I know, I know, we’re a little behind the 8-ball here.  YOU CAN’T RUSH MATH!  I think that’s something Russell Crowe yelled in A Beautiful Mind.  I actually just watched some of that the other day, and I swear his douchiness was the inspiration behind Sheldon in The Big Bang Theory.  Speaking of nerds, here’s a fully functional spreadsheet, sortable by Slim’s projection for the upcoming season!  They’re still sorted by my ranks, so obviously the projections have a little give-and-take with Slim’s thoughts vs. mine.  All you gotta do is click the category you want to sort by, and whizzbang!  Stats sorted by each cat are at your fingertips.  Including by age!  We all know how age-ist Slim is…  Big shout out to Rudy for helping us get these together!  Here’s our 2016-17 Razzball Top 200 Projections for the upcoming Fantasy Basketball Season:

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Stephen Curry GS 33 PG/SG 0.495 0.900 4.2 27.5 4.7 6.9 2.0 0.2 3.1 32 My frequently used soundbyte now – Durant is a phenomenal player, Curry is a transcendent player. Curry will also be taking the ball up the court more. 3s with the FG% and the rest of the package keep him #1.
James Harden BKN 31 PG/SG/SF 0.440 0.865 3.0 29.5 6.0 7.3 1.7 0.6 4.4 38 D’Antoni?! Sign me up! TO will be out of control again, but so will the Pts/Ast as well as the flops for FT.
Russell Westbrook WAS 32 PG 0.435 0.820 1.4 28.5 8.1 9.7 2.1 0.2 4.4 34 Yup, with the contract solidified since I did the original top-10 article, I’m now flipping Westy to my 3rd besty. Crazy USG, will need to punt-TO and either punt or fix FG%.
Kevin Durant BKN 32 SF/PF 0.520 0.880 2.2 25.5 6.8 4.8 1.0 1.0 2.9 32 These top 4 are so razor close that I have some major chafing going on. I still expect Durant to be amazing, it’s just we have 4 amazing players.
Karl-Anthony Towns MIN 25 C 0.540 0.800 0.6 21.0 11.0 3.0 0.8 1.9 2.4 36 Along with all the normal sexiness (Pts/FG%/Reb/Blk), he upped his Ast from 1.4 to 3.0 pre and post ASB in his rookie season. He’s unreal.
Chris Paul PHO 36 PG 0.465 0.880 1.8 19.0 4.1 10.2 1.9 0.1 2.4 32 After a rough start due in part to some early injuries, finished the bulk of the year going 20.3/4.4/10.5/2.1/0.2 with 2.6 TO and 46.4% shooting with 1.8 treys from his 17th game on. Another year fully entrenched as a first rounder.
Giannis Antetokounmpo MIL 26 PG/SG/SF 0.495 0.735 0.7 19.0 8.4 7.2 1.4 1.6 2.8 36 Over the last 26 games, Greek Freak went 18.8/8.4/7.5/1.5/1.9. Insanity! Shot 51.5% too. With Middleton gone, it adds more offensive onus on The Alphabet. I think it spells #8 value!
Hassan Whiteside SAC 32 C 0.600 0.730 0.0 19.5 14.0 0.5 0.7 3.5 1.9 32 Final 37 games, 3.9-5.4 FT good for 73.2%. On top of leading the league in blocks, if he hits his FT, he’s easily gonna be a first rounder. And no, this rank isn’t under the duress of an elbow to the noggin.
Anthony Davis LAL 28 PF/C 0.505 0.780 0.7 23.5 10.1 1.8 1.3 2.4 1.9 34 If we knew Brow would play 75+ games I migggghhhht lean him over KAT, but we all know the risk. GET THE PELS NEW MEDICAL PEOPLE! Luckily it sounds like this kankle he got in preseason won’t cost him any time in the regular season, but man is it foreboding…
Kawhi Leonard LAC 30 SG/SF 0.500 0.835 1.8 21.5 7.2 2.7 1.8 1.0 1.6 34 The metrics love him, most people agree maybe a smidge too much, and he still gets a little docked for not playing 80 games. But the multicat, huge steals, and great FG% improvement with more 3s can’t be overlooked.
LeBron James LAL 36 SF/PF 0.525 0.730 1.2 25.0 7.3 6.7 1.3 0.6 3.1 36 I feel like his dominant playoff run is clouding some judgment, as the Cavs are gonna coast harder than Usian Bolt in Olympic qualifiers. No need to push Bron, and the Cavs end with 3 games in the H2H semis and 4 in the finals, with back-to-backs in both. Might only get 4-5 games the pivotal final two weeks.
Kyle Lowry TOR 35 PG 0.425 0.810 2.5 20.5 4.5 6.6 1.6 0.2 2.8 36 Career highs in 3s, FT volume and minutes that have me believing he can be a rock. ‘Welcome to The Rock!’ [in Sean Connery’s voice]
John Wall HOU 30 PG 0.425 0.790 1.4 20.0 5.1 10.5 1.8 0.7 3.8 36 Slim hates me for having Lowry ahead, these two are pretty close to a coin flip. Not liking the bad FG% for a low-3s guy or the FT trending down last 3 seasons.
Paul Millsap DEN 36 SF/PF 0.470 0.760 1.0 18.0 9.2 3.4 1.6 1.2 2.3 32 More perimeter touches with Dwight clogging the lane, such an underrated commodity.
Paul George LAC 31 SG/SF 0.415 0.850 2.3 22.5 6.8 3.8 1.8 0.3 3.0 34 Hard not to root for the guy bouncing back from the bad injury; played 81 games last year, set a huge career best in FT volume, and this is going to be a ridiculously paced team. Living up to the IND name!
DeMarcus Cousins HOU 30 PF/C 0.460 0.730 1.0 27.0 12.1 3.6 1.5 1.4 4.0 34 Missed 40 games the past two seasons, FT% came crumbling down around a huge volume, and without Rondo, look for Boogie to turn it over like the good ol’ days as well. Not close to a first-rounder for me anymore.
Draymond Green GS 31 SF/PF 0.485 0.710 1.1 12.5 9.8 6.7 1.6 1.4 2.8 34 Takes a slight nudge down to the nards with the GSW Dream Team assemblage, but he should still be the same #Occupy we know and love, but could no longer bear children with…
Kemba Walker BOS 31 PG 0.425 0.840 2.0 20.0 4.1 5.2 1.6 0.5 2.2 36 Breakout season from the Huskie, boosted the FG%, boosted the FT volume, and brings a very interesting skill set for only 2ish TO per.
Damian Lillard POR 31 PG 0.425 0.880 3.2 25.5 4.0 6.6 1.0 0.3 3.1 36 I really hate the lack of steals and the high TO when compared to Kemba. I can make up the other stats on ThrAGNOF!
DeAndre Jordan BKN 33 C 0.700 0.430 0.0 12.0 13.5 1.0 0.7 2.2 1.3 34 4/5/3 playoff sched from a guy that almost never misses games. FT-punt is giving me a lot more interest after seeing DJ came out at 3rd overall when you take out FT% last year. Two cats in the bank for the quarters and semis of the H2H playoffs.
Andre Drummond CLE 27 C 0.530 0.380 0.0 17.5 14.7 0.8 1.4 1.7 2.0 34 Still emerging, love his post game, but I like DJ’s playoff sched and blocks a smidge more.
Brook Lopez MIL 33 C 0.505 0.790 0.0 20.5 7.6 1.7 0.6 1.7 2.3 32 Injury risk seems to be by the wayside, but Ol’ Clownfoot is on an ugly Nets team on a fairly-friendly contract. Got shut down last year. A trade at the deadline would hurt.
Kristaps Porzingis DAL 26 PF/C 0.445 0.825 1.6 17.0 8.5 1.5 0.8 2.3 2.0 32 The Posion Goose! Only rookie to score more than 1,000 points, grab 500-plus rebounds, make 75-plus 3-pointers and block more than a 100 shots. USG may hurt next to Melo/Rose, but he’ll still get his, and get dem swats on top of everything.
Al Horford OKC 35 PF/C 0.505 0.785 0.9 15.5 7.8 3.2 0.8 1.4 1.4 32 The way B-Rad runs rotations, I’m a little worried about the minutes being 29-30. Slim has more faith. His game is suited for a long career, but I worry about some early Boston meshing as well.
Blake Griffin DET 32 PF/C 0.505 0.730 0.2 21.5 8.2 4.7 0.8 0.5 2.3 34 Disaster 15-16, but BG is playing for a contract (he’ll likely get max either way, but ya know) and I think bounces back fine, as long as you’re not on the Clip staff and clown him at dinner.
Eric Bledsoe NO 31 PG/SG 0.445 0.800 1.4 19.5 4.2 6.0 1.6 0.5 3.4 32 Was looking great with my high rank of him last year, but those effin injuries… Risky, but did play 81 games sandwiched between the injury-plagued seasons. Had the meniscus surgery that takes longer to recover from so you can play at peak level, so I still see that big upside there.
Jimmy Butler MIA 31 SG/SF 0.460 0.830 1.0 18.5 5.3 5.8 1.6 0.5 2.0 36 67 games or fewer in the past 3 seasons, and now has USG hogs Wade and Rondo to ruin possessions rather than Rose. 2 is worse than 1… Still should be his team and a solid value though.
Victor Oladipo HOU 29 PG/SG 0.450 0.825 1.5 19.0 5.1 4.2 1.8 0.8 2.6 36 I’m warming more and more on the player, but I really don’t love this situation. I’m confused as to why changing your running mate from Elfrid Payton to Westbrook is a GOOD thing, and not like OKC is too shabby compared to ORL everywhere else. I don’t trust the 3s and I think he could be overdrafted.
Kyrie Irving BKN 29 PG/SG 0.455 0.870 1.8 20.5 3.1 5.1 1.2 0.3 2.4 34 Looking at 15-16 seasonal numbers might be a turnoff, but he was eased in off the knee injury. Post-ASB and that final Finals shot is a turn ON though! What can Uncle Drew do for YOU?!
Rudy Gobert UTA 29 C 0.580 0.600 0.0 10.5 11.3 1.6 0.8 2.5 1.8 32 Monsieur Elbow was Le Poo last year, that’s for sure! FIBA ball apparently ruined his conditioning, and he tore his knee at one point. But he bounced back quick from injury – good to see for a big – and still has elite big man skills. Nice fallback FT-punt option.
LaMarcus Aldridge SA 36 PF/C 0.495 0.845 0.0 18.5 8.6 1.6 0.5 0.9 1.4 30 Slim dislikes Aldridge with a Patrick Patterson-esque fury, but LA was 9th in per-game last year the final 31 games, and scores with a big volume of great FG% with virtually no TO. Being on the old Spurs is annoying though…
Isaiah Thomas PG 0.425 0.870 2.0 21.5 2.8 6.0 1.0 0.1 2.7 32 37th overall finish last year, but mostly due to low REB and bad FG%. Makes him a beautiful fit in a punt-FT, if you loaded up on the big boys early.
Gorgui Dieng MEM 31 PF/C 0.515 0.810 0.2 12.0 7.8 2.2 1.1 1.6 1.8 30 Choo Choo! Who’s with me on the hype train?! Through games 14-82 – 10.8/7.5/2.0/1.1/1.2 with 53.9% from the field and 82.6 FT%. That was only in 28:30 MPG and not starting half those games. I think Slim is a little light on the projection with upside to play huge minutes for Tibby Tibs.
Carmelo Anthony POR 37 SF/PF 0.440 0.820 1.6 20.5 7.4 3.9 0.9 0.4 2.3 34 With the facilitating ineptitude of Rose and coming off a career high in dimes, I could see Melo be a sneaky 5.0 AST source. We know scoring will be there with bleh peripheral stats, but me likey if his name value sours his ADP too much.
Kevin Love CLE 32 PF/C 0.435 0.820 2.2 16.5 10.0 2.5 0.7 0.5 1.8 32 Small steps up in per-minute stats, Love has gone from injury-plagued first rounder to low-upside mid-rounder. Might make your leaguemates fall asleep with this pick.
Serge Ibaka LAC 31 PF/C 0.475 0.765 1.3 15.0 7.5 0.9 0.5 2.1 1.6 32 Blocks dropping, turning into a jump shooter that is hurting FG%… He was clearly out of my top-50 pre-trade, but has some great upside for an expanded offensive role in ORL.
Derrick Favors UTA 30 PF/C 0.510 0.715 0.0 16.5 8.3 1.6 1.0 1.7 1.7 32 Favors would be 10 higher if not for back-to-back seasons with back-to-back spasms. Also the blocks didn’t come along like we thought… Love his game, hate the risk.
C.J. McCollum POR 29 PG/SG 0.440 0.830 2.4 20.0 3.1 4.2 1.1 0.2 2.4 34 Yikes my anti-McCollum 15-16 calls didn’t go well! I don’t know if he has any more upside, unless he can get to 1.5+ steals.
