[We’ve got the Trade Deadline Podcast up! Slim and I react to all this hooblah as this post continues to be updated – you can find the Pod the post below this one as well as that link.]
Razzball Nation!
The Trade Deadline is nigh, which is to say, soon. Can I trade the start of this open with a different one…? “Did you hear the one about how the Hawks got nothing for the broke ass of Josh Smith last trade deadline?!” Imagine the Hawks with a lottery pick as well… I guess as fortune-tellers, they knew they didn’t need anything for Smoove!
The 2015 NBA Trade Deadline will pass at 3:00 PM EST, and up until the closing moments, I’ll be updating this post as each trade moves across my virtual news desk. Fantasy spins galore! That’s the younger sister of Pussy Galore… So be sure to constantly ping that refresh like Goldfinger on Kitco! Here’s what’s gone down so far:
(12:45 PM) – Morning everyone! Just now getting up and catching up on all the news. Very unsurprisingly, Arron Afflalo has been moved to Portland and as we expected, Thomas Robinson is part of the deal. Getting into update mode!
(12:54) PORTLAND GETS: Arron Afflalo, Alonzo Gee
DENVER GETS: Thomas Robinson, Will Barton, Victor Claver, 2016 lotto-protected first-rounder
Not shocking at all. Afflalo was probably the most likely guy to get traded, and TRob bounces around more than Wreck-It Ralph on speed. It’s been suggested that the Nugs are done trading with this one, so breath a sigh of relief Wilson Chandler owners! And he’s probably a must-own with a little uptick in shots.
The return of Randy Foye! Should move into the starting SG spot, but with younguns Gary Harris and newly-acquried Will Barton vying for minutes. Foye missed a ton with a quad so he has to prove he’s healthy, but as an upside grab in 12ers I think he should be owned.
(12:58) I had some real scrub-ass streamers on both of my RCLs, and got Foye on both teams. Seems like he’s only owned in 29% of leagues due to the dead squads.
(1:04) WASHINGTON GETS: Ramon Sessions
SACREMENTO GETS: Andre Miller
Very meh trade. Swap of backup PG. Sessions should fare much better in Washington if he’s ever pressed into starting duty should anything happen to John Wall.
(1:11) PHILADELPHIA GETS: JaVale McGee, 2015 protected pick, funny YouTube video opportunities, Rights to Chu Chu Maduabum
DENVER GETS: Rights to Cenk Akyol (which sounds like an indie rock band name)
McGee might get bought out, and best-case is he plays a few minutes here and there to maybe get a few dunks to bring in a few extra fans. “Come in out of the cold, Philadelphians, we’ve got heat in the arena!”
(1:16) “Wahhhhhhhh, I’m Jarrett Jack!” Hahahahahaha.
(1:25) Tons of rumors flying around for the Goran Dragic and Reggie Jackson sweepstakes. The one that seems to have the most steam is Brooklyn getting RJax and sending Brook Lopez to OKC within a larger framework.The question is, will Brolo begin to try on the Thunder?!
(1:54) Robert Sarver sounds like a kid with the only toy at play time. “You can’t force me to share!”
(2:02) Wow, NBA teams love doing the last minute decisions! Brooklyn waiting until the last second: https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/568485235823939585
(2:05) The Heat throwing everything including the kitchen sink at Goran Dragic. Norris Cole, Josh McRoberts, Chris Andersen and two first-rounders. Might as well throw in Pat Riley’s hair gel and the 10,000 old LeBron jerseys in storage!
ESPN reporting Heat's pitch for Goran Dragic is Norris Cole, Josh McRoberts, Birdman and two first-round picks.
— Ira Winderman (@IraHeatBeat) February 19, 2015
(2:16) So I have ESPN on, and in a cut-together package previewing the NBA second half, they had some dude saying “I think the Lakers know this, and are passively tanking…” No shizz, great bold reporting ESPN!
(2:19) Philly also picked up rights to somebody named Chu Chu Maduabum. Ummmm, best name in the NBA if he ever makes it from Mongolia!
(2:21) OKC also interested in getting Enes Kanter. Hey, if they’re trying to get a non-D center, they’re looking at the right two!
Sources: OKC hasn't committed to Lopez deal, and there's still another center that they've had talks about acquiring: Utah's Enes Kanter.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(2:32) Ummmmm, so the Pistons are unhappy with how good D.J. Augustin has been?! At least waiving Josh Smith gives them some cap room…
Another team in hot pursuit of OKC's Reggie Jackson, league source tells Yahoo Sports: The Detroit Pistons.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(2:33) Not too promising for a Wolves trade. KG deal might end up stalling out, and sadly might not see my Kevin Seraphin going up north and starting…
Thad young, chase Budinger, Gary Neal all at practice, for whatever that's worth
— Jon Krawczynski (@APkrawczynski) February 19, 2015
(2:35) Oops, NEVERMIND!
