’s shocking to see The Duchess with a 50th per-game finish, and all the way to 34th in total value.  He had a few DNP-CD early on!  And EVEN MORE floundering: after the opener, K-Middleton had only two – TWO! – games of over 30 minutes until December 26th!  He averaged a mere 23 MPG through the first 27, starting only 7 of those.  But when Jabari Parker went down, Jason Kidd had no choice but to make a smart decision.  The Duchess was so good from there on out he exploded his value and GOT PAID!  Great multi-cat contributor, does everything except block shots, and should have another solid run as the for-sure starter.  Although as Parker gets eased in, if Middleton is mad hot through the first few months, I might look to sell-high.

65. DeMarre Carroll, Toronto Raptors – I’m all about that space, bout that space, WITHOUT CARROLL THERE’D BE TROUBLE!  Hah, just stemming that from Slim’s comment that without Lowry, the Raps spacing would downgrade from the Raptor scene in Jurassic Park to the one in The Lost World.  One of my favorite moments in any of the Honest Trailers…  Anyway, Carroll put up a 54th per-game finish last year, AND GOT PAID!  AND IT WAS MORE THAN MONTA ELLIS!  Hah, just having fun with that one again…  Moving north of the border, Carroll should see a few more shots, he’ll be more relied upon for treys since they don’t have a Korver, and obviously replicate the steals with low-TO.

66. Dwyane Wade, Miami Heat – Aight, aight, aight – in a pseudo McConaughey voice – it’s time to start filtering in the injury prone vets that I guess I’d have to take at this point.  Even in per-game stats, Wade fell to 95th with the TO rate horrific, his FG% dropped over 7% from last year (!!!) and the steals fell to 1.2.  But if you are either punting TO or are in need of a scorer late, I could see rolling with Wade at this point.  Luckily with how most fantasy league sites can’t let go of the past, I have a feeling he’ll be taken a good bit earlier.  You enjoy those 30 missed games, top-50 Wade drafter!

67. George Hill, Indiana Pacers – First team all-post-ASB all-star!  Maybe the worst superlative sentence ever written…  Went bananas after the break for 17.2/4.6/5.8/1.2/0.3 with a paltry 1.8 TO and 1.6 3PTM.  Dem fighting numbers!  But with PG13 and Monta now in the fold, I don’t see the points or dimes repeatable.  His previous highs in Pts & Ast was 14.2 and 4.7 back in 12-13, which seem closer to his 15-16 outlook.  Gotta love the low TO though, but upside is a bit capped.

68. Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs – It feels like a catastrophic falloff has been expected for the past 5 years, and it just hasn’t happened.  Per-game he was a monster 21st overall, and even with Aldridge siphoning off a lot of touches, I think this rank builds in the regression/line-up change.  He’s been in the 28-30 minutes range five straight seasons, and even with all the benchings, has only been under 69 games once in that span.  It’s not like 69 games is awesome or anything, but I think you get enough value from TIMMAY at this point.

69. Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks – Unlike Timmy who has been relatively consistent, Dirk had a massive dropoff last year.  44th in per-game was fine, but he was 9th in 13-14!  Last year was the first time since his rookie campaign playing under 30 minutes, and also had lows in FTM and boards since then with a career-low in blocks.  But he’ll still bring the treys, nice %s, and virtually no TO.  This rank will hopefully price me out, but if he fell this far I guess it’s fine.

70. Kyle Korver, Atlanta Hawks – If everyone’s favorite frat boy was coming into the year healthy, I’d have him a good 10 spots higher.  But off-season elbow and ankle surgeries have made him “more machine now, than man”…  2.9 treys a game making nearly 50% of them is absurd, plus he got a career-best 0.6 blocks.  On a Hawks team – a team that should win and be right with the Cavs in dominating the East – I don’t think they push his minutes, especially early on.  I might be priced out at 70, but I think there will be a great buy low opportunity a month or two in.

71. Robert Covington, Philadelphia 76ers – Lord Covington!  Or maybe Duke Covington?  Earl?  Just can’t be Duchess!  One of the most successful D-League promotees, Covington was a monster in 49 games as a starter for 15.2/5.0/1.7/1.6/0.6 with a nuts 2.7 treys.  Dem not only fighting numbers, dem murderin’ numbers!  The 2.3 TO in that line was a smidge high, but the real value on draft day is when drafters look at his overall 70-game output instead of the starting numbers.  As Slim put it, the Sixers benched Covington at the end of the year because “you’re helping us win, stop doing that!”  Philly should stick him in as the starter all year, and if he’s close to those starting numbers from last year, you’re going to get great value.

72. Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls – This will definitely price me out.  Even in his healthy prime, D-Rose has never been a fantasy elite with a low FG% with not enough treys to support it, low dimes with too many TO to support it, and terribly low STL.  Then all of those knocks obviously compound with the injury risk.  I really hope he’s not on any of my boards at this point, but I guess the scoring and handful of dimes is worth the pick this late.

73. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks – I’ve gathered through the comments that Giannis is going to be a very buzzy 15-16 selection, but I don’t think his physical upside and young age translate into a sleeper pick any higher.  It was very disappointing to see his rookie 0.5 treys drop to 0.1 (only 7 on the season last year), plus no improvement to AST:TO and very marginal upping of the STL + BLK (even with roughly 7 more minutes per).  At least with the treys way down it helped his FG% almost get to 50% and he vastly improved at the stripe – both in % and attempts.  We tend to think of Giannis as a multi-cat monster, but with no treys and sub 2 STL+BLK last year, he was pretty boring and 93rd in per-game.  And the big kicker for me is that boring wing line with 2.1 TO.  All that said, I think this rank will be above his ADP for the obvious raw upside.  Hopefully the 3s and D-stats develop, or else trendy drafters will be left disappointed.  You trendy hipsters, you!

74. Tyson Chandler, Phoenix Suns – I’ve got a few players I’ve never owned shares of through their careers (Gallo being a big one!), but I am all about Tyson to be a holy field of stats.  37th in per-game last year, but he’s a metrics whore (low TO, good %s) and I doubt many rankers have him top-75 at all.  The durability scares me a tad, but he gives you some out-of-position steals and I could see him scoring in the 13-14 PPG range aided by Phoenix’s transition game.  He’s a perfect fit with the high-flyin’ Suns for some transition alleys.  Phoenix was 4th in possessions per-game – Dallas wasn’t far off at 9th – but it helps a smidge with points and boards upside.

75. Tyreke Evans, New Orleans Pelicans – Well, there’s a big name outside of the top 75 that plays PG for Reke’s team, and if Jrue’s legs can’t hold up yet again, Reke should get out of that Bolton kid’s dungeon and help restore the Greyjoy name!  16.6/5.3/6.6 last year, but while the trip-dub stats get the ESPN bottom line excited, horrible 3.1 TO, 0.9 treys at only 30% 3PT% (drive a little more!), and his FT% oddly dropped under 70%.  But if I’m going to be too scared of Jrue to keep him out, I have to expect some nice stretches from Evans, assuming he once again fills in at some PG.  Evans has injury risk as well, but he’s chameleonic enough to feel pretty good playing him with whomever is healthy around him.

 

There’s your top 75!  May your mid-rounds hit on all the sleepers, and we’ll round out the top 100 on Wednesday!

  1. Slim

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    We’ll talk tomorrow but I figured I’d list a few bigs I would take ahead of Tyson Chandler and his 10/10/1/0.5/1 line.

    1.Robin Lopez. Better FT%, more Pts, Blocks. Less FG% but there’s virtually no volume for Tyson so it barely registers. Maybe lose 1.5-2.0 boards. Doesn’t equal the other 3 cats he loses. And he’s 5 years younger.
    2.Valanciunas. Same as RoLo. Actually they are virtually the same player stats wise and both have more upside than Tyson.
    3.Gorgui Deing. I’m not worried about Garnett. Gorgui still gets 30 min until Garnett gets hurt then the skies the limit. He’ll get better FT%, stls, blks, assists. Once again you lose 1.5-2.0 boards but that doesn’t come close to equaling those other 4 stats. And he’s 7 years younger without the injury history. Seems fairly obvious to me.
    4.Towns. Upside! Like actual upside. More blocks, FT%, points, and probably stls, assists too. Pek is never healthy and even if he plays his minutes will be held in check. There’s that 1.5-2.0 boards again but that isn’t a guarantee. Towns should be top 75.
    5.Duncan. I kid. Duncan has zero chance of being on any of my teams. I’d take Tyson or even Gortat god forbid… Actually Gortat and Tyson are pretty similar. A few more pts for Gortat, boards for Tyson.

    OK… Myles Turner is really risky that high. Mahinmi is a capable big and LaVoy Allen was pretty solid early last year when he got minutes. Both could easily cut into Turner if he struggles which is nearly guaranteed to happen like nearly all young big men do. I’m putting Turner at 26 min but my guess is that it’s closer to 24 early and 28 late… probably… The risk here is so effin high! I actually think Towns minutes are more reliable and he’s a vastly superior talent. I bet his ADP will be significantly higher though.

    That about covers the bigs… Clarkson over Knight is interesting. I bet no one could have predicted that at the beginning of last year.

    Then there’s KMidd. It’s going to be a long podcast tomorrow.

    • Jensen says:
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      @Slim: The Myles Turner train has left the buildng. No amount of rankings bullying will slow it now!

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Slim: Hah well I will save my responses until then. Don’t trust MIN big man minutes at all, Towns is closest though.

        I think Turner’s upside is worth it. Blocks will translate right away either way. hah, dunno if those scubs do much, Mahinmi is a Biedrins at the FT line. No argument Towns is a superior talent, but I do thinK Turner plays more minutes.

        @Jensen: Woooot wooot, hop on the Myles train!

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: I think Turner is a nice talent and all but he’s going to get pushed around like crazy. Mihinmi can at least hold his own. Turner will have next to no USG in that offense, esp if he sits behind the 3pt line. I’m not sure he’s a PnR guy at all yet. Late 5th/early 6th feels so risky compared to the others available at that spot.

