Several have asked.  The path; fraught with peril.  The excruciating man hours; soul breaking.  But we got it together!  And well, I didn’t do that much work to be honest…  Everyone that uses the Official Razzball Top 200 on draft day with these sortable stats by Slim’s projections, be sure to thank Curtis and Rudy!  And Slim did the heavy lifting using his maths!  Curtis helped put together the stats, then Rudy with his wizardry made this look spiffy and easily sortable.  We’re such a community!  Need some steals late?  BOOM!  Mario Chalmers and Corey Brewer are still on the board.  If you have any questions let us know, and be sure if this helped you at all, thank Curtis and Rudy in the comments, and of course Slim for his hard work using his abacus!

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# PLAYER POS FG% FT% 3P PTS RBS AST STL BLK TO MIN NOTES
Al Horford, ATL PF, C 54 72 0.0 18.0 8.9 3.0 1.0 1.3 2.2 34 Was having a career season until the pec injury. Same argument as Millsap – another perimeter threat will help Horford down low.
Al Jefferson, CHA PF, C 49 73 0.0 20.0 10.0 2.0 1.0 1.0 1.7 34 Had an unreal run in the second half of 13-14, going 25.2/11.4/2.3/1/1 from Jan. 14 to the end of the year. Plantar fascia seems to be a non-issue.
Alec Burks, UTA DOWN PG, SG 46 76 0.8 16.5 3.8 3.0 1.1 0.3 2.1 32 I’ve just completely soured on Jazz Gs. I think the scoring will be nice, but I think I botched the original #100 ranking. Not big on treys, pretty bad TO, and might lose PT to groom Exum late in the year…
Alex Len, PHO UP C 51 66 0.0 5.5 5.1 0.6 0.2 0.8 1.2 18 With no one else behind Miles Plumlee, who really fell off last year, the former #5 pick could be a really interesting off-the-radar surprise. I still just have a gut feeling on this one.
Amir Johnson, TOR PF, C 56 68 0.3 12.0 7.6 1.6 0.9 1.4 1.4 30 Lingering ankle issue and Raptors PF depth scare me.
Anderson Varejao, CLE PF, C 50 67 0.0 8.0 9.2 2.0 1.0 0.6 1.1 26 Big rebounds and not too much else in a sub-30 MPG role, does sneak in a steal a game for you from a big.
Andre Drummond, DET UP PF, C 60 44 0.0 14.5 12.9 0.5 1.4 1.7 1.5 34 A lot of people are still reaching, but while I’m not getting him close to top 20, I needed to move him up a smidge. Probably not ending up on a lot of my teams, but if he’s there in my third round when I had the 6th or 7th pick, definitely taking him.
Andre Iguodala, GSW SG, SF 46 66 0.9 10.0 4.4 3.9 1.3 0.3 1.5 30 I think he’s going to lead the second unit, losing the starting job to Draymond, then still has to fend off Barnes for minutes.
Andrea Bargnani, NYK PF, C 43 82 0.8 13.0 4.6 0.9 0.4 0.8 1.4 28 13.7/5.3/1.1/0.3/1.3 with 0.7 treys and only 1.3 TOs in 23 starts last year, and a good fit for the Triangle offense. There’s upside there, even if it’s hard to believe…
Andrew Bogut, GSW C 57 45 0.0 7.5 9.5 1.6 0.6 1.6 1.4 26 Always ends up ranked higher than you’d expect, but always ends up as hurt as you’d expect…
Andrew Wiggins, MIN SF 44 77 0.9 13.5 4.7 1.2 1.2 0.9 2.4 30 Uncertain role that seems likely to begin off the bench, upside of the second half keeps him a mid-round reach.
Anthony Davis, NOP PF, C 51 78 0.4 23.5 9.8 1.8 1.5 3.0 1.9 38 Very legit chance of going 20/10 with a rainbow line. Well, we can dream and he could be really close. As close as his brows!
Arron Afflalo, DEN SG, SF 46 82 1.7 16.5 3.4 3.3 0.6 0.2 1.9 34 Never been a fan, but the Nuggets needed a more consistent wing last year and he’ll be playing with the best PG he’s ever been paired with.
Avery Bradley, BOS PG, SG 44 79 1.6 15.5 3.7 1.6 1.1 0.1 1.8 32 Brings you some scoring and out-of-position boards, but not too much upside.
Blake Griffin, LAC PF, C 53 72 0.0 24.0 9.4 4.0 1.2 0.6 2.7 36 A breakout last year, I think he replicates his 13-14. But why in the name of Mutumbo can this guy not block more shots?!
Boris Diaw, SAS PF, C 51 72 0.5 8.5 4.1 2.8 0.6 0.4 1.5 24 Late source of out-of-position assists, giving you 2.8 a game last year from a center.
Bradley Beal, WAS SG 42 80 1.9 18.0 3.8 3.5 1.0 0.2 1.8 36 Fairly empty stat line with a bad FG%, he’s a better real-life asset. Others will reach.
Brandan Wright, DAL PF, C 60 70 0.0 10.5 4.9 0.7 0.7 1.1 0.8 22 Not too much depth behind Dirk and Tyson, and both are way up there in age giving Wright a shot at more than expected minutes.
Brandon Jennings, DET PG 39 78 1.8 15.0 2.9 7.4 1.3 0.1 2.6 32 Horrific last year, and Stan Van emphasizing rotations and defense isn’t going to help. But still upside; he’s a talented player.
Brandon Knight, MIL PG, SG 43 79 1.6 19.0 3.6 5.1 1.0 0.2 2.7 34 Numbers were stellar once he was fully back from the early hammy issues, playmakers like Parker and Giannis along with Kidd at the helm give him further breakout upside.
Brook Lopez, BKN C 51 79 0.0 18.0 6.0 1.0 0.5 1.6 1.7 30 Was 12th overall in per-game value in a short 13-14 sample, injury-risk still a big concern, but upside is tremendous.
C.J. McCollum, POR PG, SG 44 81 1.6 13.5 3.6 2.7 1.2 0.2 1.9 26 Really if he was anywhere else he could be a major sleeper, still should see productive minutes as main backup G.
C.J. Miles, IND SG, SF 42 81 1.5 12.5 2.7 1.9 1.0 0.3 1.2 28 Deep source of treys and steals, especially if he wins the starting 3 role over Solomon Hill.
Carlos Boozer, LAL PF, C 48 73 0.0 14.0 8.5 1.7 0.7 0.3 2.1 28 Even though he only scores and boards, starting minutes should be there.
Carmelo Anthony, NYK SF, PF 46 83 2.2 27.0 6.8 3.5 1.0 0.5 2.6 38 I don’t expect the career highs in boards and blocks to carry over to 14-15, but will be the same elite scorer for Phil J’s triangle.
Chandler Parsons, DAL SF, PF 47 75 1.7 15.5 5.6 3.9 1.2 0.4 1.8 36 Immediately makes me a Mavs fan, but still in a high-powered offense and won’t vault too much in value. I’m hoping his ADP is a round lower.
Channing Frye, ORL DOWN PF, C 43 81 2.0 11.0 5.6 1.2 0.7 0.8 1.0 30 Out-of-position ThrAGNOF is great and all, especially since no one on ORL can hit treys, but I had him a little too high to be happy to get him.
Chris Andersen, MIA UP PF, C 56 68 0.0 7.0 6.6 0.2 0.5 1.7 0.9 22 The late availability of blocks with a pretty low-risk investment is worth a rank here, especially for deeper-leaguers needing da swats.
Chris Bosh, MIA UP PF, C 50 82 0.7 18.0 7.4 2.2 0.9 1.0 1.9 34 No LeBron, time to own! I’m still not reaching too too hard, but moving him up a few spots.
Chris Paul, LAC DOWN PG 46 86 1.2 18.0 4.1 10.6 2.3 0.1 2.2 36 Just flip-flopping the two, Paul’s category-killing dimes are awesome, but Harden brings slightly more to the table. Including his facial hair.
Corey Brewer, MIN SG, SF 45 71 0.6 11.5 2.6 1.6 1.7 0.4 1.3 30 Elite steals guy, knows his game and should start again. I think he’s a great athlete and can surprise with nice boards as well with Love gone.
Cory Joseph, SAS PG 46 82 0.4 8.5 2.7 2.9 1.0 0.3 1.1 20 A sleeper pick due to lack of roster depth, Patty Mills is coming off rotator cuff surgery and Tony Parker is always hurt. Could leave Joseph with a lot more minutes than people expect.
D.J. Augustin, DET UP PG 42 88 1.3 10.5 1.7 3.9 0.7 0.1 1.6 24 There’s been nothing but encouragement for D.J., and nothing optimistic about Jennings. A full split could happen quickly, if not a full changing of the guard. No pun intended!
Damian Lillard, POR PG 43 87 2.8 22.0 3.5 6.5 1.0 0.2 2.4 36 Opening the run on PGs, Lillard gives you elite 3s/FT%/consistency. Should be third straight season of solid-ness.
Danilo Gallinari, DEN SF 41 80 1.6 13.5 4.7 2.2 0.8 0.4 1.4 28 Will be a forgotten name in many draft rooms, still offers a pretty good fantasy line if he’s healthy.
Danny Green, SAS SG, SF 44 80 2.1 10.0 3.3 1.6 0.9 0.8 1.2 26 Took off after the ASB, shooting 6% better and upping treys from 1.5 to 2.6. Pop will make him frustrating, but will end up a value.
Dante Exum, UTA DOWN PG 40 72 0.6 8.5 2.4 2.9 0.8 0.1 1.7 24 Knew he would fall mightily after publishing the ranks the first time through, just too raw for the NBA to trust for anything right now. Second half chance for minutes keeps him top 200.
Darren Collison, SAC PG 46 84 1.3 14.0 2.8 5.9 1.4 0.2 2.1 34 McCallum looms, but they gave Colly starting money and he’ll have the keys. Should facilitate well with low TOs.
David Lee, GSW PF, C 51 78 0.0 17.0 8.9 2.4 0.7 0.3 2.1 30 Boring Pts/Reb guy, solid %s and high-floor keep him top-60.
David West, IND PF 48 79 0.0 15.5 7.2 2.8 0.8 0.8 1.9 30 Somebody has to score for the Pacers, and West was so underrated last year with a 46th overall finish. Should be an easy value target in the mids.
DeAndre Jordan, LAC C 65 44 0.0 9.5 11.7 0.8 0.9 2.1 1.3 32 Played 3 minutes less a game post-ASB, and getting benched late is a worry for me. No way he plays 35 per in 14-15. I think we see more hack-a-Dre.
DeMar DeRozan, TOR DOWN SG, SF 43 82 0.5 23.0 4.1 3.9 0.9 0.3 2.1 36 As I mentioned before, for as high-volume a scorer he is, TOs very manageable. Solid FT shooter, assists have consistently gone up for his career, he can plug a lot of holes for roster comp early in the mid-rounds.
DeMarcus Cousins, SAC PF, C 49 74 0.0 24.0 12.0 3.0 1.6 1.3 3.5 34 Finally put it all together last year, and should once again set a career mark in scoring with IT2 replaced by Collison.
DeMarre Carroll, ATL SF, PF 47 77 1.3 11.0 5.6 1.8 1.4 0.3 1.1 32 Was a much better player after Horford injury so I won’t reach for value he gave in 13-14.
Deron Williams, BKN PG 44 81 1.4 15.0 2.6 6.6 1.1 0.2 2.5 32 Minutes will be down again and injuries always seem to derail him, but still has some upside. Worth the gamble on his ankles at this point.
Derrick Favors, UTA PF, C 51 69 0.0 16.0 9.6 1.4 1.1 1.8 2.0 34 So, so underrated. Shot 52.2% from the field last year, and with a terrible supporting cast, was creating his own post opportunities. Played only 30 MPG last year, will get expanded if he can cut down the fouls and boost the board and blocks.
Derrick Rose, CHI PG 42 82 1.6 18.0 3.2 6.3 0.8 0.4 3.4 32 I’m likely passing on D-Rose in all leagues, I think he’s lost too much with the knee injuries and I don’t like the risk.
Dion Waiters, CLE SG 43 72 1.5 13.5 2.6 2.8 0.9 0.2 1.9 28 Super-duper ThrAGNOF with lower offensive volume with LeBron in town. Should find himself a lot of wide open treys though…
Dirk Nowitzki, DAL PF, C 48 88 1.4 21.0 6.2 2.6 0.9 0.6 1.5 34 The age is the question, but I don’t see much of a fall off. That said, boards are trending down.
Donatas Motiejunas, HOU SF, PF 44 62 0.5 8.0 4.9 0.8 0.5 0.4 1.2 20 Even though he’s not listed as a C on Yahoo, is the only C behind Dwight and could be a sneaky value for out-of-position treys.
Doug McDermott, CHI SF 43 86 1.6 9.5 3.2 1.3 0.2 0.1 1.4 20 Told he’ll need to jack up treys and could start at the 3. Not going to do much besides 3s/Pts though…
Draymond Green, GSW SF 43 74 0.9 10.0 6.2 2.7 1.7 0.9 1.4 28 #OccupyDraymondGreen! A monster last year in a low-minutes role, has a shot to start the 3 with Iggy off the bench. Multi-cat upside all over the place!
Dwight Howard, HOU PF, C 58 55 0.0 18.0 11.9 1.6 0.9 2.9 2.9 34 FT shooting kills him in 9-cat, would be near elite in non-FT/non-TO leagues. Ultimate league settings-variable pick.
Dwyane Wade, MIA PG, SG 50 74 0.3 20.0 4.5 4.8 1.4 0.5 2.9 32 DNPs, injuries, minutes restrictions, oh my! Wicked witch of having bad knees…
Elfird Payton, ORL UP PG 48 65 0.5 11.0 5.7 6.9 1.6 0.4 3.2 32 Nothing’s changed with him being a horrible FT shooter for a PG and he’s going to turn the ball over way too much, but as I’ve found in drafts, PG dries up ridiculously fast. He’s the last option for assists upside.
Enes Kanter, UTA UP C 49 74 0.0 13.0 7.6 1.0 0.4 0.6 1.9 28 I maintain he’s terrible on defense and was much better against second units last year, but the move to PF with Favors to C fits his game so much better, and sheer volume of minutes will give him value.
Eric Bledsoe, PHX PG, SG 47 78 1.2 17.5 4.8 5.6 1.6 0.4 3.4 34 I expect to be one of the lowest rankers on E Bled, finished only 52nd in per-game last year.  While contract is hammered out, injury-risk still there, turned the ball over way too much in his first season as a full-time starter.
Eric Gordon, NOP SG 43 80 1.4 15.0 2.2 3.1 1.0 0.2 1.9 30 Yet another offseason knee surgery, played in 115/246 games the past three years. Not touching him.
Ersan Ilyasova, MIL SF, PF 43 82 0.5 11.5 6.1 1.1 0.7 0.2 1.0 24 Looked downright awful last year, but was top 50 in 12-13 and came into last year with a bum ankle. Won’t be me seeing if he can bounce back though…
Evan Turner, BOS SG, SF 42 76 0.3 7.5 3.1 2.2 0.4 0.1 1.3 20 In a minutes crunch on a crowded rotations-based team, but could do something useful.
George Hill, IND PG, SG 44 80 1.3 12.0 3.7 4.4 1.0 0.3 1.5 32 Again low-upside, but could get back to 12-13 numbers with Paul George being out.
Gerald Green, PHO SG, SF 44 83 1.8 12.0 2.4 0.8 0.6 0.2 1.4 22 I just don’t see the minutes, and pre-ranks of him top 100 are outrageous. Should hit some treys for you, but not a guy you’ll have on your roster all year.
Giannis Antetokounmpo, MIL UP SG, SF 46 74 1.0 13.5 6.2 2.4 1.0 1.0 2.2 32 1.7:1.7 AST:TO pre-ASB to 2.3:1.5 post showed huge improvement with the ball, going to get a starting role, offers upside in all 9 cats. A huge Razzball favorite, and moving him up a little further after missing him in RCL Draft #1 (went 73rd).
Goran Dragic, PHO PG, SG 48 77 1.4 18.0 3.1 6.2 1.4 0.3 2.7 34 One of my big crushes this year, the FG% from a PG is elite. I see dimes going up and an even better follow-up after his 13-14 breakout.