Source: Kevin Garnett agrees to trade, will go home to Minnesota for Thaddeus Young.
— David Aldridge (@daldridgetnt) February 19, 2015
(2:38) Seems pretty official:
MINNESOTA GETS: Kevin Garnett
BROOKLYN GETS: Thaddeus Young
Might be some picks and money involved, but Thad moving to Brooklyn should be a nice boost in value. They need some PF O and I think he could be much better in a new situation. KG is obviously still an ignore, Flip wants him to help mentor.
Opens up some big upside for the Dieng Train! Choo choo! Let’s just hope Gorgui Dieng starts next to Nikola Pekovic and Flip doesn’t start the schlub Anthony Bennett. Be sure Dieng is owned in your league(s).
(2:47) WHHHHHOOOOAAAAAAA!
Oklahoma City has traded Reggie Jackson to Detroit, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(2:48) Damn, wow looks like both big-name PG have been dealt:
Phoenix is finalizing a deal to send Goran Dragic to the Miami Heat, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(2:49) So D.J. Augustin is likely droppable in all leagues. Maybe gives you one more start tomorrow night against the Bulls.
(2:50) I would still probably Foye over Gerald Green, who now is looking at big minutes again with Dragic gone as mentioned this morning.
(2:52) And like Foye, Green was owned in 57% of leagues but was available in both of my RCLs. Lots of dead data there! Also helps I still had streamer garbage left over from last week’s shortened schedule to drop.
(2:55) Looks like Enes Kanter is heading to OKC. Another situation where a better defender will play behind him and probably is more deserving of minutes…
Utah is finalizing a deal to send Enes Kanter to Oklahoma City, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(2:57) So it looks like a 3-team deal between OKC, UTA, and DET in the RJax move. Kendrick Perkins to Utah. Kyle Singler to OKC.
(2:58) … And might be a lot more players involved in this!
This could be a giant deal going down, more teams, more players.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(2:59) Even with Dwyane Wade hurt all the time, Dragic to Miami would make Mario Chalmers unownable in most leagues.
(3:00) WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Milwaukee has traded guard Brandon Knight to Phoenix, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(3:01) Well, I’ll be watching less Bucks… Terrible blow to Knight’s value, but still should be solid. Isaiah Thomas doesn’t get the big boost we expected, unless maybe he was moved too.
(3:02) Craziest deadline ever! Why did I pick this one to do a live post?!?!?!?! MCW moved, Isaiah Thomas to Boston check that Philly check that again Boston!! This flip flopped a while…
(3:04) KJ gone.
Philadelphia has traded K.J. McDaniels to Houston for Isaiah Canaan and a second round pick, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(3:07) Brandon Knight and Eric Bledsoe together should be mad fun to watch.
(3:10) MCW to Milwaukee, I guess efficiency wasn’t a need. We’re about to start the podcast so updates will be a little slower…
(3:11) DJ will head to Thunder to be backup.
(3:13) So Bucks get all this for Knight, still don’t get it though…
Sources: As part of Brandon Knight trade, Milwaukee gets Michael Carter-Williams, Tyler Ennis and Miles Plumlee.
— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) February 19, 2015
(3:20) I’ll just update everything after the Pod we’re recording.
(3:35) So we’re recording the Pod, and Isaiah Canaan might be the pickup of the day. Possible starting PG for Philly ROS.
(4:03) Podcast is recorded! Putting it together to get posted soon, and while it’s loading will begin to update all these trades.
PHOENIX GETS: Brandon Knight, Marcus Thornton
MILWAUKEE GETS: Michael Carter-Williams, Miles Plumlee, Tyler Ennis
BOSTON GETS: Isaiah Thomas
PHILADELPHIA GETS: Top-5 protected pick
Actually a nice pickup from the Sixers! Is MCW a long-term guy worth a 5-10 NBA draft pick value?
So let’s start with my bf Knight. Ya know, I at first was mad at seeing this move, but the more I’ve thought about it Knight+Bledsoe should be a really fun combo and it’s not like Knight was averaging a ton of dimes as the only facilitator on Milwaukee. I think it could help him get a little more minutes as well – a little surprising he’s only at 32:27 MPG right now. Kidd kinda waffled with him, I think Hornacek runs him a tad more.
MCW to Milwaukee can only give you optimism. Worst-case scenario he’s still as inefficient as on Philly! If he was dropped by an impatient owner, go grab him even though he’ll be hurt a couple more games. Jerryd Bayless is a very interesting short-term streamer until MCW is 100%.