          I’ll make a prediction for you. In the 1st month of the year we’ll get more questions about dropping Turner than anyone else in the top 100. Meanwhile Pek will be sitting on the bench bleeding out of his eyes, bleeding out of his … wherever and Towns will be getting 30 minutes right out of the gate.

          But… that isn’t as bad as Whiteside over Favors. Sheesh… people are losing their mind with Whiteside and his 2 categories plus a little bit of FG%.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Slim: Hahaha, yeah Pek is always bleeding somewhere… I think Turner’s blocks translate and keep him from being a big drop candidate. Really excited to see him in preseason and see how he looks.

            Yeah you have bitter Whiteside trade remorse, we can all agree on that!

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            @Slim: I know Slim is the expert and all but I’m very doubtful that Towns gets more minutes than Turner. the Twolves have KG, Pek, and Dieng. There just aren’t enough minutes to go around. Even when Pek gets hurt. I think Flip has shown he is building for the long term and I don’t see him throwing Towns out there for 30min a night. And that isn’t even including Bennett and Payne who will probably both get benched but could still snipe 6ish min a game.

            On the other hand, Turner is competing with Lavoy and Mahinmi. Upside no doubt goes to Towns, but I think he will contribute very little this year.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Jensen: Oh man, we have a crazy debate on today’s Pod between the two! I am obviously on your side – no interesting depth at IND. MIN has a lot of guys to rotate. I think I started selling Slim too, especially with Towns’ MPG in one year of college – gonna wear down

  2. Shawn says:
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    Hey guys
    I got got offered
    Tyson Chandler for draymond green.
    The league is rebouding heavy h2h dynasty
    Should I go for it?
    Thanks a lot

    • Slim

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      @Shawn: That’s a big negatory! If the offer was for Chandler at age 24 then I might consider a counter but even then I’d say no way. In my opinion that offer is downright rude. I could ask for what you’re league settings are but it doesn’t matter. No way!

      • Shawn says:
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        @Slim:
        Thanks bro
        Good call

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Shawn: Nope, agree with Slim, definitely a no and offerer owes an apology haha

  3. Shawn says:
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    Hey another question if you don’t mind

    What are your thoughts on Brandon Jennings?
    Still worth while? I heard he might be traded, Van g was on a podcast and hinted it last week I just read.
    I have him, might try and move him.
    He was a beast right before going down
    Thanks and love the site

    • Adam

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      @Shawn: Oops, meant to hit reply with the post below

    • Shawn says:
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      @Shawn:

      good call guys
      Im really getting in to fantasy basketball and I just found a gem, this site! spent the morning reading, great stuff love the info you guys are dishing out and the forum/board action is just icing on the cake! so i was thinking.. Im going to be asking what you guys think a lot I imagine so Im just going to share with you my team so in the future you have a better idea of what im dealing with.. my league is really competitive w/ guys trading /wheeling and dealing all the time*all summer trades have been going on*

      so here are the league stats – Head to Head – Dynasty – 12 teams – Keep all players –

      Stats
      Points (PTS) Blocks (BLK)
      Steals (STL) Assists (AST)
      Offensive Rebounds (OREB) Defensive Rebounds (DREB)
      Rebounds (REB) Three Pointers Made (3PM)
      Field Goal Percentage (FG%) Free Throw Percentage (FT%)
      Three Point Percentage (TP%) Double Doubles (DD)
      Triple Doubles (TD)

      my players –
      Jordan Clarkson
      Dwyane Wade
      Draymond Green
      Tristan Thompson
      Meyers Leonard
      Alex Len
      Dwight Howard
      Nerlens Noel
      Patrick Beverley
      Blake Griffin
      Nicolas Batum,
      Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
      Brandon Jennings
      Kobe Bryant

      hope thats not weird i just thought why not, I plan on sticking around!
      thanks guys 😮 have a good one!!!

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Shawn: Glad you found us man! Oh awesome, love leagues that stay active 365 days a year.

        Def see how the rebounding stats lean now! And why you own some otherwise scrubby bigs, they’re much better than fringey 9-cat guards.

        Looks like a good core so far! How do you draft rookies with keeping everyone? Rookie draft every year?

  4. Adam

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    Jennings has very little value in Detroit with Reggie there, so I’d try to sell now for basically anyone in the top 100. I’d use the trade rumors as a sales pitch. If you don’t get a good offer, just wait til he goes on one of his hot streaks and then sell. Just have to hope he has one early then. I love Jennings, but his FG% is terrible and isn’t likely to improve with his decision making ability being what it is.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Shawn: Any time! Yeah I would try to hold, selling now would probably be at a discount since he doesn’t look to have much upside right now. Thanks for reading man, drop by any time!