Pau Gasol PF/C 0.480 0.795 0.2 16.0 9.5 3.4 0.4 1.6 1.9 30 Old and Spurs, go together like hangovers and carnival rides. You just have to build in a lot of regression, especially in minutes, but he can still be top-50 serviceable.
Jae Crowder PHO 31 SF/PF 0.440 0.790 1.7 14.0 5.0 1.9 1.6 0.4 1.1 32 The Boston Clam Crowder! Sexy 1.7 swipes from a forward and I don’t see a way he could finish much worse than the 32nd per-game 15-16 he had.
Klay Thompson GS 31 SG/SF 0.465 0.870 2.9 18.5 3.4 2.0 0.9 0.5 1.6 32 Takes the big hit amongst the Golden State Western All-Stars, and the D stats took a major step back last year as well. Back to being one of the NBA’s best ThrAGNOFs.
Chandler Parsons SF/PF 0.480 0.710 1.9 15.5 4.9 3.1 0.9 0.3 1.8 32 19.0/5.9/3.1/1.1/0.3 with an unreal 2.6 treys on 51.9% FG shooting his last 26 games. Yes, two straight seasons ending with knee issues, but I believe in Memphis believing in him. By the transitive property, I therefore believe in Parsons, even with the knee thing scaring me a little.
Ricky Rubio MIN 30 PG 0.380 0.830 0.9 11.0 4.5 8.9 2.1 0.1 2.7 32 Despite having constant critics (both Rubio himself AND to me, for my love for Rubio!) he played 76 games last year and had a top-50 season. Kris Dunn does look awesome, but until the Wolves finally trade Rubio, I think he’s at the end of the top-50 again.
Nikola Jokic DEN 26 PF/C 0.490 0.810 0.4 11.5 8.2 2.8 1.1 0.8 1.7 27 The love is starting to get strong for this one! In per-game/per-36 min stats, he was 13th in the NBA last year. And not like he played mop up minutes, he started a ton, just Mike Malone wouldn’t play him. Gives you a legit 9-cat impact, even though no one stat shines.
Goran Dragic MIA 35 PG/SG 0.485 0.765 1.2 18.5 3.7 6.7 1.1 0.2 2.6 34 17.3/4.6/6.7 post-ASB last year, with a lot more upside with Wade gone, despite the metrics not loving his game due to lack of STL/3s. His FG% makes him a great punt-FT fit though, and seeing how drafts are playing out and SOMEONE is punting FT by the 4th round, I am moving him snugly in my top-50.
Nicolas Batum LAC 32 SF/PF 0.435 0.845 1.9 15.0 5.9 5.7 1.0 0.5 3.0 34 A tad more upside for Frenchy with Lin gone, but he had a career-high in TO last year and always struggles in FG%, so those hurt him a tad.
Gordon Hayward CHA 31 SG/SF 0.440 0.820 1.8 20.0 5.0 4.2 1.3 0.4 2.6 36 FG%, AST, STL and BLK all dropped last year, and now they have a competent PG. Love the player, but couldn’t rank him any higher. The broken finger breaking out of the skin (ugh) will cost him a few weeks, and cost him a few spots in my ranks, but then I expect him to be fine.
Marc Gasol LAL 36 C 0.475 0.790 0.0 15.5 7.1 3.7 0.9 1.3 2.1 32 The bone in his foot he broke is a really tricky one for big men, and he couldn’t even run as of June 5th. There is confirmation there will be DNPs and minutes limits to open the season, but if he can stay healthy through winter, I expect his game to come back into form when you’re in the playoffs.
Nikola Vucevic ORL 30 PF/C 0.515 0.750 0.0 17.5 9.2 2.3 0.7 1.0 1.8 30 I thought I was going to be a smidge above consensus on Ibaka, but turns out I don’t want any part of the Magic frontcourt after all, especially Vuch. Any lapses on D, and Bis is gonna get the Business!
Mike Conley UTA 33 PG 0.430 0.840 1.5 15.5 2.8 5.6 1.2 0.2 1.6 32 Despite my hate on him last year (100% correct too!), I like him at about the same spot in 16-17 with an insane 6.1:1.5 AST:TO last season. Low TO from a PG fits a lot of builds, plus a good wing running mate in Parsons finally.
Dennis Schroder LAL 27 PG 0.420 0.795 1.4 14.5 3.9 6.1 1.2 0.1 3.3 30 Ich Liebe the German! Were’s Paul?! I need to be sure I spelled that right! Yes, the TO was bad in per-minute terms last year, but he had an offensively inept 2nd unit around him and he was trying to prove he’s a starter. I don’t think they get too out of control. Gonna score and dime like a Blitzkreig!
Jeff Teague BOS 33 PG 0.445 0.850 1.5 16.5 2.8 6.2 1.4 0.3 2.7 32 I know it looks lazy having these two back-to-back, but they’re sooooo close! Teague a little safer and will easily win STL, I just worry about how much rock he gets in that system.
D’Angelo Russell MIN 25 PG 0.420 0.750 1.9 16.0 3.6 5.2 1.3 0.1 2.9 32 While I keep calling him D Barksdale for a character in one of the most sophisticated shows ever made, D Russell is anything but. 1.6/3.3/1.2 in 3s/AST/STL in sub-30 minutes as a 19-yr-old is still mad intriguing, especially with no Kobe-USG-suck. Hopefully Russell can keep from doing something stupid.UP – Looks great in preseason, and there’s such a big opportunity here. Belongs firmly entrenched
Elfrid Payton NY 27 PG 0.440 0.600 0.5 12.0 4.2 7.0 1.6 0.4 2.5 32 Get SKIIIIIILES!!! the F%*# outta here! Skiles even publicly said he didn’t think Elfrid was the PG of the future, and with a new system and a defensive-minded coach, I could see Elfrid getting off the Shelfrid and taking off.
Tobias Harris PHI 29 SF/PF 0.470 0.810 1.2 17.0 6.2 2.5 0.8 0.5 1.3 34 So underrated. After getting traded to Motown, the numbers all boosted up – better FG%, 3+ PPG, more FT volume, more 3s, and a much better AST:TO that went from 2.0:1.6 in ORL to 2.6:1.1 in D-town. Full off-season with his new crew, and this could be an awesome, metrics-friendly season.
DeMar DeRozan SA 31 SG/SF 0.445 0.845 0.5 23.0 4.4 4.0 1.0 0.2 2.2 36 My original blurb was too good – ‘Why I didn’t like DeRozan last year – Pts went down, AST:TO took a huge step back, treys down, FG% down, and a bad groin injury was the main reason he missed 22 games. Why I like DeRozan this year – Pts went back up (23.5 – career high), AST:TO took a huge step forward (4.0:2.2, ironically the exact same as in 13-14), treys up, FG% up, and he only missed 4 games.’
Brandon Knight PG/SG 0.415 0.835 2.0 18.5 3.8 4.6 1.1 0.2 3.0 34 Apparently this rank still prices me in, but I love the high-output 3s with the AST contribution – easy to miss the 5.1 AST he brings amongst some other warts, mainly FG%…
Evan Fournier ORL 28 SG/SF 0.460 0.815 2.1 19.0 2.9 3.3 1.3 0.1 1.9 34 The Virgin! Also, don’t google what his last name means. Posted a career year going 15.4/2.8/2.7/1.2/0.0 with 2 treys a game and only 1.7 TO, and had some assist-binges as well, diming 3.7/per in April. No Dipo will mean more usage, and they desperately need his scoring!
Darren Collison PG 0.470 0.860 1.2 15.0 2.8 6.5 1.4 0.1 2.5 36 I used to love his fantasy-friendly game as a PG with low TO, but now I hate his character. I like to cheer for my fantasy teams, and that’s tough to do with Colly. ‘Only’ an 8-game suspension keeps him a pretty solid mid-round pick though…
Jonas Valanciunas MEM 29 C 0.565 0.765 0.0 14.0 9.3 0.8 0.4 1.4 1.5 28 The Luminescent Lithuanian’s per-game fantasy rank always looks purdy next to his MPG, but given an injury history, I don’t automatically think no Biyombo = 30+ MPG. I like him, don’t get me wrong! But I don’t have that Canadian love…
Marcin Gortat C 0.565 0.700 0.0 12.0 9.2 1.2 0.5 1.2 1.4 28 The Ten Foot Pole is about to be an Eleven Year Pro, but that ain’t stopping me! He’s finished in the top-50 in the past few seasons – yes it’s metrics-whoreish – but even with a few less MPG, I think this is good value.
Jusuf Nurkic POR 26 C 0.460 0.650 0.0 14.0 8.8 1.6 1.0 1.9 2.2 28 In 17 MPG, Jamba Jus got to 1.4 BLK, 0.8 STL and has some really underrated playmaking ability as a post-passer. I think his %s take big hikes up, and even if he’s only at 24-25 MPG, I think can be a win at this rank.
Bradley Beal WAS 28 SG 0.440 0.780 1.9 17.5 3.5 3.0 1.0 0.2 2.0 32 I actually might have some Beal shares this year, with some confidence in that the Wizards have faith his leg injury issues are behind him – hell, it’s THEIR medical staff that know him better than anyone! So if they had doubts, I suspect they wouldn’t have dropped all dat ca$h.
Rudy Gay SA 34 SF/PF 0.455 0.785 1.0 17.5 6.4 2.3 1.3 0.6 2.3 34 Gay only scores. Despite the real-life basketball metrics hating him though, he was 46th last year despite dropping from 3.7 to 1.7 dimes with Rondo hawgin’ it. No Rondo, mo’ dimes! But this is looking like a messier and messier divorce, with Gay publicly putting out there he’s opting out next year. Virtually any trade is going to hurt, plus he has to deal with internal strife for however long he
Danilo Gallinari ATL 32 SF 0.415 0.860 1.8 17.5 5.0 2.3 0.7 0.3 1.4 32 Uggghhhhh, Gallo! Why can’t you stay healthy! A big sleeper of mine last year was working out pretty well until a kankle. He’s major trade bait, but I still love his game.
Trevor Ariza OKC 36 SG/SF 0.410 0.790 2.4 13.0 5.2 2.5 1.9 0.3 1.5 36 He fits certain builds REALLY well, and like Gortat is a metrics-friendly finisher every year, but I don’t think the D’Antoni effect really impacts Ariza as much. The ups and downs in FG% can crush you, unless you’re outright punting FG%.
Jeremy Lin PG/SG 0.415 0.810 1.3 14.0 3.3 6.3 1.2 0.6 2.4 32 Had a great 15-16 in FT volume and a career-low TO rate, and joins a team in desperate need of playmaking. And cool hair.UP – Check out our H2H Playoff Schedule post, love their schedule down the stretch, and he’s going to have such freedom to be a USG whore.
Rajon Rondo ATL 35 PG 0.450 0.590 0.8 10.5 5.8 8.4 1.8 0.1 2.9 32 Speaking of needing to punt stuff! Yes, AST and STL were great last year, but expect major hits in dimes next to Wade and Butler. Might be closer to DAL stats than SAC stats…
Andrew Wiggins GS 26 SG/SF 0.475 0.785 1.0 21.5 3.7 2.4 1.2 0.7 2.1 36 Obviously needs to make improvements, but at least he’s durable! Big scoring sources aren’t too plentiful past here.
Myles Turner IND 25 PF/C 0.465 0.765 0.3 12.5 6.9 1.0 0.7 2.1 1.8 28 From game 41-82, i.e. the “legit” 2nd half of the season, he went 12.2/6.4/0.9/0.5/1.7 in 26.6 MPG, shooting 49.7% from the field, 73.9% from the stripe, and only committing 1.4 TO. Seasonal numbers get jacked up due to low minutes out of the gate and coming off the broken thumb prior to this run.
Dwyane Wade PG/SG 0.460 0.780 0.1 18.0 3.8 3.6 1.0 0.4 1.9 30 Rondo is a TO-vortex! We might get a little fix there, along with good scoring and some wing dimes. But ya know, for 65 games…
Zach LaVine CHI 26 PG/SG 0.445 0.785 1.7 16.5 2.8 3.1 1.0 0.2 1.8 32 As a starter, was unreal for 17.3/2.8/3.2/1.1/0.2 in 33 games, including 2.4 treys at an absurd 47.4% clip from the field overall. I don’t know if that % is fully replicable, but heavy treys without killing your FG% should fit some FT punt builds.
Dirk Nowitzki PF/C 0.450 0.890 1.6 17.5 6.0 1.8 0.6 0.5 1.1 30 I’m glad I’m including ages, because that explains the only reason why The Gerimator is this low. He stands the test of time, but we’ll see if he can hold up another full NBA season.
George Hill OKC 35 PG/SG 0.440 0.790 1.7 12.0 3.8 3.8 1.0 0.2 1.3 32 Provides 5ish dimes with a minuscule TO rate, with just an overall non-killing game in %s and TO. LET ME SEE THAT THONG!