Boston hates Marcus Smart! Well, we’ve known that… Big boost for IT2 with consistent minutes and usage. Smart can be dropped nearly everywhere, likely moving to a bench role.
The Thornton/IT2 part was technically part of another deal, but I don’t think changes too much. The Bayou Bomber won’t be doing too much bombing. As mentioned above, grab Gerald Green where you can!
DETROIT GETS: Reggie Jackson
OKLAHOMA CITY GETS: Enes Kanter, D.J. Augustin, Kyle Singler, Steve Novak
UTAH GETS: Kendrick Perkins (to buy out), and likely some $/picks
Wooooo, RJax deal is done! Automatic top-60ish guy if not better. DJ was racking up big stats and Reggie is a better player. Obviously a must-own.
Man, actually a good return for OKC building up their second unit. Gives them a nice big man scorer off the bench in Kanter when Steven Adams is healthy. Augustin next to Dion Waiters is a pretty formidable back court especially for a second unit. But none of these bench guys need to be owned in 12ers, really only makes RJax worth owning in this move.
Other than RJax, the winner is Rudy Gobert! Woooooo! Utah gets to start their prize big! Must, must, must own. He’s right up there with the upside Hassan Whiteside for big man stats. Won’t score as much, but those D stats doe!
MIAMI GETS: Goran Dragic, Zoran Dragic
PHOENIX GETS: Danny Granger, John Salmons, Justin Hamilton, 2 lotto-protected first-rounders
NEW ORLEANS GETS: Norris Cole, Shawne Williams (likely to buy out)
The brothers Drag-i! As mentioned above, Mario Chalmers can be cut virtually everywhere and the Heat are a mad interesting team now. Obviously a nice boost for Dragic, but not enough to make him what he was last year. When Wade is healthy, he’ll suck up some usage as well…
With the Suns moving Miles Plumlee, it puts Hamilton in the mix for “who cares” C minutes with Brandon Wright. Alex Len sounds like he’s OK, so nothing too interesting there. No way Salmons or Granger pushes too much from Green’s upside now.
Ugh, so the Pels waived extra-E Toney! Hate it! So Toney Douglas is gone, making Norris Cole the backup PG. He’s not that good… But if Tyreke Evans or Eric Gordon get hurt, he could be a low end 10er kinda guy.
HOUSTON GETS: K.J. McDaniels, Pablo Prigioni
NEW YORK KNICKS: Alexey Shved
PHILADELPHIA GETS: Isaiah Canaan
As we mentioned on the Pod, probably the biggest under-the-radar name is Canaan looking at a starting role as Philly’s PG. Full tank!
To update – Philly has now signed Tim Frazier to another 10-day deal after not doing so when the first one expired. I still think Canaan starts, but gives Philly some much-needed depth.
McDaniels is likely to disappear. Corey Brewer is already playing great backup wing minutes. Sigh.
BOSTON GETS: Luigi Datome, Jonas Jerebko
DETROIT GETS: Tayshaun Prince
I think just adding this in here is about all the impact we care about.
What do you think: Foye for Jrue Holiday (injury looks bad), Mc Lemore or Meeks???
Thanks 🙂
@Lawson: Taking Foye, sadly. Then would prob take McLemore. Any time!
I’m so glad we’re done playing the ‘What If’ game.
@Slim: It can’t be done fast enough!
Going forward who do you think has the most and least value??
JJ barea
Jordan clarkson
Hollis Thompson
@Nick: Def Clarkson for most. Least… Leaning Thompson but both are tough to own with Rondo back
@JB Gilpin:
Thanks! Salary cap league so squeezing in those under 1M players is key.
Second question. Swap Rubio for w. Chandler after today’s action?
@Nick: Any time! Nah, def still want Rubio even if sal cap price is a good bit higher
@JB Gilpin:
Rubio actually comes in well under chandler’s $6,757,913
Might be able to sneak foye into the lineup without chandler.
@Nick: Oh wow! Yeah def Rubio then. Yeah Foye is pretty interesting now
The Suns would be insane to not take 2 first rounders for Dragic. The bridge has been napalmed, everyone go your separate ways!
@Clyde Prompto: The Bridge over the River Kwai! Well, I still haven’t seen it, not even sure if I spelled it right… The Bridge over River… Phoenix! Haha
@JB Gilpin: Dragic to the Heat, per Marc Stein. Goran’s H2H playoff schedule goes from 3/3/3 to 4/4/4, giddy up!
@Clyde Prompto: WHAT THE EFF PHOENIX YOU DON’T NEED KNIGHT
@Clyde Prompto: Holy shit this is the craziest deadline ever.