      @Adam: If he sticks in DET through camp and early preseason, then yeah you might need to sell as quick as you can, but I’d still hope for a trade tp try and boost some value

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    The single most frustrating thing for me this offseason has been the Lakers’ moves and how they affect Jordan Clarkson. The drafting of DeAngelo Russell was likely the most impactful, but signing Lou Williams and retaining Nick Young didn’t do JC any favors either. Those two guys take a LOT of shots, as does Kobe (obviously), so trying to figure out usage rates in the backcourt and swing positions is going to be an exercise in futility. Whether Clarkson is getting his minutes with the starters, the second unit, or a combo of both is somewhat moot; he’s going to be fighting with me-first players the entire time he’s on the court.

    All that being said, I think he’s a fantastic second half buy-low candidate. If the last three years are any indication, Kobe will be in street clothes more ofthen than not post-ASB, and I can’t imagine Swaggy P is going to do an about face and suddenly endear himself to the coaching staff and management. He’s a prime trade deadline dump for the Lakers. Once the team falls 10 or so games below .500 they should look to building for the future and that means all the Russell & Clarkson.

    So if someone reaches for Clarkson on draft day in the top 50 or so picks, it’s not time to panic. I’d wait until the New Year and toss out a lowball offer to an owner who is frustrated with his 28 MPG and reduced usage with a fully healthy Lakers roster. He could have a Rudy-Gobert-AK(After Kanter)-like impact for your squad for the last 30-40 games of the season.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Matty: Hah can’t disagree there! Why I gave Russell such a bad draft grade… While true that’s a lot of shooters around him, it’s also a lot of older vets with injury issues – which you mention. But good point on a buy low projection!

      Haha glad “AK” is a term for the Jazz lol.

    • Slim

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      @Matty: I agree there may be a USG issue early with Clarkson but of all those guys named I don’t think any are adaquate PGs. I feel like it’s Clarksons team to run. I think the buy low window will be closed shut real early. I also think this rank is going to be way above ADP.

  6. Matty says:
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    I would exercise caution about taking Tobias Harris in the top five rounds. His talent and fantasy-friendly game can’t be argued and he’s entering the prime years of his career on a talented, young team which plays nicely to his skillset.

    HOWEVER, he is soft. Charmin soft. He will milk minor injuries (mostly to his ankles) like few others I’ve ever seen. Take it from a scorned ex-owner each of the last couple years – this guy will have the official team account say on a Monday morning that he’s “probable” for that night’s game, so you’ll lock him into your weekly lineup and he will sit another 10 days and you’ll take a goose egg for the week.

    His games played are trending in the right direction since his rookie season four years ago: 42, 55, 61, 68. I don’t believe in being able to “predict” injuries with any sort of certainty, but I do believe you can identify soft players or overly cautious teams. In a league where no player is at 100% health given the grind of an 82-game season, I feel that the softies are the ones where you can feel pretty confident in saying “he’s going to miss games.”

    Tobias Harris is going to miss games.

    (Full disclosure: I may also harbor ill will towards anyone named Tobias as that is the name of the male lead in the “Divergent” series which my lovely wife has forced me to watch more often than I care to admit.)

    • Matty says:
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      @Matty: Addendum to the above: Guys who quite obviously suffer major trauma (bad sprains, broken fingers, etc.) and play through it are guys that I like to target as you can feel confident that they’ll attempt to gut out extra games at far less than 100%. Just from last year, a couple players that come to mind are:

      Jimmy Butler (had his hand wrapped for half the year it seemed)
      Monta Ellis (looked like a BAD ankle injury and barely missed a beat)
      Russell Westbrook (broken face, missed only a game or two if memory serves)

      Sure, their effectiveness at less than 100% can be argued, but I’d rather get 80% of a guy’s potential than a big ol’ goose egg for a longer-than-necessary period of time.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Matty: Whoa, don’t be surprised to not get invited to the Harris’ family dinner any more! The missed games are a slight concern, but he’s still getting used to the grind. I don’t think he’s too injury prone.

        Well wipe that “Tobias” ref from your mind and watch Arrestec Development!

        Butler is a good one to be a little fearful of, but his upside is still too good to me. Monta has been durable for so long, I’m not worried there. Westbrook too, it’s not like his face took constant beating like a foot or ankle that you impact every step.

        • Matty says:
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          @JB Gilpin: I think you might’ve misinterpreted what I was saying at the end there…I am TARGETING the guys who play through injuries like the Butlers, Montas, and Westys of the NBA. They will inevitably get dinged up, but have proven to play through it. It’s a stark contrast to guys like Tobias and it’s something I take into consideration when doing my own rankings.

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Matty: Ahhhhhhhh yup my bad, busy day and reading too fast! Yes totally agree, Butler does give me a smidge of apprehension, but I’m looking past it. Ellis is going to be a big yawn for some, but his consistency/Pts/Stl I think is well worth it. And why Tobias is not top 50 🙂

            • ByeFelica says:
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              @JB Gilpin: he has top 20-30 upside tho! If he can produce an entire year. Those out of position 3’s are sweet icing and his FT% is good too. I’m not reaching for him tho. I think you can grab him in the 8th or 10th (even later) in some leagues. Shoot, i got him really late in the draft last year in a few leagues. Like last 2-3 rounds late LOL

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:
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                @ByeFelica: Yeah exactly, I feel like my rank build in that kind of upside with a little injury downside. Let’s do this again Tobias!