Gordon Hayward, UTA SG, SF 43 82 1.4 18.0 5.2 5.3 1.4 0.5 2.6 36 His shooting from the field has consistently gone down in more minutes, Exum/Burke are not going to help FG% and TOs. Some slumps are going to be tough to bear, but overall slash should be solid.
Gorgui Dieng, MIN UP C 51 68 0.0 7.5 7.6 0.9 0.6 0.9 1.1 20 Pekovic is going to be limited to 26-27 minutes a game, which means gimme the Dieng train! If he’s routinely over 20 minutes a game, on top of the really realistic shot at numerous starts behind brittle Pek, he needs to be drafted aggressively. Last 18 games last year (15 starts) 12/11.3/1.5/1.1/1.5 shooting 53% FG 71% FT only 1.8 TO. Gimme the Dieng train!
Greg Monroe, DET DOWN PF, C 49 68 0.0 16.5 9.6 2.4 1.2 0.7 1.8 34 Stan Van has quoted that both Smoove and Drummond have great hops for defense, while Monroe is going to miss two games and has peed on himself. Need I say more?
Henry Sims, PHI UP C 50 75 0.0 12.0 7.2 1.8 0.9 0.5 1.4 28 13.1/7.7/2/0.9/0.4 with only 1.4 TO in final 19 games last year, and should start for most of the year until Embiid is 100% ready. Nothing has sounded too optimistic for Embiid and Sims is ready to provide solid big man stats, but he’s not a blocker. You have to figure that in with your roster comp.
Hollis Thompson, PHI SF, PF 45 74 1.3 8.0 3.6 1.3 0.9 0.2 1.1 28 Treys and steals upside if he indeed starts, right now is lightly penciled in.
Iman Shumpert, NYK SG, SF 40 76 1.1 9.0 3.8 2.3 1.4 0.2 1.1 28 Offers you a steal and a trey, and that’s about it. Tough competition for minutes against emerging Timmay J.
Isaiah Thomas, PHO PG 45 85 1.5 16.0 2.4 5.3 1.0 0.1 2.4 28 I thought IT2 was going to be an interesting sleeper, but he’s getting ranked obscenely high. I don’t think he’s ever the facilitator with Dragic or Bledsoe, and the dimes drop way off.
J.J. Redick, LAC SG 44 90 2.2 15.0 2.3 2.4 0.7 0.1 1.2 30 In an injury-riddled campaign, was actually 67th in per-game last year. A great fit in the Clips O for sneaky value. Plus, he’s on the positive end of ThrAGNOF!
J.R. Smith, NYK SG, SF 42 72 2.5 15.5 3.8 2.6 1.0 0.2 1.5 32 Career-high assists last year with horrible Felton at PG, those will go down, treys to regress, never been a JR fan.
Jabari Parker, MIL SF 46 76 0.7 14.5 7.8 1.0 0.9 0.7 2.8 30 I’m reaching for the rookie – I think counting stats will be reliable and have a pretty consistent 34ish minute role.
Jamal Crawford, LAC PG, SG 41 87 2.0 16.0 1.9 2.7 0.8 0.1 1.8 28 Spiked in dimes while CP3 was hurt, minutes and points to regress and late nagging injuries last year scare me.
Jameer Nelson, DAL PG 41 83 2.1 11.0 3.2 5.8 0.7 0.1 2.1 30 Best fit of the 3 Mavericks PGs since he can hit treys. I see him surprising this year as an old vet sleeper.
James Ennis, MIA SF 45 77 1.0 7.0 3.2 0.9 0.7 0.5 1.1 20 Heat lack youth and explosiveness at backup wing, summer league sure opened some eyes.
James Harden, HOU UP SG, SF 45 86 2.5 26.0 4.9 6.4 1.7 0.4 3.7 38 Considering the unbelievable post-ASB slash of 27.7/4.7/7.4/1.9/0.3 shooting 47% from the field with three treys a game – and no Jeremy Lin – I see a new career-high in assists for an out-of-position option that should surpass Paul’s output. And you can’t discount the high-volume FT shooting that can win your weekly FTs.
James Johnson, TOR SF, PF 45 73 0.3 7.5 4.2 1.8 0.9 1.0 1.3 20 Listed as a SF reserve could make him really interesting since Terrence Ross is a question mark at best as a starter, per-36s last year were redonk.
Jared Sullinger, BOS PF, C 44 78 1.0 15.0 8.4 1.8 0.6 0.7 1.9 30 13.9/9/1.8/0.5/0.8 with 0.8 treys in 44 starts last year, in 29:33 a game. Markieff Morris-lite.
Jarrett Jack, BKN PG, SG 43 84 0.9 11.5 3.1 4.3 0.7 0.2 1.8 30 Will fill in admirably in the Shaun Livingston role, doing nothing exceptional but being useful.
Jason Smith, NYK PF, C 46 77 0.0 8.0 4.8 0.6 0.3 0.9 0.9 20 Late-round flyer for some boards and a block, should see some decent minutes behind Dalembert.
JaVale McGee, DEN C 53 59 0.0 10.0 6.8 0.5 0.5 1.7 1.5 24 Blocks upside still there, will have to compete for minutes.
Jeff Adrien, HOU SF, PF 49 66 0.0 9.5 7.1 0.8 0.6 0.7 1.1 22 Post-ASB was 10.5/7.6/1.1/0.6/0.8 in only 24:25 MPG last year – with little 3/4 depth in Houston, could play those minutes again in 14-15.
Jeff Green, BOS SG, SF 43 80 1.4 15.0 4.5 1.5 0.6 0.6 1.9 32 One of the “busts of the year” for 13-14, really nothing indicates he’ll be any better in 14-15.
Jeff Teague, ATL PG 46 84 1.0 17.0 2.7 6.6 1.3 0.3 2.8 34 Was so brutal in January last year, I’m worried by his streakiness.
Jeremy Lin, LAL PG, SG 44 79 1.2 14.0 2.8 6.2 1.3 0.4 2.7 30 Low-upside, but Kobe to take the pressure off and a change of scenery could make him sneaky value. Don’t discount those steals!
Jimmy Butler, CHI SG, SF 42 77 1.3 14.0 5.2 2.7 2.0 0.6 1.5 36 Shot under 40% last year and should see lower scoring with Rose back. Love his real-life game, 13-14 numbers slightly inflated by 38:39 MPG which is likely to go down a bit.
Joakim Noah, CHI PF, C 49 74 0.0 12.0 10.4 3.8 1.2 1.6 2.1 34 Had a career season without Rose, obvious regression to hit and lengthy track record of lingering injuries scares me.
Jodie Meeks, DET SG 43 87 2.1 12.5 2.0 1.6 1.1 0.1 1.3 32 Great %s from a high-volume 3-shooter, should rack up steals in Stan Van’s D, I think he’ll come somewhere close to what he did in 13-14 which was a top-50 overall. KCP looming for minutes does scare me though.
Joe Johnson, BKN SG, SF 44 82 1.8 14.5 3.3 2.9 0.6 0.1 1.6 32 Had some big spikes when D-Will got hurt, but D-Will will have some injury stretches again…
John Henson, MIL UP PF, C 53 53 0.0 12.0 7.9 1.7 0.7 1.7 1.7 28 Early news is he’ll get the first shot to start, and in 23 starts last year 13.3/8.5/2/0.5/2. Poor man’s FT-punt big! Give him the minutes or give me death!
John Wall, WAS PG 44 81 1.3 20.5 4.1 9.2 1.8 0.7 3.6 38 Led NBA in total assists, played 82 games, and still young and developing with Beal. Hopefully the slight signs of wear down last year (dare I say, he hit a wall?) we be overcome.
Jonas Valanciunas, TOR C 54 78 0.0 13.5 9.0 0.8 0.4 1.1 1.8 30 Vastly improved post-ASB, especially with FG% from 50 to 58, and maybe had some sophomore-slump-itis or an injury most of last year. Upside to bounce back, but I can’t reach after being burnt last year.
Jordan Hill, LAL UP PF, C 53 72 0.0 14.0 8.3 0.9 0.7 1.4 1.6 28 13/8.9/0.8/0.5/1.1 in 32 starts last year, and still in under 25 minutes a game. Needs the role, but I find myself wanting him top 100 for the blocks and great boards. Let’s hope he gets the consistent role!
Jose Calderon, NYK PG 45 84 2.3 11.0 2.4 6.1 0.9 0.1 1.6 32 I’m buying a decent Ast resurgence in the triangle O, with similar 3s output and low TOs. Was a surprising value last year.
Josh McRoberts, MIA PF, C 44 73 1.3 10.0 5.6 3.9 0.8 0.6 1.1 30 Should repeat 13-14 numbers – overall value last year inflated a bit by low TO. Solid plug-n-play for across the board stats.
Josh Smith, DET SF, PF 43 56 0.7 15.0 6.6 3.1 1.2 1.4 2.4 32 This rank is hoping Stan Van Gundy gets through to him and Smith improves the terrible %s and TOs. If he becomes a sixth man, I think he can maintain big Stl/Blk numbers even in reduced minutes.
Jrue Holiday, NOP PG 44 78 1.0 15.0 4.2 7.8 1.6 0.4 3.3 34 The Pelicans are turning into a really interesting team if they can stay healthy, with Jrue the true PG running the show. December slash of 16.3/4.6/9/1.4/0.4 while finally gelling with the offense pre-injury shows you the upside.
Julius Randle, LAL PF 46 70 0.0 12.0 7.3 1.2 0.5 0.6 2.2 26 I’m passing on this rook, has to fend off a lot of guys for minutes and is only a scorer/boarder.
K.J. McDaniels, PHI UP SF 43 77 0.8 12.5 5.6 1.4 1.0 1.2 1.7 30 The upside for a starting role is still there, and not many wings give you blocks. Worth the last pick flier.
Kawhi Leonard, SAS UP SG, SF 49 81 1.4 15.0 6.8 2.2 1.9 0.8 1.5 34 The risk is only in usage both in role and minutes, but Pop had an encouraging quote citing he will be coaching Kawhi consistency to be in the upper echelon of players. But even his floor is a pretty nasty multi-cat game.
Kelly Olynyk, BOS C 48 81 0.8 12.0 7.1 2.7 0.5 0.5 1.9 28 A decent NBA player, but not a good starter and will be stuck in a minutes logjam.
Kemba Walker, CHA PG 41 82 1.6 18.0 4.2 6.4 1.4 0.4 2.4 36 Late-January ankle sprain lingered through the end of the season, improving AST:TO ratio while shooting tremendously pre-injury could make a draft day steal.
Kendall Marshall, MIL DOWN PG 41 68 0.9 7.5 2.1 6.4 0.7 0.1 2.0 24 Eh, I think I looked at him with too much D’Antoni’s-crappy-team/opportunity-colored glasses. This still has him higher than most, especially since assists come at such a premium this year.
Kenneth Faried, DEN UP PF 54 70 0.0 19.0 10.4 1.6 1.1 2.3 2.3 32 Slim still likes him a little higher than here, and there’s no doubting his athleticism, but FT shooting and not much more upside in Stls/Blks tempers my expectations a little bit. If he’s here this late though, yeah I’m all-in.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET SG 42 77 1.3 11.5 2.7 1.1 1.4 0.2 1.0 26 My boyfriend! StanVan loves his D from KCP with no TO. It’s like a Sesame Street episode! Needs to carry over season finale game/Summer League play into the season, but worth the upside.
Kevin Durant, OKC SF, PF 51 88 2.2 31.0 7.6 5.0 1.3 0.8 3.5 38 Less expected than an M. Night Shyamalan twist – apparently his next movie is called “Labor of Love”. The twist? Bruce Willis is actually Kevin Love. And is an alien.
Kevin Love, CLE PF, C 47 82 2.3 21.0 11.2 2.6 0.7 0.4 2.1 36 With LeBron and Varejao cutting into his boards, Kyrie will also slash his points and treys. Still a multi-cat contributor, but not the top-5 stud while in Minny.
Kevin Martin, MIN SG, SF 43 89 1.7 19.0 3.0 1.8 1.0 0.1 1.7 32 No more Love makes K-Mart the main offensive threat and should hit a bajillion treys.
Khris Middleton, MIL SF, PF 45 83 0.7 8.0 2.9 1.3 0.9 0.2 0.9 24 Finished 75th last year in total value, was durable for 82 games, is versatile enough to play backup to the 2, 3 and 4.
Klay Thompson, GSW SG, SF 45 80 2.7 18.0 3.1 2.1 0.9 0.4 1.6 36 Poster boy of ThrAGNOF – don’t overpay for high-volume threes and low TOs while he does nothing else special.
Kobe Bryant, LAL PG, SG 43 84 1.3 19.0 4.6 5.0 1.1 0.2 2.0 34 Incredibly polarizing – upside is huge, downside is he gets hurt again early on. I feel good with the risk here.
Kris Humphries, WAS PF, C 50 80 0.0 10.0 6.6 1.0 0.5 1.0 1.0 24 Backup PF/C minutes galore, with both guys ahead of him old and injury-prone. Solid when given run last year.
Kyle Korver, ATL SG, SF 47 92 2.6 12.0 4.0 3.0 0.9 0.3 1.5 34 Not reaching for the ThrAGNOF, but another year of big minutes, big treys, and no TOs are in store. Plus he’s got sharp, oh so sharp talons.
Kyle Lowry, TOR PG 42 80 2.1 17.0 4.4 7.2 1.5 0.2 2.4 34 A monster breakout last year, I think he can do it again, injury-risk after career-long issue still a big concern.
Kyrie Irving, CLE PG, SG 44 86 1.6 18.0 3.4 5.2 1.5 0.3 2.4 34 It’s all postulation, but I think Kyrie can surprise with ratios, get more assists than most (Slim!) expects, but at the expense of a few points.
LaMarcus Aldridge, POR PF, C 46 81 0.0 22.0 9.8 2.5 0.9 0.9 1.9 36 The FG% from a big is no fun, but a sneaky multi-cat contributor.
Lance Stephenson, CHA SG, SF 48 71 1.2 14.5 7.2 4.2 0.8 0.1 2.6 36 TOs should go down, but so should the boards. Like PBev, nothing exciting but sheer volume should accrue value.
Larry Sanders, MIL DOWN PF, C 49 56 0.0 9.0 8.1 1.1 0.9 2.3 1.2 28 So hard to rank, so hard to like as a person, but upside is still there and his contract means he’s going to at least get a shot. Henson might start, however Sanders was still a monster in 12-13 at 27 MPG. I’m not reaching; that said, not explicitly passing either. Moving down a few spots since I love Henson so much.
LeBron James, CLE SF, PF 55 75 1.3 25.0 6.4 5.9 1.6 0.4 3.2 38 Disappearing blocks, regressing boards – especially with Love joining – and arguably the best supporting cast with the best PG he’s played with. Less rock for King!
Luis Scola, IND PF, C 47 75 0.0 8.0 5.2 1.2 0.3 0.2 1.4 20 Hibbert could continue to be awful, Mahinmi is hurt, there’s just no depth on that front line.
Luol Deng, MIA SF, PF 43 77 0.9 16.0 5.4 2.6 1.0 0.2 1.5 34 I see a good resurgence in Miami, was having a really big year in Chicago before being awful post-trade. He fits better in South Beach.
Manu Ginobili, SAS SG, SF 45 84 1.4 12.5 3.1 4.1 0.9 0.2 2.0 24 Finished 98th in under 23 minutes a game last year, should come close to repeat but game-to-game will be maddening to own.
Marc Gasol, MEM C 48 78 0.0 15.0 7.8 3.8 1.0 1.4 1.9 34 19th overall player final two months, and that’s after recovering from a bad MCL sprain. Started slow under the Joerger regime, I’m stoked if Gasol falls to me here.
Marcin Gortat, WAS C 55 68 0.0 13.0 9.4 1.5 0.5 1.4 1.5 32 Huge season in Wizards debut, should have no problem having a comparable encore.
Marco Belinelli, SAS DOWN SG, SF 44 83 1.4 10.5 2.7 2.2 0.6 0.1 1.1 24 A roster filler with no upside, I think I had him too high considering he does no 1 thing very well. Besides not turn the ball over. And, well, get the Spurs announcers all amped up with Italian cliches…
Marcus Morris, PHO PF 45 75 1.5 11.0 4.3 1.3 1.0 0.3 1.3 26 Some minutes are opened up with Frye gone, will be a surprising bottom-end contributor with treys from a PF.
Marcus Smart, BOS UP PG 41 76 1.1 11.0 4.1 3.2 1.2 0.3 1.8 26 I’m still not huge on Smart for fantasy, but gets a bump with a probable starting role while Rondo is out. You might be dropping him after a few weeks, but he’s going to be forced into minutes and might find a spark, even if he’s not a 3-point shooter or dimer for a PG.