@Clyde Prompto: Hahahaha this has been nuts! No IT2 there now… Best deadline I’ve ever seen
@JB Gilpin: Prigioni and Schved are swapping teams, adjust your rankings accordingly.
@Clyde Prompto: Dammit! I gotta redo everything now…
If Detroit aquires Reggie my season is over. DJ has been the pickup of a lifetime.
@Nick: Ugh, yeah that would be a horrible blow to DJ pick-up-ers… Let’s hope it doesn’t happen
@JB Gilpin:
Well, fun train while it lasted.
@Nick: Yup, rough blow to DJ owners
@Nick: imagine if you traded for him thinking he was going to hold value rest of season… I mean if you own you can just rationsalise that you somehow knew this run would end sooner or later but if you traded for him thinking it would continue (as I was very close to doing) you’d be feeling some bitter ass buyer’s remorse in the here and now
@TONY STARKS: I’m a little surprised as well, I thought DJ would be pretty solid! Obviously not what he was doing, but still must-own
Whats the out look for Plumlee with all the movement from Broooklyn?
@Bgrizzle: Thad starting at the 4 and no brolo trade is no bueno. Definitely a fairly big hit
RJAX to DET, JB!
@Dante Green: Wooooo! Hope you grabbed him!
@JB Gilpin: i did! Was able grab him right away! Damn! That’s a perfect scenario for him, going to Det! Hah
@Dante Green: Woooooo! #winning for a nice old reference…
@JB Gilpin: woooo! Helping out a friend upgrade his roster, dropping smart! Who to pick up tho?(aside from rjax) thanks brotha!
#tradedeadlinegotmelikeWTF
@Dante Green: Haha, umm I like Canaan for sure as an upside pickup, both those SG Foye and Green are now interesting. #Gotmetoo!
This is way too much to take in.
@Slim: @Slim: Boy if I had a nickel for every time I’ve heard THAT one.
@Clyde Prompto: @Slim: Hahahaha
jesus christ,i’m having trouble keeping up with this madness!
@dan-o1: Haha imagine trying to do a live post AND podcast! Hahahaha
DEFINITELY A WILD TRADE DEADLINE SO FAR.
@Fitz Ignacio: Given it’s only my 3rd at Razzball, but it’s prob bigger than the last 2 combined!
JB and Slim-
Fuck milwaukee! With all the news,
1) knight for IT3?
2) knight for Dragic?
3) drop Jrue for Galloway? Or any other guard you think isn’t owned in a 10-teamer?
Shit so many moving pieces.
@Shaft: also holiday for rjax?
@Shaft: I know right?! I don’t get the move at all! 1) Nah still Knight. 2) Moving to Dragic. 3) Yup! But Canaan! So much better than Frazier and could start, so much more upside than Galloway.
DEEFFFFFFF RJax!!!!!!
Thanks! Would you move holiday for It3 ? What abou favors for Gobert?
@Shaft: Def getting IT3 over Holiday. Mannnnn, still Favors but they’re close, if this is the same league, unless a huge PG hole I would have Gobert over IT3
Should i drop DJ Aug for Gobert noW?
@Bye Felicia:
get on that noW
@Bye Felicia: absolutely
@Bye Felicia: IMMEDIATELY!! Obviously need factors a teeny bit but Rudy will be a 10/12/2 guy ROS with upside. No one else to drop? To be fair I’m not in a rush to write off Augustin yet but admittedly don’t own him in any leagues
@Bye Felicia: Yup hope you did!
@JB Gilpin:yeah i snatched him up in 2 leagues immediately after the news hit that DJ was going to OKC. At least Jack is staying put. Losing both PG would have been a nightmare. Hopefully Deron gets hurt so Jack gets the mins ROS lol
@Bye Felicia: Hah well Jack should still get his even with Deron stuck there haha
So, I’m under the assumption that the players that involved in todays games will NOT suit up today even if they are going to one of the four teams scheduled today.
@Chicken Dinner: Yup, none of those OKC guys making them mad short-handed. But everyone should be ready for debuts tomo, at least I’d assume…
wow
so my Dragic and Knight get moved… hoping Dragic’s efficiency doesn’t go down if he’s taking more shots in Miami. Weird trade for Bucks
Does Afflalo take mins away from Wes Matthews?
best part: does Gobert get a big bump in minutes with Kanterman gone?!? They’re not really gonna play Perkins are they?
@dom: Yeah, I have Dragic and Knight too. Dragic should be fine, Knight takes a bit of a bump. Had DJA, and this hurts terribly. Also had KJ McD, and already dropped him.
Yes, Gobert gets a big bump.
@dom: @A Potamus: Wow, crazy you guys have both! But I’d be mad excited. Dragic way up, Knight lateral.