        • Marl says:
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          Slim/JB,

          Great analysis!

          Im one of your fan and believe on your rankings/analysis than any ranking.
          Can I join any of your league? How can I?

          More Power!
          Marl

          • Slim

            Slim says:
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            @Marl: Oh yeah, We’ll be doing RCLs again. Last year I was in one with JB and one by myself. I might do a few more this year. These razzball drafters know what their doing. The RCLs are some of the most competitive free leagues I’ve ever been a part of.

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Slim: @Marl: Yup – Razzball Commenter Leagues – aka RCL leagues are how all of us commenters play together, with a few prizes for the top winners, including a video I make of me shaming myself in the winner’s honor. Shaved a team name in my head and did a hot wings challenge so far! Leagues should be opening up by early September.

            • Wen says:
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              @JB Gilpin: How can I join a RCL league? I would be interested if there is a spare spot. 🙂

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:
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                @Wen: We’ll be launching them when yahoo basketball opens up, so in a few weeks. There will be a big post on it, with just a simple link to push for what league you want. Stay tuned to Razzball and you’ll see them start up!

      • ByeFelica says:
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        @Matty: you left Wall off this list. He’s a beast and hates to sit out games. This year will be different due to the playoffs last year. I can see mgmt shutting him down if they lock up the division. He won’t be the iron man he’s been in the past.

        • Matty says:
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          @ByeFelica: Oh, I left a LOT of guys off the list, I’m sure. Wall is a great example though and definitely one of the players who grinds out games at less than 100% health.

          (Aside – I think you might’ve forgotten the second “i” in Felicia…woops. Great handle though.)

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @ByeFelica: Yeah he’s a good one, playing through all those wrist issues last year if memory [email protected]Matty: There’s no i in Felca!

        • Slim

          Slim says:
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          @ByeFelica: I’ll add Conley to the list just to piss off JB.

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Slim: Pssshhhh dude brittle now

  7. UltraKzilla says:
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    JJ Redick killed it for me down the stretch last year, im surprised he’s not top 75 material.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @UltraKzilla: He’s certainly top 100, but his high 3s/low TO I think have the metrics like him more than his real fantasy value. Dimes down 4 straight years, a 0 in boards, virtually no steals or blocks – pretty ThrAGNOF for me

    • Slim

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      @UltraKzilla: Yeah he had a Korver-esque 2nd half. Not enough counting stats though even in a career year for top 75 though. I’m not sure how much Paul Pierce will eat into his shots. Plus Crawford is still around. Hmm… I’d have to project him for less than his 2nd half.

  8. Shawn says:
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    Hey
    Annother question if you don’t mind!
    Just got a offer
    Lbj and faried for Blake G and draymond green
    It’s a 12 team rebounds heavy league with dd’s
    Not sure :/

    • John says:
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      @Shawn: blake and dray 100%

    • Shawn says:
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      @Shawn:
      Thanks guys!

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Shawn: As always any time! Sorry I work the night sched and don’t get to comments earlier 🙂

        Yup I’ll stick with Blake/Dray too. Dynasty right? LBJ winding down, still a ton of youth on your side.

  9. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    Very surprised at Clarkson over Knight. Also didn’t think I’d see Tyson Chandler in this list yet. Oh, and WOW, the Turner love is strong eh?

    Is it REL draft time yet?

    Looks like I’ve got 20, 40, 45, 64, and 65 so far and it’ll cost me under $75! This should be a much better year, I mean, I think that total is about what I spent on Harden alone in year one.

    I’m assuming Jonas is somewhere 75-100, I mean I don’t see how he can be too far from Chandler. He was 61st in value last year and they exchanged high usage Lou and Vasquez for low usage CoJo and Carroll. Granted the biggest influence would be Casey stayed unfortunately. Let me posit something for you. Jonas is going to be a restricted free agent next year, and think of him what you will, but he’s going to get paid. With the cap going up he’s looking at around $20 million per (which is crazy, but, its the reality we live in). As such there’s really three options here.

    1) Some team that really wants him offers him big money and the Raptors don’t match. The result is a) he gets away from Casey’s ridiculous defensive scheme, which is about as far from a match for Jonas as you’ll find and b) he goes to a team that doesn’t run all of their offence through nothing but high usage guards (4 with a usage rate of 20%+ last year).

    2) The Raptors do match, meaning they are paying him around $20 million per year. Casey and Masai realize that even with the cap going up you can’t pay someone who isn’t a defensive stud that much money if you’re gonna ignore them on offense. Which means they use him at least decent chunk more on that side of the ball, maybe getting his usage over 19% for once?

    3) The Raptors do match, meaning they are paying him around $20 million per year. They continue to ignore him on offense and run a defensive scheme that exposes him.

    One of these sounds like a really stupid idea, and I’d like to think the people running the Raptors (now) aren’t quite that stupid. Unfortunately, none of this changes much this season for him, but long term he should be looking up a bit, don’t you think?