Aaron Gordon ORL 25 SF/PF 0.470 0.655 0.8 13.5 8.3 2.7 1.1 0.8 1.7 32 Vogel – ‘I’ma use A-Gord like P-George!’ Me – erection.
Nerlens Noel NY 27 PF/C 0.510 0.600 0.0 11.5 8.0 1.9 1.8 1.5 2.0 28 Still the allure of 2/2 STL/BLK! Sixers keep saying one of the bigs will be gone – make a deal already! Now I’m feeling more and more worried about playing time with Embiid feeling like the true bedrock player of the franchise up front, and then Noel hurts his groin and is unlikely to be healthy to start the season. Gulp.
Robert Covington POR 30 SF/PF 0.390 0.795 2.4 12.5 5.4 1.5 1.4 0.5 2.0 28 FG% remains a big issue, but his post-ASB got to 31:10 MPG with an absurd 3.3 treys and gorgeous 15.6/7.0/1.5/1.5/0.6 slash. Another strong fit for FG% punt.
Kent Bazemore GS 32 SG/SF 0.440 0.795 1.7 13.0 5.0 2.6 1.3 0.5 2.0 30 Fell off a smidge last year as the minutes I think caught up to him a bit, but he offers a very sexy metrics-friendly game, and could be a huge get if he can maintain across 82 games.
Avery Bradley MIA 30 PG/SG 0.445 0.790 1.9 15.0 3.0 2.2 1.4 0.3 1.4 34 Career highs in STL, PTS and 3s, with a nice FG% for a high-end ThrAGNOF.
Jordan Clarkson UTA 29 PG/SG 0.440 0.815 1.6 16.5 4.0 3.6 1.1 0.1 1.8 32 Ugh, a tough whiff last year, but with Kobe’s USG gonzo, I could see him being George Hill-ish this year… No change with a bench role, maybe a few less minutes, but more dimes.
Enes Kanter POR 29 C 0.545 0.800 0.2 16.5 9.3 0.6 0.5 0.5 1.9 28 Anemic in AST/STL/BLK, the upside for a 20/10 season with a good FG% keeps him well ahead of the 100 range.
Wesley Matthews LAL 34 SG/SF 0.430 0.850 2.6 15.0 3.3 2.2 1.1 0.2 1.0 34 Even off the awful injury, played 78 games at 33:54 MPG in 15-16. Mark Cuban said Matthews couldn’t even dunk half of last year, but he’s apparently having a great, healthy offseason. A great unsexy name for sexy upside.
Devin Booker PHO 24 SG 0.435 0.845 1.6 13.0 2.6 2.1 0.7 0.3 1.8 28 Mannnnn I want to rank him higher and higher with the PJ Tucker injury news, but 0.6/0.3 STL/BLK with 2.6 AST last year, meh, and a lot came without Knight and Bledsoe off the floor. I think you have an extremely sexy, admittedly young and sexy, player that could be overreached for if you went much higher than here.
Luol Deng SF/PF 0.440 0.770 1.0 13.5 5.8 1.8 0.9 0.3 1.0 32 15.2/8.1/2.5/1.2/0.5 over the final 28 games, with 1.1 treys shooting 48.4% with only 1.4 TO. Yes – no Bosh – but it’s not like the Lakers have a murderers row up front. Another unsexy name that I think will fall too far.
Thaddeus Young CHI 33 SF/PF 0.480 0.675 0.3 13.0 8.1 1.9 1.4 0.4 1.7 30 I think he’s going to be a little overdrafted, as his better numbers have come on awful PHI and BKN teams. I’m not quite sure how he’ll fit into the Pacers up-tempo system, as he’s likely the #5 option.
Monta Ellis PG/SG 0.430 0.780 1.1 14.5 3.2 4.2 1.9 0.3 2.4 34 HE’S STILL GETTING PAID ONLY $11 MIL A YEAR!? Readers last year get that one… 1.9 STL and 4.2 AST is what you’re drafting here, as any bounceback in scoring is tough to see with this new offense.
Ryan Anderson PF/C 0.430 0.870 2.4 17.5 6.2 1.0 0.5 0.3 1.5 30 Ryno, the ThraAGNOF bigman dyno! If you get 70 games of his 3PTM/C combo, you’re happy.
DeMarre Carroll SF/PF 0.450 0.720 1.8 12.0 5.3 1.6 1.4 0.2 1.1 32 In a limited sample due to injuries, 3PTM and STL were both career highs, At least all of his injury issues last year didn’t lead to some big surgery. I could see a nice big bounceback.
J.J. Redick NO 37 SG 0.475 0.890 2.6 15.0 2.0 1.5 0.5 0.1 1.0 28 I don’t see the crazy high marks of 48% from the field again, 47.5% from deep, or scoring over 16 PPG with Blake back. ThrAGNOF!
Rodney Hood POR 28 SG/SF 0.425 0.850 1.9 15.0 3.4 2.9 0.9 0.2 1.7 32 Loves – 2 treys and 2.2-2.5 FT for 86% freebie clip. Hates – 0.9/0.2 in Stl/Blk and 2.7:1.9 AST:TO. I worry the dimes and steals are a little overrated and he’s more ThrAGNOF than not, but I do still like him!
Emmanuel Mudiay PG 0.405 0.760 1.6 15.5 3.7 5.7 1.3 0.6 3.1 32 Makes the top 200 due to PG runs. Not that they have diarrhea, but you get it. Mudiay did finish 15-16 strong going 16.5/3.8/4.9/0.6/0.4 hitting 1.7 treys and shooting 40.8% (high for him) over the final 22 games, so there’s a little hope for minor-breakout potential.
Joakim Noah PF/C 0.465 0.690 0.0 8.5 9.4 4.8 0.8 1.1 1.8 30 Goromotaro! I do like his upside for dimes continuing to play with Rose, but even if this is looking FANTASTIC through 20 games, I would sell immediately due to brittleness.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope LAL 28 SG 0.425 0.800 1.6 14.0 3.5 1.8 1.4 0.2 1.3 34 The KCP addiction remains STRONG! Well, I should say I’ve plateaued, now that his ADP is getting to where my rank is these days… About time!
Robin Lopez WAS 33 C 0.535 0.790 0.0 11.0 7.5 1.5 0.3 1.5 1.5 28 Worst player in basketball! He is what he is, a nice nab for big man depth in non-FT punt builds.
Greg Monroe PF/C 0.515 0.740 0.0 13.0 8.3 2.2 0.9 0.8 1.5 28 I have to rank him somewhere, although admittedly this hate might be going too far. I worry where he lands in an inevitable trade, as the Bucks hate him.
Justise Winslow MEM 25 SF/PF 0.445 0.730 0.8 12.5 7.9 2.7 1.2 0.8 1.7 34 I’m admittedly a little iffy with this rank, but the combo of 0.9 STL and only 1.2 TO as a rookie excites me, as well as an expanded role. FT% is a little bit of an issue, but I think he can surprise, especially if no Bosh.
Markieff Morris LAL 31 PF/C 0.465 0.760 0.8 13.5 6.0 1.8 1.0 0.6 1.8 30 FG% went WAY up even though he took more 3s, TO way down, and same STL/BLK after getting to the Wiz. Still only 27, with a full offseason with the new crew, there could be something here.
Jabari Parker SAC 26 SF/PF 0.490 0.770 0.3 19.5 6.3 2.2 1.1 0.3 2.1 36 An unreal 18.8/6.2/2.2/1.1/0.3 line over his last 29 games, which I originally felt was unrepeatable and blah without threes, but now without Duchess, there’s a legit shot he could push for 20 PPG. With the added rebounds and still some youthful upside, I thought I was a buyer, but apparently he’s being hyped hard in other rankings-sets. I’m not going TOO nuts for a guy who can score but had bad D
Jrue Holiday MIL 31 PG 0.445 0.830 1.7 18.5 3.6 7.3 1.6 0.3 2.9 32 We wish he and his family the best, as he takes an indefinite period of time to be with the people that matter most. Hate to be callous, but in fantasy terms, I don’t think I want to invest in an uncertain amount of stat accrual.
Otto Porter CHI 28 SF 0.465 0.760 1.2 11.0 5.1 1.6 1.4 0.4 1.0 30 There are some rankings and pre-ranks that are out of control for Porter, who was barely ownable when Beal was on the court – he only spiked when Beal was hurt.
Derrick Rose DET 32 PG 0.420 0.810 1.0 18.0 3.2 4.8 0.7 0.2 3.0 32 I had a little optimism he could be a little better than last year, but then his legal issue got more and more publicity, and he just doesn’t sound like a fun guy, regardless of the court’s ruling. I like to cheer for my fantasy teams, sue me!
Matt Barnes SF/PF 0.410 0.780 1.5 9.5 4.7 1.8 0.8 0.6 1.2 26 One of my favorite late round staples, Barnes follows Joerger – who apparently loves him – to SAC, where he is going to play both F positions. 1/1/1 3/STL/BLK gonna be tough to find any later!
Marvin Williams SF/PF 0.435 0.800 1.7 10.5 5.8 1.3 0.8 0.6 0.8 28 As metrics-whorey as it comes, with only 0.8 TO last year in a spread line. I don’t know if I buy 45+ FG% again or the 1.0 BLK though…
Jared Sullinger PF/C 0.440 0.725 0.7 13.5 8.2 2.6 1.0 0.7 1.4 28 The Raptors desperately need deep shooting from guys other than Lowry (and I guess Carroll), but at well under 30% from downtown in his career, I think it could get a little ugly, and I don’t think we see this huge 1+/1+ STL/BLK season either.
Dwight Howard PHI 35 PF/C 0.585 0.520 0.0 15.0 11.0 1.3 0.9 1.6 2.6 32 Obviously a fun FT punt asset if he lasts this long, but the TO issues, injury-proneness, and changing to another team worry me a smidge. I think the resurgence season last year was an anomaly to his career trends.
Will Barton DEN 30 SG/SF 0.430 0.790 1.0 12.0 4.9 2.1 0.8 0.4 1.6 26 People are being way too chill on Will the thrill! 5.8 REB, 2.5 AST, 0.9/0.5 STL/BLK, and 1.4 treys as ancillary stats to the scoring is nothing to sneeze at, and I think he gets a similar MPG role, even with everyone healthy and the new wing rooks.
Clint Capela ATL 27 PF/C 0.565 0.420 0.0 11.0 9.6 1.0 1.0 1.7 1.3 28 More D’Antoniiiii! Obviously a must-draft for FT punters; for other builds, the upside in Boards-n-Blocks is capped a little due to the drain.
Harrison Barnes SAC 29 SF/PF 0.445 0.755 1.4 15.0 5.2 1.8 0.8 0.2 1.5 32 Doesn’t hit enough treys or bring enough D-stats, but maybe can get to 18 or 19 a night in Big D.
Evan Turner SG/SF 0.460 0.780 0.0 10.5 5.0 4.2 1.0 0.2 1.9 28 Both Turner’s AST and AST:TO took massive steps forward in Boston, but nothing else really jumps off the page. I imagine a similar role in POR.
Reggie Jackson LAC 31 PG/SG 0.440 0.860 1.6 19.0 3.0 6.6 0.8 0.1 3.0 32 Brutal news that R-Jax ‘could’ miss 6-8 weeks with knee issues. It wouldn’t be the end of the world, but this is for knee tendinitis, and not off a surgery. So who knows if this lingers. I am hoping to steer clear, and nab Ish late to see what happens…
Marcus Morris LAC 31 SF/PF 0.440 0.750 1.3 13.0 4.9 2.3 0.8 0.3 1.7 34 Not flashy, but only has missed 3 games the last 3 seasons, and offers a nice well-rounded scoring boost.DOWN – I just keep not having him close to the top of my queue at my last rank at 100ish. Too boring.
Buddy Hield SAC 28 SG 0.400 0.820 2.2 14.5 4.4 2.3 1.0 0.2 2.3 34 Steals consistently went down in college and he shot 32.7% in Summer Ball, with only a 22.9% clip on treys. Small sample, but there’s going to be some big % waffles to his ThrAGNOF game.
Jahlil Okafor DET 25 C 0.510 0.670 0.0 17.0 6.9 1.3 0.4 0.9 2.0 28 Surprised me as a rookie with over a block/per and a non-killing FT%, but I hate their big man mix and all the issues he had mostly off the court.
Ish Smith WAS 33 PG 0.420 0.690 0.6 10.0 2.5 4.6 0.8 0.2 1.8 22 I admittedly waffle at times with the true ‘purpose’ of these ranks, but I am looking to draft Ish in the last 2 or 3 rounds in all drafts right now with the R-Jax news. Was previously effective as a starter on a bad team, now he starts for a good team. I think this start could be pretty epic, then you address when/if R-Jax is back.
Deron Williams PG 0.410 0.860 1.5 14.0 3.0 6.0 0.9 0.2 2.2 32 Limited upside, low D stats, low FG%, but is a PG who starts in the NBA and had 5.8 AST last season. We obviously can’t expect a full season either.
Mason Plumlee DET 31 PF/C 0.525 0.635 0.0 10.0 7.8 3.0 0.8 0.8 2.0 26 4.8 dimes in the postseason, and shot 64.2% at the stripe which is a big step forward. Maybe he can be a sneaky C dimes source, and has played all 82 the past 2 years.