Maybe a couple minutes gone for Matthews, but very marginal.
HUGE upgrade for Gobert. I would say less a bump and more a rocket launch! Very excited. No Perkins will be bought out.
@JB Gilpin: my faith in stifle tower pays off! Need some out of position blocks and my roto league is won. KJ McDaniels?
@dom: Nice! Ehhhh, I dunno if he gets minutes. Brewer playing great backup wing behind both Harden and Ariza that are high MPG guys.
Canaan over smart ?
@Matlock: I made the move
@Matlock: Yup!
In a pts league do you like Foye over Marcus Smart? I keep waiting for the kid gloves to come off but the C’s continue to bring him along slowly and the move for IT2 signifies to me that his value will likely be limited RoS
@TONY STARKS: Yup I think Smart is back to the bench. Gimme Foye!
Holy Moly!! The manic deadline continues
Augustin to OKC
@TONY STARKS: Hah it certainly was a fun afternoon to be doing a live post and podcast!
Here’s my team
Dragic
Carter-Williams
Calderon
Norris Cole (just dropped Smart for him)
Jrue Holiday (dropping him for Nurkic)
Danny Green
Draymond Green
DeRozan
Noah
Vucevic
Al Jefferson
Markieff morris
Jordan Hill
Len
I’m hoping I can get Nurkic off waivers. I’m in a deep 12 team H2H league and I’m in the 5th playoff spot right now. I’m hoping I get Nurkic and then can trade a big for a guard that shoots 3.
@TheMuppetManiac:
And I have Jimmy Butler.
@TheMuppetManiac: Yeah I’m good dropping Jrue for NUrk, but not big on Cole. Don’t think he’d do much. Canaan avail?
@JB Gilpin:
No, he was picked up already. I am working on a deal for Mike Conley though.
@TheMuppetManiac: Wow, active league fo sho! Nice I think Conley is a good buy low
So… I just dropped DJ and Holiday,
How do you rank these ww?
Foye > Mo Will > Canaan > GGreen
Btw there are also Calderon, Galloway in ww if theyre factors.
Thanks for the update!
@Tsilaeri:
Norris Cole also available.
And “>”was supposed to mean “,”
@Tsilaeri: Haha. Gimme Mo Will and I think I’d go Canaan to see what happens. Foye and Green are both very interesting too, if you needed more pts/3s upside I might get Green over Canaan. Galloway is close too. So many options! Why I’d go Canaan first, I think the most upside.
Are you sure Thomas is going to Philly? Rotoworld has Boston.
Man, what a nightmare for the waiver wire in shallow leagues. My team took a hit with this deadline, but being in a deep league, there’s really not much I can do about it – I did pick up Canaan (thanks for the heads up).
@A Potamus: It was first Boston, then Philly, then a report was it’s one of the two, then finally reported Bos. Haha.
Yeah it was a hectic as shit deadline! Nice grab of Canaan!
Got offered Brandon Knight and Parsons for Lillard, any thoughts?
@Connor: Nahhhhh I’d hold Lillard
Got offered Teague for my RJax. Should I accept?
@manosun16: Whewwwwwwwwwww. Now that’s a mammoth decision. I’m leaning I would take Teague but that’s mad mad mad close
Fuck…….. would you guys drop DJ for cannan?? I grabbed foye already n my other bench guys other than foye are nurkic an galloway. DJ was a starter for me but I’m guessing he’s going to be useless now unless Westbrook gets inj.
@tom: Yup I would. Very useless, Canaan great upside. F indeed with all these trades!
JB, now that the dust appears to have cleared; I am sitting on (not literally of course) an injured Jrue.
Here are the possible adds: Elfrid, Foye, Cannan, Galloway, George, KCP, McLemore.
My biggest needs are Treys and PTS and I could potentially gain ground and/or defend it in STL and AST.
What a whirlwind!
@OldMilwaukeePounders: Yup Jrue is def gone. Those first 3 seem to hit the needs well. I think I’ll lean Canaan actually, usually would go Elfrid, but his big boosts aren’t the needs. Canaan has a good shot to score a good bit and hit treys.
@JB Gilpin: Thanks my man. Adding both RJax and Canaan may be just what my team needs to push towards first.
@OldMilwaukeePounders: Whoa, yeah big haul off the wire!
@JB Gilpin: Was able to add Foye and Canaan in my other main league, it paid off to be the only guy paying attention today I guess. Nice pulls on Foye and Green yourself. Green was owned in every league I am in somehow. Would have never guessed it.
@OldMilwaukeePounders: Awesome man! Yeah I was surprised Green wasn’t owned in at least one of them… I think the RCLs I’m in are fairly active, but Green had little upside before all the moves, and helped I was adding right when news was breaking haha
Ayo Razz Nation!!