    [That’s the end of me making excuses for Jonas….today]

    • Matty says:
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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Well, as someone who watches all 82 Raps games each year (many in person at the ACC), I can confidently say that the development – or lack thereof – of Valanciunas is one of the worst parts of Dwayne Casey’s tenure as coach. JV is either your franchise centre (alert: Canadian spelling, not a typo!) or he’s not. Give him 30+ minutes or send him packing. The frustration amongst fans, myself included, that stems from JV posting a 12 point, 5 rebound first quarter and then barely seeing any second half run is growing with each passing instance (of which there have been many). JV can ball and can be a force offensively if allowed to get into the flow of the game. Yes, he’s a defensive liability, but at this point in his career you’ve got a large enough sample size to know that’s not likely to change. Aim for marginal improvement, but be content with what he is and that’s an efficient offensive weapon in the low post. Those types of players don’t grow on trees, especially in the current NBA environment. He is what he is and it’s on the Raptors front office and coaching staff to find a better shot blocking weakside/help D power forward to compensate for Jonas’ shortcomings on that end of the floor.

      Pay him and play him or move him prior to the deadline and get something in return. Those are the only two options and I have absolutely no idea what they’re going to do with JV this year or next. And until they decide on a direction they’re going to continue to be good in a weak conference, but never good ENOUGH to make a Finals run. And fantasy owners will continue to be frustrated by seeing flashes of potential without the opportunity (i.e. late game minutes) to ever see that potential fulfilled. In my opinion he belongs in the 75-100 range until something gives with the Raptors coaching staff or the jersey on his back.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @A Hill O’ Beans: @Matty: Haha wow, the Valanciunas fan club made it to Razzball! Haha just kidding 🙂

        Yeah your REL team was really good. I got lucky I snuffed out a win to end the year and make the playoffs AND DO BETTER THAN SLIM HAH! I think I should have a pretty solid team as well.

        Agree JV is gonna get paid, but yeah it’s the situation. He’s prob 80ish for me. Towns will be higher. Gortat too lol.

        The only way I see the Raps holding JV is if Casey isn’t the coach and they implode this year, and start over with a new regime. Even then, I have a feeling he’s going somewhere else. Long-term – yeah he’s a great keeper big. He could be like an 18 PPG scorer on the right team.

        Hah – yeah I totally remember seeing lines like that from JV! Huge early, barely plays late… But yes totally agree, he’s in the 80s for me with the current situation. Can’t project much more beyond this current tenure and his current team. Dynasty he indeed has some solid upside.

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: Not too sure how we define better… I had a .592 winning percent and you had a .556. 2nd place is the 1st loser right, 3rd is 2nd loser, etc… Right? You never had a shot to actually win but I can’t blame you for trying since it was your 1st year making the playoffs. =) On the other hand I saw I couldn’t win so I tried to make myself better for the future. Winning a 1st round playoff match-up meant nothing to me since I had a 1st place trophy already. I feel like I had a better year than everyone but Bassetthounds and Youth Movement who completely turned his terrible team around.

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: Oh and I am completely ready for the REL draft. I’ll have $76 dollars to fill 5 spots. Cha-Ching! All this talk about Turner and he’s going to wind up on my team, go figure.

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @Slim: Hahahaha I was hoping you didn’t read this one. Just that I made the semis – plus I had much worse injuries. You lost Burks and a little bit from other guys, I basically got no Rubio, Kawhi a month out, Knight/Ibaka the end of the year, and still made it through. Hah Ok, first year making playoffs out of… 2.

            Yeah I don’t need bigs, enjoy Turner!

            • Slim

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              @JB Gilpin: Yeah I just had bad timing with my injuries. Nurkic and Adams getting hurt and not coming back at full strength was my death knell. I just couldn’t get enough counting stats. I’m so glad I made the couple of late trades. Conley and MGasol for $68 or Clarkson and Sullinger for $5 and possibly Henson for $12. Fairly easy decision looking back.

              Oh and I’m not upset at all about trading Whiteside. I needed him off my team since I’m punting FG%. His FT% was really dragging me down and it was a cat I absolutely had to win. Maybe I could have gotten more but I never bought into how over valued he was/is. Partly because of how easy he is to defend. All he can do is alleyoop, that is the sum total of his offensive game. All it takes to stop him is to put a body on him. I can’t be the only one who sees that. Last year everyone basically said, “we’re going to stop Wade/Bosh/Dragic and make Whiteside beat us.” I think we see far less of that this year, especially with regards to Wade. And of course it only takes one game of hack-a-Whiteside to end any chance at winning FTs for the week which by itself was sinking me in the REL. That 6-fer-13 game was annoying and all but the end of season 4-fer-16 game was downright Drummondian.

              • JB Gilpin

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                @Slim: Yup you did, well we both did. That deal is looking spiffy now.

                Surrrrrre you’re not upset! But yeah the trade fit both of us at the time. I don’t think Whiteside is bad enough to hack a Whiteside. I know he had those bad ones like you mention, but I bet he improves – still young and shapable.

              • JB Gilpin

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                @A Hill O’ Beans: @Slim: I’m lame – I have a spreadsheet for mine and pretty set:

                PG Ricky Rubio $30
                PG Cory Joseph $1
                SG Brandon Knight $15
                SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope $12
                SF Kawhi Leonard $37
                SF Wilson Chandler $11
                PF Patrick Patterson $4
                PF Kevin Seraphin $1
                C Serge Ibaka $40
                C Hassan Whiteside $1
                UTIL Zach LaVine $6
                UTIL Tony Snell $1
                BN Kyle O’Quinn $1
                BN
                BN
                BN
                BN

                TOTAL $160

                Spots 4

                • A Hill O' Beans says:
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                  @JB Gilpin: Ha-ha, I’ve got a spreadsheet to! Unfortunately mine has four possible combinations as I haven’t decided which one yet. Too funny!

                  • JB Gilpin

                    JB Gilpin says:
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                    @A Hill O’ Beans: Hah yeah Mike Scott at $1 is the only possible bubble. Depends on if he’s in prison or not I guess….

                    • A Hill O' Beans says:
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                      @JB Gilpin: High standards you got there JB, ha-ha!

          • A Hill O' Beans says:
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            @Slim: Are you actually completely set on your keepers? I’m still wavering with a few of mine. Looks like I’ll have between $50 and $100 for 5-7 players. Some of which maaaay be bigs.

            • Slim

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              @A Hill O’ Beans: Yeah. The only guy I waver on is Henson for I believe $12. I’m pretty sure I’m letting him go. I’m usually pretty sure…

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:
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                @Slim: I bet he goes for more than that to a bad team, just because he’s been a buzzy name

                • Slim

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                  @JB Gilpin: I wouldn’t call Whiteside young at 26. He definitely is what he is at this point. He’s no 20 year old Nurkic or anything, or a just turned 23 Gobert.

                  Henson turns 25 in December and I’m having trouble seeing too much more upside out of him either. Although this is about the time most big men are actually ready to play. There are rumors of an 8 figure deal for Henson. If he signs an extension with them then I really don’t know what to do. $10 mil for a bench guy seems excessive and with Jabari and Monroe in town it’s tough to see upside for more than 24ish min. He could start next to either if there’s an injury, and he should be the biggest beneficiary of the available minutes with Jabari brought along slowly. Plus he’s by far their best defending big and only rim protector. There’s a lot to consider. If he doesn’t sign an extension and goes RFA next year then I’ll probably hold.

                  Stat of the day you probably didn’t know. Whiteside had 3.9 Blocks per 36 last year. Henson had 4.0. Henson is top 150 right? Especially early on.

                  • JB Gilpin

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                    @Slim: Sure, but I think I mentioned before I doubt he’s played in 50% of the number of games an average 26 yr old has played. Nurk vs. Whiteside in dynasty…? So much on future vs. now. I think I could contend now, I’m happy with Whiteside.

                    I think you should hold Henson – even though this league with budgeting is built pretty well to protect bad 1-year vet auction buys, the talent pool is going to naturally get thinner and thinner for values after the rookies.

                    Ummmm, top 150 for Henson… Monroe is going to play SOOOOO much. It’ll be close, but probably will. Such a thin pool

                    • Slim

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                      @JB Gilpin: I wasn’t talking about wear and tear. I was talking about athletic peak. Which I would put at about 25-26 for basketball. After that steals and blocks (the stats I think are most associated with athleticism) almost always trend down.

  10. Dante Green says:
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    JB, I think half of your 51-75 players would be picked between 40-50 range in my league. LOL Been playing fantasy hoops with my friends for 2 years now and I kinda have an idea on how our draft will go down. Hah

    I still hate how the Lakers brought in another PG, damn that organization. They thought they had a chance of landing Aldridge or Deandre, but they instead got…….. HIBBERT! Lol. Just imagine if Russell isn’t with the Lakers, this could well be Clarkson’s year!!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Dante Green: Hahahaha yeah those old vets I always pass on luckily fill up others’ rosters, not mine!

      Hahahahaha yeah the Lakers are morons. No one wants to play with cranky grandpa Kobe anymore… I still think Clarkson is going to do well, I don’t see Russell turning into a facilitator just yet. So I am still bullish!

      • Slim

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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah old vets almost never pan out. Like DLee the last 2 years and Tyson Chandler this year.

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          @Slim: 1 for 2 on those!

          • Slim

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            @JB Gilpin: hehe. I knew you wouldn’t let that go.

  11. Slim Charles says:
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    Keeper question for you. 10 team, 8 category roto league. Keep up to 5 forever, I have Lillard, Wall, Kawhi, Millsap, and Gobert. The person who has CP3 is willing to trade him for Wall and IT2 (on my team but not keeping) since his keepers are getting old on the whole (Paul would be his second youngest after a 29 year old Dragic). Should I be willing to take the upgrade to Paul knowing that he’s getting older with injury history or just stand pat and keep the younger Wall? Thanks for all the quality stuff, look forward to the pod tomorrow.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Slim Charles: Sickkkkk core! Wall in 8 cat roto, mmmmmmmmmmm. Nah I am holding there, Wall is younger and upside and the format makes him and Paul pretty similar. I am gonna hold there.