Mario Chalmers, MIA PG 44 77 1.7 11.5 3.2 5.6 1.7 0.2 2.4 32 Sure there’s some upside with LeBron now gone, but I’m not that enthusiastic.
Markieff Morris, PHO UP PF, C 48 79 0.8 17.0 6.8 2.2 1.0 0.9 2.2 34 Per-36 26/11.3/3.4/1.6/1.4 with 0.8 treys a game last year, and looking at a role close to those minutes. I keep getting him around here and keep feeling great about it.
Marvin Williams, CHA SF, PF 44 78 1.2 8.5 4.7 1.1 0.7 0.4 0.8 24 Off his best per-36 season, by far his best perimeter output, and should get big minutes.
Mason Plumlee, BKN PF, C 55 65 0.0 13.5 8.3 1.3 1.0 1.2 2.1 28 Could shoot way up for me if news is encouraging on his 14-15 role, per-36s in rookie year were very solid.
Matt Barnes, LAC SF 45 74 1.2 9.0 4.6 1.8 0.8 0.4 1.1 26 Like McBob, a low upside stat-stuffer late. Big 2nd half aided by no Redick who I think has a big year.
Michael Carter-Williams, PHI DOWN PG 41 71 1.0 18.0 6.4 6.7 2.0 0.7 3.6 36 You still won’t need to draft him until the 4th round most likely (at the earliest), and the lingering shoulder issue gives me a wrinkle. I’ll let you decide where that wrinkle is.
Mike Conley, MEM PG 45 82 1.4 17.0 2.8 6.1 1.7 0.2 2.1 34 Is the anti-Rubio, safer on all fronts, but without the category-killing upside.
Mike Dunleavy, CHI SG, SF 44 82 1.4 10.5 4.1 2.0 0.7 0.4 1.2 28 McDermott (maybe) stealing the starting role hurts, as does how good I think Snell is going to be. A role player with no upside.
Mike Scott, ATL PF 47 78 1.0 11.0 3.8 1.1 0.5 0.1 1.2 22 Can back up the 3 and 4, might take some injuries to really hit on upside, but deep ball threat should keep him usable in deep leagues all year.
Miles Plumlee, PHO PF, C 51 58 0.0 9.0 8.0 0.6 0.6 1.2 1.4 26 Completely fell off when the calendar turned to 2014, but for a late source of blocks, Frye let go will open up more minutes.
Mirza Teletovic, BKN UP SF, PF 43 71 2.2 11.5 4.1 1.0 0.5 0.4 0.9 24 Kirilenko is already hurt with a back issue, Kevin Garnett is a walking back issue, Teletovic is primed for a breakout with a boatload of treys. ThrAGNOF!
Monta Ellis, DAL PG, SG 44 78 0.8 19.0 3.7 5.9 1.5 0.2 3.1 36 A rock-solid safety pick, and he should have no problem duplicating 13-14 with maybe even a tad more upside with Dallas’ downgrade at PG.
Nene Hilario, WAS PF, C 50 66 0.0 13.0 5.8 2.6 1.1 0.8 1.9 28 Worth a reach if punting FT or TO, would be higher if he wasn’t so old and injury prone.
Nerlens Noel, PHI PF, C 51 68 0.0 10.5 7.4 1.3 1.5 2.6 1.9 28 This should put him on all of my teams. Immense upside, more polished offensive game than he gets credit for – the probable minutes limitation does make it a gamble.
Nick Young, LAL SG, SF 42 83 1.4 12.5 2.2 1.2 0.6 0.2 1.2 24 Sure he was 93rd last year, but hits treys with not too bad TOs (=metrics-friendly) and will get a lot less shots with Kobe back.
Nicolas Batum, POR SG, SF 47 82 2.0 13.5 7.2 5.0 1.0 0.8 2.4 36 Safe, reliable, multi-cat goodness. Should replicate 13-14 with relative ease.
Nik Stauskas, SAC SG 43 83 1.6 11.0 2.2 2.3 0.4 0.1 1.0 26 I see him taking McLemore’s job and being a surprise source of assists with low TOs, along with the given treys and good %s.
Nikola Pekovic, MIN DOWN C 53 74 0.0 17.0 8.7 1.0 0.6 0.6 1.7 30 Minutes reduction is an absolute killer. Gave you his previous output through volume, and really only scores and rebounds. Yikes.
Nikola Vucevic, ORL PF, C 51 77 0.0 16.0 11.8 1.9 1.0 1.0 2.0 34 Has always been underrated, should have another 1+ 5-cat line with his minutes bouncing back up and terrific %s.
Omer Asik, NOP PF, C 54 60 0.0 9.0 10.2 0.5 0.5 1.2 1.8 28 Beyond boards and a block a game, doesn’t do too much and won’t get huge minutes. FT drain a bugaboo too.
Otto Porter, WAS (projection in progress) UP SF 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 Huge Summer League (first-team), and the favorite for minutes behind Grandpa Truth. No Martell Webster for a bit could give him some minutes at the 2 as well if the Wiz want to play big.
P.J. Tucker, PHO SG, SF 44 77 1.0 10.0 6.6 1.7 1.3 0.3 1.3 30 A little regression in value and minutes likely, already missing three games to suspension and isn’t exactly a special player.
Patrick Beverley, HOU PG, SG 43 81 1.8 12.5 3.8 3.1 1.5 0.5 1.4 34 More minutes with Lin gone, his metric-friendly 3s/low TOs should carry over with good steals. Nothing too exciting, but value will add up.
Pau Gasol, CHI DOWN PF, C 50 75 0.0 16.0 8.4 2.9 0.4 1.3 1.8 30 While my blurb before holds true (FG% should jump back up on a better team, out-of-position dimes are huge, chips in blocks still as well… Not much to not like other than injury risk), like Gay, I just never end up getting him so moved him down a little. I don’t want no boring!
Paul Millsap, ATL PF, C 47 74 1.0 19.0 8.7 3.1 1.8 1.0 2.5 36 A bit of a reach, but his best month of scoring/treys in 13-14 was with Horford on the court, and will continue to develop the perimeter game with Horford establishing the paint.
Paul Pierce, WAS SF, PF 44 82 1.4 13.0 4.4 2.2 1.0 0.3 2.0 28 Age obviously up there, and the Wiz are loaded at SF. A healthy, big-minute season would make this way wrong, but I’m hedging against it.
Rajon Rondo, BOS DOWN PG 45 63 0.7 12.0 5.3 9.6 1.5 0.1 3.2 32 Arguably the biggest news of the past month, a broken hand will cost him 10ish games. I think I had him a little too high to begin with as well…
Ramon Sessions, SAC (projection in progress) UP PG, SG 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 Impossible to rank until he signed, but I love him going to SAC. Could run some 1/2 with Collison, will get most of the backup PG minutes, and had value behind Kemba in Charlotte years and late last year in Milwaukee.
Randy Foye, DEN PG, SG 41 85 1.3 10.0 2.1 2.5 0.6 0.2 1.2 22 Had a huge year last year, but a greatly reduced role behind Lawson and Afflalo in 14-15.
Reggie Jackson, OKC PG, SG 45 88 1.2 14.5 4.4 4.6 1.2 0.2 2.0 30 Solid as a starter last year, and while most of those starts were without Westbrook, sheer volume of minutes as the probable starting 2 should add up nice numbers.
Ricky Rubio, MIN PG 39 80 0.8 12.0 4.2 8.9 2.4 0.1 3.0 34 The offense continues to be muy mal, but another elite ast/stl season is worth the price of admission.
Robin Lopez, POR C 54 81 0.0 11.0 8.6 0.8 0.4 1.6 1.0 32 Played 82 games past two years, and low TOs help the overall seasonal-ranking. I probably should be higher, but just can’t get over how not great at basketball he is…
Rodney Hood, UTA SF 41 81 1.2 7.5 3.0 1.2 0.5 0.1 0.9 20 Sneaky ThrAGNOF upside, the Jazz have a serious lack of other perimeter shooters.
Rodney Stuckey, IND PG, SG 43 83 0.5 15.5 3.2 3.8 0.9 0.2 2.1 32 George Hill isn’t a passer and Stuckey might be the main offensive catalyst. While on an offensively-challenged team, still think he can surprise.
Roy Hibbert, IND C 45 76 0.0 12.0 7.1 1.3 0.4 2.1 1.9 28 I’m not touching Hibbert unless he falls way down and I need blocks.
Rudy Gay, SAC DOWN SF, PF 45 79 0.7 19.0 5.5 2.8 1.3 0.6 2.8 34 Through mocks and a few drafts, he just isn’t appealing to me in the 30s. Serviceable, but boring. Nothing has changed, just how I’ve analyzed him after drafting a lot of teams.
Rudy Gobert, UTA UP C 56 58 0.0 5.0 7.2 0.3 0.3 1.5 1.3 20 Still has the always-in-foul-trouble worry and can’t hit FT, but blocks upside this late has no one else more appealing.
Russ Smith, NOP (projection in progress) UP PG 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 Another gut feeling. Has reportedly won the backup PG role over Austin Rivers, played great in Summer League, and while I like Jrue a lot, he’s certainly brittle and still has the leg issue. Off-the-radar upside.
Russell Westbrook, OKC PG 44 82 1.4 23.0 5.2 7.2 1.8 0.2 3.8 34 A rough 13-14 season with injuries and TOs, he developed a career-best perimeter game and I think a healthy season will reap 10th overall value.
Ryan Anderson, NOP PF, C 43 85 2.4 15.0 6.2 1.0 0.4 0.3 0.9 28 Out-of-position treys with virtually no TOs makes him a good pair with the bigger name PGs, while spinal injury last year is scary, I think he’ll bounce back and be healthy.
Ryan Kelly, LAL PF 43 82 0.7 7.5 3.4 1.5 0.5 0.6 0.8 18 Even though there’s a ton of depth at PF on the Lakers, he’s the only one that can stretch the floor.
Samuel Dalembert, NYK C 56 75 0.0 9.0 7.9 0.7 0.6 1.3 1.3 24 I think Jason Smith is going to steal more minutes than you’d expect, still some late blocks upside.
Serge Ibaka, OKC PF, C 53 77 0.6 17.0 9.3 1.2 0.5 3.0 1.5 34 Iblocka! Plus he should take another baby step forward in FG%, Pts, treys… There’s really nothing not to like.
Shaun Livingston, GSW DOWN PG, SG 47 82 0.0 7.5 2.6 3.1 0.8 0.3 1.2 20 The toe surgery continues to linger, and I’m getting increasingly worried for the vet.
Spencer Hawes, LAC PF, C 47 77 1.4 11.5 7.4 2.3 0.4 1.0 1.7 28 A revelation last year, should still get must-own minutes as Clips’ 6th man.
Stephen Curry, GSW PG, SG 47 90 3.5 24.0 4.1 8.7 1.7 0.2 3.6 38 Steady as she blows, big threes and big dimes, with a vault in the latter in 13-14. Kerr as the new coach shouldn’t change anything and Curry still has ThrAGNOF king Klay Thompson to camp for treys.
Steven Adams, OKC C 54 62 0.0 7.0 7.1 0.8 0.7 1.0 1.3 24 All the upside in the world for his career, not going to score much, but board, steals and blocks upside.
Taj Gibson, CHI PF, C 49 73 0.0 14.0 7.2 1.2 0.5 1.5 1.8 30 Durable, and even as a 6th man should get to 30 minutes especially behind brittle bigs. Underrated blocker.
Terrence Jones, HOU UP SF, PF 52 63 0.6 14.0 7.6 1.3 0.9 1.4 1.1 30 There’s no reason he should be ranked lower even though he’s miles lower for other rankers. Moving him up due to sheer upside compared to the field around here.
Terrence Ross, TOR SG, SF 43 81 2.3 13.0 3.4 1.2 1.0 0.4 1.4 30 Young with upside like the ridiculous 51-pointer, but still raw and lacks in most cats right now. Worth the lottery pick at this point.
Thaddeus Young, MIN UP SF, PF 46 71 0.9 16.5 6.0 2.1 1.7 0.5 2.0 34 Succumbing a little bit to the consensus and to comments, I think I had him an iota too low. The steals are coming a little down, and I don’t think the perimeter game is going to carry over as much (K-Mart can only shoot 3s!), but solid here.
Tiago Splitter, SAS C 54 71 0.0 9.0 6.2 1.5 0.6 0.6 1.2 22 No upside, but hits all cats for a roster-filler in deep leagues.
Tim Duncan, SAS PF, C 48 74 0.0 14.0 8.9 2.5 0.5 1.5 1.8 28 Despite losing minutes and a racking up a couple DNPs, finished top-40 last year.
Tim Hardaway Jr., NYK SG 42 82 2.0 13.0 1.7 0.9 0.7 0.1 0.7 28 One of the many reasons you ThrAGNOF!
Timofey Mozgov, DEN C 53 75 0.0 8.5 6.2 0.7 0.3 1.2 1.5 20 McGee to reclaim some minutes, Mozgov is the boring one of the pair.
Tobias Harris, ORL SF, PF 48 80 0.8 17.0 7.2 1.4 1.0 0.6 1.4 30 Acquisition of Frye and selection of Gordon shows non-committal approach, still such a fantasy-friendly player that if he gets the run could surprise.
Tony Allen, MEM SG, SF 48 72 0.2 9.5 3.9 1.6 1.4 0.4 1.3 26 A late source of steals and that’s about it, a no-upside deep league play.
Tony Parker, SAS PG 49 81 0.4 16.0 2.3 5.8 0.6 0.1 2.2 30 DNPs, injuries, minutes restrictions, oh my! Wicked witch of the Alamo…
Tony Snell, CHI SG, SF 42 79 1.3 9.0 3.1 2.0 0.7 0.3 0.7 22 One of the select few that I’ll rank high without a decent minutes outlook. I like the talent too much.
Tony Wroten, PHI DOWN PG 43 66 0.7 13.5 3.4 3.2 1.1 0.2 2.8 26 Looking more and more like he’s coming off the bench, as I was hoping he got a starting 2 role. He’s a big guy who could handle that position, but an off-the-bench guy with horrible FT numbers… Eh…
Trevor Ariza, HOU SG, SF 45 77 1.9 13.0 6.1 2.4 1.6 0.3 1.7 34 Big breakout in 13-14 minimized with move to Houston, but 3s with low-TOs should yield another solid season.
Trey Burke, UTA PG 40 87 1.7 13.5 3.1 5.9 0.8 0.1 2.0 32 Anemic steals, horrible FG%, but is the last big minute PG on the board if you need some upside.
Ty Lawson, DEN PG 44 79 1.2 18.0 3.4 8.8 1.5 0.2 3.2 36 Chock full of dimebags like a true Denver dispensary!
Tyreke Evans, NOP DOWN SG, SF 45 77 0.5 17.0 4.8 4.4 1.3 0.4 2.6 30 While his post-ASB play was astounding, a lot had to do with Jrue Holiday being hurt. Lingering knee issues led to a hamstring strain that will keep him out of some preseason action – a starting role may be in doubt.
Tyson Chandler, DAL C 60 66 0.0 8.0 9.4 1.0 0.6 1.1 1.2 30 Return to Dallas will solidify a nice late Reb/Blk contribution.
Victor Oladipo, ORL PG, SG 44 79 1.2 17.5 4.7 4.8 1.8 0.6 3.2 34 I’m hoping to get RainbOladipo on all of my teams – Orlando has cleared out the annoying G vets and given him the keys. Lost 20 pounds and is ready for a big breakout.
Vince Carter, MEM SG, SF 41 82 1.7 11.0 3.3 2.4 0.7 0.4 1.3 24 Three year deal shows commitment, easily could start and play 30 minutes at the 3.
Wes Johnson, LAL UP SG, SF 42 78 1.1 8.5 4.1 1.4 0.9 0.8 1.0 26 Still a little bit of a minutes crunch, and he’s not going to touch the ball much on O, but his value is in Stls/Blks.
Wesley Matthews, POR SG, SF 44 83 2.4 16.0 3.4 2.4 1.1 0.2 1.4 34 Definition of a safe pick, has played in every game in 4 of his 5 seasons, microscopic TOs, a perfect compliment to a high volume TO PG who doesn’t make enough 3s.
Wilson Chandler, DEN SG, SF 43 76 1.6 12.5 4.6 1.7 0.7 0.6 1.2 28 Wasted a big opportunity last year, Gallinari to take a ton of minutes away.
Zach Randolph, MEM DOWN PF, C 47 75 0.0 16.0 9.4 2.3 0.7 0.3 2.1 32 Consistency! And Pts/Reb! And that’s it…  So he moves even further down…
  1. Padara says:
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    sups work guys!!

    one question: It seems the ranking is the same here as in the top200, meaning both of you share the same rankings? maybe a stupid question, but I thought we were not 100% on the same line for some ranks?

    thanks

    • A Hill O' Beans says:
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      @Padara: If I may, I believe its JBs rankings with Slims stat projections added in. For both the top 200 and this, which is basically a reformatted top 200. Its not actually Slims rankings, I think those are top secret.

      For JB/Slim/Rudy/Curtis:
      Much easier to use guys. Nice job! Its good to see the different arms of Razzball working together!

    • Slim

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      @Padara: Yeah, I don’t rank really. More like a range and it’s completely possible to have like 15 guys in the 80’s range. For a 12-team league I have a top 12, then I have options of who I want to pair with each, usually 3-4 options. Then I have options for the third player based of each pairing. It’s too much to write down and it changes drastically by league size. But yes, this is the same as the top 200. I may say “our ranks” but what their exact number is isn’t something I have anything to do with. Just like JB didn’t have any input on the projections which is why for some players the words don’t match the stats.

      • Pada says:
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        @Slim: I understand. Would you share some of your work regarding these pairing scenarios for Round2, and then possible best match for round3?
        this is great stuff… I need to do this analysis myself before my drafts… but it’s good to share insights if it’s not (too) secret stuff! 😉

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Pada: Yup as said above, sorry if that wasn’t clear! Just made this list for drafters to have sortable Slim projection stats. I’ll let Slim talk about his pairs but one that’s common and I like a ton is Ibaka Wall

      • CTMN says:
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        @Slim: Yeah I think JR Smith is a pretty good example, JB said he’ll lose some 3s this season but your projectionis 2.5/game for him. I think both opinions are totally possible. Good work by everyone!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @CTMN: Yeah with the Knicks down so much last year, I think it could go down, but in the triangle O, he still will have opportunities. Thanks Man!

  2. DanielL says:
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    Hey guys,

    i feel like your putting david west too low…he will be the number one option on the team. 74 seems a bit underrated, maybe its just me

    • JB Gilpin

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      @DanielL: While yes, #1 option and no question I see his points going up, but with added pressure Fg% and TO should go the wrong way and he doesn’t do enough Reb/Ast/Stl/Blk to get me more interested, even though he does chip in a little bit in both. Nothing is gonna come in good volume except points (well boards too, but not for a big is all)

  3. DK says:
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    Have you guys checked out the new Yahoo draft online and mobile? Seems better. Anyways what I don’t understand is the live draft always list players total season stats rather than avg stats. Almost all player rankings use avg stats too. Is there a reason why yahoo is using total stats? I don’t really know how to read it. Can someone help the best way to translate the total stats to avg stats so I don’t have to keep referring to my other ranking excel during live draft?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @DK: Yeah Yahoo has always done seasonal stats, not sure why. Other than taking the numbers and dividing by 82, which of course doesn’t factor in injuries and such, I’m not sure the best option maybe there’s something to tweak in the draft room but I’m not sure, I’ll look into doin a mock this weekend!

      • DK says:
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        @JB Gilpin: But for those playing roto, I guess full season stats would be beneficial?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @DK: Maybe, but it’s weird, I mean, for baseball I wouldn’t want hits over average you know? But I guess baseball’s stats are sorta bedrock…

  4. jhm says:
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    would you say that jabbari parker’s rank is not supported by slim’s projection? The projection seems pedestrian for the 4th round. It looks like a 5 to 6 round variance between the two to me which would price parker off my team.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @jhm: Yup! These are my ranks with his projections, a big difference is Slim has him for 30 minutes and I see him going for 34 a night. Slim and I chatted Parker on one of the earlier podcasts and he’s one of the few players we’re far apart on. It’s a gamble!

  5. dan-o1 says:
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    damn this is nice!. just type in a name aaaand presto…
    top job guys!!!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @dan-o1: Glad we helped, all the thanks to Slim Curtis and RUdy!

    • Slim

      Slim says:
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      @JB Gilpin: Dwight Howard too. Blocks.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Slim: Yeesh. Eh well, at least that seems to be it…

  6. Sam from Team: What Would Jrue Do? says:
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    #MINDBLOWN

    Razzball for the (my) Win!

  7. DK says:
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    JB, I followed your advice of at least 3 PGs for first 6 rounds. It seems I generally end up with PGs and Big Mens for the mid, and then the late ones are all my remaining SG and SF. As you mention assist PG dry up fast. Next in line is the Blocks + Rebounds. Beyond that the rest are generally 3pt specialists.

    I did another mock draft 4th draft in 14 teams and this is what I ended up with. Looking at my mock draft, it seems I am lacking in SG or 3ptsers. Pick 1-11 seems solid, but I am not quite sure about my pick 13-14.

    Simply I don’t quite like SG who generally only have 3pts, that includes even Beal, Korver and Anderson. However, that’s what killed me last season when I didn’t pick high volume 3pters and ended up killing my 3s even though I have picked up PGs does do 3s. I think if I picked up Curry, I should be golden. Since I picked up CP3, I need to get a high volume 3pter somewhere in mid.

    1. Chris Paul
    2. Al Horford (Millsap and everyone else was taken)
    3. Ty Lawson
    4. Nerlens Noel (I was thinking of grabbing Beal, but Noel solidifies my blocks)
    5. Jeff Teague
    6. Markieff Morris
    7. Brandon Jennings
    8. Tyson Chandler
    9. DeMarre Carroll (Wanted to grab Draymond after 9, but he was gone after this)
    10. Josh McRoberts
    11. Matt Barnes (Dray2 was gone sadly)
    12. Mirza Teletovic
    13. C.J. Miles

    • DK says:
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      @DK: I think I am getting the hang of it.

      Round 1, Pick 4 (4th Overall)
      Chris Paul LAC – PG
      Round 2, Pick 11 (25th Overall)
      Paul Millsap Atl – PF,C
      Round 3, Pick 4 (32nd Overall)
      Ty Lawson Den – PG
      Round 4, Pick 11 (53rd Overall)
      Bradley Beal Was – SG
      Round 5, Pick 4 (60th Overall)
      Derrick Favors Uta – PF,C
      Round 6, Pick 11 (81st Overall)
      George Hill Ind – PG,SG
      Round 7, Pick 4 (88th Overall)
      Markieff Morris Pho – PF,C
      Round 8, Pick 11 (109th Overall)
      Terrence Jones Hou – SF,PF
      Round 9, Pick 4 (116th Overall)
      Jeremy Lin LAL – PG,SG
      Round 10, Pick 11 (137th Overall)
      Draymond Green GS – SF
      Round 11, Pick 4 (144th Overall)
      Reggie Jackson OKC – PG,SG
      Round 12, Pick 11 (165th Overall)
      John Henson Mil – PF,C
      Round 13, Pick 4 (172nd Overall)
      Terrence Ross Tor – SG,SF

      • JB Gilpin

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        @DK: Yeah I like team 2 a little better. Getting CP and Lawson is a huge combo, so you could fill out your team a little better early on. Favors at 60 is unreal. Lin shouldn’t be going that late either and obviously like all your late picks. Lookin good! Balanced, but top end at virtually everything!

  8. Clyde Prompto says:
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    BREAKING NEWS: Dallas PG Raymond Felton slipped in a puddle of Red Eye Gravy and sprained his ankle. Adjust your top 10 accordingly.

      • Clyde Prompto says:
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        @DK: Nelson can’t come close to replacing Felton in my league because we use truffle shuffles as a category..

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Clyde Prompto: Hahahaha. What did the Raymond Felton say to the snack machine? “Baaaaaaaaaby Ruth!”

  9. Phranque says:
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    Hi guys,
    You really have become indispensable in setting up my “grand strategy” of drafting this season. I’ve changed leagues and the new league has ASST/TO for a CAT rather than just TOs. It seems that this newer CAT may be a better indicator of a PG’s value than just TOs. In comparing these CATs, do you guys have a view as to which is a “better” evaluator? And…how should I attack and prep for this newer CAT in my “grand strategy”….(we’re talking serious delusions of grandeur, to call it “grand”). Thanks.
    Phranque (pronounced Frank…as momma intended)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Phranque: Thanks so much man, what we’re aiming for! Sure TO is kinda an annoying stats, one thing I do like about it is it keeps the heavy streamers down a peg. I know a lot of people don’t like it since it’s hard to win 9-0, but I’m fine with it. While I like Ast:TO, that as a replacement stat (assuming Ast is a cat too), means PG are uber valuable. Still 9 cat league? Yeah you want PG early and heavy. CP would hop up to probably 4th for me behind Curry. Low TO guys will really help your bottom line too (Wesley Matthews for example. Oh, George Hill vaults up some.) Thanks for dropping by Frank, I mean Phranque!

  10. CatalinaWineMixer says:
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    Managed to get everyone on my team in the top 100, 12 team yahoo standard H2H, what do you think?

    Wake and Blake
    1. (7) Serge Ibaka (OKC – PF,C)
    2. (18) Blake Griffin (LAC – PF,C)
    3. (31) Andre Drummond (Det – PF,C)
    4. (42) Ricky Rubio (Min – PG)
    5. (55) Victor Oladipo (Orl – PG,SG)
    6. (66) Michael Carter-Williams (Phi – PG)
    7. (79) Darren Collison (Sac – PG)
    8. (90) Giannis Antetokounmpo (Mil – SG,SF)
    9. (103) Brandon Knight (Mil – PG,SG)
    10. (114) Markieff Morris (Pho – PF,C)
    11. (127) Terrence Jones (Hou – SF,PF)
    12. (138) Jodie Meeks (Det – SG)
    13. (151) John Henson (Mil – PF,C)

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @CatalinaWineMixer: Wow, going three straight bigs to end up with enough PG depth like that?! LOVE IT! TO & FT% might be issues, maybe a tad behind with 3s if you didn’t stream anyone (but no issues there from me, you’ll be able to cycle some 3s in and out), but other than that, very very strong team. MCW 66 shouldn’t happen.

      • CatalinaWineMixer says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks, it was hard for me to pass on Blake and then Drummond was there and I am from Detroit so a homer pick and got lucky with those PGs still there. Keep up the great writeups!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @CatalinaWineMixer: Keep up the awesome commenter name! 🙂

  11. Clyde Prompto says:
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    I’m not one to pick on those less fortunate, but I was perusing CBS’ fantasy basketball content and it was…interesting. In their expert mock for a standard H2H league, The Brow went 10th overall and Ibaka went 57th! I literally yelled at my computer and probably made my girlfriend question her life choices.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Clyde Prompto: Hahaha, such bad CBS life choices!

  12. DK says:
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    Bradley Beal most likely out 6-8 weeks with broken wrist.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @DK: YIKES! DK = the Razzball news breaker

  13. CTMN says:
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    Can you guys review my draft in comments/on a podcast?
    I already had a league for money with my friends but I got into a 2nd one with some other friends, just for fun. Since its just for fun i took some more risks but the team looks great.
    It was 10 team H2H, 8 cat – but fg% and ft% were replaced by fg made and ft made. I tried to adjust a bit to that. They also had 17 player roster, 2 PGs, 2 SGs, 2 SFs, 1 G, 1 F, 1 PF, 2 Cs, 2 utilities, 4 bench. I had the 4th pick.

    I’ll give you some explanations for my picks…

    1. Harden (4th overall) – i could have picked AD but i was kinda scared of the injuries and i figured Harden’s better for the FG made and FT made. Anyway, it helped me cuz i didn’t get much points later but i got enough blocks, i think.
    2. Lowry (17) – I wanted a PG and I felt there were more good big men than good PGs in the middle rounds, i think i was right.
    3. Drummond (24) – i would’ve picked Millsap or Horford but his trade value is much higher to guys in this league and there’s no FT% as i said.
    4. Vucevic (37) – he was actually my 2nd choice, i meant to take someone else (i forget who) but the computer froze, but still solid.
    5. Rubio (44) – love him with or without fg% but without it he’s better, although fg and ft made will struggle. But thats why I picked Harden.
    6. Favors (57) – Another guy i really wanted, helped my blocks a lot with no AD in the first round.
    7. MCW (64) – huge steal in a league with no TOs, FT% ir FG %, he would have been really good here anyway.
    8. Knight (77) – the scoring and 3s at this point was very useful, the assists could be decent as a SG for me.
    9. Markieff (84) – pretty ridiculous value, idk what else to say.
    10. T-Jones (97) – same idea as Markieff. Helped cover my blocks, alalthough i hate the Rockets and having 2 of them kinda pisses me off.
    11. Giannis (104) – the upside is interesting and the shaky preseason start doesn’t matter cause as i said, this league is just for fun. I would have taken him in my more serious league anyway at that point.
    12. JR Smith (117) – I didn’t really want him that much, but i think he’ll help for FG made, FT made, 3s and points.
    13. Elfrid (124) – the other guys just don’t know how good he is as a rookie, i didn’t need a PG until that point but with 17 guys i figured I’d get an extra.
    14. Reggie Jackson (137) – He should have gone earlier, i don’t think he’ll be out long with that wrist injury, and he’s good for assists as a SG for me.
    15. Draymond (144) – just gives me everything late.
    16. Henson (157) – upside, extra blocks, told you i didn’t need AD!
    17. KJ McDaniels (164) – upside and blocks/3s, solid that late IMO.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @CTMN: Cool, def will review on the POD! I’ll leave it to the airwaves 🙂

      • CTMN says:
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        @JB Gilpin: OK thanks! I sort of gave my own thoughts haha but I’d much rather hear yours.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @CTMN: Pod is up! Spoiler alert, we both liked it a ton

  14. Bambinos says:
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    I have the #2 pick. I’m leaning Brow, but should I really pass on KLBJ?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Bambinos: Def Brow! Although, who is KLBJ? Haha just messin’ 🙂

  15. Lasandro says:
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    Hey guys

    Thoughts on my team please (perhaps on the podcast even, which btw I absolutely love). 12 teamer, h2h, cats are blks (4), stls (3), o brds (3), assists (3), d brds (2), pts (1), 3s (1), pfs (-1), to (-2), 2nd pick:
    AD
    Ibaka
    Millsap
    Lawson
    MCW
    Favors
    Jennings
    Giannis
    Knight
    Stuckey

    First time playing h2h format. I understand that I’ll have to set my starting 5 every week, with no changing rosters during the week yes? So what’s the point of having AD, millsap and ibaka on my squad when I can only play two at a time (AD is C eligible of course)? My only designated SG and SF and stuckey and giannis respectively. Do I trade some of my nice bigs for a bigger name wing player? And it’s gonna be tough having to pick between lawson, BJ and MCW as they’re all solid in this league setting. Wished everyone just played roto haha. Cheers boys!

    Oh and does draymond fit this setting better than B knight or giannis? Would be happy to drop stuckey but need a SG on the roster

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      @jb Gilpin @slim: just dropped b knight and picked up r Jax. I’m happy with that, although I seriously wished Reggie was SG eligible so I could’ve dropped stuckey instead

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Lasandro: Def will do on the Pod, glad it’s coming out pretty good! Slim and I are feeling like it’s just us having a basketball conversation, it’s becoming pretty seamless.

      So it’s a weekly league? Usually H2H hoops is daily, plus you only start 5 a week? Def get Green! Would drop knight for him in that format. Oh just saw you got RJax, still would Green over Rjax.

      Yeah I’d trade Ibaka for a SG/SF. Ibaka should have some buzz too with KD out. We’ll review more on the Pod!

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        @JB Gilpin: thanks man, fantastic feedback. And can’t wait to hear your guys’ reviews on the podcast.

        Only reason I’m keeping r Jax is because I’m expecting him to be changed from a pg to a SG come start of season and I only have stuckey as my designated SG. Giannis is my only SF and if I did indeed pick up draymond, should I be dropping him to do so? Hell, giannis’ position may also change to SG, come start of season. I do like what I heard about iggy now looking to be the designated leader of the second unit

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Lasandro: Ah actually, yeah totally buying that. And Durant news keeps getting pessimistic rather than optimistic. Nah I’d hold for Giannis’ upside, I’d drop Stuckey for Green then, I know that makes RJax your only SG and is a little risky given RJax is hurt, but I’d roll the dice!

  16. JB Gilpin

    JB Gilpin says:
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    Getting to other comments in a second, BUT HOLY SHITBALLS! Durant… No!!!!! Possibly out 6-8 weeks

    • Slim

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      @JB Gilpin: Uhoh. Is Durant still #1 assuming he misses all of November? I don’t have an answer to that yet…

    • Clyde Prompto says:
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      @JB Gilpin: Maaaan that blows. Hopefully the fact that he weighs about 165 actually helps in this instance. Tall dudes + foot injuries = bad news.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @CTMN: @Slim: @Clyde Prompto: It’s official, I’m going BROW #1 NOW! KD still to 2. Curry 3. Although KD/Curry is close. If I have any pick past 1 and KD falls, I’ll be ecstatic to get him. But that’s with the news we have right now, could change.

    • CTMN says:
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      @JB Gilpin: what do i do now????

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @DK: @CTMN: For me, Brow, KD, Curry, LeBron top 4

    • DK says:
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      @JB Gilpin: Ballsy news indeed. Hahah my fantasy group is in uproar now. The top 3 drafters are confused!!!

  17. DK says:
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    I was looking at Hibbert. You are putting him at 115. Is he really that bad? I mean his 2011-2012 was not bad. Now with Stephenson gone and PG injured, wouldn’t he be much better than last season? Some are pegging him at around rank 80 or so. Or he’s simply to risky to be worth round 7 or 8? 115 puts him around round 9-10.

    • Slim

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      @DK: The risk is too high for me in the 80s. In the 9th/10th and assuming I really fubar’d blocks then I would look into him. He was just so bad last year and it’s tough to believe he improves as the entire team gets worse. It isn’t impossible though so I’m good with it that late. I like Larry Sanders a little better for 2+ blocks upside in the 8th/9th.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @DK: Yup I like Sanders more too, but I know I’m probably the low man on Hibbert. He was borderline unownable after the ASB last year. Not a guy I can rank highly.

      • DK says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Here’s to hoping both Sanders and Henson get play time. Those 2 have so much upside and we barely seen them in action.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @DK: Haha well at least Larry Drew isn’t the coach anymore!

  18. DK says:
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    Kevin Durant expected to be sidelined 6-8 weeks.

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      @DK: So what’s Durant’s outlook now? How does it affect his draft ranking?

      • Slim

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        @DK: I’m thinking about it. Brow maybe, Curry maybe but that would be it. I’d say 3rd overall at the absolute lowest for Durant unless the news gets worse.

        • DK says:
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          @Slim: My league is picking this coming Sunday and I am 4th pick. I have a feeling KD will drop to me as the first 3 guys will go AD, LBJ and maybe Curry. I am nervous… no KD for 2 months or maybe more.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @DK: Well, 6-8 weeks and season is still about 3 weeks away. Of course, that’s the news now, things can change. Right now KD is only down to 2 for me, would love getting him 4.

            • DK says:
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              @JB Gilpin: Oh right, I forgot we are still 2-3 weeks away. So if all is good, we are looking at missing Nov at most. On the safe side, most likely in time for Christmas games.

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                @DK: Oh easily, if the news holds up

        • CTMN says:
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          @Slim: The ONE year i had the #1 pick man…they’re saying it amounts to about 20 games.

    • Matty says:
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      @DK:

      Prediction: Russ leads the league in MPG, PPG, FG att., usage rate, and TOs through Thanksgiving. Volume, volume, volume for Westbrook. I’m mildly concerned his shooting arm is going to fall off…

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Matty: I buy all that, in my rankings update I’m definitely cautioning FG% and TO concerns if you get Westbrook first round!

  19. Smush9 says:
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    Guys! KD is out 6-8 weeks. who you got to take his spot? Lamb? Morrow? Or is Westbrook just gona go out and try gettin 50 every night?

    • Slim

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      @Smush9: I’d say Reggie Jackson at the 2 and Roberson at the 3. I’m not sure I’m buying him, Lamb, or Morrow. I expect a hot hand approach. Reggie is locked in now though since they will be desperate for his scoring. He can be drafted with absolute certainty.

      • Smush9 says:
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        @Slim: Copy that! Thanks, Slim. I’ll go and try to pry Jackson from my friend now. Haha.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Smush9: Yup, agree 100% with Slim. RJax to move up maybe 10ish spots for me in the ranks.

    • Matty says:
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      @Smush9:

      Any movement in your ranks for Ibaka or Adams? Competent frontcourt players aren’t exactly plentiful in OKC, so it wouldn’t surprise me to see Serge flirt with 20 PPG for the first few weeks while Adams could also see extended run.

      The fallout from this is going to be really interesting to watch. The only thing I know for sure is that playing Russ (at whatever salary they give him) will be worth it in DFS on opening night against Lillard and the Blazers. No KD & sub-par defense from the opposing PG vs. a high-scoring opponent? Yes, please.

      • Slim

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        @Matty: Since this doesn’t effect fantasy playoffs, or shouldn’t, then I’m not moving Ibaka or Westbrook. Adams has a chance to show a little more offense so he’s worth a last round pick or so. I’m going to start daily fantasy basketball this year. Should be something I do alright at.

        • Matty says:
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          @Slim:
          Glad to hear you’ll be venturing into the wonderful world of DFS basketball, Slim! It really is the cat’s pyjamas and an excellent supplement to the year-long variety.

          There’s good info to be found in the Grinders U section of RotoGrinders (apologies if mentioning their site here is a faux-pas!) as far as differing approaches for the types of games, bankroll management, etc. Much of it is common sense and you guys are well ahead of the curve here at Razzball as far as simple fantasy basketball IQ, matchup analysis, etc…but there are little nuggets in there that make you think, “huh, that’s definitely something to keep in mind…”

          Not nearly as many sharks swimming in the DFS basketball waters as there are for football and baseball, so I have no doubt you’ll be able to clean up real nice and buy yourself sumpin’ pretty with your winnings. 😉

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Matty: Good call on Westbrook for daily! Nah, I’m not moving Ibaka or Adams. Westbrook I’m flip flopping with Wall, they’re a coin flip for me, a month of having the rock in his hand all the time makes me go Westbrook now.

  20. MJ says:
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    Hey guys, loving the work as always, any comments you could make on the team i drafted? This was in a H2H with 16 players with 9 Cat including t/os. Any adjustments you might recommend. Def drafted Teletovic too high, but i do like his potential. Thanks!

    1. (5) James Harden (Hou – SG,SF)
    2. (28) Goran Dragic (Pho – PG,SG)
    3. (37) Paul Millsap (Atl – PF,C)
    4. (60) Zach Randolph (Mem – PF,C)
    5. (69) Michael Carter-Williams (Phi – PG)
    6. (92) John Henson (Mil – PF,C)
    7. (101) Reggie Jackson (OKC – PG,SG)
    8. (124) Mirza Teletovic (Bkn – SF,PF)
    9. (133) Markieff Morris (Pho – PF,C)
    10. (156) K.J. McDaniels (Phi – SF)
    11. (165) Boris Diaw (SA – PF,C)
    12. (188) D.J. Augustin (Det – PG)
    13. (197) Hollis Thompson (Phi – SF,PF)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @MJ: Thanks man! Whoa, Markieff fell to 133?!?!?! Really like this team, enough assists, good ratios. Randolph at 60 seems a little high. MCW fell way too late, keeps happening! A lot will ride on Henson too, since boards and blocks will be pretty low for ya if he doesn’t pan out. But I like him.

  21. CTMN says:
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    I’d like to hear Slim’s opinion on this because he seems to be the best at this type of stuff, but JB and anyone else’s take would be good:
    I’ve basically got 4 options with the #1 pick in a 12 team league h2h now…
    1) Take Davis, then build off him by taking a big and a PG at 24/25 (as opposed to maybe Millsap/Horford for the best available if I had taken KD). Thinking Millsap and Lawson.
    2) Trade my #1 and #169 (15th/last round pick) for his #2 and #119 (10th round). Could get a guy like Reggie Jackson or JR Smith at 119.
    3) Trade my #1, #48 (4th round end), and #96 (8th round end) for his #8, #17 (2nd round), and #56 (5th round).
    4) Just take KD, try to survive 3-5 weeks (12-20 games), and hope he doesn’t get re-injured or brought slowly along. Hope he comes through in the playoffs.

    I’m leaning towards 3 but I’m not sure…

    • CTMN says:
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      @CTMN: Oh yeah and I could just take LeBron and try to get higher trade value back, although it’s kind of a risk because I don’t really want LeBron this year.

    • Slim

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      @CTMN: Your going to hurt JB’s feelings…

      1) Probably the safest.

      2) I like this. If he takes Durant #1 then you add an extra 10th and still go plan 1. If he takes Davis then you choose between Durant and possibly Curry. I’d stick with Durant… or plan 4. So either way I would make this trade instead of plan 1 or 4.

      3) You would have… 8, 17, 24, 25, 49, 56, 72, 73, 97 vs 1, 24, 25, 48, 49, 72, 73, 96, 97. The loss of the 8th isn’t a big deal, the 5th vs the 4th is only 7 spots. Not a big deal. So #8 and #17 for #1. If Durant was 100% I would think about it harder but as is I would take this deal. Is it better than deal 2? Yeah I think so. Basically getting 3 2nd round picks and a 1st is going to be fun. I would try to get his 4th instead of his 5th but I’m greedy. If you had to give him my 7th instead of the 8th to get his 4th I would be fine with it.

      4) I don’t hate it.

      • CTMN says:
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        @Slim: I like JB’s responses too! I just saw that you were making pairings and guys not to pair (ie Blake and Love shouldn’t be paired, Ibaka and Millsap should, etc.) In other comments. You’re both great.

        So you think maybe my 1st, 48th, and 73rd for his 8th, 17th, and 41st?I’m not sure he’ll do it but I’ll try. I really hope I get it done, I still haven’t made anything final. Thanks a lot for the input!

        • DK says:
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          @CTMN: Can someone enlighten me on pairings? I assume Blake/Love and Ibaka/Millsap is due to positions issue or what? Having both same? Or what is it?

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            @DK: Pairings as in first and second rounders to pair. Generally you don’t wanna ruin a great Ft% guy like Harden with a guy like Dwight, but you might wanna take Dwight and just punt ft% if you started with LeBron or DeMarcus Cousins. If you start with a guy who doesn’t get blocks like Love, you might wanna look for a guy like Ibaka. You wanna stay away from 2 bigs who don’t get blocks. You wanna find guys that either fill each other’s weak areas or that just add to each other’s strengths without hurting anything else (like Dirk and Curry’s %s with great 3s). It doesn’t have to be different positions, it could be 2 bigs or 2 guards, but you wanna fill out as many stats as possible. That’s why Lillard doesn’t go as well with Curry as most guys, it’s too much overlap for your first 2 guys (points and 3s).

      • JB Gilpin

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        @CTMN: @Slim: Wahhhhhhhhh, I hate you guys!!!!! 🙁 Haha just messin.

        1. Yeah I like this a lot
        2. Well, this assumes 1 takes Brow then you would get Durant. I like being the hunter early on. KD owner will be the hunted. I dunno if that analogy makes sense…
        3. Agree, this one is closer. Still, my Brow obsession knows no bounds, I am very all in now.
        4. Nah, I’m going Brow and feel good about it.

        I think I’m going 1. Slim said it’s the safest and I think it’s the strongest.

        • CTMN says:
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          @JB Gilpin: The thing about #2 is, I’m pretty sure he wants LeBron. I think the people in my league think more about reality than fantasy so they don’t really realize that LeBron isn’t the best in fantasy anymore. I think I might be able to get Davis even if I have the 2nd pick. The other options are basically the big trade, which I really like – maybe I can look for Westbrook/Wall at 8 – and maybe taking LeBron just for the trade value. But the LeBron option is risky if he starts slow.

        • CTMN says:
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          @JB Gilpin: Oh yeah and I should mention it’s 8 cat…does that have any impact on taking AD since he’s the only low TO guy there? I feel like Westbrook could be amazing to get at 8 if it’s possible.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @CTMN: Whewwwww, yeah Westbrook definitely shoots up. Still think I’d have him behind LBJ and Harden though. Def would be great to get him 8 but that’s risky. And yeah, AD isn’t quite the beast in non-TO. I dunno man, there’s so much turmoil now! And when there’s turmoil, I like safety I think I’m still Brow-in it

            • CTMN says:
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              @JB Gilpin: Yeah it’s definitely close, I’d be happy to just take AD as the safest route but the trade really intrigues me…I’ll have to think some more. I’ll definitely check out your next rankings update, would love to hear your thoughts more in depth on it.

              • JB Gilpin

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                @CTMN: Cool, yeah as of now with KD unsure if he’s having surgery or what’s going on is scary. Hopefully there’s a little bit more news tonight before I go balls deep back into the ranks!

  22. Michael says:
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    Hi JB

    Can you give me some advice on my draft. I am doing 13 cat rot with 3 players for keepers

    PG: mike conley, ty lawson, jose calderon, marcus smart
    SG-SF-PG: demar derozan, lance stephenson, danilio gallinari, giannis antekounmpo, gerald green, terence jones,
    PF-C: Andre Drummonds, Nerlens Noel, Larry Sanders, Anderson Varejao, Gorgui Dieng

    Should I dump Gerald Green for maybe Evan Turner? what do you think? How about Marcus Smart, I figured he will get PT and also he will be running the show for at least the future of Boston.

    Thanks,

    Michael

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Michael: Oh haha, I guess I shouldn’t have started from the bottom 🙂 Got ya below

  23. KD Owner says:
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    F**K!!!!

    i have KD do i try to trade for AD? or Curry +1?

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @KD Owner: Yup to both! Moving Brow to 1 in next rankings update, hoping to be done Tuesday morning. Curry is close already, so if he comes with a nice sweetener I’d do that too. F*** indeed!

      • KD Owner says:
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        @JB Gilpin: if you don’t mind my asking on what basis?

        KD is out 3-5 weeks regular season which is manageable. I have a solid team and will definitely be fine.. is re-injury really that high of a concern? playoff sched it’s KD’s 4-4-3 to AD’s 4-3-3.

        I got offered AD, problem is: the guy that has AD has a legit team too, i would say he’s the strongest competitor

        please advise

      • KD Owner says:
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        @JB Gilpin: current trade offers:

        1) AD

        2) Griffin, Bosh, Marc Gasol

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        @JB Gilpin: and i don’t have any other SF other than draymond green.. with milsap and horford as my centers… i can survive until durant gets back but want to know your opinion on re-injury.. don’t mind waiting as long as he is still durant when he’s back.

        14 team h2h 9 cat; playoffs week 21, 22, 23

        1) durant
        2) milsap
        3) horford
        4) MCW
        5) oladipo
        6) brandon knight
        7) monroe
        8) frye
        9) draymond green
        10) meeks
        11) henson
        12) brandon wright
        13) marcus smart

        AD team:

        AD
        Drummond
        Derozan
        Beal
        Teague
        Wade
        Valanciunas
        alphabet
        chalmers
        and scrubs

        curry team:

        curry
        batum
        dwight howard
        gordon hayward
        wesley mathews
        gortat
        harris
        boozer
        jeff green
        dunleavy
        other scrubs

        I don’t want to make the wrong move…

        • JB Gilpin

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          @KD Owner: Well I am going to do a lot of digging tonight before putting out re-ranks tomorrow morning and talking on the Pod. I think it’s less about reinjury and more about just what the timetable is. Another commenter said he saw 10 weeks.

          Looking at your team, I’d absolutely take AD. 2nd offer isn’t for all 3 guys though, is it? If you got all 3 of those guys I might have to do that one, that’s some unreal depth and value for a 14 teamer.

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            @JB Gilpin: yeah for all three, he withdrew but i’ll have a chat with him. it’s a daily league, if that makes a difference…

            got another offer CP3 and brook lopez for Durant.

            yeah i’ve been digging a bit, the injury location seems to be common in NBA, but recovery times vary greatly. some guards had it and recovered quickly. some re-injured. Brook Lopez had it and now he’s injury prone but since KD is lighter and doesn’t bang in the paint too much apparently he’s less risk.. although any comparison with Brook Lopez is pretty scary…

            CP3’s team got Ibaka as well.. i might do durant + 1 for ibaka and CP3?

            Thanks for the help man really do appreciate it

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            @JB Gilpin: got another offer aldridge/wall & conley.

            a lot of people are high on durant in my league… i can potentially pounce on some offers..

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              @KD Owner: Whew, yeah that all 3 trade I’d def do. Too much value to get.

              CP3 + Brook… Nah, I mean, so much injury concern for Brook… Still have KD 2 for H2H given what he’s gonna do for playoffs. Haha, any comparison to Brook Lopez is scary indeed!

              Durant+1 for CP and Ibaka would be awesome. Totally down with that with almost any +1, I’d try not Millsap or Horford, Durant +MCW? Gets rid of almost all your injury risk! +Knight? Would be fantastic, but duno if he’d do it.

              Man, so getting Wall and Conley… (I’d go Wall over LA). What about countering for Wall and Aldridge. I would try to get that one, would make your team unreal.

              Hope this helps!

  24. YOUNGHUSBAND says:
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    14 Teams, H2H, 9 cat. Thoughts on the team?

    1. Serge Ibaka (OKC – PF,C)
    2. Kawhi Leonard (SA – SG,SF)
    3. Paul Millsap (Atl – PF,C)
    4. Monta Ellis (Dal – PG,SG)
    5. Victor Oladipo (Orl – PG,SG)
    6. Michael Carter-Williams (Phi – PG)
    7. Markieff Morris (Pho – PF,C)
    8. Terrence Jones (Hou – SF,PF)
    9. Isaiah Thomas (Pho – PG)
    10. Gorgui Dieng (Min – C)
    11. JaVale McGee (Den – C)
    12. Jameer Nelson (Dal – PG)
    13. K.J. McDaniels (Phi – SF)

    PG: MCW, IT2, Nelson
    SG: Monta Ellis (PG), Oladipo (PG)
    SF: Kawhi (SG), TJones (PF), McDaniels
    PF: Ibaka (C), Millsap (C), Kieff Morris (C),
    C: Mcgee, Dieng

    • DK says:
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      @YOUNGHUSBAND: I would think you need more assists and treys. You are loaded on C, maybe trade them for PG. mcdaniels could probably be swapped for a 3pt specialist if your blocks are doing fine esp if McGee does show up.

      • YOUNGHUSBAND says:
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        @DK:

        I’m thinking about trading Ellis for Conley. Hoping someone bites the dust. Dont think Nelson gets 5ast per game?

        • DK says:
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          @YOUNGHUSBAND: Might be a tough one, but if you get it great! Well Felton is out. Word is Nelson seems the sneaky one but it’s just a mess with 3 PG.

    • CTMN says:
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      @YOUNGHUSBAND: Your points might struggle going Ibaka-Kawhi first 2 rounds. Other than that, really stacked team! Just need a bit more assists and 3s like DK said. Oladipo and Ellis are pretty good assists at SG though. Your steals are probably by far the best,I’m sure you could get a solid PG for Ellis or Oladipo. Conley is solid, maybe try for Jrue or Ty Lawson? Both are high assist guys but had injuries last season.

      • YOUNGHUSBAND says:
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        @CTMN:

        I may live and die with Oladipo. Really wanna let go of MCW as the FG drag is sucky. Hoping IT2 gets 14pts, 1.53pts, 4ast. thats a steal at round 9 dont you think? lol.

        I may trade MCW as I’m punting points but need to win FG% and TO%. Will try to float some trades though. I may try MCW for Jrue. Never liked him though. Lol!

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          @YOUNGHUSBAND: Yeah I doubt I’ll end up with IT myself but he could definitely get those #s, and that would be a solid pick that late. MCW for Jrue would be great for you to avoid the FG% killer and add assists. Also it’s easy to convince guys to take MCW if you don’t like the % or injury risks, just point out his triple doubles and counting stats! Just gotta try different things.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @YOUNGHUSBAND: Got ya on the top 200 post 🙂

  25. DanielL says:
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    Hey, i see you guys are big on Bucks plater, giannis parker and knight… do you really expect all of them to play that good/ be worth the rank you give them. Or its more like one of them will be hit and its worth picking them up?

    • DK says:
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      @DanielL: Parker is that high because he’s solid, more predictable and guaranteed minutes. Here’s to hoping we will see the minutes for the Greek freak. I am not quite sold on him.

    • CTMN says:
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      @DanielL: I like Henson for blocks upside, I think he’ll be solid. Giannis is a bit risky, he’s been off the bench, he might not score a ton but he does really everything else. Knight I really like, even more than these guys. He’s great for 3s and points and could be useful for assists if you count him as a SG. I’m not sure about Jabari’s role this year but he could definitely be great in the second half.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @DanielL: Yeah I think they will be good, and all co-exist. Both Sanders and Henson are good in smaller minutes, and Knight/Giannis/Parker I expect to have consistent roles.

  26. Michael says:
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    Hey JB,

    Don’t know why my comment was not on here? i want to ask what you think of my team. 13 cat roto with 3 keepers

    PG: ty lawson, mike conley, jose calderon, marcus smart
    SG-SF-PF: demar derozan, lance stephenson, danilo gallinari, giannis antekounmpo, gerald green, terence jones
    PF-C: andre drummond, nerlens noel, larry sanders, anderson varejo, gorgui dieng

    I am looking at long term with these players. I wanted to see if I should dump smart or keep him cuz I think he might get PT and he will most likely be the man running in Boston in the future, but based on your analysis he’s not that good, but i do think i have enough guards to warrant the gamble. Also, I was wondering if I should drop Gerald Green for someone else (maybe Evan Turner?)

    Thanks,

    Michael

    • CTMN says:
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      @Michael: Well Drummomd, Noel, and DeRozan or Lawson look like great potential keepers already. That team is really good all around, the only thing it might need a bit more is steals, but that’s easy to find. Everything looks good.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Michael: What you mean your comment wasn’t on here? Maybe it was pending, spam filter sometimes blocks repeat posters too for some reason… If it wasn’t on, the bots would be goin nuts! You should see some of their messages. “Your blog is written well like the best. Learn how make money online no work.”

      First, naw I’d hold Green, but don’t really like either. To Smart, I think he’ll be a better real life player than fantasy. A PG that doesn’t hit threes or assist too well is a rough asset. I def would shop right now, his value won’t be higher for a long while.

      Love your bigs, lots of upside, but I might try to move one. Think you have a little too much blocks. Early hot starts from Sanders or Dieng and I’d move one of them (maybe with Smart in a package) for another PG or wing.

      Thanks for droppin by!

      • YOUNGHUSBAND says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        I agree with JB. Though I’d try and move Derozan cause its counter productive as Drummond FT will drag him down. Might try and trade for lets say Harward/Young as they fit better to the overall team?

        Just my 2 cents.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @YOUNGHUSBAND: @Michael: Yeah with it being roto though, DeRozan should keep him from getting the bottom in FT%, roto is tough for me to get more than one bad FT guys, luckily Drummond and Noel shouldn’t be too big volume. Sanders and Dieng are going to weigh it down too, so yeah moving one of them for a good FT shooter will def help

  27. Sam says:
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    hey guys, great work on the site, dont know what I’d do without it haha.
    just wondering if you could give me some feedback on my team, i get #1 pick in 10man H2H 8cat league

    1. Curry ….. damn KD
    2. Lowry
    3.Drummond
    4. Vucevic
    5.Holiday
    6. Noel
    7. Lee
    8. Knight
    9. Calderon
    10. Sullinger
    11. Sanders
    12. KJ McD
    13. Nelson

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Sam: Thanks so much man! Well, at least you didn’t get stuck with KD! He and Curry are really close for me at this point. I woulda gone Anthony Davis 1 though, but with no TO it’s very close. Love you got great PG depth and good bigs. Looking at how it played out, think you def did right to start with Curry. FT might be a tad rough at times, but I think you have everything else covered really well

  28. Matty says:
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    Yikes. Reading now that the Jones fracture in KD’s foot is likely to sideline him 10 weeks post-surgery:

    Weeks 1-2 are no weight bearing.
    Weeks 3-4 are in a boot.
    Week 5 is pool therapy.
    Weeks 6-7 are modified running.
    Weeks 8-9 are explosive running.
    Week 10 return…assuming no setbacks during progressive recovery.

    Looking like it’ll be closer to Christmas than Thanksgiving for KD’s return. That’s a big ol’ chunk of the fantasy season.

    Any thoughts out there on a minute restriction for KD when he returns? Wouldn’t surprise me to see Brooks keep him to ~30MPG from his return date to the All-Star break. Still makes him a stud for the latter part of the season and the fantasy playoffs, assuming full recovery.

    For 8-cat roto purposes (my format of choice), my top-5 now read:
    1. Brow
    2. Curry
    3. Harden
    4. LBJ
    5. Westbrook

    Durant falls back into the Love, Cousins, Ibaka late-1st round grouping…just haven’t figured out exactly where yet.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Matty: Oh sheesh. Yeah I’m going to look into it a lot tonight as I put together re-ranks for tomorrow. If it’s that long, then yeah he’s falling way down. I will comment that Westbrook was supposed to be out way longer. Thunder might be lying a little 🙂

      Hard to dispute that list, Paul vs. Westbrook is very close. Just because the premium on assists. But assumedly, Westbrook will get a ton running the team… So many things to change in a rankings update!

      • CTMN says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Well Brook Lopez, Yao Ming and Roddy Beaubois had reccurring issues with this injury so they missed more time…I also know Chris Singelton and Damian Lillard (in college) missed a bit more than 2 months with this injury. Not looking great.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @CTMN: Not at all looking good!

  29. Sio says:
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    Based on what your guys are saying (KD is still 4th or 5th at most)… do you think i should shoot an offer over to the KD owner? Maybe like curry straight up? He league us h2h-1 win and i’m already punting fg% blks and TO’s. I’m thinking i’ll pretty much lose 3-4 weeks but can make it up easier coz it’s 1 win a week instead of the standard getting-beaten-up-7-to-2. Not even sure the KD owner will go for it but if news is clearer the next few days maybe chance and get some KD for the playoffs?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Sio: Lemme get back to that tomorrow after I go through some re-ranks 🙂

      • Sio says:
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        @JB Gilpin: cool! Thanks jb!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Sio: Whew, H2H 1-win?! I’m guessing it’s like that for the playoffs too? yeah, KD is still 2, and kept him 2 in the reranks. Curry vs. KD is very very close. 2 vs. 3 for me. But as I have it, yeah I’d do it!

  30. DK says:
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    If going balanced, and Noel comes to me, is it true I just have to deal with his poor FT affecting my entire team? I know some sites actually pushes to ignore FG, FT and TO because they are too inconsistent for H2H.

    What’s your view on it? I tried mock drafts, my general stats are good except quite low ranking for FG, FT and TO, especiall if I draft players like Curry. How do I approach this if a player gives me stats I need ex: blocks, but kills my FT in return? Ex: DeAndre Jordan, Noel, etc.

    • YOUNGHUSBAND says:
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      @DK: You try and get Ibaka/Bosh/Vucevic/Robin Lopez/BroLo guys who don’t hurt the % but can block

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @DK: Yup, agree with @YOUNGHUSBAND: if you get one of the terrible FT shooters, you can mask it pretty easily. It’s when the punting teams get 2 or 3 (or Dwight by himself) that it starts getting troublesome. I’m fine getting Noel high. DeAndre scares me because I think his minutes go way down, and Drummond could have the same issue if he has horrible FT shooting days, especially late in close games.

        • DK says:
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          @JB Gilpin: Bosh is hard because my 4th pick I usually end up w Millsap, Harford or Bosh. I usually tend to skip Bosh. Then the rest are out of reach except RoLo, which I really have to prioritize or he’s gone. I’m really not touching Brook, too risky for my taste.

          I guess I just have to balance the poor FTs with good FT from my other players. What’s your take on stats like FG FT and TO?

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:
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            @DK: In H2H, FG and TO are very variable and I’m an active owner as best I can be. So I don’t mind playing extra minutes to lose TO. Even with a good FG shooting team, it’s an easy stat to lose week-to-week. FT is usually a little less volatile so I avoid most of the bad FT guys. Except like Henson late, or I love Noel.

            • YOUNGHUSBAND says:
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              @JB Gilpin: Noel shot the ball well in summer league FT I think.

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                JB Gilpin says:
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                @YOUNGHUSBAND: Yup 17-21 in summer, which is awesome. But 55-104 in college (53%). Both are very small samples, but 60-65% sounds about right. Not team killing, but def not good.

  31. Spencer says:
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    Hey, do you project FG%/FT% using FGM/FTM and FGA/FTA?

    I have a league that uses these cats, so if a projection for these values could be posted it would be a big help.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Spencer: I’ don’t think so, but I’ll ask Slim, he did all the projections work. He’s better with numbers than me 🙂

      • Spencer says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks. I have been able to find made and attempts on BB-Ref per 36min and there are other sites that list projected minutes, so I could take the time input it all.

        But if someone has it laying around and is will to share, it would be much appreciated!

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Spencer: Razzball Nation commenters have done some awesome help work (like helping get these all in order). so if someone has em easily available, hit us up!

  32. Dorian says:
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    I’d like to thank you guys for the rankings. Still got one pick left to go in our offline draft, but I think I’ve got a pretty swell team overall. 8 Cat (no TOs), 3 Keepers, 16 Teams daily league.

    Guard – Kemba Walker (Keeper)
    Guard – Michael Carter-Williams (Keeper)
    Forward – Markieff Morris (Round 7)
    Forward – John Henson (Round 8)
    Center – Andre Drummond (Keeper)
    Utility – Victor Oladipo (Round 4)
    Bench – Jeff Teague (Round 5)
    Bench – Elfrid Payton (Round 6)
    Bench – Steven Adams (Round 9)

    I think that’s a pretty swell team. Free throws suck, but meh. I’ll take it. Still got one last bench slot to fill, but thanks to you guys, I feel utterly confident in my team for once. Think I’ll probably draft a forward, if possible, so that I’ve got 5 guards, 4 forwards, and 4 centers for combinations. Think I’ll try landing Draymond Green, K.J. McDaniels or Bojan Bogdanovic since they either have starter jobs or great minutes with my final pick.

    Again, thanks for your rankings! Both here and in baseball.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Dorian: No problem, thanks to you for stopping by! Of those guys left, def get Draymond Green! Huge on him this year. Wow, backcourt of Oladipo and Payton and you don’t have to worry about their TO! Haha love it

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Yeah, I’m hoping I land Draymond. The list I mentioned is in the likelihood of who I’ll take next if available. I would’ve taken him where I took Steven Adams, but getting a center near the end of the draft who can get assists was just like “you must~” for me. And yeah, I know, that will likely be watch costs me him. But Invistash was just calling to me.

        And yeah, I’m loving my backcourters. The depth there is staggering and especially with no turnovers. Wish I could keep more than 3 (ideally 5) so I could keep Kemba, CDub, Drummond, Oladipo and Payton. But alas, I’ll just need to figure something out.

        Just hoping Invistash and Henson get starting jobs. If they do, I am so deep at positions, I’m laughing to the playoffs. Maybe.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Dorian: Hah, yeah no prob with it, I woulda gone Green, but Green is falling soooooo so far 🙂

          Damn, yeah convince the commish to extend keepers! Haha. Henson at least can be productive in a 25 minute bench role. Invistash? I haven’t heard that one!

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            @JB Gilpin:
            If my draft is any indication, yeah he is falling. I mean, I’m surprised he’s still available. I actually thought he was taking when someone drafted Green, but that was Gerald Green. Heh. Whoopsie.

            I’m calling Steven Adams Invistash, for his invisible mustache. It only appeared once and that was on media day, but then went back to being invisible. I went with sh instead che to make it look cooler. Yes, I am a nerd. Thanks for asking! 🙂

            Considering the league hasn’t change rules except one, since I started it (I’m just a regular peon now), extending keepers won’t happen. Besides, everyone seems to love the Madness Round – a lottery round that takes before all the draft picks. Which keepers are tied to as to earn a Madness ticket, you need to give up a keeper.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Dorian: Haha love it! Invistash! Yup, wrong Green taken! Might have to use Invistash as Adams’ nickname. Sounds like a Madness league indeed! 🙂

  33. whodoikeep says:
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    we can keep 3. $15 is the minimum someone can be kept;

    batum ($15)
    Griffin ($40)
    Lebron ($105)
    Thompson ($30)
    Millsap ($15)
    Cousins ($40)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @whodoikeep: Def Millsap #1. I’m not touching LeBron at that price (guessing standard $200 budget). Then going Batum and Cousins. And then loading up on guards in the draft.

  34. Mike says:
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    Hey JB,

    So it’s my first year doing fantasy bball. I’ve joined a 12 team keeper and I can pick between one of these two teams. I’m leaning towards Team A because of your Dragic and Gasol Rankings. However, you may see some good value in Team B. Can you let me know which team to pick and then also let me know which players I should keep. Please help me out! (Their prices are beside each guy).

    TEAM A

    D Rose-51
    Marc Gasol-37
    Thaddeus young-33
    Rudy Gay-29
    Dragic-22
    D West-22
    Byron Mullens-20
    Oladipo-17
    Redick-14
    Ryan Andersen 13
    Evan Fournier-13
    Nate Wolters-8
    Kris Humphries-8
    Patrick Patterson-8
    Hinrich-8
    Barea-8

    TEAM B

    D Wade-37
    Tony Parker-27
    Brook Lopez-24
    Tim Duncan-25
    Deng-14
    Pierce-13
    T Ross-12
    Michael Carter-Williams-11
    John Henson-9
    Isaiah Thomas-9
    Schumpert-9
    Patrick Beverly-9
    Larry Sanders-9
    Ben Mclemore-8
    Jordan Hill-8
    Antetokounmpo-8
    Middleton-8

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Mike: Welcome to hoops! Glad you’re givin it a go.

      So you can keep… However many you want under budget?

      While I like Dragic, the depth of team 2 is so much better, at least for keeper prices. Marc Gasol at $37 for team 1 in a keeper… Eh, I dunno. Past that I love Oladipo then a lot of meh.

      Team B, whoa, gimme a maybe on Duncan, maybe on Deng, but MCW/Henson/IT2/Sanders/Hill/Antek core at under $60 bucks, yeah I’d go B 🙂

      • Mike says:
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        Thanks JB!

        Ya, I can keep anyone up to $180 budget and whoever isn’t kept by other teams goes back into the pool for our draft this coming Sunday.

        I really appreciate your help…and starting off with 6 guys helps for sure. Let me know if you think I should keep Duncan and Deng as well or just use the remaining $ to spend on a couple top guys.

        Thanks,

        Mike

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Mike: Cool, gotcha, glad I got that right. Yeah gimme both to keep! So you have 8 guys kept and still over $80 to spend. Duncan might seem a little high, but in dynasty/keepers where there is no limit, guys who aren’t kept that are decent at all go for premiums. I think having more than $80 is plenty to fill out that squad. Any time man!

  35. the pillar & the stones says:
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    Keep CP for 44/100?
    10 team 9 cat

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      JB Gilpin says:
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      @the pillar & the stones: So $44 out of your $100? You only get one keeper? If that’s the only guy to keep, yeah I probably would just to get centered, but that’s a big value.

  36. cooler83 says:
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    Giannis over Markieff AND Terrence Jones?? You’re taking fanboy-dom to a whole different level!!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @cooler83: Well, they’re all different players too, given there’s some similarities, but I could go different ways at that point, they’re all close. And Kieff and Jones are ranked lower in a ton of places!

  37. decaf says:
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    Razzball!
    I’ve been finally catching up since last week about the upcoming season. I would like some comments about this mock draft (10-team, 9-cat H2H):

    (7)- James Harden SG
    (14)- Al Jefferson C
    (27)- Mike Conley PG
    (34)- Al Horford C
    (47)- Derrick Favors PF
    (54)- Chandler Parsons SF
    (67)- Wesley Matthews SG
    (74)- Jose Calderon PG
    (87)- Terrence Jones PF
    (94)- Kyle Korver SG
    (107)- Reggie Jackson PG
    (114)- Patrick Beverley PG
    (127)- Andrew Bogut C

    I like my 1st 4 picks, but not sure about the rest of the draft. Did I get Favors too high? I thought Matthews and Korver were value picks, but then maybe my 3PT is now overkill. Calderon wasn’t the best value pick, but I needed a 2nd PG. Terrence Jones is already rated that high in ESPN, so not sure if he’s still a sleeper at this point. Jackson, Beverley, and Bogut were category picks since I felt I needed to catch up on AST, STL, REB, and BLK. Thoughts?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @decaf: Whoa, love Harden 7. Noice! Nope, Favors you did awesome on, have him 39 right now I believe. Horford 34 is unreal value. Matthews I like a lot, but yeah I woulda skipped Korver. I had Jones in the 80s before a lot of sites main rankings came out, and he was way in the 100s in tons of places! They’re stealing our content… And yup love the last picks. Assists are a little behind, think you’re good in steals, actually really really like this team. Got a ton of guys way after my rank of them, nice work!

      • decaf says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah, I know what you mean, him and Markieff are now in the 80s which are making them harder to get as value picks! I agree with you on the Korver pick, but at this point in the draft good AST are sooo hard to get so I may have panicked and just got a good available player. Thanks for the feedback, man, keep up the great work! 🙂

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @decaf: Everyone stealing our stuff! Yeah, I was highest on fantasypros on both Jones/Kieff, but not anymore! Ugh! Thanks man, hope to see ya a lot this year!

  38. Allen says:
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    What’s Good Razzball,

    I just drafted yesterday and would some insight on my team. I am playing in a 12 man 9 Cat H2H league. I was attempting to punt blocks and steals.

    1.Carmelo Anthony
    2.Chris Bosh
    3.Marc Gasol
    4.Ty Lawson
    5.Wesley Matthews
    6.Jose Calderon
    7.Joe Johnson
    8.Markieff Morris
    9.Channing Frye
    10.Trey Burke
    11.Terrence Ross
    12.Jammer Nelson
    13.Henry Sims

    I definitely feel like I overdid it with the 3 pointers and assist, so I am considering dropping Nelson or Ross for either Henson or Teletovic. Any suggestions to improve this team, Razzball ?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Allen: Whew, yeah definitely going to destroy points an treys! I dunno about assists though – Lawson + Calderon, and I like Nelson… Burke could still do a little, but I don’t know if that’s enough. I dunno who was available, but I think Joe Johnson could’ve been a PG or big man and been a big help. Yes get Henson! Would drop Ross.

      I’d look at teams that lose 3s the first two weeks, and unload someone since yeah you’re overloaded there. Maybe JJ or Frye or Matthews if any start really hot. Thanks for stoppin by!

  39. AD needs help says:
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    First time question that will be a little long-winded. I am in 14 team 9 cat league (we use adjusted FG% instead of FG% and FTA instead of FT%). We have just kept our 6 keepers per team and are about to head to auction to fill out our squads. We have $100 to spend. Just to give you an idea of the spread in the league here is a list of keepers and $$$ committed:
    Team 1 R Stuckey R Rubio J Teague K Martin A Horford N Pekovic $32
    Team 2 R Westbrook K Walker J Holiday JR Smith A Jefferson S Adams $87
    Team 3 V Oladipo L Stephenson N Batum P Millsap J Noah D Howard $57
    Team 4 J Wall T Lawson K Faried S Ibaka D Favors N Vucevic $87
    Team 5 J Calderon S Curry T Jones G Antenkounmpou J Valanciunas A Davis $51
    Team 6 C Paul B Knight D Collison K Durant D Lee J Sullinger $93
    Team 7 D Lillard K Thompson C Parsons L Aldridge D Cousins A Drummond $76
    Team 8 R Jackson A Afflalo T Young L James R Hibbert R Lopez $69
    Team 9 B Beal D Rose K Bryant R Gay D Gallinari D Jordan $55
    Team 10 D DeRozan M Conley K Lowry K Irving D Nowitzki D West $86
    Team 11 J Harden W Matthews G Hill K Leonard C Anthony L Sanders $60
    Team 12 E Bledsoe T Ariza A Johnson E Turner J McGee JJ Hickson $7
    Team 13 M Carter-Williams G Dragic C Bosh M Gortat $42
    Team 14 T Burke Z Randolph B Griffin T Thompson N Noel A Bogut $31

    I am Team 4 and the best owners over the past two years have been Team 3 (although he had Paul George previously) and Team 11. I feel like I am in a strong position going into the auction especially considering Curry is a beast with AFG% instead of FG%. This is the last year with our current keepers before we reset and start from scratch again next year so I need to win it all this year.

    Who should I target and how important is playoff schedule, eg Brook Lopez and Deron have great play off schedule compared with some of other best players available however obviously much bigger injury risks? I’m confident I will be a contender in play offs so thinking schedule should be important consideration for me.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @AD needs help: As much wind as you’d like!

      Whew, keeper just ends like that?! I get too attached in keepers I wouldn’t like that 🙂 But at least it keeps everyone fresh. So you’re team 4 you said, but then mention Curry, being sure I get that right that you’re 4… What a group of keepers! Other than Faried, who is still great, I have everyone top 40! I have Brook higher, but I would target Deron first.

      Slim is working on his yearly playoff scheduling post he works a ton on which will help who to porject for, but yeah Deron + high volume wings to fill out and you’re gonna be solid!

      • AD needs help says:
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        @JB Gilpin: @JB Gilpin: whoops I’m team 5 … $100 total to spend on 10 players 4 G 4 F 2 C … but team 4 is a contender too I think

        • JB Gilpin

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          @AD needs help: Ah gotcha, yeah wasn’t sure. Team 4 is deeper, but you’re def front loaded AND have more money! Sorry I missed the $100 part…

          Definitely going for Deron with this team as well. Cavs with a bad playoff schedule, Magic with a good one, might go for Elfrid.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Zar: Up to 10! Cmon Razzball nation!

  40. mr. claus says:
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    Hi guys…

    Hopefully you can point out any weakness im not seeing in my current team as i think its pretty solid, barring any injuries of course. 12 team h2h 9 cats.
    5th pick in the draft. couldve gone with harden but i figured stls and asts are harder to come by later in the draft. any thoughts?

    1 Chris Paul
    2 Al Jefferson
    3 Paul Millsap
    4 Al Horford
    5 Jrue Holiday
    6 Derrick Favors
    7 Jose Calderon
    8 Terrence Jones
    9 Jeremy Lin
    10Draymond Green
    11Patrick Beverley
    12Rodney Stuckey
    13Henry Sims

    • JB Gilpin

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      @mr. claus: Whew, good thing you didn’t get Durant! Haha. I had Paul ahead of Harden early on, but have switched to Harden. In any case, it’s neck and neck. The difference to me, while yes Assists dry up fast this year, is Harden still gives you a ton out of position, and is an elite FT contributor given his high volume. That said, you have all good FT shooters, so don’t mind it.

      Yeah, this team is nasty. Holiday with great value, Calderon gives you plenty of Ast/PG depth, and really good bigs. A little light on blocks. About the only weakness I see, maybe a shade low in treys to start the year, but you can stream those. Very very marginally. Def don’t need to make any moves, should easily be a playoff team!

      • mr. claus says:
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        @JB Gilpin: @JB Gilpin:

        Always appreciate the comments JB… yeah.. i figured 3s and blocks were the weaknesses… but in my league, people were overpaying for those stats (especially 3s with Klay Thompson drafted in 3rd round!!).. Hopefully i could still be competitive blks and beat other owners who completely forgot to draft any blks specialists like me… haha..

        Anyways… Great Job with the site as always!!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @mr. claus: Ewwwww Klay in 3rd round?! Horrible. Thanks so much man, good luck this year!

  41. JoeMorgan'sMustache says:
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    JB, I know you love some Lawson…I love his game too. But, does this ankle issue drop him down some? Couldn’t run until July…2 preseason games in and he already has issues. He has had some ankle problems almost every year since his college days…but this one to me seems worrisome. Really hard to think this won’t linger all year and cause some DNP’s and inconsistent play. Btw, I can’t keep Durant in my 16 team h2h keeper now…$84 too much for what is most likely 10 weeks or so…still trying to recover….ugh. Stings even more since I traded for him this off-season and gave up the Greek kid in the deal.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @JoeMorgan’sMustache: We just talked about it on the Pod which will be up in about 20 minutes, the fact he’s playing still in preseason has me not worried too much. I said “No injury is still better than any injury” but not lowering him any given the need of PGs.

      Oh, f-in A man! Forgot about your Durant trade, brutal… Since your team was solid, no issue giving him back, but that value still seems about right… I dunno it’s really close…

      • JoeMorgan'sMustache says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Yeah man…just don’t have a good feeling with Lawson. Also I think the 6-8 weeks with KD is a bit optimistic. Jones Fractures typically take longer, can have issues with healing properly due to poor blood flow, and we have no IR..can’t keep him imo. I made another trade and will now have these 5….Al Jeff $49, Conley $34, Bosh $32, Bledsoe $9, and Parsons $7. 16 teams $200 budget. I don’t hate that core at all and like having the steady Conley with the riskier Bledsoe…still bummed about KD but I can def build around these 5. Will check out the podcast later on after work…thanks man!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @JoeMorgan’sMustache: Whew, still a really nasty start for 16 teamer! All top 50 guys for me for sure. Any time man, good to see ya!

  42. Craig says:
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    Great rankings. I have a question about my 14 team 9 cat h2h dynasty league. I have Otto Porter and Marvin Williams as my 2 top SF for more depth should I drop Middleton and pick up Teletovic, CJ Miles, or Bogdanovic? Thanks. Keep up the great work and great podcast too.

    • Slim

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      @Craig: I would hold onto Middleton in a dynasty. Those other 3 are a dime a dozen to me. If you felt you needed production now and couldn’t wait on Middleton then I would go with CJ Miles.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Craig: Whew, toughie. All 4 seem about the same, well throwing out Miles since he’s a little older. I’d probably keep Middleton too since he’s shown upside in more categories, even though it’s tough to project him for a big role this year. The Brooklyn guys should outscore/out-3 K-Midd, but past that won’t be doing much else. Thanks so much for listening, about to hop on a new pod now!

  43. Scott says:
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    We are into our 3rd day of the most important player (by far) getting hurt and still no article?? You must be working off a small budget here at Razzball B-ball. Razzball baseball would have had an article same day.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Scott: I’m really sorry our 100% free site isn’t good enough for you. We work with NO budget. Everyone on hoops has full time jobs. This is pure passion we put all our free time in, and frankly, I’m pretty irked by that kind of comment.

      Rankings are now updated, and commentary is riddled through the comments re: Durant. Rankings updates take hours of work. In the season there will be daily updates. Article will be out tomorrow, talking Durant then preseason action from the past week. But feel free to use other sites for your hoops info, if you are dissatisfied.

      • Sio says:
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        @JB Gilpin: gotta say we love razzball hoops! No fees or dues not even those ads all over the place which we wouldn’t mind at all given the content… just some really good fantasy basketball advice! Thanks razzball!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Tim: @CTMN: @DK: @Sio: You guys all make this the site it is! And all the time we put in more than worth it. You can def hate on any ranks and calls, but but you can’t hate on our interaction and effort!

      • DK says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I am new to razzball. Then I looked at the comments. You 2 reply to all the comments. I tried asking, and you replied too, even it is very noob questions. I was like this is probably one the best community. Very active and all of us participate in the discussions. My favorite fantasy ball site! Awesome! I refresh your site like every other hour now. Hahaha!

      • Richo says:
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        @JB Gilpin: *change font to Sarcastica

      • Dan Maton says:
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        @JB Gilpin: @Scott: your one job is to post fantasy news, updates, etc. I agree with Scott, there is no reason that you and whatever other mopes you got working with you should have not reported on the KD injury for that long. lol coming at him on your blog was clear signs that you were rattled, im embarrassed that this many people on here agree with you. get a real job and go sell some insurance or cut hair or something. if you dont wanna be on top of current news, especially when it deals with your top ranked player, then leave this job to someone else. im sure hundreds if not thousands of people use this site for their rankings. what if one of them had a draft yesterday while you were “too busy to update your article”. alot of them probably drafted KD because of your shenanigans. #peace #fantasybaseballsbetter #siofi

      • Kapri bibbs says:
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        @JB Gilpin:
        JB how rattled are you by a fan that you not only mention him in your podcast but that’s the first topic you talk about. “Scott” was right I was awaiting on the Durant injury news as well. You do work hard but don’t rip a fan for calling you out. Thin skin JB very thin skin. Your favorite reptile must be a rattlesnake cuz you my sir are rattled by “Scott”. Good day and GO BULLS!!!!!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Kapri bibbs: I wasn’t rattled, just having a good time. If I was really rattled I could delete his comment and not let yours come in. Never done daily recap articles through preseason – think work on ranks are more important – and answered questions and gave thoughts as mentioned above. Clever joke too.

      • RattleBall says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Do you know why you’re “irked” by Scott’s comment, JB??????

        Surely you must understand why…

        It’s because you’re rat… rat….. rattledddddddddd

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          JB Gilpin says:
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          @RattleBall: Hahahaha that just made my night, fuckin hilarious 🙂 Maybe we should change the site to Rattleball!

    • Slim

      Slim says:
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      @Scott:

      So I’ve had this recurring dream recently. In my dream it’s like 8am, I’m nursing on my coffee, answering a few comments before work, and I get a call from JB. He says, “So I need you to not go into work today, I need you instead to write an article. Oh and how much were you going to make today? I need to charge it to the razzball account so you can get paid.” Then I wake up… and go to work…

    • CTMN says:
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      @Scott: Man they give you free, very insightful and thoughtful work and they don’t get paid and you’re complaining? They also answer EVERY question in the comments. That’s just ridiculous to complain about.

    • Tim says:
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      @Scott: Wait, who got injured? I didn’t hear about that on every sports source, radio, print, Twitter, ESPN, my uncle Marty, everywhere. I don’t read razzball to find out who the top ten players are. I read to see some unpaid basketball enthusiasts offer statistical breakdowns, in season daily breakdown, and what streamer is gonna win me the week with a 4 steal weekend. I am a relative noob to fantasy, but have had great success in large part to including razzball as part of my research. I hope JB, Slim, Pete, everybody in basketball (and yes even the guys in football football and baseball) know how much they are appreciated. If you want to show them, you can buy them drink.

    • Wombat says:
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      @Scott you ungrateful bastard!

      • dan-o1 says:
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        @Wombat: lmao….nuff said!.

    • AC says:
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      @Scott: Come on now, Scott. In my opinion, these guys are the best in the business, and have given me (and many others) excellent, insightful, and timely responses to any and all legitimate or inane comments/questions I’ve had over the last two years, all for the price of …well…nothing. And no annoying ads or calls for donations. Hard to beat that!

      I check this site almost every morning during the season and follow your advice religiously. And until I heard your podcast today I had not idea you both had full-time jobs on top of this. Keep up the good work guys!

    • DanielL says:
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      @Scott: they put info/updates every weekday, considering its a part time hobby they do more than a good job.. go pay for rotoworld to get your
      hour by hour 7 days a week updates, if thats what you like spending your day doing.

    • Clyde Prompto says:
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      @Scott: “You’ve been alive for three whole days and you still can’t catch a fastball? What the hell’s the matter with you!? STOP F***ING CRYING!”

      -Scott to his newborn son

      • Clyde Prompto says:
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        @Clyde Prompto: *Scott walks out of a crowded movie theater, happy and humming with excitement. He turns to a fellow theatergoer:

        SCOTT: Man, Guardians of the Galaxy was awesome! I can’t wait to come watch the sequel next weekend!

        STRANGER: What? Naw man, the sequel won’t be out for years.

        SCOTT:(screams angrily skyward) YOU MUST HAVE A PRETTY SMALL BUDGET, MARVEL STUDIOS!!

        • Richo says:
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          @Clyde Prompto:
          These two comments. A+

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Clyde Prompto: Hahahaha thanks man, awesome sauce.

    • Richo says:
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      @Scott: Hahaha, I had to pause the podcast to come and read this. I love how everyone has already flamed him.
      He has got a point though, you guys should quit your jobs and live in a dimly lit room with no less than 4 screens playing looped replays of Giannis highlights for my personal gain.

      Keep up the great work guys. The way you interact via comments is absolutely unrivaled.
      http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-hate-scott.png

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Richo: Dude I wish! You never know, Razz keeps growing like this maybe it can be a full time job! HILARIOUS graphic 🙂 Well done

    • Boom Shakalaka says:
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      @Scott:

      So whats your new log in name Scott? I see you lurking in the shadows itching to comment!

      By now I hope you realize what people have been telling you your whole life. Like one of your many “maybe you coulda got laid by that girl but then I opened my mouth and spoke moments”… Dont speak

      • kings crossing says:
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        @Boom Shakalaka: wow. Lol one of the worst jokes ive ever heard. You just went on a “fantasy” basketball site and tried to come at someone about getting laid. I bet you were wishing he’d reply to these messages but he probably has something Better to do with his time. Very embarrassed at you bro. Did you go from 6 to midnight when the blog dude liked your comment? Lol just wow

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @kings crossing: That wasn’t really a joke… And you’re commenting on a fantasy site too, so kinda hurting yourself as well, slamming that this on a fantasy site 🙂 But thanks for checking out this “blog dude”!

    • Slim

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      @Scott: That was fun. I thank each and everyone of you for your responses. I’m even glad a couple people backed him up. I don’t have any issue with his point on Durant but I felt compelled to look up a definition.

      Troll – make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.

      So for that reason I do agree with Scott’s backers, momma always said not to feed to the Trolls.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Slim: Yeah man, it was fun, and a one and done that’s for sure! Had no idea we had a wide enough audience to even illicit that kind of response, so thanks to all the listeners for checking us out!

  44. DK says:
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    Jodie Meeks to miss 2 months due to back. Too bad, I was going to target him.

    • DK says:
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      @DK: nvm, I actually have him in my public league. Dropped him for KCP!

      • JB Gilpin

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        @DK: Awesome! hahaha we just recorded the Podcast and missed the news, last I saw it was only back spasms… good thing we are doing another tomorrow! KCP FTW!

  45. Sio says:
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    Wellll JB’s going to be ecstatic… KCP looks like he’ll get all the minutes he wants with meeks out for the next few months… what’s the word guys? Just exchange their rankings?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Sio: WOOOOOOO, I’m partying like the end of the Return of the Jedi!!!!!!!! I’m dropping Meeks completely out. No way you could draft him even in 16 teamers with that kind of timetable. KCP is still 100ish, so yeah, about takes Meeks spot, maybe a little lower.

  46. JJ says:
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    In a 10 team, H2H, here’s my squad. Any thoughts?

    CP3
    Gordon Hayward
    Tyreke Evans
    Paul Millsap
    DeMarcus Cousins
    Goran Dragic
    David West
    Marc Gasol
    Jimmy Butler
    Jordan Hill
    George Hill
    Jared Sullinger
    Brandon Knight

    • JB Gilpin

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      @JJ: Nice! I was gonna say a little light in dimes, but having CP3 and Dragic/Hill/KNight/a tad from Evans should be good. A little light on blocks, but the fact you got Cuz who I just moved to 10 WITH CP3 is a huge start. Think you’re fine everywhere but blocks, don’t think you need to make any moves yet, but I’d maybe trade for an underperforming blocker at some point in the year. Thanks fro droppin by!

  47. CA says:
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    I have the voice between 2 keeper league teams and I get to keep 2 players from the team I choose would like your thoughts on team and keeper. 12 team 10 cat head to head league.

    Team 1 with the first pick in the draft too is: Trevor Ariza, Chris Bosh, Kobe, Tyson Chandler, Danny Green, Chris Kaman, Andre Kirileno, Steve Nash, Derrick Rose, Ricky Rubio, Amare Stoudamire, David West, Nick Young and Thaddeus Young.

    Team 2 with the 7th pick in the draft is: Bradley Beal, Corey Brewer, Tyreke Evans, Derrick Favors, Channing Frye, Marc Gasol, Tobias Harris, Al Jefferson, Jeremy Lin, Kendall Marshall, Khris Middleton, Tony Parker, Jarred Sullinger and Jeff Teague.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @CA: Gotcha, between Bosh, Rose, Kobe, Rubio for me for Team 1. Yuck.

      Team 2 we got Favors, Gasol, Jefferson… Looks to be about it. It’s better, but you get a lower pick…

      I’m kinda torn, I hope it’s not for too much money if at all! I think I’ll go Team 1, keep Bosh and Rubio, and hope that first pick is good value. Thanks for stopping by!

      • CA says:
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        @JB Gilpin: there’s a guy in the league that has curry, harden, and Westbrook and can only keep 2 so I def think there is value in the first pick considering 24 players will be gone

        • JB Gilpin

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          @CA: Whoa, that def makes it easier! Team 1 and all the sudden you have …Westbrook probably, then Bosh, Rubio, I could see a lot of teams starting with the core in redrafts.

  48. DK says:
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    Damn! There goes our plan to draft 100+ ranked players. Yahoo just updated their ranks. Now their adp is what they expected. No chance to steal anymore. Markieff is now 74. Jones slightly below that. KD dropped to 15.

    • DK says:
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      @DK: yes JB, now your ranks ain’t crazy for sure. Now Yahoo is looking a lot closer to your rankings.

    • CTMN says:
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      @DK: yeah I really don’t like this. The only guy that I can really get is Brandon Knight, why he’s at 122 I’m not sure.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @DK: They stole our work! haha

        @CTMN: Knight is way too low, how about It2 99 too! They really lowered PG

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