Matthew Dellavedova CLE 30 PG/SG 0.410 0.825 1.8 10.5 2.4 5.6 0.8 0.1 1.8 32 Mehhhh, yeah Middleton news does nothing for me here, maybe an extra 3 attempt happens a game from what we would’ve otherwise expected. Still going to be Giannis running the point.UP – Bucks dumping MCW shows complete and utter faith in Delly playing a huge role as the starting PG. Love the dimes in preseason.
Tim Frazier MEM 30 PG 0.415 0.745 0.6 12.0 4.1 6.8 1.0 0.1 2.5 28 With Jrue likely out a good stretch at the beginning of the season, Frazier is penciled in as your PG starter. Went 13.1/4.4/7.5/1.4/0.1 over the final 16 games last year! And not even all of that came as a starter! I’m tempering my expectations a tad because we just don’t know the Jrue game played this year.
Zach Randolph PF/C 0.475 0.775 0.0 15.5 7.9 2.2 0.6 0.2 1.6 30 We know about what we’ll get, and he barely turns it over, for a PTS/REB source I would buy at this point. Not too worried about a bench role, yeah maybe a few less minutes, but should be better per-36 against 2nd units.
Joel Embiid PHI 27 C 0.485 0.750 0.2 12.5 7.6 0.5 0.3 1.4 2.0 20 Only boosting him a little due to the Simmons news. Looked phenomenal in his first NBA action, but it was a short stint in an early preseason game. Let’s not get too crazy. They’re not going to play him big minutes, and still going to rest him on back-to-backs.UP – Aight, I’m buying in a little more. Looks great. And he’s so big! Hah.
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson SG/SF 0.460 0.720 0.2 9.5 7.6 2.1 1.8 0.7 1.3 32 Had a 7.6/7.7/1.6/1.9/0.4 9 game stretch pre-injury, and BKN needs him to be their SG of the future.
Julius Randle NY 26 PF 0.445 0.715 0.2 13.0 10.3 2.2 0.8 0.3 2.1 30 About as low-hyped as we could get for a guy who averaged a dubdub as a rook… FG% and lack of D stats hurt.
Danny Green PHI 34 SG/SF 0.410 0.780 1.6 9.0 4.0 1.9 1.0 0.8 1.0 28 We saw how fickle metrics-whore guys can be – didn’t hit his 3s and it destroyed his value last year. Could bounce back a little.
Nikola Mirotic SF/PF 0.410 0.800 2.1 12.5 5.6 1.5 0.9 0.7 1.7 28 I’d be much more intrigued if they didn’t bring in Wade squeezing out SF minutes as I don’t think he’s a great fit at PF due to defensive issues.
Kyle Korver FA 40 SG/SF 0.445 0.860 2.2 10.0 3.1 2.1 0.6 0.3 1.2 28 After shooting treys in the high-40%s for a long stretch, 39.9% last year. A healthy offseason instead of recovering from two surgeries including one on his elbow – I think a sneaky bounceback ThrAGNOF.
Josh Richardson DAL 27 SG/SF 0.445 0.700 1.7 12.5 3.2 2.5 1.1 0.9 1.2 30 I wasn’t fully buying into the hype, as he shot 53.3% from deep (!!!) in the second half last year during that huge run. I saw some regression coming …andddddd, he tears his knee in offseason workouts. Ugh! This is going to cost him an epicly important training camp and preseason, but I still have him on the fringe of draft-worthy as an IL slot, since RCL leagues have 2 IL spots.UP – Progressing
Bismack Biyombo CHA 28 PF/C 0.545 0.630 0.0 6.5 9.6 0.4 0.4 1.7 0.9 28 Not investing in the ORL frontcourt, but there’s obviously Boards-n-Blocks usability with your last pick or two here. Even if he’s coming off the bench, it should be for good minutes.
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist SF 0.475 0.700 0.4 11.5 7.3 1.5 0.7 0.7 1.2 30 In his 6 full games before the [re]injury last year, he was a pretty saucy 13.5/7.0/1.2/0.3/0.5 shooting 52.6%. Sure a small sample, but he’s still really young and had big improvements the past two seasons. Just needs to keep those shoulders in those sockets!
Zaza Pachulia C 0.460 0.780 0.0 8.0 6.9 1.7 0.7 0.2 1.5 24 Pizza arms! Up until Feb 19th in 15-16, he was 10/10.9/2/1/0.3 before they massively scaled back his minutes. Should fit a nice boarding need for the Golden State NBA All Stars of the West Warriors.
Steven Adams NO 28 C 0.590 0.600 0.0 11.0 9.6 1.0 0.8 1.5 1.3 32 Despite low-volume, vastly improved his %s and AST:TO last year. I’m not sure the volume goes up a ton though, making him barely above the streaming class.
JaMychal Green DEN 31 PF 0.470 0.770 0.4 12.0 7.0 1.8 0.9 0.7 1.4 28 The Grizz lack A TON of depth up front, and he had a 16 game stretch in March of 12.6/7.4/2.3/0.9/0.8 in under 29 MPG. On non-Gasol nights, he could easily do that, and now it looks like he’s starting with Zach Randolph reportedly coming off the bench (which annoys the nuts outta me, I wanted to be on an island here!). Love the PT upside.
Al Jefferson PF/C 0.485 0.660 0.0 12.0 6.5 1.6 0.5 0.9 0.8 24 Big Al has big tread on the big tires, but could easily go 11/6 with low TO for a backend big. But hopefully someone else in your league nabs him higher for name value 🙂
Kenneth Faried PF/C 0.545 0.645 0.0 12.0 8.6 1.1 0.5 0.8 1.3 24 You’re probably hoping for a trade to be honest… Even in a low MPG role out of the gate if he’s still in DEN, I think there’s enough for early-season ownership.
Alex Len TOR 28 PF/C 0.450 0.735 0.0 10.0 7.9 1.4 0.6 1.2 1.5 26 Only gets ranked here due to upside – he was a trainwreck when a starter last year, and projected to still come behind grandpa Tyson. More a stash-and-hope.
Tony Parker PG 0.490 0.770 0.5 12.0 2.3 5.4 0.7 0.1 1.8 28 Interesting note – looks like Parker had his best AST:TO ratio of his career last year: 5.3:1.8. I know he’s old and not going to play a huge MPG or games played, but I found that intriguing as a final AST boost.
Al-Farouq Aminu ORL 30 SF/PF 0.415 0.730 1.3 10.0 5.8 1.5 0.9 0.7 1.3 26 I don’t buy that a guy had a FG% of 41.6 – right where it was last year – while going from 1.7 to 4.3 treys attempted. 36.1% from deep seems like an epic fluke to me, and his ups and downs make him too annoying to own for me to invest.
Timofey Mozgov C 0.540 0.720 0.0 9.5 7.9 0.5 0.4 1.2 1.6 28 If he gets to 28 MPG, he could get 1.5 blocks and a few boards, but health has been an issue and I have no faith in the Lakers not to screw the pooch somehow.
Kris Dunn ATL 27 PG 0.435 0.700 0.5 11.5 2.3 4.2 1.3 0.3 2.3 26 Insane in Summer Ball, going 24/7/3/2/1 shooting 54.3% from the field and getting to the stripe for 15 freebies in only 2 games (due to a concussion). It’s tough to project HUGE playing time, but the counting stats could be sexy in a major combo guard role. %s and TO are an issue though, cough MCW…
Taj Gibson NY 36 PF/C 0.515 0.700 0.0 11.5 7.1 1.3 0.6 1.3 1.2 28 With Noah and Pau outta there, there’s a shot for 28-29 MPG with a 9/9 1.3 BLK sort of line, with a great FG%. Low end, but usable.
J.R. Smith SG/SF 0.415 0.680 2.6 12.5 2.8 1.7 1.0 0.2 0.8 30 12.4 Pts and 2.6 treys we saw last year I think regress with a full season of Kyrie. But the Cavs do play a ton of off nights, so that could help his ThrAGNOF ownability a tier above the streamers.
Tyler Johnson BKN 29 PG/SG 0.465 0.795 0.9 11.0 3.6 2.8 1.0 0.5 1.6 30 I think the plan was always to mainly play him behind Dragic, so I’m not tinkiering his rank with the J-Rich injury. Lovvvvvve TyJo’s game, but I dunno if he’ll play enough to reap the full rewards.
Gary Harris DEN 26 SG 0.465 0.820 1.7 14.0 3.3 2.1 1.5 0.3 1.4 32 Expected to miss 4-6 weeks with a groin strain, likely having him miss the first few weeks of the season. I just HATE this for younger guys. Blah.UP – More promising since this last update that the missed time will be minimal.
Tyson Chandler C 0.590 0.645 0.0 8.0 9.1 1.0 0.6 1.0 1.5 26 Very usable 10.1/9.4/0.9/0.6/0.8 run over his last 24 games, shooting 67.8%. Injuries and age knock him down a round or two, but I’d be fine with him as my last pick.
Jared Dudley LAL 36 SG/SF 0.470 0.740 1.2 8.0 3.5 2.0 0.9 0.2 1.0 26 Probably a forgotten name come draft day, but did go 10.1/3.9/2.7/1.2/0.2 over 39 games while Wiz had injuries, with 1.7 treys and shooting almost 50%. Has a chance to replicate that as the Suns starting SF or PF.
Eric Gordon HOU 32 SG 0.415 0.860 2.4 14.5 2.1 3.1 0.8 0.2 1.8 30 Has great upside to be a combo guard backup behind Beard and P-Bev in D’Antoni’s system, but my optimism is capped by his health. Wow, he’s only 27?UP – Yeah my concern with PBev’s health should’ve had me rank Gordon a little better. I like the upside for Pts/3s, but Gordon is no pillar of health either.
Dario Saric PHO 27 PF 0.410 0.820 1.0 11.0 4.9 1.7 0.6 0.5 2.3 26 More TO than AST in Euro play, and even with the opening of minutes with Simmons hurt, I’m still not sold how ‘must-own’ he’ll be even in 12ers due to the TO question mark and defensive-stats apititude. But I’ll 100% take a stab at him with my last couple picks if he’s there.
Andrew Bogut C 0.580 0.560 0.0 6.0 7.8 2.4 0.5 1.6 1.3 22 We know the Bogut schtick by now – steals and blocks, bad FT, legs made of glass.
Lou Williams LAC 34 PG/SG 0.410 0.835 1.7 15.5 2.4 2.6 0.9 0.2 1.7 28 Minutes are obviously a question mark, but his FT volume and 3PTM skillset is unique in the streaming class.UP – Looks like Walton is going to start Sweet Lou. I’d have him even higher if I thought they would keep him in that role with big minutes all year, but I think we could see some inconsistencies in his run. But love me that FT/3s combo so much!
T.J. McConnell IND 29 PG 0.465 0.720 0.6 8.0 3.3 5.6 1.4 0.1 2.1 26 Not quite sure of Bayless’s fate, but McConnell will move way up if he’s a long-term starter. Sergio might sneak his way in as well, but I like McConnell better of the two…
Omri Casspi SF/PF 0.475 0.680 1.5 10.5 5.8 1.5 0.7 0.2 1.3 26 A key FT punt target – Casspi hits 3s and shoots a good % while having a tough time at the stripe. A Gay trade locked in stone will boost him a good bit for me.
John Henson PF/C 0.560 0.600 0.0 7.5 4.4 0.8 0.4 2.0 1.2 18 Well, an OBVIOUS FT target, and a Monroe trade locked in stone boosts HIM up a bit!
Mirza Teletovic SF/PF 0.420 0.770 2.2 11.5 4.6 1.4 0.5 0.4 1.4 26 Was going to be a ThrAGNOF off the bench for the Bucks with a murky outlook for minutes; alas, Middleton is out most of the year, and the Bucks DESPERATELY need perimeter shooting. They’ll find a way to play Teletovic a good bit, but I’m not going too crazy… ThrAGNOF!
Jerami Grant DET 27 SF/PF 0.430 0.680 0.9 11.0 4.8 1.9 0.8 1.7 1.6 28 Yes, the deck is heavily stacked against him, but 0.7/1.6 STL/BLK in only 26:50 last year! With Simmons out, there’s a huge gap in minutes – yes I don’t expect him to play a ton of out the gate still – but more upside than there used to be. UP – He continues to be great in preseason and will pick up SF minutes. Becoming one of my favorite deep league sleepers.
Amir Johnson PF/C 0.580 0.605 0.2 8.5 6.7 1.9 0.7 1.1 1.4 26 Sneaky punt-FT target with a great FG% and bad FTs. I was surprised to actually like Amir this year, but with no Sully, there isn’t heavy-hitting PF to really rival Amir’s role. Love dem D stats.
Courtney Lee SG/SF 0.450 0.840 1.0 9.0 2.6 1.8 1.1 0.3 0.9 30 Pretty lame last roster-filler, but he contributes STL/3s with virtually no TO.
Michael Beasley SF/PF 0.465 0.770 0.2 12.0 4.6 0.9 0.6 0.4 1.5 22 In only 18 MPG, Beasley went 12.8/4.9 with a usable-enough 0.6/0.5 STL/BLK in his stint in Houston, I already liked him as a sleeper and then he gets traded to a BETTER situation! They obviously need scoring, but unfortunately he’s not a huge perimeter shooter, so I’m not sure exactly what his role will be.
Bojan Bogdanovic UTA 32 SG/SF 0.440 0.830 1.7 12.0 3.3 1.3 0.4 0.1 1.6 28 ThrAGNOF! Nets need wing scoring/3PTM in the worst way, but the rest of his stats are so empty to rank him higher, even with the Pts/3s upside.
Marcus Smart BOS 27 PG 0.370 0.760 1.2 9.5 4.3 3.4 1.6 0.3 1.4 28 Seems like there’s some buzz for him to take the next step, but I don’t see that happening until they let him slash instead of shooting 3s. STL in the bank is nice, but meh.
Bobby Portis MIL 26 PF/C 0.440 0.740 0.6 10.0 6.0 1.1 0.6 0.7 1.2 22 Shooting for the upside here – when unleashed the D stats didn’t come too strong, but he can hit FT and treys. Give him run, Rolo sucks!
Arron Afflalo SG/SF 0.430 0.845 1.3 11.5 3.3 1.8 0.4 0.1 1.2 30 Could be a 15 PPG source, but is blah everywhere else.
Stanley Johnson TOR 25 SG/SF 0.400 0.790 1.2 10.5 4.7 1.9 1.0 0.3 1.7 26 Obviously didn’t have the rookie season the buzz was hyping – shooting 37.5% and turning it over an obscene 1.6/game in only 23 minutes – but StanVan wants to limit KCP and Marcus a little, and StanJo can play the 2, 3 or 4. Hopefully he can improve if given more minutes in year 2.
Willie Cauley-Stein DAL 27 PF/C 0.560 0.650 0.0 8.5 6.0 0.7 0.8 1.2 0.8 24 0.7/1.0 STL/BLK was AWESOME in 21:23 MPG last year, but 5.3 REB? And I don’t know if we see that MPG jump with Joerger saying Matt Barnes is gonna play some 4.
Terrence Jones SF/PF 0.490 0.660 0.7 12.0 6.6 1.0 0.6 1.4 1.0 26 What’s a lot sexier than Brow/Asik? Brow/Tjones! But then Brow would get pounded by centers, and it would be the most brittle frontline in history… There is a rapport between the two from their Kentucky days, but it’s a pure spec final pick that might not have enough MPG to be usable out of the gate.
E’Twaun Moore PHO 32 PG/SG 0.450 0.680 1.0 9.0 2.3 1.9 0.8 0.2 1.1 24 Another benefactor to the Jrue-hole, and one that got paid. He’ll have some sort of role.UP – Having a great season (except his last game when he bruised his heel), and can fill all sorts of roles around all the injuries. Like the playing time upside.
Tyreke Evans PG/SG 0.440 0.770 1.1 16.0 5.1 5.8 1.2 0.3 2.8 30 We know the upside when healthy, but revealed he had a bloodclot form after surgery, and just hearing about bloodclots from another NBA player has me freak out. His target date is in December now. I won’t be drafting him in 12ers anymore…
Patrick Beverley LAC 33 PG/SG 0.425 0.765 2.1 10.5 3.9 3.6 1.4 0.4 1.4 30 While I initially liked the upside for P-Bev in D’Antoni system, injuries are rearing their ugly head already with a lingering knee issue… Would just be preseason noise for most guys, but P-Bev already hurt has me scurred.DOWN – Not a huge move down, still draftable for me, but this knee thing sounds like it will cost him the first few games…
Tristan Thompson BOS 30 PF/C 0.565 0.630 0.0 11.5 9.6 0.9 0.5 0.7 0.9 32 You know what you get here – and I would’ve had him even lower if not for 82 games played the past 4 seasons – durable rock for deepers though!
Trey Lyles SA 25 PF 0.450 0.720 0.9 8.0 4.5 1.0 0.5 0.3 1.0 20 Scored more than Nick Young at a rave club in Summer Ball! Hit treys (that’s his name!) and boarded, but anemic in AST/STL/BLK. Should be good instant O off the Jazz bench, but not seeing an ownable guy out of the gates in 12ers.
Tony Allen SG/SF 0.465 0.650 0.2 8.5 4.4 1.4 1.8 0.4 1.3 26 Steals! And that’s it! Streambait.
Brandon Ingram NO 23 SF 0.400 0.700 0.8 10.0 3.9 1.5 0.5 0.7 1.4 26 I question his perimeter game, and role off the bench behind Deng and Randle as a SF/PF. I think it’ll be a rocky road to start the season – let’s get ice cream!
Dion Waiters SG/SF 0.400 0.720 1.0 10.0 2.4 2.1 0.9 0.2 1.4 26 Might get snagged as a sleeper in a lot of leagues, but I’ve always been bleh on his game. Not enough 3s for a bad FG%, I’m not sure the MPG he’ll get, and not like Richardson is out too long. Steals get a little overlooked for him though.
Cody Zeller CHA 28 PF/C 0.515 0.765 0.0 9.5 6.3 1.3 0.9 0.9 1.0 26 A lingering bone bruise has the beginning of the season in question. I hate the Hornets C rotation these days…
Mario Hezonja SG 0.440 0.880 1.2 9.0 2.8 1.6 0.6 0.2 1.5 22 Was anything but super his rookie year, and while the Magic lack a lot of wing depth, he just doesn’t do enough beyond 3s and a couple of boards to get me excited as a 6th man.
Brandon Jennings PG 0.390 0.780 1.5 9.5 2.0 3.9 0.7 0.1 1.2 22 Played like vintage BJ off the bench with a bad FG% and great AST:TO last year. Rose is an obvious injury risk and possible suspension risk, so a nice stash gamble in deepers.
Solomon Hill ATL 30 SG/SF 0.435 0.830 1.0 10.5 3.8 2.3 0.9 0.2 1.5 30 No Reke gives Hill a chance to play some starting minutes out of the gate, and over the final 5 games of 15-16, Hill went 15/7.2/2.2/2.0/0.2 on the Pacers. Very small sample, but there’s talent there.
Dwight Powell DAL 30 PF 0.485 0.755 0.2 11.0 6.8 1.2 0.9 0.7 1.1 26 Some talent here as well! 14.5/9.9/1.6/1.3/0.9 in per-36 minutes with only 1.5 TO, and should have a big expanded role with a new contract, and Carlisle saying as much.
Trevor Booker PF 0.490 0.650 0.3 9.5 6.3 1.2 0.8 0.7 1.3 28 PF in BKN is a mess. I think Scola could start, but the biggest upside I think is for the Bookworm. Didn’t have consistent fantasy production when given minutes last year, but can board, hit a trey, and provide a few D stats.
Joe Johnson SG/SF 0.440 0.815 1.3 9.0 2.3 3.1 0.5 0.1 1.2 22 I could see Exum, Burks, JJ, Lyles as a really entertaining 2nd unit for the Jazz… Will get 2-3 weeks of starts s well with Hayward down.
Ed Davis MIN 32 PF/C 0.610 0.550 0.0 7.0 7.1 1.0 0.6 1.1 0.8 22 I’d like Big Ed more if I wasn’t a Plumlee buyer, but 0.7/0.9 STL/BLK and 7.4 boards is maybe replicable, although I could see a few less minutes if they expand Mason.
Gerald Henderson SG/SF 0.430 0.780 0.9 11.5 3.6 2.0 0.6 0.3 1.2 26 Blah scoring. As empty as his hair follicles.
Brandan Wright PF/C 0.620 0.675 0.0 7.0 4.3 0.5 0.4 1.1 0.8 18 Gets a flier rank due to possible starts coming if Gasol misses any time or second legs of b2bs. Has injury issues of his own and can’t play a ton of minutes in a game, so even in non-Gasol games, upside is a little capped.
Norman Powell TOR 28 SG 0.430 0.820 0.8 7.5 2.5 1.3 0.8 0.2 0.8 18 Might have a little too much buzz after his awesome finish last year, but I just don’t see enough run…
C.J. Miles SG/SF 0.405 0.780 2.0 10.5 2.4 0.8 0.6 0.3 1.0 22 Averaged a whopping 2.2 treys last year! But with PG13 now locked in at SF minutes instead of stretch-4 minutes, it’ll be tough to see Miles get the same MPG.
T.J. Warren IND 27 SF 0.495 0.720 0.7 13.0 3.5 1.1 0.9 0.3 1.0 28 Initially not in my ranks, I had some question marks on his health off foot surgery. But it sounds like he’s healthy and there’s an opening for SF minutes with Tucker out. Not huge on his game and I think Booker gets some SF run though…
Roy Hibbert C 0.440 0.805 0.0 9.0 4.9 1.2 0.3 1.4 1.2 24 Ugh, I hate Hibbert. But if Zeller misses time, Hibbert might win out this starting job and play 25 MPG. Will make the Hornets awful though!
Jeremy Lamb IND 29 SG/SF 0.435 0.790 0.9 9.0 3.6 1.4 0.7 0.4 0.8 20 Lin is back in NY and MKG has balky shoulders – there’s a shot for a little added run! Yes, he’s inconsistent and the coaching staff calls him out on it, but they paid him!
Tony Snell ATL 29 SG/SF 0.400 0.810 1.3 8.0 3.5 1.2 0.6 0.2 1.0 26 I’ve always had a soft spot in my heart for Snell… Has shown some fun flashes! Great opportunity to start in Milwaukee, admittedly ThrAGNOFfy.
Jaylen Brown BOS 24 SF 0.420 0.665 0.6 10.0 3.2 1.7 1.0 0.3 1.7 22 After only 1.4 combined STL+BLK in college, 2.3 STL and 0.8 BLK in 6 games in Summer play. I’m not seeing a ton of run here though, but there’s some talk they could play him at stretch-4. Could be enough minutes for him to be deep league usable if so.
Meyers Leonard MIA 29 PF/C 0.465 0.775 1.6 9.5 5.5 1.4 0.2 0.4 1.3 24 Just does nothing in AST/STL/BLK and is a bench player. Meh.
Marquese Chriss GS 24 PF 0.445 0.690 0.5 9.5 6.0 0.8 0.6 0.8 1.8 24 I’m just not sold on the role, but the preseason showing is enough to at least have him in the ranks. Getting steals for a big, taking a lot of shots, and after 6 TO in the preseason opener, has calmed those down.
Langston Galloway PHO 29 PG/SG 0.395 0.770 1.0 6.9 3.5 2.7 0.9 0.3 0.9 24 Gets an added boost with Jrue’s games played in question, and should be a fixture as a combo guard off the bench. Doesn’t do much stats-wise, but has impressively low TO rates with a few dimes.
Shaun Livingston PG/SG 0.525 0.810 0.1 6.5 2.2 3.0 0.7 0.3 1.0 20 Warriors have pretty light depth at guard, and Livingston can chip in some low-volume stats with low-TO. Nice deep league depth.
Allen Crabbe PG/SG 0.455 0.840 1.5 10.2 2.5 1.3 0.9 0.2 0.8 24 Got really effing rich this offseason! Turner is probably starting and McCollum is going to get his huge run… When are the Blazers gonna get Crabby?!
Jarrett Jack PG/SG 0.415 0.870 0.5 8.0 2.8 2.6 0.5 0.1 1.0 18 A little surprising he landed somewhere where playing time is so assured, but he should play a nice mentorship role to Schroder. Although he’ll need a German translator like my boy Paul.
Wesley Johnson SG/SF 0.405 0.730 1.2 7.0 3.3 0.5 1.0 0.6 0.7 20 0.7/1.1 STL/BLK last year, but was really up and down. Will get a little boost if The Truth retires.
James Ennis ORL 31 SG/SF 0.420 0.800 1.1 9.0 3.3 1.3 0.8 0.3 1.2 24 I’m not totally buying in yet, but new coach David ‘Plop Plop, Fizz’ Fizzdale has a major hard-on for him. And if Parsons is limited out of the gate, which it sounds like he might be, it will give Ennis playing time in a weak stable of wings. Monitoring for now, might raise him as we move along.
Patrick Patterson LAC 32 PF/C 0.420 0.810 1.1 6.0 4.0 1.0 0.5 0.3 0.7 22 Meh, we know what he is, blah stats but gets em across the board with low TO.
Kelly Oubre Jr. GS 25 SF 0.420 0.740 1.0 9.5 4.1 0.6 0.9 0.3 1.2 22 Just because I love him! Still a little raw from some preseason action I watched the other day, but massive talent is there. Scott Brooks saying the SF position is a battle might be a little silly, but should tell you he’s closer to Porter than you’d think.
Dragan Bender PF 0.390 0.750 1.1 7.5 5.1 1.2 0.6 0.8 2.1 22 Really struggled in Summer Ball, but I like him for the added SF opportunity with Tucker hurt. It’s so weird he’s 7+ feet and going to play SF…
Sabonis 0.470 0.765 0.9 8.0 3.9 1.8 0.4 0.4 1.4 26
  1. Mak says:

    8 person. 9 cat h2h. I had the 3rd pick. What u think of this team? Any immediate weaknesses?

    Steph curry
    Hassan whiteside
    Kyle Lowry
    Deangelo Russ
    D wade

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Mak: Super solid! Of course everyone is loaded in 8 team, maybe your scoring is actually a little low? Only because Gobert/Gorgui are light, meh actually I retract that, you should be fine even in an 8er. TO are a little high and I think you might have some rough FG% weeks, but that’s all I got!

  2. Michael says:


    Need some advice my draft is tomorrow and I was wondering how I should draft after my 3 keepers. I am in 12 team Roto
    My Keepers are : Chris Paul, Damian Lillard, Giannis Antetekumpo
    I was wondering if I should player like Gortat or other centers or should I do one center one wing?
    Should I take Devin Booker high. I am quite high on the guy but Bledsoe and knight are back

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Michael: Holy crap, nice set of keepers! If 9 cat roto, I def wanna get low-TO bigs. You need FG help and TO help. Gortat would be beautiful, would pass on like Crowder and Ariza due to FG%. Nah, I wouldn’t reach too hard for Booker in roto, FG% might be iffy, I think he’s better for H2H

  3. Torn ACL says:

    Need some advice for our draft tomorrow. 20 teams h2h. Taking 6th pick. Is there a draft strategy that works for this very deep league format? I am high on taking giannis at 6th. If so, who should i pair giannis with my 35th pick? Thank you, razz team!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Torn ACL: 20 teams, love it! that’s the beauty of Giannis, can literally go any direction. I would just go off my ranks (or your own personal ranks if you do them) and get the highest value. If one of the FT punt C falls, I might do that since Giannis is iffy there, just be sure to get 3s later

      • Torn ACL says:

        @JB Gilpin: Giannis plus a punt C is a good start. I’m hoping to get D Barksdale for scoring and 3s. But i am not so sure that he’ll still be available at 46th. sigh

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:

          @Torn ACL: Hope you ended up getting Barksdale!

  4. JoeMorgan'sMustache says:

    What’s the reasoning for projecting Russell at just over 16 points per-game? Naturally he is expected to improve his game, has a clear path to more minutes, and with Kobe gone his useage will no doubt spike. It seems he should be pushing close to 20 ppg this year.

    • JoeMorgan'sMustache says:

      @JoeMorgan’sMustache: I see it’s right at 16…not sure why I thought it was just over.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:

        @JoeMorgan’sMustache: Hah that is officially a Slim question! I’ll be sure he checks it out, I believe we talked this in a comment that he admitted to being conservative with the projection earlier in the offseason and would boost it up doing an edit now

        • JoeMorgan'sMustache says:

          @JB Gilpin: Thanks was just curious if you had some insight on that…will be looking for Slim’s response and or updated projections. High on Russell this year and in dynasty keeper/formats. Based on your note to the side of his name it seems you like him quite a bit as well. Do you think he can push close to 20 ppg this year? Thanks for what you do man!

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:

            @JoeMorgan’sMustache: 100% I would probably put it at 19ish just because I worry about bad shooting slumps and some games where he sits on the bench a little long. Appreciate that man!

  5. Francis Mendoza says:

    Hi JB,
    Should i drop Jerryd Bayless to pick Kyle Anderson? I don’t trust Bayless healing process. I already got Rondo, G.Hill and Ish Smith as point guards.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Francis Mendoza: Def don’t mind dropping Bayless, but I would imagine there’s other guys on the wire I’d like more…

  6. Kurt says:

    Hey guys! Infrequent commenter but a loyal daily reader for years here putting the call out to Razzball nation.

    Just had an owner drop from my 5th year keeper league at the last minute. We keep up to 8. 10 team h2h with 11-cat scoring (DD and FGMI added to standard 9-cat), $200 budget, 15 roster spots plus IR. The roster in question features some good value in a $21 Jimmy Butler, $25 Wiggins, $25 Love, $16 Howard, and $21 Beal, so it’s not a barren roster by any means. Our auction is Monday 10/24 11pm EST, so really soon.

    Anyone interested in joining a highly competitive but affordable keeper league hit me up. This is only the third time an owner has dropped and we’re going into our 5th year, so we’re definitely a bunch of basketball junkies here!

    [email protected]

    • Kurt says:

      @Kurt: update: spot filled! You guys are awesome as always!

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:

        @Kurt: Thanks man, appreciate you reading us! Glad you got the spot filled!

  7. Slimbo says:

    thoughts on a keeper league trade? 14 teams with 4 keepers (9 cat h2h)

    Current Keepers are Durant, Oladipo, Turner, Wiggins

    just got offered a 1st round pick (6th pick in 1st round) and gobert for my wiggins


    • Bye Felica says:

      @Slimbo: I would take that deal depending on who I was taking with the pick

      • Slimbo says:

        @Bye Felica:

        tons of players to choose from, all those rookies plus 1 of

        Derrick Favors
        Mike Conley
        Jonas Valanciunas
        Trevor Ariza
        Tobias Harris
        Ricky Rubio
        Gorgui Dieng
        Nicolas Batum
        Evan Fournier
        Zach LaVine
        Marcin Gortat
        Avery Bradley

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:

          @Bye Felica: @Slimbo: Yeah scoring is a huge need for your keepers, so I would take the deal

  8. Tenethor says:

    Hello JB and may we have another great Razzball season,

    Im on a H2H- 10team – 9CAT league and we just had our draft this morning. I was picking 8th out of 10. So here’s my team in the order that i drafted it :

    #8 Chris Paul
    #13 Hassan Whiteside
    #28 Kemba Walker
    #33 Kristaps Porzingis
    #48 Andrew Wiggins
    #53 Jae Crowder
    #68 Ricky Rubio
    #73 Marcin Gortat
    #88 Avery Bradley
    #93 Jusuf Nurkic
    #108 Robert Covington
    #113 Markieff Morris
    #128 Luol Deng

    General thoughts on my team? What would you be looking to improve?

    Thanks in advance man!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Tenethor: Hell yeah man, it’s almost here! I think your REB might be a tad low, meh actually if Deng and Kieff work out it should be fine. Wiggins was needed for PTS but I think PTS and maybe 3s are you lowest cats so I would be ThrAGNOF streaming for sure

  9. Yan Yala says:

    Hi JB and Slim, relatively new fantasy player here but of all the sites I’ve read for fantasy, this is my favorite, great job.

    my league is a ESPN head to head, standard 9 categories BUT… instead of getting a point for each category you have highers stats, you only get 1 point for winning the majority of of categories. That makes me believe punting to solidify my strengths is extremely important. In my opinion I have a balanced team (not ideal)

    PG- Lowry, Jeremy Lin
    SG- Derozan, Fournier
    SF- Gay, Hollis-Jefferson, Parsons
    PF-Aldridge, Myles Turner
    C- Towns, Valanciunas,Jusuf Nurkic
    IR- Danny Green

    Im already thinking about trading but which categories you think I should target based on my team? I just need to win 5 categories but dont want to trade and end up with a more balanced team

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Yan Yala: Hey man, awesome really appreciate that! Yup 100% with you, you’re def punting a few cats in that format. I think I might punt points and think about dealing DeRozan or Gay. You have pretty good %s, I dunno if your STL are that great so might look to shop RHJ too if he starts hot

  10. decaf says:

    Hi JB/Slim,

    Just finished our 12-team 9-cat auction roto.

    Kemba Walker – $37
    Evan Fournier – $10
    Nicolas Batum – $20
    LaMarcus Aldridge – $29
    Brook Lopez – $26
    Avery Bradley – $4
    Nikola Jokic – $19
    Jonas Valanciunas – $13
    Gorgui Dieng – $11
    Goran Dragic – $21
    DeMarre Carroll – $1
    Kent Bazemore – $7
    Reggie Jackson – $2


    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @decaf: Love that buy of RJax! Ummmm, scoring is a little low, ast are def very very low. I’d look for a scoring PG, even someone blah like Derrick Rose would fit well

      • decaf says:

        @JB Gilpin: Yeah, I can see that. I lost my bid for Rubio by $1, otherwise my AST would have been fine. I figure I can trade one of my bigs for a PG early on. Who do you think is a good sell-high candidate among my PF/Cs?

        Thanks as always, your site has been a huge help in draft preparation! ^_^

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:

          @decaf: Damn, yeah that woulda been a good get. I kinda like your values across the board, so I might give it a few games and determine your best sell high from there. Appreciate that, thanks for dropping by!

  11. Fenris-77

    Fenris-77 says:

    I notice you have TJ McConnell on there twice at both 149 and 150. Who’s missing that should be in that second slot (if anyone)?

  12. Tony C says:

    JB thanks for your time and your opinion in advance.

    I drafted a few nights ago in a 12 team, 9-cat, H2H league as follows:
    1. #8 Antetokounmpo
    2. #17 Lowry
    3. #32 Jokic
    4. #41 M.Turner
    5. #56 Crowder
    6. #65 A.Bradley
    7. #80 A.Gordon
    8. #89 Embiid
    9. #104 Hollis-Jefferson
    10.#113 Bazemore
    11.#128 Noah
    12#137 E.Turner
    13.#152 Josh Richardson

    Thoughts on my team? I think I overdrafted in a few places for my big men but I really wanted Jokic, Turner and Embiid and I thought all would of them would be gone if I waited for the next round. Anyway I feel like my team lacks assists and 3’s. I put Richardson on my IR already today and picked up Tim Frazier. I am contemplating dropping Evan Turner for either Seth Curry, Tyler Johnson or Jamal Murray. Also would you keep Richardson on IR or pick up another IR player such as Tyreke, Beverley or Bayless? Thanks again JB!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Tony C: Yup I’m with ya, AST and 3s are light. Well, 3s aren’t that bad. Nah I think I would hold Turner for the dimes. Backend of your roster isn’t a ton of scorers, so I would look to stream scorer-types. Ummmm, nah I think I’m with ya in IL-ing J Rich

  13. Matt G! says:

    Hi Jb and Slim! First of all, just wanna say thank you for all the hardwork you put in doing these rankings, projections etc! It certainly helps all of us! Haha. Anyways, finished an auction draft few hours ago. 14 team league, 9 cat (FTM instead of TO). Any thoughts or opinion?

    Danny Green
    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
    Kieff Morris
    Lou Will

    FG% punt? I think i’m a little low on boards? Thanks in advance!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Matt G!: Thanks man, appreciate that! Man Harden is sooooo good in that format. Def a FG punt. Yeah you have some nice out of position guys to help with REB, but it still is a little low as are blocks. I’d look for the first big man add that comes along and hope it hits

  14. Drez1 says:

    Would you guys trade Gordon Hayward for Jrue Holiday in a 20 team h2h? (standard cats, + DD, TD, and a/t ratio instead of TO). I need another PG, and it seems like Hayward will probably regress this season with all the offensive options the Jazz have now. Thanks.

    • Drez1 says:


      Oh, and it’s a punt ft% build in a dynasty.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:

        @Drez1: Mehhhhh, I think I’d lean holding Hayward, I think you get more production this year and I think he’s a year or two younger

  15. Chris says:

    Hey JB!

    Thanks Man. and Rudy thanks! So I’m in a 12 team league roto h2h 9 cats and I have the #2 overall pick. I’m thinking either Curry or Westbrook. I know you have Harden #2 but will you be disappointed in me if I don’t take him? LOL thats questions #1.

    I have been pretty successful over the past 5 years going big small big small for the first 6 picks and seeing where it goes from there. I am considering however, going Curry/westbrook and then Drummond, Jordan. What do you think? Am I crazy? I would obviously be punting FG % but it would give me a huge advantage in Boards and Blocks.

    Last question. I took our Bucks to go over 36.5 wins on the season, what do you think?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Chris: Yup, all Rudy helping here! Hah no I wouldn’t be, all the top 4 are really close. I’m all for that strategy, someone did it in my RCL this afternoon and his team looks nasty. Hmmmm that’s a good number. I’ll go over as well, but barely. Middleton hurts….

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @JK: Are you looking for that grid but updated? I’m not sure where to go…

  16. JJ says:

    5th pick. Is taking Giannis over Towns crazy?

    Big Giannis fan, I guess I would have to take a top 4 guy if he fell to me. Thoughts? Great rankings by the way

    • Tony C says:

      I expect Gianniis to have a great year but Towns could be the fantasy MVP. I’d stick with KAT st 4th pick. I’d only consider Durant, curry, harden or Westbrook over Towns.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:

        @JJ: @Tony C: Not crazy, but I think there’s a little bit of a gap there. I still have him firmly 6 right after Towns

  17. Thunder from Down Under says:

    Hi Slim and JB,

    Just some quick questions:

    Who would you take out of: Lin, Collison and Knight all three are available? Currently starting Knight but think Lin could be more valuable or is collison worth stashing?

    Would you have those guys in front of Bradley?

    Currently have Bradley and Knight on roster but just wanted your thoughts on adding either Lin or Collison instead.

    Thank you very much guys.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Thunder from Down Under: I think I rank them Collison, Knight, Lin, but all within a few spots. I’d go Knight if needing 3s, I think Collison is best in a vacuum. And nah, due to PG runs and shortages that happens in drafts I have them all ahead of Bradley.

  18. Scott says:

    5 leagues so far and my best pick was #8.

    One more chance tomorrow to get one of the big 4!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Scott: RCLs, I had pick 7, 11, 12, 2, 10. At least the 2 was in the vs. Slim league!

    • Slim

      Slim says:

      @Scott: I had 12, 6, and 10.
      Whiteside/Wall, Giannis/Drummond, Giannis/Wall.

  19. Nont nontiskul says:

    Hi jb what do you think of my team and which area should I improve 18 teams roto

    Isiah Thomas
    Amir Johnson.
    Bench. Harkless , KJ McDaniel , brogdon

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Nont nontiskul: Def could use a few more AST. Covington is really annoying to own in Roto. Could use a few more REB. Whiteside can prob carry BLK himself. A good rebounding AST source for Covington? I would try shopping that deal

  20. kb says:

    thoughts on team needs?

    Harden, J. Hou
    Favors, D. Uta
    Porzingis, K. NY
    Walker, K. Cha
    Ricky Rubio Min – PG
    Carmelo Anthony NY – SF,PF
    Paul Gasol, C, SAS
    Jusuf Nurkic, den, c
    Brandon Knight Pho – PG,SG
    Thaddeus Young Ind – SF,PF
    Jrue Holiday PG NOLA
    Kentavious Caldwell Pope, Det SG
    Tim Frazier NO – PG
    Jared sullinger, tor, PF/c
    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Cha – SF
    Zach Randolph Mem – PF,C
    Amir Johnson, bos, PF/c
    Zaza Pachulia, GSW, C

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @kb: Deep rosters! You’ve got a boatload of REB! Only thing that really sticks out is FG%, but I don’t see anything too dire right now. Nice draft!

  21. Sumeet says:

    9-cat 10 team draft just finished. How do you think I did/think I need to make significant changes?

    (6) Kawhi
    (15) Millsap
    (26) Bledsoe
    (35) I. Thomas
    (46) Dieng
    (55) Paraons
    (66) Crowder
    (75) Gortat
    (86) Darren Collison
    (95) George Hill
    (106) Demarre Carroll
    (115) Nurkic
    (126) Barton
    (135) Mitzi
    (146) JaMychal Green

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Sumeet: Nothing is really sticking out to me! Like all of these picks at their values, esp. 115 Nurk! I’ve got no real issues to point out here! Mayyyybe scoring if I had to pick something?! But not by a lot at all, great team

  22. Jay says:

    9CAT H2H 12 Team League

    Got offered Winslow for Taj Gibson


    PG. Kemba, Schroder, Collison, G Hill
    SG. Harden, E Gordon
    SF. Parsons, Marcus Morris
    PF. Pau Gasol, Jamychal Green, Taj Gibson
    C. Brook Lopez, Vucevic, Nurkic

    Important to note that i have 14 players with only 13 slots (Collison on IL for two weeks). So someone will need to be dropped at that point. What do you think about this trade?

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Jay: I’d take the deal, so much more upside. Plus his question mark in FT% you have fixed with Harden

  23. v00dr00 says:

    I know this is almost sac-relig here, but do we think Terrence Jones should be bumped up a smidge? He’s looked fantastic in preseason play. Sorry for bringing it up Razzballers

  24. Sam says:

    Hey guys – dont think my post from before posted but if it did I’ll delete it.

    Just finished up a 9-cat 10 team H2H draft. Let me know if you guys think I should make any significant moves:

    PG: Bledsoe, Isaiah Thomas, Darren Collison, George Hill
    SG: Kawhi, Barton
    SF: Parsons, Crowder, Carroll, Mirza
    PF: Millsap, Dieng, JaMychal Green
    C: Gortat, Nurkic

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Sam: Nope I think you’re good re: posts. Def a little light in scoring. D stats look great, 3s are def really good. Could maybe use a few more REB too. Someone like Zach Randolph could be a big help and is cheap

  25. Patty Mills Is My Homeboy says:

    JB and Slim,

    Epic work again on the pre-season content. Looking forward to an interesting fantasy season with some newish faces looking to make a big impact. Got a kinda shallow 10 team, 9cat H2H league with 10 active, 2 bench, 1 IR. I had 5th pick and ended up with this lot. Pretty happy overall but think I may be a little light in assists and may need some high volume FT to balance Gobert. What do you reckon, do I need to find anything in particular? I generally like to build around high %s and low TOs.

    5 – KAT
    16 – Lowry
    25 – Poison Goose
    36 – Gobert
    45 – Teague
    56 – Conley
    65 – Gorgui
    76 – Bazemore
    85 – Collison
    96 – Wes Matthews
    105 – Nowitski
    116 – DeMarre Carroll

    Thanks again guys.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Patty Mills Is My Homeboy: Thanks man, pumped for the season as well! Def a good %s/TO team! FG% might be a little iffy though. Mannnnn, 105 for Nowitzki! Great value. I actually think your AST is pretty decent. I would just weigh getting a little more FG% in your line-up, it looks like a good team!

      • Patty Mills Is My Homeboy says:

        @JB Gilpin: Thanks man, yeah good point about the FG%. I grabbed the goose in the 3rd as I wanted to sure up some blocks but then Gobert seemed good value in the 4th so I’m probably well covered there. What do you think about moving the goose for a high FG% guy or is he worth holding to see what year 2 brings? I’m high on the kid after owning him and watching last year so I’m hesitant. Otherwise any other candidates to move?

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:

          @Patty Mills Is My Homeboy: Yeah Goose makes it tough for FG. yeahhhhh I think you have enough BLK and enough 3s to be able to lose him for sayyyy, Brook Lopez? Horford? Those are the guys in the same range I debate in that spot. Nah I like the rest of your roster, i think that would be the biggie

        • Slim

          Slim says:

          @Patty Mills Is My Homeboy: No way. You’re fine once Collison gets back. Just dominate with Goose. There’s also a very high probability he improves on his FG%, the question is by how much. I also think you would take a good hit to blocks. Only 4 bigs outside of Dirk. Hold the Geese.

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:

            @Patty Mills Is My Homeboy: @Slim: Stop REL biasing on my comments! Besides, going to Brook isn’t a huge BLK downgrade

            • Slim

              Slim says:

              @JB Gilpin: sure but you gain what? and don’t you dare call Brook a good rebounder, per36 career 8.2! Goose was 9.3 per 36 last year and his minutes are definitely going up. So is the hit to 3s, stls, blks, TOs, FT%, and I would say boards, worth a bump in FG% whilst I would also argue adding injury risk in Lopez and losing any simblance of upside in Goose? This seems obvious to me…

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:

                @Patty Mills Is My Homeboy: @JB Gilpin: @Slim: He doesn’t need 3s at all, Brolo actually more STL last year, TO I think will be about the same, FT Brolo gets more volume at a good % too so I think that’s a wash, and with no Thad, Brolo gonna get REB. I thought you agreed Brolo didn’t have injury risk with that foot anymore? Zinger had some nagging stuff. Agree to disagree, I think Brolo helps this build more

                • Slim

                  Slim says:

                  @JB Gilpin: Goose was higher steals per36 and his minutes are going up. Lopez was .787 FTs on 5.9 attempts per36, Porzingis was .838 on 4.2. Can’t compare 28 min to 34 unless you think Goose only gets 28 again. BroLo was 8.3 per36 boards, Goose was 9.3. RHJ will take boards, Booker was a smidge better per36 rebounding than Thad and he had to contend with Gobert and Favors and is much higher than Thad for his career.. I don’t agree to disagree!!! hehe

                    • Patty Mills Is My Homeboy says:

                      @JB Gilpin: Awesome guys appreciate the input. I know on paper that Brolo has value but I just find him so boring. I might ride the goose for the time being and can always later go after a Brolo/Horford type if he’s sinking me. I know Rose isn’t a top end distributor but maybe him and Noah will give the goose some better looks and surely Rose and Melo will take all of those bad shots at the end of the 24!
                      Enjoy opening night!

                    • JB Gilpin

                      JB Gilpin says:

                      Agree man, Goose is a ton more fun to watch! Great start tonight. Yeah no need to rush a deal, we got a long marathon to go. Good luck the rest of the night!

  26. E says:

    what do you think of this team? Obviously I punted FT%, think i may have punted points too unfortunately. h2h 9 cat

    PG – Rubio
    SG – Curry
    SF – Ariza
    PF – Drummond
    C – Jordon
    UTIL – Howard
    UTIL – Capela
    UTIL – Danny Green
    BN – Elfrid Payton
    BN – Marvin Williams
    BN – Robert Covington
    BN – TJ Mcconnell

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @E: Yeah you’re def a punt PTS too haha. It’s really easy to accidentally do since the FT punt bigs are all low scorers. Well, Drummond is OK. I def would try to shore up TO a little better for this build, and honestly might even be worth shopping Curry. I would try to move Covington for sure though, low FG% which brings you down, you don’t need 3s, and he turns it over too much

      • E says:

        @JB Gilpin: yeah my scoring point guard targets went a little higher than I expected. Once that happened I tried to sure up 3s and steals to go with rebounds, blocks, and fg%

        Definitely going to be on the wire early to get some scoring and reevaluate in a couple weeks. (Dwight can return to 20 ppg, right!?)

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:

          @E: Yup the PG runs continue to be a theme every year it feels like haha. Hahaha I wouldn’t quite go that far for Dwight, but he should get a little boost! …as long as he can stay healthy

  27. Chris says:

    Ok man I’m dying to know, I’m kinda torn, I thought you had a few guys higher than I would have taken them but I went with them anyways.

    12 team 9 cats h2h
    G (4)-Curry-Teague-Schroeder-Dunn
    F- (4)-Griffin-Porzingis-Harris-Randolph
    Bench 3-Jennings-Turner and I honestly think I pushed the wrong button Tyreke Evans, out for the year isnt he?

    On elast thing, tell me our Bucks will cover over 36.5!

    Thanks JB! I’ll be on here a lot this year!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Chris: I think the Bucks can do it! Nah Evans might be back by early December, it’s still risky though. You’re pretty much a BLK punt team but REB look preatty good. FG% a little iffy too, I know you spent a high pick on him, but Porzingis traded for a high boarder with better FG% might fit ya

  28. G1B5ON says:

    Hi. I’ve only just come across your website this year.
    Interested in your thoughts on my team.

    14 team 9 cat roto.
    G: Kyrie Irving, Eric Bledsoe, Darren Collison
    F: Nic Batum, Chandler Parsons, Thad Young
    C: Anthony Davis, Robin Lopez, Tristan Thompson
    Uti: Gary Harris, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

    Should I keep Tristan Thompson for boards and high FG%?
    There are a few Cs available such as Andrew Bogut, Tyson Chandler and Willie Cauley-Stein.

    p.s. I know that my team is very high risk with a lot of injury prone players, but I thought I’d take the high risk high reward route this season.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @G1B5ON: Glad you found us, thanks for dropping by! Thompson’s FG% is a little misleading given the low volume, I would get Chandler I think. More rebounds which you could use. Love the low TO rate! Yeah a lot of injury risks, but I like the squad a lot!

      • G1B5ON says:

        @JB Gilpin: Thanks JB. Good to get an unbiased opinion as I’m from Melbourne and love Bogut. But will pick up Chandler on your advice. Lol.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:

          @G1B5ON: They’re definitely really close. I just think Chandler will board a little more, I think he’s gonna play more outta the gate than some expect

  29. cliffyoung93 says:

    Hey JB! Love that you’re doing this again. Could you see how I did on my draft
    10 man H2h
    I drafted to punt points and FT%— i feel like i may not have enough rebounds what do you think?

    1. (10) Giannis Antetokounmpo PG,SG,SF
    2. (11) Hassan Whiteside C
    3. (30) Mike Conley PG
    4. (31) DeAndre Jordan C
    5. (50) Evan Fournier SG,SF
    6. (51) Darren Collison PG
    7. (70) Bradley Beal SG
    8. (71) Otto Porter SF
    9. (90) Clint Capela PF,C
    10. (91) Elfrid Payton PG
    11. (110) Kyle Korver SG,SF
    12. (111) Kent Bazemore SG,SF
    13. (130) JaMychal Green PF

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @cliffyoung93: Appreciate it man, it’s good to be back! Yeah not a lot of rebounders past DJ, but 1/2/4 picks are so high in boards I think you’ll be OK. Def a punt FT, FG% should be solid. Seems like a high pick for Fournier given the build, I might look to shop him for one more FT punt big

  30. Eazy E says:

    Hey JB! Here we go again! As always, wanted to show you my team and get your thoughts (12 team, 9-cat, h2h):
    Marcus Morris
    Buddy Hield
    Jrue (IL)

    Any concerns? Thoughts/comments/suggestion?

    Thanks man!

    • Eazy E says:

      Key FA:
      Matt Barnes
      Danny Green
      Courtney Lee
      Evan Turner
      TJ Warren
      Josh Richardson

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:

        @Eazy E: Ft punt time! And looks like your scoring is almost a punt too. Def low in AST too, you need Jrue back in the worst way. Could benefit from a scoring PG or two ala Rose and Wade as buy low examples. Not seeing a waiver move for ya yet, but if you can nab a PG that emerges off the wire, I think it’ll help a ton!

        • Eazy E says:

          @JB Gilpin:
          I am banking on the upside in points from Hassan and DJ and points and assists from Schroder and Colli. Didn’t want to get another PG to keep my FG and TO strong. I’m also thinking of improving STL without hurting other cats. Does it make sense?

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:

            @Eazy E: Yeah Whiteside should be fne, I dunno if DJ is gonna help much there. It’s not bad, but you lack premium scorers, only Kawhi will top 20 PPG most likely. I actually think your STL are pretty good!

            • Eazy E says:

              @JB Gilpin:
              Thanks, JB! Appreciate it!

              • JB Gilpin

                JB Gilpin says:

                @Eazy E: Any time!

  31. Blint says:


    I got offered Teague for my Gasol .
    My current PF/C are Deandre Jordan, Nurkic, Marc Gasol,JaMychal Green, Marvin Williams , Bogut and Taj Gibson. My current PGs are Chris Paul , Bledsoe, Tim Frazier, Mudiay! I do need PG help but my C’s are boom or bust! what say you Mr JB! I was half expecting Andy Behrens to pop up on my screen and tell me what I should do !

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Blint: Yo! Hahaha if only Behrens knew our teams well enough… I have Gasol ranked higher and I actually think your PG depth isn’t too bad, I think I would hold

      • Blint says:

        @JB Gilpin:
        Thank you kind Sir!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:

          @Blint: Any time!

  32. Dante Green says:

    Should I drop Josh Richardson and try and get Delly instead? Who do you think will have a better first month? What I’m planning to do is a week before Hayward comes back I will move Kieff and either one of Josh or Delly for a C; and also freeing up a space for Hayward in the process. I know Jrich hasn’t practiced yet so rust could be a factor, right? If that’s the case his value could be low which means I could have a hard time moving him.

    • Dante Green says:

      @Dante Green:

      Should I also consider dropping Jrich for Tjones (instead of Delly) if overall value were the issue? Haha. I don’t even know why I’m including Tjones in the discussion. LOL He’s a pain in the ass despite the huge upside

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:

        @Dante Green: Yeah I’d get Delly. J Rich still coming off injury, so I would suspect not huge minutes outta the gate. Hah yeah I’ll stick with Delly of the 3, although jones is moving up a little for me for the upside.

  33. Nukna says:

    Hi, JB!
    I’ve been playing fantasy for 10+ years, but somehow managed not to bump into your website until this offseason. Honestly, this is the highest quality fantasy analysis I’ve seen so far, great job by you and the rest of the crew!
    I planned to pause this season because I get too involved in fantasy, but could not resist the urge.
    So, I drafted yesterday in a 10-team 9-cat H2H league and, after having gone for well-balanced rosters before (with solid success), drafted a punt-FT% team for the first time:

    G Curry (2) Rubio (42) Payton (79) G.HIll (99) E.Gordon (122)
    F Crowder (59) Batum (62) Mirotic (102) T.Jones (119)
    C DAJ (19) Drummond (22) Gobert (39) Nurkic (82)

    Dropped Mirotic (worried about the role) for D-Will (as long as he’s healthy), to solidify AST.
    In my opinion, I should be very good in REB, BLK, STL and AST, solid in FG% and 3PT.
    Points seem to be weak (not an intentional punt).

    Bottom line, I’m satisfied with the outcome, but would appreciate your feedback.

    Thanks in advance!
    Once again, great job, thank you for your effort!
    Greetings from Serbia!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @Nukna: Wow, so honored for that praise, I really appreciate that! Hah yeah, gotta have at least ONE league! Hah. Yeah Pts are low, which is the tough thing to account for when FT punting. Agree with your assessment, and I think your TO are decent too, although Batum hurts a little there. All for D-Will over Miro. Your 3s are awesome! I think Batum makes the most sense to shop given I like your AST and you could cut a few TO, and maybe get a more pure scorer with low TO ala DeRozan. Thanks again for dropping by!

  34. james says:

    Hey Jb Two year reader, 1st time Roster Poster. Glad to finally submit my team before the season starts.
    12 team h2h 9 cat standard yahoo, punted ft% .
    ( *similar to the guy who posted above me actually /\, so probably similar advice huh ;))

    1. (3) Stephen Curry
    2. (22) DeAndre Jordan
    3. (27) Andre Drummond
    4. (46) Goran Dragic
    5. (51) Jae Crowder
    6. (70) Jeremy Lin
    7. (75) Marcin Gortat
    8. (94) DeMarre Carroll
    9. (99) Elfrid Payton
    10. (118) Jrue Holiday
    11. (123) J.R. Smith
    12. (142) Taj Gibson
    13. (147) JaMychal Green
    14. (166) Tyson Chandler

    appreciate the rankings and the work you guys do!

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @james: Hey man, thanks so much for reading and now commenting! Man, love that Curry/FT punt/FT punt build, it’s so tough. Love your dimes, pretty good TO. Jrue healthy will make this team pretty unstoppable. Until he’s back, maybe your scoring is a little light, but the rest of this looks really good, gonna be a tough team to beat!

      • james says:

        @JB Gilpin:

        Never had this high of a pick before so yep I’m excited. Thanks for taking a look. Good luck in your leagues!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:

          @james: Hah yeah, it def makes life easier! Appreciate that, good luck as well!

  35. v00dr00 says:

    Alright, next team up:

    10 DeMarcus Cousins, Sac C K
    22 Anthony Davis, Nor PF K
    34 Draymond Green, GS SF K
    46 Isaiah Thomas, Bos PG K
    58 Myles Turner, Ind PF K
    70 Gorgui Dieng, Min C
    75 Darren Collison*, Sac PG
    94 Avery Bradley, Bos SG
    99 Tristan Thompson, Cle PF
    118 Eric Gordon, Hou SG
    123 Marvin Williams, Cha SF
    142 Jamal Murray, