Several have asked.  The path; fraught with peril.  The excruciating man hours; soul breaking.  But we got it together!  And well, I didn’t do that much work to be honest…  Everyone that uses the Official Razzball Top 200 on draft day with these sortable stats by Slim’s projections, be sure to thank Curtis and Rudy!  And Slim did the heavy lifting using his maths!  Curtis helped put together the stats, then Rudy with his wizardry made this look spiffy and easily sortable.  We’re such a community!  Need some steals late?  BOOM!  Mario Chalmers and Corey Brewer are still on the board.  If you have any questions let us know, and be sure if this helped you at all, thank Curtis and Rudy in the comments, and of course Slim for his hard work using his abacus!

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# PLAYER POS FG% FT% 3P PTS RBS AST STL BLK TO MIN NOTES
Al Horford, ATL PF, C 54 72 0.0 18.0 8.9 3.0 1.0 1.3 2.2 34 Was having a career season until the pec injury. Same argument as Millsap – another perimeter threat will help Horford down low.
Al Jefferson, CHA PF, C 49 73 0.0 20.0 10.0 2.0 1.0 1.0 1.7 34 Had an unreal run in the second half of 13-14, going 25.2/11.4/2.3/1/1 from Jan. 14 to the end of the year. Plantar fascia seems to be a non-issue.
Alec Burks, UTA DOWN PG, SG 46 76 0.8 16.5 3.8 3.0 1.1 0.3 2.1 32 I’ve just completely soured on Jazz Gs. I think the scoring will be nice, but I think I botched the original #100 ranking. Not big on treys, pretty bad TO, and might lose PT to groom Exum late in the year…
Alex Len, PHO UP C 51 66 0.0 5.5 5.1 0.6 0.2 0.8 1.2 18 With no one else behind Miles Plumlee, who really fell off last year, the former #5 pick could be a really interesting off-the-radar surprise. I still just have a gut feeling on this one.
Amir Johnson, TOR PF, C 56 68 0.3 12.0 7.6 1.6 0.9 1.4 1.4 30 Lingering ankle issue and Raptors PF depth scare me.
Anderson Varejao, CLE PF, C 50 67 0.0 8.0 9.2 2.0 1.0 0.6 1.1 26 Big rebounds and not too much else in a sub-30 MPG role, does sneak in a steal a game for you from a big.
Andre Drummond, DET UP PF, C 60 44 0.0 14.5 12.9 0.5 1.4 1.7 1.5 34 A lot of people are still reaching, but while I’m not getting him close to top 20, I needed to move him up a smidge. Probably not ending up on a lot of my teams, but if he’s there in my third round when I had the 6th or 7th pick, definitely taking him.
Andre Iguodala, GSW SG, SF 46 66 0.9 10.0 4.4 3.9 1.3 0.3 1.5 30 I think he’s going to lead the second unit, losing the starting job to Draymond, then still has to fend off Barnes for minutes.
Andrea Bargnani, NYK PF, C 43 82 0.8 13.0 4.6 0.9 0.4 0.8 1.4 28 13.7/5.3/1.1/0.3/1.3 with 0.7 treys and only 1.3 TOs in 23 starts last year, and a good fit for the Triangle offense. There’s upside there, even if it’s hard to believe…
Andrew Bogut, GSW C 57 45 0.0 7.5 9.5 1.6 0.6 1.6 1.4 26 Always ends up ranked higher than you’d expect, but always ends up as hurt as you’d expect…
Andrew Wiggins, MIN SF 44 77 0.9 13.5 4.7 1.2 1.2 0.9 2.4 30 Uncertain role that seems likely to begin off the bench, upside of the second half keeps him a mid-round reach.
Anthony Davis, NOP PF, C 51 78 0.4 23.5 9.8 1.8 1.5 3.0 1.9 38 Very legit chance of going 20/10 with a rainbow line. Well, we can dream and he could be really close. As close as his brows!
Arron Afflalo, DEN SG, SF 46 82 1.7 16.5 3.4 3.3 0.6 0.2 1.9 34 Never been a fan, but the Nuggets needed a more consistent wing last year and he’ll be playing with the best PG he’s ever been paired with.
Avery Bradley, BOS PG, SG 44 79 1.6 15.5 3.7 1.6 1.1 0.1 1.8 32 Brings you some scoring and out-of-position boards, but not too much upside.
Blake Griffin, LAC PF, C 53 72 0.0 24.0 9.4 4.0 1.2 0.6 2.7 36 A breakout last year, I think he replicates his 13-14. But why in the name of Mutumbo can this guy not block more shots?!
Boris Diaw, SAS PF, C 51 72 0.5 8.5 4.1 2.8 0.6 0.4 1.5 24 Late source of out-of-position assists, giving you 2.8 a game last year from a center.
Bradley Beal, WAS SG 42 80 1.9 18.0 3.8 3.5 1.0 0.2 1.8 36 Fairly empty stat line with a bad FG%, he’s a better real-life asset. Others will reach.
Brandan Wright, DAL PF, C 60 70 0.0 10.5 4.9 0.7 0.7 1.1 0.8 22 Not too much depth behind Dirk and Tyson, and both are way up there in age giving Wright a shot at more than expected minutes.
Brandon Jennings, DET PG 39 78 1.8 15.0 2.9 7.4 1.3 0.1 2.6 32 Horrific last year, and Stan Van emphasizing rotations and defense isn’t going to help. But still upside; he’s a talented player.
Brandon Knight, MIL PG, SG 43 79 1.6 19.0 3.6 5.1 1.0 0.2 2.7 34 Numbers were stellar once he was fully back from the early hammy issues, playmakers like Parker and Giannis along with Kidd at the helm give him further breakout upside.
Brook Lopez, BKN C 51 79 0.0 18.0 6.0 1.0 0.5 1.6 1.7 30 Was 12th overall in per-game value in a short 13-14 sample, injury-risk still a big concern, but upside is tremendous.
C.J. McCollum, POR PG, SG 44 81 1.6 13.5 3.6 2.7 1.2 0.2 1.9 26 Really if he was anywhere else he could be a major sleeper, still should see productive minutes as main backup G.
C.J. Miles, IND SG, SF 42 81 1.5 12.5 2.7 1.9 1.0 0.3 1.2 28 Deep source of treys and steals, especially if he wins the starting 3 role over Solomon Hill.
Carlos Boozer, LAL PF, C 48 73 0.0 14.0 8.5 1.7 0.7 0.3 2.1 28 Even though he only scores and boards, starting minutes should be there.
Carmelo Anthony, NYK SF, PF 46 83 2.2 27.0 6.8 3.5 1.0 0.5 2.6 38 I don’t expect the career highs in boards and blocks to carry over to 14-15, but will be the same elite scorer for Phil J’s triangle.
Chandler Parsons, DAL SF, PF 47 75 1.7 15.5 5.6 3.9 1.2 0.4 1.8 36 Immediately makes me a Mavs fan, but still in a high-powered offense and won’t vault too much in value. I’m hoping his ADP is a round lower.
Channing Frye, ORL DOWN PF, C 43 81 2.0 11.0 5.6 1.2 0.7 0.8 1.0 30 Out-of-position ThrAGNOF is great and all, especially since no one on ORL can hit treys, but I had him a little too high to be happy to get him.
Chris Andersen, MIA UP PF, C 56 68 0.0 7.0 6.6 0.2 0.5 1.7 0.9 22 The late availability of blocks with a pretty low-risk investment is worth a rank here, especially for deeper-leaguers needing da swats.
Chris Bosh, MIA UP PF, C 50 82 0.7 18.0 7.4 2.2 0.9 1.0 1.9 34 No LeBron, time to own! I’m still not reaching too too hard, but moving him up a few spots.
Chris Paul, LAC DOWN PG 46 86 1.2 18.0 4.1 10.6 2.3 0.1 2.2 36 Just flip-flopping the two, Paul’s category-killing dimes are awesome, but Harden brings slightly more to the table. Including his facial hair.
Corey Brewer, MIN SG, SF 45 71 0.6 11.5 2.6 1.6 1.7 0.4 1.3 30 Elite steals guy, knows his game and should start again. I think he’s a great athlete and can surprise with nice boards as well with Love gone.
Cory Joseph, SAS PG 46 82 0.4 8.5 2.7 2.9 1.0 0.3 1.1 20 A sleeper pick due to lack of roster depth, Patty Mills is coming off rotator cuff surgery and Tony Parker is always hurt. Could leave Joseph with a lot more minutes than people expect.
D.J. Augustin, DET UP PG 42 88 1.3 10.5 1.7 3.9 0.7 0.1 1.6 24 There’s been nothing but encouragement for D.J., and nothing optimistic about Jennings. A full split could happen quickly, if not a full changing of the guard. No pun intended!
Damian Lillard, POR PG 43 87 2.8 22.0 3.5 6.5 1.0 0.2 2.4 36 Opening the run on PGs, Lillard gives you elite 3s/FT%/consistency. Should be third straight season of solid-ness.
Danilo Gallinari, DEN SF 41 80 1.6 13.5 4.7 2.2 0.8 0.4 1.4 28 Will be a forgotten name in many draft rooms, still offers a pretty good fantasy line if he’s healthy.
Danny Green, SAS SG, SF 44 80 2.1 10.0 3.3 1.6 0.9 0.8 1.2 26 Took off after the ASB, shooting 6% better and upping treys from 1.5 to 2.6. Pop will make him frustrating, but will end up a value.
Dante Exum, UTA DOWN PG 40 72 0.6 8.5 2.4 2.9 0.8 0.1 1.7 24 Knew he would fall mightily after publishing the ranks the first time through, just too raw for the NBA to trust for anything right now. Second half chance for minutes keeps him top 200.
Darren Collison, SAC PG 46 84 1.3 14.0 2.8 5.9 1.4 0.2 2.1 34 McCallum looms, but they gave Colly starting money and he’ll have the keys. Should facilitate well with low TOs.
David Lee, GSW PF, C 51 78 0.0 17.0 8.9 2.4 0.7 0.3 2.1 30 Boring Pts/Reb guy, solid %s and high-floor keep him top-60.
David West, IND PF 48 79 0.0 15.5 7.2 2.8 0.8 0.8 1.9 30 Somebody has to score for the Pacers, and West was so underrated last year with a 46th overall finish. Should be an easy value target in the mids.
DeAndre Jordan, LAC C 65 44 0.0 9.5 11.7 0.8 0.9 2.1 1.3 32 Played 3 minutes less a game post-ASB, and getting benched late is a worry for me. No way he plays 35 per in 14-15. I think we see more hack-a-Dre.
DeMar DeRozan, TOR DOWN SG, SF 43 82 0.5 23.0 4.1 3.9 0.9 0.3 2.1 36 As I mentioned before, for as high-volume a scorer he is, TOs very manageable. Solid FT shooter, assists have consistently gone up for his career, he can plug a lot of holes for roster comp early in the mid-rounds.
DeMarcus Cousins, SAC PF, C 49 74 0.0 24.0 12.0 3.0 1.6 1.3 3.5 34 Finally put it all together last year, and should once again set a career mark in scoring with IT2 replaced by Collison.
DeMarre Carroll, ATL SF, PF 47 77 1.3 11.0 5.6 1.8 1.4 0.3 1.1 32 Was a much better player after Horford injury so I won’t reach for value he gave in 13-14.
Deron Williams, BKN PG 44 81 1.4 15.0 2.6 6.6 1.1 0.2 2.5 32 Minutes will be down again and injuries always seem to derail him, but still has some upside. Worth the gamble on his ankles at this point.
Derrick Favors, UTA PF, C 51 69 0.0 16.0 9.6 1.4 1.1 1.8 2.0 34 So, so underrated. Shot 52.2% from the field last year, and with a terrible supporting cast, was creating his own post opportunities. Played only 30 MPG last year, will get expanded if he can cut down the fouls and boost the board and blocks.
Derrick Rose, CHI PG 42 82 1.6 18.0 3.2 6.3 0.8 0.4 3.4 32 I’m likely passing on D-Rose in all leagues, I think he’s lost too much with the knee injuries and I don’t like the risk.
Dion Waiters, CLE SG 43 72 1.5 13.5 2.6 2.8 0.9 0.2 1.9 28 Super-duper ThrAGNOF with lower offensive volume with LeBron in town. Should find himself a lot of wide open treys though…
Dirk Nowitzki, DAL PF, C 48 88 1.4 21.0 6.2 2.6 0.9 0.6 1.5 34 The age is the question, but I don’t see much of a fall off. That said, boards are trending down.
Donatas Motiejunas, HOU SF, PF 44 62 0.5 8.0 4.9 0.8 0.5 0.4 1.2 20 Even though he’s not listed as a C on Yahoo, is the only C behind Dwight and could be a sneaky value for out-of-position treys.
Doug McDermott, CHI SF 43 86 1.6 9.5 3.2 1.3 0.2 0.1 1.4 20 Told he’ll need to jack up treys and could start at the 3. Not going to do much besides 3s/Pts though…
Draymond Green, GSW SF 43 74 0.9 10.0 6.2 2.7 1.7 0.9 1.4 28 #OccupyDraymondGreen! A monster last year in a low-minutes role, has a shot to start the 3 with Iggy off the bench. Multi-cat upside all over the place!
Dwight Howard, HOU PF, C 58 55 0.0 18.0 11.9 1.6 0.9 2.9 2.9 34 FT shooting kills him in 9-cat, would be near elite in non-FT/non-TO leagues. Ultimate league settings-variable pick.
Dwyane Wade, MIA PG, SG 50 74 0.3 20.0 4.5 4.8 1.4 0.5 2.9 32 DNPs, injuries, minutes restrictions, oh my! Wicked witch of having bad knees…
Elfird Payton, ORL UP PG 48 65 0.5 11.0 5.7 6.9 1.6 0.4 3.2 32 Nothing’s changed with him being a horrible FT shooter for a PG and he’s going to turn the ball over way too much, but as I’ve found in drafts, PG dries up ridiculously fast. He’s the last option for assists upside.
Enes Kanter, UTA UP C 49 74 0.0 13.0 7.6 1.0 0.4 0.6 1.9 28 I maintain he’s terrible on defense and was much better against second units last year, but the move to PF with Favors to C fits his game so much better, and sheer volume of minutes will give him value.
Eric Bledsoe, PHX PG, SG 47 78 1.2 17.5 4.8 5.6 1.6 0.4 3.4 34 I expect to be one of the lowest rankers on E Bled, finished only 52nd in per-game last year.  While contract is hammered out, injury-risk still there, turned the ball over way too much in his first season as a full-time starter.
Eric Gordon, NOP SG 43 80 1.4 15.0 2.2 3.1 1.0 0.2 1.9 30 Yet another offseason knee surgery, played in 115/246 games the past three years. Not touching him.
Ersan Ilyasova, MIL SF, PF 43 82 0.5 11.5 6.1 1.1 0.7 0.2 1.0 24 Looked downright awful last year, but was top 50 in 12-13 and came into last year with a bum ankle. Won’t be me seeing if he can bounce back though…
Evan Turner, BOS SG, SF 42 76 0.3 7.5 3.1 2.2 0.4 0.1 1.3 20 In a minutes crunch on a crowded rotations-based team, but could do something useful.
George Hill, IND PG, SG 44 80 1.3 12.0 3.7 4.4 1.0 0.3 1.5 32 Again low-upside, but could get back to 12-13 numbers with Paul George being out.
Gerald Green, PHO SG, SF 44 83 1.8 12.0 2.4 0.8 0.6 0.2 1.4 22 I just don’t see the minutes, and pre-ranks of him top 100 are outrageous. Should hit some treys for you, but not a guy you’ll have on your roster all year.
Giannis Antetokounmpo, MIL UP SG, SF 46 74 1.0 13.5 6.2 2.4 1.0 1.0 2.2 32 1.7:1.7 AST:TO pre-ASB to 2.3:1.5 post showed huge improvement with the ball, going to get a starting role, offers upside in all 9 cats. A huge Razzball favorite, and moving him up a little further after missing him in RCL Draft #1 (went 73rd).
Goran Dragic, PHO PG, SG 48 77 1.4 18.0 3.1 6.2 1.4 0.3 2.7 34 One of my big crushes this year, the FG% from a PG is elite. I see dimes going up and an even better follow-up after his 13-14 breakout.
Gordon Hayward, UTA SG, SF 43 82 1.4 18.0 5.2 5.3 1.4 0.5 2.6 36 His shooting from the field has consistently gone down in more minutes, Exum/Burke are not going to help FG% and TOs. Some slumps are going to be tough to bear, but overall slash should be solid.
Gorgui Dieng, MIN UP C 51 68 0.0 7.5 7.6 0.9 0.6 0.9 1.1 20 Pekovic is going to be limited to 26-27 minutes a game, which means gimme the Dieng train! If he’s routinely over 20 minutes a game, on top of the really realistic shot at numerous starts behind brittle Pek, he needs to be drafted aggressively. Last 18 games last year (15 starts) 12/11.3/1.5/1.1/1.5 shooting 53% FG 71% FT only 1.8 TO. Gimme the Dieng train!
Greg Monroe, DET DOWN PF, C 49 68 0.0 16.5 9.6 2.4 1.2 0.7 1.8 34 Stan Van has quoted that both Smoove and Drummond have great hops for defense, while Monroe is going to miss two games and has peed on himself. Need I say more?
Henry Sims, PHI UP C 50 75 0.0 12.0 7.2 1.8 0.9 0.5 1.4 28 13.1/7.7/2/0.9/0.4 with only 1.4 TO in final 19 games last year, and should start for most of the year until Embiid is 100% ready. Nothing has sounded too optimistic for Embiid and Sims is ready to provide solid big man stats, but he’s not a blocker. You have to figure that in with your roster comp.
Hollis Thompson, PHI SF, PF 45 74 1.3 8.0 3.6 1.3 0.9 0.2 1.1 28 Treys and steals upside if he indeed starts, right now is lightly penciled in.
Iman Shumpert, NYK SG, SF 40 76 1.1 9.0 3.8 2.3 1.4 0.2 1.1 28 Offers you a steal and a trey, and that’s about it. Tough competition for minutes against emerging Timmay J.
Isaiah Thomas, PHO PG 45 85 1.5 16.0 2.4 5.3 1.0 0.1 2.4 28 I thought IT2 was going to be an interesting sleeper, but he’s getting ranked obscenely high. I don’t think he’s ever the facilitator with Dragic or Bledsoe, and the dimes drop way off.
J.J. Redick, LAC SG 44 90 2.2 15.0 2.3 2.4 0.7 0.1 1.2 30 In an injury-riddled campaign, was actually 67th in per-game last year. A great fit in the Clips O for sneaky value. Plus, he’s on the positive end of ThrAGNOF!
J.R. Smith, NYK SG, SF 42 72 2.5 15.5 3.8 2.6 1.0 0.2 1.5 32 Career-high assists last year with horrible Felton at PG, those will go down, treys to regress, never been a JR fan.
Jabari Parker, MIL SF 46 76 0.7 14.5 7.8 1.0 0.9 0.7 2.8 30 I’m reaching for the rookie – I think counting stats will be reliable and have a pretty consistent 34ish minute role.
Jamal Crawford, LAC PG, SG 41 87 2.0 16.0 1.9 2.7 0.8 0.1 1.8 28 Spiked in dimes while CP3 was hurt, minutes and points to regress and late nagging injuries last year scare me.
Jameer Nelson, DAL PG 41 83 2.1 11.0 3.2 5.8 0.7 0.1 2.1 30 Best fit of the 3 Mavericks PGs since he can hit treys. I see him surprising this year as an old vet sleeper.
James Ennis, MIA SF 45 77 1.0 7.0 3.2 0.9 0.7 0.5 1.1 20 Heat lack youth and explosiveness at backup wing, summer league sure opened some eyes.
James Harden, HOU UP SG, SF 45 86 2.5 26.0 4.9 6.4 1.7 0.4 3.7 38 Considering the unbelievable post-ASB slash of 27.7/4.7/7.4/1.9/0.3 shooting 47% from the field with three treys a game – and no Jeremy Lin – I see a new career-high in assists for an out-of-position option that should surpass Paul’s output. And you can’t discount the high-volume FT shooting that can win your weekly FTs.
James Johnson, TOR SF, PF 45 73 0.3 7.5 4.2 1.8 0.9 1.0 1.3 20 Listed as a SF reserve could make him really interesting since Terrence Ross is a question mark at best as a starter, per-36s last year were redonk.
Jared Sullinger, BOS PF, C 44 78 1.0 15.0 8.4 1.8 0.6 0.7 1.9 30 13.9/9/1.8/0.5/0.8 with 0.8 treys in 44 starts last year, in 29:33 a game. Markieff Morris-lite.
Jarrett Jack, BKN PG, SG 43 84 0.9 11.5 3.1 4.3 0.7 0.2 1.8 30 Will fill in admirably in the Shaun Livingston role, doing nothing exceptional but being useful.
Jason Smith, NYK PF, C 46 77 0.0 8.0 4.8 0.6 0.3 0.9 0.9 20 Late-round flyer for some boards and a block, should see some decent minutes behind Dalembert.
JaVale McGee, DEN C 53 59 0.0 10.0 6.8 0.5 0.5 1.7 1.5 24 Blocks upside still there, will have to compete for minutes.
Jeff Adrien, HOU SF, PF 49 66 0.0 9.5 7.1 0.8 0.6 0.7 1.1 22 Post-ASB was 10.5/7.6/1.1/0.6/0.8 in only 24:25 MPG last year – with little 3/4 depth in Houston, could play those minutes again in 14-15.
Jeff Green, BOS SG, SF 43 80 1.4 15.0 4.5 1.5 0.6 0.6 1.9 32 One of the “busts of the year” for 13-14, really nothing indicates he’ll be any better in 14-15.
Jeff Teague, ATL PG 46 84 1.0 17.0 2.7 6.6 1.3 0.3 2.8 34 Was so brutal in January last year, I’m worried by his streakiness.
Jeremy Lin, LAL PG, SG 44 79 1.2 14.0 2.8 6.2 1.3 0.4 2.7 30 Low-upside, but Kobe to take the pressure off and a change of scenery could make him sneaky value. Don’t discount those steals!
Jimmy Butler, CHI SG, SF 42 77 1.3 14.0 5.2 2.7 2.0 0.6 1.5 36 Shot under 40% last year and should see lower scoring with Rose back. Love his real-life game, 13-14 numbers slightly inflated by 38:39 MPG which is likely to go down a bit.
Joakim Noah, CHI PF, C 49 74 0.0 12.0 10.4 3.8 1.2 1.6 2.1 34 Had a career season without Rose, obvious regression to hit and lengthy track record of lingering injuries scares me.
Jodie Meeks, DET SG 43 87 2.1 12.5 2.0 1.6 1.1 0.1 1.3 32 Great %s from a high-volume 3-shooter, should rack up steals in Stan Van’s D, I think he’ll come somewhere close to what he did in 13-14 which was a top-50 overall. KCP looming for minutes does scare me though.
Joe Johnson, BKN SG, SF 44 82 1.8 14.5 3.3 2.9 0.6 0.1 1.6 32 Had some big spikes when D-Will got hurt, but D-Will will have some injury stretches again…
John Henson, MIL UP PF, C 53 53 0.0 12.0 7.9 1.7 0.7 1.7 1.7 28 Early news is he’ll get the first shot to start, and in 23 starts last year 13.3/8.5/2/0.5/2. Poor man’s FT-punt big! Give him the minutes or give me death!
John Wall, WAS PG 44 81 1.3 20.5 4.1 9.2 1.8 0.7 3.6 38 Led NBA in total assists, played 82 games, and still young and developing with Beal. Hopefully the slight signs of wear down last year (dare I say, he hit a wall?) we be overcome.
Jonas Valanciunas, TOR C 54 78 0.0 13.5 9.0 0.8 0.4 1.1 1.8 30 Vastly improved post-ASB, especially with FG% from 50 to 58, and maybe had some sophomore-slump-itis or an injury most of last year. Upside to bounce back, but I can’t reach after being burnt last year.
Jordan Hill, LAL UP PF, C 53 72 0.0 14.0 8.3 0.9 0.7 1.4 1.6 28 13/8.9/0.8/0.5/1.1 in 32 starts last year, and still in under 25 minutes a game. Needs the role, but I find myself wanting him top 100 for the blocks and great boards. Let’s hope he gets the consistent role!
Jose Calderon, NYK PG 45 84 2.3 11.0 2.4 6.1 0.9 0.1 1.6 32 I’m buying a decent Ast resurgence in the triangle O, with similar 3s output and low TOs. Was a surprising value last year.
Josh McRoberts, MIA PF, C 44 73 1.3 10.0 5.6 3.9 0.8 0.6 1.1 30 Should repeat 13-14 numbers – overall value last year inflated a bit by low TO. Solid plug-n-play for across the board stats.
Josh Smith, DET SF, PF 43 56 0.7 15.0 6.6 3.1 1.2 1.4 2.4 32 This rank is hoping Stan Van Gundy gets through to him and Smith improves the terrible %s and TOs. If he becomes a sixth man, I think he can maintain big Stl/Blk numbers even in reduced minutes.
Jrue Holiday, NOP PG 44 78 1.0 15.0 4.2 7.8 1.6 0.4 3.3 34 The Pelicans are turning into a really interesting team if they can stay healthy, with Jrue the true PG running the show. December slash of 16.3/4.6/9/1.4/0.4 while finally gelling with the offense pre-injury shows you the upside.
Julius Randle, LAL PF 46 70 0.0 12.0 7.3 1.2 0.5 0.6 2.2 26 I’m passing on this rook, has to fend off a lot of guys for minutes and is only a scorer/boarder.
K.J. McDaniels, PHI UP SF 43 77 0.8 12.5 5.6 1.4 1.0 1.2 1.7 30 The upside for a starting role is still there, and not many wings give you blocks. Worth the last pick flier.
Kawhi Leonard, SAS UP SG, SF 49 81 1.4 15.0 6.8 2.2 1.9 0.8 1.5 34 The risk is only in usage both in role and minutes, but Pop had an encouraging quote citing he will be coaching Kawhi consistency to be in the upper echelon of players. But even his floor is a pretty nasty multi-cat game.
Kelly Olynyk, BOS C 48 81 0.8 12.0 7.1 2.7 0.5 0.5 1.9 28 A decent NBA player, but not a good starter and will be stuck in a minutes logjam.
Kemba Walker, CHA PG 41 82 1.6 18.0 4.2 6.4 1.4 0.4 2.4 36 Late-January ankle sprain lingered through the end of the season, improving AST:TO ratio while shooting tremendously pre-injury could make a draft day steal.
Kendall Marshall, MIL DOWN PG 41 68 0.9 7.5 2.1 6.4 0.7 0.1 2.0 24 Eh, I think I looked at him with too much D’Antoni’s-crappy-team/opportunity-colored glasses. This still has him higher than most, especially since assists come at such a premium this year.
Kenneth Faried, DEN UP PF 54 70 0.0 19.0 10.4 1.6 1.1 2.3 2.3 32 Slim still likes him a little higher than here, and there’s no doubting his athleticism, but FT shooting and not much more upside in Stls/Blks tempers my expectations a little bit. If he’s here this late though, yeah I’m all-in.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, DET SG 42 77 1.3 11.5 2.7 1.1 1.4 0.2 1.0 26 My boyfriend! StanVan loves his D from KCP with no TO. It’s like a Sesame Street episode! Needs to carry over season finale game/Summer League play into the season, but worth the upside.
Kevin Durant, OKC SF, PF 51 88 2.2 31.0 7.6 5.0 1.3 0.8 3.5 38 Less expected than an M. Night Shyamalan twist – apparently his next movie is called “Labor of Love”. The twist? Bruce Willis is actually Kevin Love. And is an alien.
Kevin Love, CLE PF, C 47 82 2.3 21.0 11.2 2.6 0.7 0.4 2.1 36 With LeBron and Varejao cutting into his boards, Kyrie will also slash his points and treys. Still a multi-cat contributor, but not the top-5 stud while in Minny.
Kevin Martin, MIN SG, SF 43 89 1.7 19.0 3.0 1.8 1.0 0.1 1.7 32 No more Love makes K-Mart the main offensive threat and should hit a bajillion treys.
Khris Middleton, MIL SF, PF 45 83 0.7 8.0 2.9 1.3 0.9 0.2 0.9 24 Finished 75th last year in total value, was durable for 82 games, is versatile enough to play backup to the 2, 3 and 4.
Klay Thompson, GSW SG, SF 45 80 2.7 18.0 3.1 2.1 0.9 0.4 1.6 36 Poster boy of ThrAGNOF – don’t overpay for high-volume threes and low TOs while he does nothing else special.
Kobe Bryant, LAL PG, SG 43 84 1.3 19.0 4.6 5.0 1.1 0.2 2.0 34 Incredibly polarizing – upside is huge, downside is he gets hurt again early on. I feel good with the risk here.
Kris Humphries, WAS PF, C 50 80 0.0 10.0 6.6 1.0 0.5 1.0 1.0 24 Backup PF/C minutes galore, with both guys ahead of him old and injury-prone. Solid when given run last year.
Kyle Korver, ATL SG, SF 47 92 2.6 12.0 4.0 3.0 0.9 0.3 1.5 34 Not reaching for the ThrAGNOF, but another year of big minutes, big treys, and no TOs are in store. Plus he’s got sharp, oh so sharp talons.
Kyle Lowry, TOR PG 42 80 2.1 17.0 4.4 7.2 1.5 0.2 2.4 34 A monster breakout last year, I think he can do it again, injury-risk after career-long issue still a big concern.
Kyrie Irving, CLE PG, SG 44 86 1.6 18.0 3.4 5.2 1.5 0.3 2.4 34 It’s all postulation, but I think Kyrie can surprise with ratios, get more assists than most (Slim!) expects, but at the expense of a few points.
LaMarcus Aldridge, POR PF, C 46 81 0.0 22.0 9.8 2.5 0.9 0.9 1.9 36 The FG% from a big is no fun, but a sneaky multi-cat contributor.
Lance Stephenson, CHA SG, SF 48 71 1.2 14.5 7.2 4.2 0.8 0.1 2.6 36 TOs should go down, but so should the boards. Like PBev, nothing exciting but sheer volume should accrue value.
Larry Sanders, MIL DOWN PF, C 49 56 0.0 9.0 8.1 1.1 0.9 2.3 1.2 28 So hard to rank, so hard to like as a person, but upside is still there and his contract means he’s going to at least get a shot. Henson might start, however Sanders was still a monster in 12-13 at 27 MPG. I’m not reaching; that said, not explicitly passing either. Moving down a few spots since I love Henson so much.
LeBron James, CLE SF, PF 55 75 1.3 25.0 6.4 5.9 1.6 0.4 3.2 38 Disappearing blocks, regressing boards – especially with Love joining – and arguably the best supporting cast with the best PG he’s played with. Less rock for King!
Luis Scola, IND PF, C 47 75 0.0 8.0 5.2 1.2 0.3 0.2 1.4 20 Hibbert could continue to be awful, Mahinmi is hurt, there’s just no depth on that front line.
Luol Deng, MIA SF, PF 43 77 0.9 16.0 5.4 2.6 1.0 0.2 1.5 34 I see a good resurgence in Miami, was having a really big year in Chicago before being awful post-trade. He fits better in South Beach.
Manu Ginobili, SAS SG, SF 45 84 1.4 12.5 3.1 4.1 0.9 0.2 2.0 24 Finished 98th in under 23 minutes a game last year, should come close to repeat but game-to-game will be maddening to own.
Marc Gasol, MEM C 48 78 0.0 15.0 7.8 3.8 1.0 1.4 1.9 34 19th overall player final two months, and that’s after recovering from a bad MCL sprain. Started slow under the Joerger regime, I’m stoked if Gasol falls to me here.
Marcin Gortat, WAS C 55 68 0.0 13.0 9.4 1.5 0.5 1.4 1.5 32 Huge season in Wizards debut, should have no problem having a comparable encore.
Marco Belinelli, SAS DOWN SG, SF 44 83 1.4 10.5 2.7 2.2 0.6 0.1 1.1 24 A roster filler with no upside, I think I had him too high considering he does no 1 thing very well. Besides not turn the ball over. And, well, get the Spurs announcers all amped up with Italian cliches…
Marcus Morris, PHO PF 45 75 1.5 11.0 4.3 1.3 1.0 0.3 1.3 26 Some minutes are opened up with Frye gone, will be a surprising bottom-end contributor with treys from a PF.
Marcus Smart, BOS UP PG 41 76 1.1 11.0 4.1 3.2 1.2 0.3 1.8 26 I’m still not huge on Smart for fantasy, but gets a bump with a probable starting role while Rondo is out. You might be dropping him after a few weeks, but he’s going to be forced into minutes and might find a spark, even if he’s not a 3-point shooter or dimer for a PG.
Mario Chalmers, MIA PG 44 77 1.7 11.5 3.2 5.6 1.7 0.2 2.4 32 Sure there’s some upside with LeBron now gone, but I’m not that enthusiastic.
Markieff Morris, PHO UP PF, C 48 79 0.8 17.0 6.8 2.2 1.0 0.9 2.2 34 Per-36 26/11.3/3.4/1.6/1.4 with 0.8 treys a game last year, and looking at a role close to those minutes. I keep getting him around here and keep feeling great about it.
Marvin Williams, CHA SF, PF 44 78 1.2 8.5 4.7 1.1 0.7 0.4 0.8 24 Off his best per-36 season, by far his best perimeter output, and should get big minutes.
Mason Plumlee, BKN PF, C 55 65 0.0 13.5 8.3 1.3 1.0 1.2 2.1 28 Could shoot way up for me if news is encouraging on his 14-15 role, per-36s in rookie year were very solid.
Matt Barnes, LAC SF 45 74 1.2 9.0 4.6 1.8 0.8 0.4 1.1 26 Like McBob, a low upside stat-stuffer late. Big 2nd half aided by no Redick who I think has a big year.
Michael Carter-Williams, PHI DOWN PG 41 71 1.0 18.0 6.4 6.7 2.0 0.7 3.6 36 You still won’t need to draft him until the 4th round most likely (at the earliest), and the lingering shoulder issue gives me a wrinkle. I’ll let you decide where that wrinkle is.
Mike Conley, MEM PG 45 82 1.4 17.0 2.8 6.1 1.7 0.2 2.1 34 Is the anti-Rubio, safer on all fronts, but without the category-killing upside.
Mike Dunleavy, CHI SG, SF 44 82 1.4 10.5 4.1 2.0 0.7 0.4 1.2 28 McDermott (maybe) stealing the starting role hurts, as does how good I think Snell is going to be. A role player with no upside.
Mike Scott, ATL PF 47 78 1.0 11.0 3.8 1.1 0.5 0.1 1.2 22 Can back up the 3 and 4, might take some injuries to really hit on upside, but deep ball threat should keep him usable in deep leagues all year.
Miles Plumlee, PHO PF, C 51 58 0.0 9.0 8.0 0.6 0.6 1.2 1.4 26 Completely fell off when the calendar turned to 2014, but for a late source of blocks, Frye let go will open up more minutes.
Mirza Teletovic, BKN UP SF, PF 43 71 2.2 11.5 4.1 1.0 0.5 0.4 0.9 24 Kirilenko is already hurt with a back issue, Kevin Garnett is a walking back issue, Teletovic is primed for a breakout with a boatload of treys. ThrAGNOF!
Monta Ellis, DAL PG, SG 44 78 0.8 19.0 3.7 5.9 1.5 0.2 3.1 36 A rock-solid safety pick, and he should have no problem duplicating 13-14 with maybe even a tad more upside with Dallas’ downgrade at PG.
Nene Hilario, WAS PF, C 50 66 0.0 13.0 5.8 2.6 1.1 0.8 1.9 28 Worth a reach if punting FT or TO, would be higher if he wasn’t so old and injury prone.
Nerlens Noel, PHI PF, C 51 68 0.0 10.5 7.4 1.3 1.5 2.6 1.9 28 This should put him on all of my teams. Immense upside, more polished offensive game than he gets credit for – the probable minutes limitation does make it a gamble.
Nick Young, LAL SG, SF 42 83 1.4 12.5 2.2 1.2 0.6 0.2 1.2 24 Sure he was 93rd last year, but hits treys with not too bad TOs (=metrics-friendly) and will get a lot less shots with Kobe back.
Nicolas Batum, POR SG, SF 47 82 2.0 13.5 7.2 5.0 1.0 0.8 2.4 36 Safe, reliable, multi-cat goodness. Should replicate 13-14 with relative ease.
Nik Stauskas, SAC SG 43 83 1.6 11.0 2.2 2.3 0.4 0.1 1.0 26 I see him taking McLemore’s job and being a surprise source of assists with low TOs, along with the given treys and good %s.
Nikola Pekovic, MIN DOWN C 53 74 0.0 17.0 8.7 1.0 0.6 0.6 1.7 30 Minutes reduction is an absolute killer. Gave you his previous output through volume, and really only scores and rebounds. Yikes.
Nikola Vucevic, ORL PF, C 51 77 0.0 16.0 11.8 1.9 1.0 1.0 2.0 34 Has always been underrated, should have another 1+ 5-cat line with his minutes bouncing back up and terrific %s.
Omer Asik, NOP PF, C 54 60 0.0 9.0 10.2 0.5 0.5 1.2 1.8 28 Beyond boards and a block a game, doesn’t do too much and won’t get huge minutes. FT drain a bugaboo too.
Otto Porter, WAS (projection in progress) UP SF 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 Huge Summer League (first-team), and the favorite for minutes behind Grandpa Truth. No Martell Webster for a bit could give him some minutes at the 2 as well if the Wiz want to play big.
P.J. Tucker, PHO SG, SF 44 77 1.0 10.0 6.6 1.7 1.3 0.3 1.3 30 A little regression in value and minutes likely, already missing three games to suspension and isn’t exactly a special player.
Patrick Beverley, HOU PG, SG 43 81 1.8 12.5 3.8 3.1 1.5 0.5 1.4 34 More minutes with Lin gone, his metric-friendly 3s/low TOs should carry over with good steals. Nothing too exciting, but value will add up.
Pau Gasol, CHI DOWN PF, C 50 75 0.0 16.0 8.4 2.9 0.4 1.3 1.8 30 While my blurb before holds true (FG% should jump back up on a better team, out-of-position dimes are huge, chips in blocks still as well… Not much to not like other than injury risk), like Gay, I just never end up getting him so moved him down a little. I don’t want no boring!
Paul Millsap, ATL PF, C 47 74 1.0 19.0 8.7 3.1 1.8 1.0 2.5 36 A bit of a reach, but his best month of scoring/treys in 13-14 was with Horford on the court, and will continue to develop the perimeter game with Horford establishing the paint.
Paul Pierce, WAS SF, PF 44 82 1.4 13.0 4.4 2.2 1.0 0.3 2.0 28 Age obviously up there, and the Wiz are loaded at SF. A healthy, big-minute season would make this way wrong, but I’m hedging against it.
Rajon Rondo, BOS DOWN PG 45 63 0.7 12.0 5.3 9.6 1.5 0.1 3.2 32 Arguably the biggest news of the past month, a broken hand will cost him 10ish games. I think I had him a little too high to begin with as well…
Ramon Sessions, SAC (projection in progress) UP PG, SG 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 Impossible to rank until he signed, but I love him going to SAC. Could run some 1/2 with Collison, will get most of the backup PG minutes, and had value behind Kemba in Charlotte years and late last year in Milwaukee.
Randy Foye, DEN PG, SG 41 85 1.3 10.0 2.1 2.5 0.6 0.2 1.2 22 Had a huge year last year, but a greatly reduced role behind Lawson and Afflalo in 14-15.
Reggie Jackson, OKC PG, SG 45 88 1.2 14.5 4.4 4.6 1.2 0.2 2.0 30 Solid as a starter last year, and while most of those starts were without Westbrook, sheer volume of minutes as the probable starting 2 should add up nice numbers.
Ricky Rubio, MIN PG 39 80 0.8 12.0 4.2 8.9 2.4 0.1 3.0 34 The offense continues to be muy mal, but another elite ast/stl season is worth the price of admission.
Robin Lopez, POR C 54 81 0.0 11.0 8.6 0.8 0.4 1.6 1.0 32 Played 82 games past two years, and low TOs help the overall seasonal-ranking. I probably should be higher, but just can’t get over how not great at basketball he is…
Rodney Hood, UTA SF 41 81 1.2 7.5 3.0 1.2 0.5 0.1 0.9 20 Sneaky ThrAGNOF upside, the Jazz have a serious lack of other perimeter shooters.
Rodney Stuckey, IND PG, SG 43 83 0.5 15.5 3.2 3.8 0.9 0.2 2.1 32 George Hill isn’t a passer and Stuckey might be the main offensive catalyst. While on an offensively-challenged team, still think he can surprise.
Roy Hibbert, IND C 45 76 0.0 12.0 7.1 1.3 0.4 2.1 1.9 28 I’m not touching Hibbert unless he falls way down and I need blocks.
Rudy Gay, SAC DOWN SF, PF 45 79 0.7 19.0 5.5 2.8 1.3 0.6 2.8 34 Through mocks and a few drafts, he just isn’t appealing to me in the 30s. Serviceable, but boring. Nothing has changed, just how I’ve analyzed him after drafting a lot of teams.
Rudy Gobert, UTA UP C 56 58 0.0 5.0 7.2 0.3 0.3 1.5 1.3 20 Still has the always-in-foul-trouble worry and can’t hit FT, but blocks upside this late has no one else more appealing.
Russ Smith, NOP (projection in progress) UP PG 0 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0 Another gut feeling. Has reportedly won the backup PG role over Austin Rivers, played great in Summer League, and while I like Jrue a lot, he’s certainly brittle and still has the leg issue. Off-the-radar upside.
Russell Westbrook, OKC PG 44 82 1.4 23.0 5.2 7.2 1.8 0.2 3.8 34 A rough 13-14 season with injuries and TOs, he developed a career-best perimeter game and I think a healthy season will reap 10th overall value.
Ryan Anderson, NOP PF, C 43 85 2.4 15.0 6.2 1.0 0.4 0.3 0.9 28 Out-of-position treys with virtually no TOs makes him a good pair with the bigger name PGs, while spinal injury last year is scary, I think he’ll bounce back and be healthy.
Ryan Kelly, LAL PF 43 82 0.7 7.5 3.4 1.5 0.5 0.6 0.8 18 Even though there’s a ton of depth at PF on the Lakers, he’s the only one that can stretch the floor.
Samuel Dalembert, NYK C 56 75 0.0 9.0 7.9 0.7 0.6 1.3 1.3 24 I think Jason Smith is going to steal more minutes than you’d expect, still some late blocks upside.
Serge Ibaka, OKC PF, C 53 77 0.6 17.0 9.3 1.2 0.5 3.0 1.5 34 Iblocka! Plus he should take another baby step forward in FG%, Pts, treys… There’s really nothing not to like.
Shaun Livingston, GSW DOWN PG, SG 47 82 0.0 7.5 2.6 3.1 0.8 0.3 1.2 20 The toe surgery continues to linger, and I’m getting increasingly worried for the vet.
Spencer Hawes, LAC PF, C 47 77 1.4 11.5 7.4 2.3 0.4 1.0 1.7 28 A revelation last year, should still get must-own minutes as Clips’ 6th man.
Stephen Curry, GSW PG, SG 47 90 3.5 24.0 4.1 8.7 1.7 0.2 3.6 38 Steady as she blows, big threes and big dimes, with a vault in the latter in 13-14. Kerr as the new coach shouldn’t change anything and Curry still has ThrAGNOF king Klay Thompson to camp for treys.
Steven Adams, OKC C 54 62 0.0 7.0 7.1 0.8 0.7 1.0 1.3 24 All the upside in the world for his career, not going to score much, but board, steals and blocks upside.
Taj Gibson, CHI PF, C 49 73 0.0 14.0 7.2 1.2 0.5 1.5 1.8 30 Durable, and even as a 6th man should get to 30 minutes especially behind brittle bigs. Underrated blocker.
Terrence Jones, HOU UP SF, PF 52 63 0.6 14.0 7.6 1.3 0.9 1.4 1.1 30 There’s no reason he should be ranked lower even though he’s miles lower for other rankers. Moving him up due to sheer upside compared to the field around here.
Terrence Ross, TOR SG, SF 43 81 2.3 13.0 3.4 1.2 1.0 0.4 1.4 30 Young with upside like the ridiculous 51-pointer, but still raw and lacks in most cats right now. Worth the lottery pick at this point.
Thaddeus Young, MIN UP SF, PF 46 71 0.9 16.5 6.0 2.1 1.7 0.5 2.0 34 Succumbing a little bit to the consensus and to comments, I think I had him an iota too low. The steals are coming a little down, and I don’t think the perimeter game is going to carry over as much (K-Mart can only shoot 3s!), but solid here.
Tiago Splitter, SAS C 54 71 0.0 9.0 6.2 1.5 0.6 0.6 1.2 22 No upside, but hits all cats for a roster-filler in deep leagues.
Tim Duncan, SAS PF, C 48 74 0.0 14.0 8.9 2.5 0.5 1.5 1.8 28 Despite losing minutes and a racking up a couple DNPs, finished top-40 last year.
Tim Hardaway Jr., NYK SG 42 82 2.0 13.0 1.7 0.9 0.7 0.1 0.7 28 One of the many reasons you ThrAGNOF!
Timofey Mozgov, DEN C 53 75 0.0 8.5 6.2 0.7 0.3 1.2 1.5 20 McGee to reclaim some minutes, Mozgov is the boring one of the pair.
Tobias Harris, ORL SF, PF 48 80 0.8 17.0 7.2 1.4 1.0 0.6 1.4 30 Acquisition of Frye and selection of Gordon shows non-committal approach, still such a fantasy-friendly player that if he gets the run could surprise.
Tony Allen, MEM SG, SF 48 72 0.2 9.5 3.9 1.6 1.4 0.4 1.3 26 A late source of steals and that’s about it, a no-upside deep league play.
Tony Parker, SAS PG 49 81 0.4 16.0 2.3 5.8 0.6 0.1 2.2 30 DNPs, injuries, minutes restrictions, oh my! Wicked witch of the Alamo…
Tony Snell, CHI SG, SF 42 79 1.3 9.0 3.1 2.0 0.7 0.3 0.7 22 One of the select few that I’ll rank high without a decent minutes outlook. I like the talent too much.
Tony Wroten, PHI DOWN PG 43 66 0.7 13.5 3.4 3.2 1.1 0.2 2.8 26 Looking more and more like he’s coming off the bench, as I was hoping he got a starting 2 role. He’s a big guy who could handle that position, but an off-the-bench guy with horrible FT numbers… Eh…
Trevor Ariza, HOU SG, SF 45 77 1.9 13.0 6.1 2.4 1.6 0.3 1.7 34 Big breakout in 13-14 minimized with move to Houston, but 3s with low-TOs should yield another solid season.
Trey Burke, UTA PG 40 87 1.7 13.5 3.1 5.9 0.8 0.1 2.0 32 Anemic steals, horrible FG%, but is the last big minute PG on the board if you need some upside.
Ty Lawson, DEN PG 44 79 1.2 18.0 3.4 8.8 1.5 0.2 3.2 36 Chock full of dimebags like a true Denver dispensary!
Tyreke Evans, NOP DOWN SG, SF 45 77 0.5 17.0 4.8 4.4 1.3 0.4 2.6 30 While his post-ASB play was astounding, a lot had to do with Jrue Holiday being hurt. Lingering knee issues led to a hamstring strain that will keep him out of some preseason action – a starting role may be in doubt.
Tyson Chandler, DAL C 60 66 0.0 8.0 9.4 1.0 0.6 1.1 1.2 30 Return to Dallas will solidify a nice late Reb/Blk contribution.
Victor Oladipo, ORL PG, SG 44 79 1.2 17.5 4.7 4.8 1.8 0.6 3.2 34 I’m hoping to get RainbOladipo on all of my teams – Orlando has cleared out the annoying G vets and given him the keys. Lost 20 pounds and is ready for a big breakout.
Vince Carter, MEM SG, SF 41 82 1.7 11.0 3.3 2.4 0.7 0.4 1.3 24 Three year deal shows commitment, easily could start and play 30 minutes at the 3.
Wes Johnson, LAL UP SG, SF 42 78 1.1 8.5 4.1 1.4 0.9 0.8 1.0 26 Still a little bit of a minutes crunch, and he’s not going to touch the ball much on O, but his value is in Stls/Blks.
Wesley Matthews, POR SG, SF 44 83 2.4 16.0 3.4 2.4 1.1 0.2 1.4 34 Definition of a safe pick, has played in every game in 4 of his 5 seasons, microscopic TOs, a perfect compliment to a high volume TO PG who doesn’t make enough 3s.
Wilson Chandler, DEN SG, SF 43 76 1.6 12.5 4.6 1.7 0.7 0.6 1.2 28 Wasted a big opportunity last year, Gallinari to take a ton of minutes away.
Zach Randolph, MEM DOWN PF, C 47 75 0.0 16.0 9.4 2.3 0.7 0.3 2.1 32 Consistency! And Pts/Reb! And that’s it…  So he moves even further down…
  1. Padara says:
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    sups work guys!!

    one question: It seems the ranking is the same here as in the top200, meaning both of you share the same rankings? maybe a stupid question, but I thought we were not 100% on the same line for some ranks?

    thanks

    • A Hill O' Beans says:
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      @Padara: If I may, I believe its JBs rankings with Slims stat projections added in. For both the top 200 and this, which is basically a reformatted top 200. Its not actually Slims rankings, I think those are top secret.

      For JB/Slim/Rudy/Curtis:
      Much easier to use guys. Nice job! Its good to see the different arms of Razzball working together!

    • Slim

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      @Padara: Yeah, I don’t rank really. More like a range and it’s completely possible to have like 15 guys in the 80’s range. For a 12-team league I have a top 12, then I have options of who I want to pair with each, usually 3-4 options. Then I have options for the third player based of each pairing. It’s too much to write down and it changes drastically by league size. But yes, this is the same as the top 200. I may say “our ranks” but what their exact number is isn’t something I have anything to do with. Just like JB didn’t have any input on the projections which is why for some players the words don’t match the stats.

      • Pada says:
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        @Slim: I understand. Would you share some of your work regarding these pairing scenarios for Round2, and then possible best match for round3?
        this is great stuff… I need to do this analysis myself before my drafts… but it’s good to share insights if it’s not (too) secret stuff! 😉

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Pada: Yup as said above, sorry if that wasn’t clear! Just made this list for drafters to have sortable Slim projection stats. I’ll let Slim talk about his pairs but one that’s common and I like a ton is Ibaka Wall

      • CTMN says:
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        @Slim: Yeah I think JR Smith is a pretty good example, JB said he’ll lose some 3s this season but your projectionis 2.5/game for him. I think both opinions are totally possible. Good work by everyone!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @CTMN: Yeah with the Knicks down so much last year, I think it could go down, but in the triangle O, he still will have opportunities. Thanks Man!

  2. DanielL says:
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    Hey guys,

    i feel like your putting david west too low…he will be the number one option on the team. 74 seems a bit underrated, maybe its just me

    • JB Gilpin

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      @DanielL: While yes, #1 option and no question I see his points going up, but with added pressure Fg% and TO should go the wrong way and he doesn’t do enough Reb/Ast/Stl/Blk to get me more interested, even though he does chip in a little bit in both. Nothing is gonna come in good volume except points (well boards too, but not for a big is all)

  3. DK says:
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    Have you guys checked out the new Yahoo draft online and mobile? Seems better. Anyways what I don’t understand is the live draft always list players total season stats rather than avg stats. Almost all player rankings use avg stats too. Is there a reason why yahoo is using total stats? I don’t really know how to read it. Can someone help the best way to translate the total stats to avg stats so I don’t have to keep referring to my other ranking excel during live draft?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @DK: Yeah Yahoo has always done seasonal stats, not sure why. Other than taking the numbers and dividing by 82, which of course doesn’t factor in injuries and such, I’m not sure the best option maybe there’s something to tweak in the draft room but I’m not sure, I’ll look into doin a mock this weekend!

      • DK says:
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        @JB Gilpin: But for those playing roto, I guess full season stats would be beneficial?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @DK: Maybe, but it’s weird, I mean, for baseball I wouldn’t want hits over average you know? But I guess baseball’s stats are sorta bedrock…

  4. jhm says:
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    would you say that jabbari parker’s rank is not supported by slim’s projection? The projection seems pedestrian for the 4th round. It looks like a 5 to 6 round variance between the two to me which would price parker off my team.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @jhm: Yup! These are my ranks with his projections, a big difference is Slim has him for 30 minutes and I see him going for 34 a night. Slim and I chatted Parker on one of the earlier podcasts and he’s one of the few players we’re far apart on. It’s a gamble!

  5. dan-o1 says:
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    damn this is nice!. just type in a name aaaand presto…
    top job guys!!!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @dan-o1: Glad we helped, all the thanks to Slim Curtis and RUdy!

    • Slim

      Slim says:
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      @JB Gilpin: Dwight Howard too. Blocks.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Slim: Yeesh. Eh well, at least that seems to be it…

  6. Sam from Team: What Would Jrue Do? says:
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    #MINDBLOWN

    Razzball for the (my) Win!

  7. DK says:
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    JB, I followed your advice of at least 3 PGs for first 6 rounds. It seems I generally end up with PGs and Big Mens for the mid, and then the late ones are all my remaining SG and SF. As you mention assist PG dry up fast. Next in line is the Blocks + Rebounds. Beyond that the rest are generally 3pt specialists.

    I did another mock draft 4th draft in 14 teams and this is what I ended up with. Looking at my mock draft, it seems I am lacking in SG or 3ptsers. Pick 1-11 seems solid, but I am not quite sure about my pick 13-14.

    Simply I don’t quite like SG who generally only have 3pts, that includes even Beal, Korver and Anderson. However, that’s what killed me last season when I didn’t pick high volume 3pters and ended up killing my 3s even though I have picked up PGs does do 3s. I think if I picked up Curry, I should be golden. Since I picked up CP3, I need to get a high volume 3pter somewhere in mid.

    1. Chris Paul
    2. Al Horford (Millsap and everyone else was taken)
    3. Ty Lawson
    4. Nerlens Noel (I was thinking of grabbing Beal, but Noel solidifies my blocks)
    5. Jeff Teague
    6. Markieff Morris
    7. Brandon Jennings
    8. Tyson Chandler
    9. DeMarre Carroll (Wanted to grab Draymond after 9, but he was gone after this)
    10. Josh McRoberts
    11. Matt Barnes (Dray2 was gone sadly)
    12. Mirza Teletovic
    13. C.J. Miles

    • DK says:
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      @DK: I think I am getting the hang of it.

      Round 1, Pick 4 (4th Overall)
      Chris Paul LAC – PG
      Round 2, Pick 11 (25th Overall)
      Paul Millsap Atl – PF,C
      Round 3, Pick 4 (32nd Overall)
      Ty Lawson Den – PG
      Round 4, Pick 11 (53rd Overall)
      Bradley Beal Was – SG
      Round 5, Pick 4 (60th Overall)
      Derrick Favors Uta – PF,C
      Round 6, Pick 11 (81st Overall)
      George Hill Ind – PG,SG
      Round 7, Pick 4 (88th Overall)
      Markieff Morris Pho – PF,C
      Round 8, Pick 11 (109th Overall)
      Terrence Jones Hou – SF,PF
      Round 9, Pick 4 (116th Overall)
      Jeremy Lin LAL – PG,SG
      Round 10, Pick 11 (137th Overall)
      Draymond Green GS – SF
      Round 11, Pick 4 (144th Overall)
      Reggie Jackson OKC – PG,SG
      Round 12, Pick 11 (165th Overall)
      John Henson Mil – PF,C
      Round 13, Pick 4 (172nd Overall)
      Terrence Ross Tor – SG,SF

      • JB Gilpin

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        @DK: Yeah I like team 2 a little better. Getting CP and Lawson is a huge combo, so you could fill out your team a little better early on. Favors at 60 is unreal. Lin shouldn’t be going that late either and obviously like all your late picks. Lookin good! Balanced, but top end at virtually everything!

  8. Clyde Prompto says:
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    BREAKING NEWS: Dallas PG Raymond Felton slipped in a puddle of Red Eye Gravy and sprained his ankle. Adjust your top 10 accordingly.

      • Clyde Prompto says:
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        @DK: Nelson can’t come close to replacing Felton in my league because we use truffle shuffles as a category..

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Clyde Prompto: Hahahaha. What did the Raymond Felton say to the snack machine? “Baaaaaaaaaby Ruth!”

  9. Phranque says:
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    Hi guys,
    You really have become indispensable in setting up my “grand strategy” of drafting this season. I’ve changed leagues and the new league has ASST/TO for a CAT rather than just TOs. It seems that this newer CAT may be a better indicator of a PG’s value than just TOs. In comparing these CATs, do you guys have a view as to which is a “better” evaluator? And…how should I attack and prep for this newer CAT in my “grand strategy”….(we’re talking serious delusions of grandeur, to call it “grand”). Thanks.
    Phranque (pronounced Frank…as momma intended)

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Phranque: Thanks so much man, what we’re aiming for! Sure TO is kinda an annoying stats, one thing I do like about it is it keeps the heavy streamers down a peg. I know a lot of people don’t like it since it’s hard to win 9-0, but I’m fine with it. While I like Ast:TO, that as a replacement stat (assuming Ast is a cat too), means PG are uber valuable. Still 9 cat league? Yeah you want PG early and heavy. CP would hop up to probably 4th for me behind Curry. Low TO guys will really help your bottom line too (Wesley Matthews for example. Oh, George Hill vaults up some.) Thanks for dropping by Frank, I mean Phranque!

  10. CatalinaWineMixer says:
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    Managed to get everyone on my team in the top 100, 12 team yahoo standard H2H, what do you think?

    Wake and Blake
    1. (7) Serge Ibaka (OKC – PF,C)
    2. (18) Blake Griffin (LAC – PF,C)
    3. (31) Andre Drummond (Det – PF,C)
    4. (42) Ricky Rubio (Min – PG)
    5. (55) Victor Oladipo (Orl – PG,SG)
    6. (66) Michael Carter-Williams (Phi – PG)
    7. (79) Darren Collison (Sac – PG)
    8. (90) Giannis Antetokounmpo (Mil – SG,SF)
    9. (103) Brandon Knight (Mil – PG,SG)
    10. (114) Markieff Morris (Pho – PF,C)
    11. (127) Terrence Jones (Hou – SF,PF)
    12. (138) Jodie Meeks (Det – SG)
    13. (151) John Henson (Mil – PF,C)

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @CatalinaWineMixer: Wow, going three straight bigs to end up with enough PG depth like that?! LOVE IT! TO & FT% might be issues, maybe a tad behind with 3s if you didn’t stream anyone (but no issues there from me, you’ll be able to cycle some 3s in and out), but other than that, very very strong team. MCW 66 shouldn’t happen.

      • CatalinaWineMixer says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks, it was hard for me to pass on Blake and then Drummond was there and I am from Detroit so a homer pick and got lucky with those PGs still there. Keep up the great writeups!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @CatalinaWineMixer: Keep up the awesome commenter name! 🙂

  11. Clyde Prompto says:
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    I’m not one to pick on those less fortunate, but I was perusing CBS’ fantasy basketball content and it was…interesting. In their expert mock for a standard H2H league, The Brow went 10th overall and Ibaka went 57th! I literally yelled at my computer and probably made my girlfriend question her life choices.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Clyde Prompto: Hahaha, such bad CBS life choices!