      Thanks man, thanks for listening!

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        @JB Gilpin:

        This was my thought as well, thanks. Took 5 years to build a set of keepers I like but now I love them. Had millsap since we started the league, drafted lillard as a rookie, kyrie as a rookie (I traded for wall recently to complement lillard better, love the dimebag), Kawhi a few years now and Gobert is the perfect 5th.

        As a jazz fan, I’ll tell you I think there’s a better chance Gobert shoots 70% of the line than he regresses at all from the 62%. He’s made it a mission in the offseason to keep improving there. I like the aggressive rank at 16th overall but I could see him even being a few spots better than that.

        Interesting to see this list since the majority of these guys will be the best players available in our auction post keepers. Lots of 3 point bombers who bring other stats to the table instead of being a ThrNAGOF. I’m a big fan of Covington, especially at this spot. The FG% will hurt but his overall stat line should be very strong even only being at 28 minutes. If he gets to 32 or so, I’d expect him to outperform his ADP by a fairly large margin.

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          @Slim Charles:

          Wow, not even close on thrAGNOF above haha.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Slim Charles: Hahaha all good! It’s a weird term…

            Dude I’m totally with you on Gobert. I dunno if he can go through an Ibaka type-FT improvement, but I do agree he can be pretty good.

            Yeah Covington has some mad upside, love his game. I think the rank builds in risk that the Sixers do something funky yet again, like their known for these past 5 years haha

  12. ByeFelica says:
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    Phew… man there’s some serious top 25 upside in the 5th & 6th rounds. Let’s do this! I’m so ready for basketball bro, this baseball crap is getting old. I’m tired of playing baseball & football. It’s all about basketball from here out!

    • Jensen says:
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      @ByeFelica: This has very little to do with basketball or rankings, but you need to find yourself some good league mates and make a year round fantasy system. I’m in a group of 7 guys who play football, basketball, hockey, and baseball every year, we fill in the extra teams for each league with some guys who are not interested in doing all sports. We spice it up by having some pretty interesting league rules and such, we have a group text that blows up my phone about every 3 hours with news, trash talk, and trade offers. I say all this because having guys who play in every league together keeps it from getting boring. My baseball team was falling apart, thanks for nothing Grey, so I traded my star players to a fellow league mate in exchange for fantasy basketball picks. On the day of the Kentucky Derby, one leaguemate and I made a Parlay bet on the Derby, the Fight, and Game 7 (Spurs-Clips) anyway I won and now have a money-in-the-bank brief case all WWE style that I can cash in during any draft to swap picks for a round. Point is, find some guys willing to play all the seasons together and crazy stuff will happen.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Jensen: I have a friend who wanted to start something like that, but it just hasn’t come around yet. I have a group of friends in baseball/football leagues, but they’re so long running it’s not a clear overlap.

        Hahaha, yeah betting on the Derby, a fight, then one game to get your money back sounds awesome!

      • ByeFelica says:
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        @Jensen: im playing in an RCL baseball league, 2 keeper leagues, 5 non keepers. That’s baseball.

        Football I played in 14 leagues across 2 sites last year & ended up breaking even due to injuries.

        I played in 10 basketball leagues last year & won $12K playing DFS.

        That being said… Haha

        I want to focus my time & energy solely on basketball this fall. Baseball is too damn long & football is pretty much luck (injuries) kill the vibe (there’s just too many variables) in football.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @ByeFelica: WOOOOO HOOPS IS WHERE IT’S AT THEN! Haha, yeah that blows me out of the water. But I don’t like to play in too many leagues, I try to keep my league number small. I prefer to have my biases and players I like, then the rest is obviously writing haha

    • Slim

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      @ByeFelica: I’m with you. I’m completely done with Football and I’m only playing one baseball league which is in the third year of a dynasty. Of course I spend way more time with basketball since I’m doing this. Although Grey asked if I wanted to do anything for baseball and I politely said, “Eff that, I only have time for fantasy basketball!”

      • JB Gilpin

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        @ByeFelica: HELL YES! Well, I still love baseball. And still play a little football, but it’s a distant 3rd as fav fantasy [email protected]Slim: Hahahaha

        • ByeFelica says:
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          @JB Gilpin: You guys got me hooked on basketball 5 years ago. It’s been my favorite (by far) ever since. Hopefully we won’t suffer from a plague of injuries like last year. Last season was terrible.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @ByeFelica: Hah, well thanks man! Eesh 5 years is before me, glad you stuck with us to the transition of this current moron editor! Hah!

      • ByeFelica says:
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        @Slim: me too slim. Last season did it for me. I won’t be playing football this year. I already told my brother to replace me in our friends & family league. I’m tired of beating them every year haha

        I won for the 3rd time in a row last year. Somebody else deserves a shot at the title.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @ByeFelica: Haha, pulling the Elway and going out on top!

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