Who do you guys think I should stick with till the home stretch?
Joe Johnson v. Thaddeus Young v. Wilson Chandler
@Sneaky Pete: Hectic day man, what’s good?!
Gimme Thad!
my team is: Rubio, brandon knight, harden, thad young, dray green, parsons, gortat, sullinger, lopez, AD, isiah, mason plum, kemba.
SHould i drop mason plumlee for canaan??
@mak: and should i still hold onto sullinger? currently 1st in a 10 team league.
@mak: Yeah I mean I think you’re pretty good in both areas and Plum takes a hit with Thad coming. I’d take Canaan and I would hold Sully
@mak: Oops, did not see that Sully update catching up with all the trades! Nah he can go
@JB Gilpin: dope. thanks for the advice. also who should i pick up for sully? thers nurkic, brandon bass, tyler zeller and kelly olynk sittin on the wire?
@mak: Ohhhhhh def gimme dat Nurk! Excited for his 2nd half
Hey JB!
Busy day today. Could you help me rank the following in the order in which you would pickup?
Hardaway, Foye, Gerald Green, Meeks
Thanks!
Mike
@Mike: Yeah man, it was nuts! I would go Green, Foye, Meeks, Hardaway. I think I said Foye over Green above, but I think Green is a tad more interesting. Any time!
Hey fellas,
I’m tied for 1st in 12-team, 9-cat Roto DYNASTY League with only one guy on my tail. Today was the trade deadline I’ve been waiting for! Take a look at my team below and let me know two things?
1) Should I make one more deal, mortgaging some depth to assure win this year?
2) Which in the hell 11 guys do I start each week? Like, who would you call my Top 11? Good problem to have!
11 starters (PG, SG, SF, PF, C, C, G, F, UTIL, UTIL, UTIL)
PGs: Conely, Teague, G. Hill, RJax,
SGs: Harden, Wiggins
SFs: Dray Green, Thad Young, James Johnson, Aaron Gordon
PF/Cs: Horford, Duncan, Gobert, Dieng, Nurkic, Kanter, Ryan Anderson, T. Jones*
IR: Embiid*
Thanks a ton!
@jon: Damn, sick team! 1 – Depends on what kinda offers you could get, I think Kanter might be a good name to move after his first couple OKC games. People might forget about Adams who will be back to take minutes. Sheesh unreal bigs!
2 – Locks are Conley, Teague, Rjax, Harden, Wiggins, Dray, Thad, Horf, Duncan, Gobert, Dieng and I was gonna say Nurk but that’s 12! I think that’s your main 11. Any time!
@JB Gilpin: Thanks, bro! You thing Wiggins even with K-Mart, ‘Bazz and co. gumming up the works? How many mins you think he gets in the new setup there?
@jon: Yeah I think so, he should still be a 34ish minute guy. But if you needed more dimes or boards, I could see swapping him out for Hill or Nurk depending on the matchup
With news of Sullinger out at least 3 weeks, should i drop Canaan or Foye for Ollynk, Bass, or Zeller?
Thanks!
@YOho: Hmmm, good one. Depends on if you have a big man need vs pts/3s from Foye who I think is the drop. Leaning no I wouldn’t but close, would prob go for Bass I think first…
What a crazy day!
I grabbed Miles Plumlee dropping Chalmers, but missed on Canaan.. Bugger.
I’m in need of assists and rebounds – how would you rate the following ROS? I’m in 8 cat Roto
Plumlee, Foye or Gerald Green
Thanks!
@Lee: Yeah man fo real! Eeesh sucks you missed that Canaan. Given needs, Foye, Green, Plum. Dunno if PLum gets too many minutes, Foye should be best assister. Any time!
@JB Gilpin: thanks!
I just traded Dragic for Carroll and Noel last week and felt like a complete genius pulling off that trade. In hindsight, I fee like a complete idiot. HAHA!
Who should I target amongst these guards?:
Teague
Conley
Lowry
I’m looking to traade Draymond Green forany of them.
@Loler: no u didnt!
@Loler: Ugh yikes! Well, Dragic still won’t be 13-14 Dragic though… I’d def take Lowry for him. The other two… I’d go Teague over Conley these days with Conley struggling to play hurt, but might need a throw in
Rough day for me, DJ traded and sully out for a few weeks. Thoughts on dropping sully? And also who would you rate higher out of Beal and Collison? Im going to try throw a couple of trade offers out for a big but id prefer to keep the better player if possible haha
Cheers mate
@Dally: Ugh tough blows… Yeah I’d prob drop Sully. I’d take Colly over Beal. PG stats a little more desirable than the 3s, plus Beal’s stress reaction thing is scary. Cheers!