  12. DK says:
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    Bradley Beal most likely out 6-8 weeks with broken wrist.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @DK: YIKES! DK = the Razzball news breaker

  13. CTMN says:
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    Can you guys review my draft in comments/on a podcast?
    I already had a league for money with my friends but I got into a 2nd one with some other friends, just for fun. Since its just for fun i took some more risks but the team looks great.
    It was 10 team H2H, 8 cat – but fg% and ft% were replaced by fg made and ft made. I tried to adjust a bit to that. They also had 17 player roster, 2 PGs, 2 SGs, 2 SFs, 1 G, 1 F, 1 PF, 2 Cs, 2 utilities, 4 bench. I had the 4th pick.

    I’ll give you some explanations for my picks…

    1. Harden (4th overall) – i could have picked AD but i was kinda scared of the injuries and i figured Harden’s better for the FG made and FT made. Anyway, it helped me cuz i didn’t get much points later but i got enough blocks, i think.
    2. Lowry (17) – I wanted a PG and I felt there were more good big men than good PGs in the middle rounds, i think i was right.
    3. Drummond (24) – i would’ve picked Millsap or Horford but his trade value is much higher to guys in this league and there’s no FT% as i said.
    4. Vucevic (37) – he was actually my 2nd choice, i meant to take someone else (i forget who) but the computer froze, but still solid.
    5. Rubio (44) – love him with or without fg% but without it he’s better, although fg and ft made will struggle. But thats why I picked Harden.
    6. Favors (57) – Another guy i really wanted, helped my blocks a lot with no AD in the first round.
    7. MCW (64) – huge steal in a league with no TOs, FT% ir FG %, he would have been really good here anyway.
    8. Knight (77) – the scoring and 3s at this point was very useful, the assists could be decent as a SG for me.
    9. Markieff (84) – pretty ridiculous value, idk what else to say.
    10. T-Jones (97) – same idea as Markieff. Helped cover my blocks, alalthough i hate the Rockets and having 2 of them kinda pisses me off.
    11. Giannis (104) – the upside is interesting and the shaky preseason start doesn’t matter cause as i said, this league is just for fun. I would have taken him in my more serious league anyway at that point.
    12. JR Smith (117) – I didn’t really want him that much, but i think he’ll help for FG made, FT made, 3s and points.
    13. Elfrid (124) – the other guys just don’t know how good he is as a rookie, i didn’t need a PG until that point but with 17 guys i figured I’d get an extra.
    14. Reggie Jackson (137) – He should have gone earlier, i don’t think he’ll be out long with that wrist injury, and he’s good for assists as a SG for me.
    15. Draymond (144) – just gives me everything late.
    16. Henson (157) – upside, extra blocks, told you i didn’t need AD!
    17. KJ McDaniels (164) – upside and blocks/3s, solid that late IMO.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @CTMN: Cool, def will review on the POD! I’ll leave it to the airwaves 🙂

      • CTMN says:
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        @JB Gilpin: OK thanks! I sort of gave my own thoughts haha but I’d much rather hear yours.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @CTMN: Pod is up! Spoiler alert, we both liked it a ton

  14. Bambinos says:
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    I have the #2 pick. I’m leaning Brow, but should I really pass on KLBJ?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Bambinos: Def Brow! Although, who is KLBJ? Haha just messin’ 🙂

  15. Lasandro says:
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    Hey guys

    Thoughts on my team please (perhaps on the podcast even, which btw I absolutely love). 12 teamer, h2h, cats are blks (4), stls (3), o brds (3), assists (3), d brds (2), pts (1), 3s (1), pfs (-1), to (-2), 2nd pick:
    AD
    Ibaka
    Millsap
    Lawson
    MCW
    Favors
    Jennings
    Giannis
    Knight
    Stuckey

    First time playing h2h format. I understand that I’ll have to set my starting 5 every week, with no changing rosters during the week yes? So what’s the point of having AD, millsap and ibaka on my squad when I can only play two at a time (AD is C eligible of course)? My only designated SG and SF and stuckey and giannis respectively. Do I trade some of my nice bigs for a bigger name wing player? And it’s gonna be tough having to pick between lawson, BJ and MCW as they’re all solid in this league setting. Wished everyone just played roto haha. Cheers boys!

    Oh and does draymond fit this setting better than B knight or giannis? Would be happy to drop stuckey but need a SG on the roster

    • Lasandro says:
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      @jb Gilpin @slim: just dropped b knight and picked up r Jax. I’m happy with that, although I seriously wished Reggie was SG eligible so I could’ve dropped stuckey instead

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Lasandro: Def will do on the Pod, glad it’s coming out pretty good! Slim and I are feeling like it’s just us having a basketball conversation, it’s becoming pretty seamless.

      So it’s a weekly league? Usually H2H hoops is daily, plus you only start 5 a week? Def get Green! Would drop knight for him in that format. Oh just saw you got RJax, still would Green over Rjax.

      Yeah I’d trade Ibaka for a SG/SF. Ibaka should have some buzz too with KD out. We’ll review more on the Pod!

      • Lasandro says:
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        @JB Gilpin: thanks man, fantastic feedback. And can’t wait to hear your guys’ reviews on the podcast.

        Only reason I’m keeping r Jax is because I’m expecting him to be changed from a pg to a SG come start of season and I only have stuckey as my designated SG. Giannis is my only SF and if I did indeed pick up draymond, should I be dropping him to do so? Hell, giannis’ position may also change to SG, come start of season. I do like what I heard about iggy now looking to be the designated leader of the second unit

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Lasandro: Ah actually, yeah totally buying that. And Durant news keeps getting pessimistic rather than optimistic. Nah I’d hold for Giannis’ upside, I’d drop Stuckey for Green then, I know that makes RJax your only SG and is a little risky given RJax is hurt, but I’d roll the dice!

  16. JB Gilpin

    JB Gilpin says:
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    Getting to other comments in a second, BUT HOLY SHITBALLS! Durant… No!!!!! Possibly out 6-8 weeks

    • Slim

      Slim says:
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      @JB Gilpin: Uhoh. Is Durant still #1 assuming he misses all of November? I don’t have an answer to that yet…

    • Clyde Prompto says:
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      @JB Gilpin: Maaaan that blows. Hopefully the fact that he weighs about 165 actually helps in this instance. Tall dudes + foot injuries = bad news.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @CTMN: @Slim: @Clyde Prompto: It’s official, I’m going BROW #1 NOW! KD still to 2. Curry 3. Although KD/Curry is close. If I have any pick past 1 and KD falls, I’ll be ecstatic to get him. But that’s with the news we have right now, could change.

    • CTMN says:
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      @JB Gilpin: what do i do now????

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @DK: @CTMN: For me, Brow, KD, Curry, LeBron top 4

    • DK says:
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      @JB Gilpin: Ballsy news indeed. Hahah my fantasy group is in uproar now. The top 3 drafters are confused!!!

  17. DK says:
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    I was looking at Hibbert. You are putting him at 115. Is he really that bad? I mean his 2011-2012 was not bad. Now with Stephenson gone and PG injured, wouldn’t he be much better than last season? Some are pegging him at around rank 80 or so. Or he’s simply to risky to be worth round 7 or 8? 115 puts him around round 9-10.

    • Slim

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      @DK: The risk is too high for me in the 80s. In the 9th/10th and assuming I really fubar’d blocks then I would look into him. He was just so bad last year and it’s tough to believe he improves as the entire team gets worse. It isn’t impossible though so I’m good with it that late. I like Larry Sanders a little better for 2+ blocks upside in the 8th/9th.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @DK: Yup I like Sanders more too, but I know I’m probably the low man on Hibbert. He was borderline unownable after the ASB last year. Not a guy I can rank highly.

      • DK says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Here’s to hoping both Sanders and Henson get play time. Those 2 have so much upside and we barely seen them in action.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @DK: Haha well at least Larry Drew isn’t the coach anymore!

  18. DK says:
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    Kevin Durant expected to be sidelined 6-8 weeks.

    • DK says:
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      @DK: So what’s Durant’s outlook now? How does it affect his draft ranking?

      • Slim

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        @DK: I’m thinking about it. Brow maybe, Curry maybe but that would be it. I’d say 3rd overall at the absolute lowest for Durant unless the news gets worse.

        • DK says:
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          @Slim: My league is picking this coming Sunday and I am 4th pick. I have a feeling KD will drop to me as the first 3 guys will go AD, LBJ and maybe Curry. I am nervous… no KD for 2 months or maybe more.