@JB Gilpin: sweet thanks JB ill stick with colly. Someone is keen to trade ibaka for a couple of my guards (which i can stand to lose), you think serge is a gd add? I’m hoping his boards pick up a bit but not sure with kanter coming in. Appreciate any thoughts, thanks again!
@Dally: Yeah I like Serge, no steals/blocks/assists tonight but the Mavs taking a lot of jumpers. Still killing %s and Pts/Reb, might go 20/20!
Dieng or Noel rest of the season?
thx
@Jay: I’d take Dieng with Thad gone
So I’ve been busy at work all day and have not yet seen anything regarding the deadline. Did I miss anything, lol?
I guess I’ll read through your post to get caught up…
@A Hill O’ Beans: Haha nah… Tayshaun Prince is back to the Pistons! Probably the highlight trade…
@JB Gilpin: I see that despite all that went on there was zero effect to my REL team, and only DJ effected on my RCL team. I did miss out on getting any pickups in the RCL though…….hmmm, maybe I can still grab Prince there…
@A Hill O’ Beans: I’d be surprised if Prince is available anywhere, easy top-30 guy ROS 🙂
Yeah only big REL change for me is Knight, and I don’t think his value takes too much a hit. Oh, Wilson Chandler staying in Denver with Afflalo’s shot gone makes that not a dumb trade a bit ago
What to do with the Plumlee brother in Brooklyn
Im in a 16 team keeper points league…12 per team.
Hold or drop?
Canoon or Tony Snell for the pick up?
@DanThePoorMetFan: Def a down arrow. I would get Canaan for him.
Awesome awesome post AND pod guys!!
14cat roto, in order please:
Guards: Mo will (till Kemba’s back), g hill, Canaan
Bigs (Obrd, %, D stat needs): Noel (any uptick with MCW departure?), TT, gortat, bogut, nurk
Think Wilson now puts up similar numbers to last season, like 17/6 with solid 3s? Because that’d seem must own in even my shallow 8-teamer
@jb Gilpin: and a day after I trade drum and millsap for wall and sully, the big Celtic goes down 🙁 now I’m in a roto, so not sure if dudes a drop. And with me now having wall, Rubio and Ty to help me climb up asts, do I drop my GHill for any if the bigs I listed above? I’ve got a good lead in all brds but I may be caught in O brds in, say 2-3wks. If sully comes back by then, I’ll prob be fine streaming that G Hill spot for whomever… I know you like Noel and Nurk, but boy howdy am I intrigued about what Mo will can do the next couple of weeks ha
@Lasandro: Thanks man! Yeah I feel like we had a really good draft day coverage this year…
Guards I like your order. Bigs I’d go Nurk, Nowl, Gortat Bogut TT.
Yeah Wilson should be solid, a lot more shots his way. That sounds like a great projection.
Ughhhhh, yeah that Sully injury blows, luckily he wasn’t the main haul. I’d take Nurk over Sully and keep Hill there
@jb Gilpin: ooh you see sully as a drop even in roto, without a timetable being released yet? I mean, if he’s back in two weeks or so, I think I’ll be fine maintaining my lead and all. Or do you just think that nurk is gonna have such a massive second half? I watch all his games and he’s got real fouling issues. What do you think his line will be ROS from here on?
For 3s and scoring, who between g hill, mo will and Wilson do u like?
@Lasandro: Well a shallow league with good options, yup I do. More how much I like Nurk. He had a stretch where he didn’t have foul trouble so I don’t think he’ll battle that every night.
Right now, Mo Will. He should do enough long enough to be the guy
@jb Gilpin: sorry I meant do you still think Nurk is the better of the two?
@jb Gilpin: Noel had a solid game today.. Still think he’s the better scoring dub-dub potential with d stats between he and Nurk? They’re both bloody close in my eyes aahh! Even tho there’s been no update on sully you’re right in saying that I should cut bait.. Didn’t even get a game outta him after I traded for the dude 🙁
@jb Gilpin: decision’s been made for me – Noel just got picked up by someone so I dropped sully for nurk. Fingers crossed haha! Would be hilarious if a report came out tomorrow that sully is all good
How about j hill? Had a good yet inefficient game yesterday and his scoring upside with decent %s seems higher than nurk’s yeah? And he humps the O brds hard too, which I need
The great Mo Will experiment begins today!!
@Lasandro: Hah yeah well in the REL I traded for Wroten, got a nice (for what my team needed) couple weeks then he tears his ACL. Hate when trades go that way…
Woooo Nurk! Yeah Noel looked good though, I feel like I had to fight for him all yr. Still Nurk over Hill right now.
Let’s go Mo!
noooooo!! brandon knight or IT2 ? iim concerned over knights playoff sched
@patrick: Yeah 3/3/3 for Suns vs. 4/4/4… Still, Knight is so much better I think I’d rather Knight. No lock the Celtics don’t run IT2 as 6th man by then to try and develop Smart, I don’t trust Boston to do anything right…
Hey guys,
what a crazy last minute trade!!
1. what do you think about getting Green for Brewer? concerned KJ might take away Brewer’s value.
2. Foye for Ginobili?
3. How likely do you think Kemba returns by mar 16th? is he worth stashing right now?
THanks!!!
@Abulldogs:
should I pick up Foye for Kemba? Not sure if he can keep mar 16 return date.
@Abulldogs: Trade deadline was nuts! 1. Sure, yeah with the upside of PT for Green I’d take Gerald. 2. Ehhhh leaning Ginobili but very meh. Foye with so much more upside if thinking more long-term/stash 3. Nah I’m not too huge on it, I think Mo plays well and Kemba takes it slow, I’d say 33%
I’d prob take Foye unless a lock for #1 seed in playoffs
@JB Gilpin:
If guaranteed #1 seed in playoff, would you stash Kemba?
@Abulldogs: Yeah I think so in that situation
dropped sully for bass,yay or nay?
you guys think norris cole can carve out some numbers in nola. i dropped jrue for him in one of my leagues?
@dan-o1: I wish there was a tad more clarity, I think if not a #1 or 2 seed, yay. Ehhhh, “some” minutes sure but I dunno if does much, needs an injury
@JB Gilpin: thank you
What are your thoughts on dropping Galloway or Augustin in favor of Canaan? It just feels wrong, Espn shows that Canaan is owned in 0.0% of leagues.
And man oh man was this a crazy deadline. My Cs just got a lot better. Not great or even good, but better. The Dj trade Def hurt, but I expect the series of trades to boost Dieng, Dragic, and Whiteside’s values.
@Ryan: oh yea I’m asking about a deeper league. I’m also a little out of the loop because I sat through 10 hours of lectures today.. Are there any better alternatives for guard stats that emerged this deadline. Some must own guys like Foye and G Green were already owned even before the trade.
@Ryan: Haha well ESPN is slow, Canaan from 315-330 went from 2-4% owned on Yahoo and now is 19%. Def taking him over Augustin. I dunno about much of a change for Whiteside, but yeah those other two big thumbs up!
10 hours of lecture?!?!?!?! Ughhhhhh haha. Short-term Bayless with MCW hurt a few more games. Norris Cole is a stash since Eric Gordon and Evans are both injury concerns. I think Shved plays some decent minutes on NYK but they’re all low low end
My Greg Monroe for his Blake Griffin? It’s a 10 man h2h pts. What do you think
@Nikko: Definitely! I know Monroe has been playing well in Pts but I trust Griffin more who had a nice update
Hey guys, what a crazy deadline. I picked up Len and Olnyk just before the break because some owners were impatient with their respective injuries and dropped them. This made my team big heavy/guard light. For big men I have Jefferson, Drummond, Thad, Jordan Hill, West, Amir, Mason Plumlee, and the aforementioned Len and Olnyk. (We roster 15 and start 11 daily. 12 team HTH with 13 Cats including OREB DREB and TREB.) Foye is available but I’m not sure who I should drop. I was thinking Olnyk but with Sully’s news his stock is on the rise plus his ability to hit 3’s as a big man helps my team’s balance. Don’t know if I’ll need Len’s blocks with all these big men so he’s an option, too. Thad moving to BKN hurts Plumlee but with BLo’s injury history, I’m hesitant to drop him and I’m already punting FT’s with Drummond on this team so Plumlee is all upside for me. Amir is an option, too, as he hasn’t been as solid as I thought he would be. So, is Foye good enough to drop any of these guys and, if so, who?
TL:DR Drop Olnyk, Len, Mason Plumlee, or Amir for Foye?
@James: Yeah man, it was nuts! Wow yeah that league is def aimed to be heavy on bigs as it is. Def having trouble figuring out who, if any I’d drop for Foye. It’d prob be Plumlee, but like you said he’s more a stash for you, and in more cats his FT% isn’t as big an issue. I think I’d stand pat and just own the boards.
Better add, isaiah canaan or mo williams?
@yan yala: Def going Mo Will
Which center would you rather have?
Enes Kanter, Amir Johnson, Jason Smith
@Phreek: Hmmmm, that’s a toughie… I’ll lean Amir, but I know he’s no-upside boring…
After today, rather have Rubio or rjax?
@Nick: Still Rubio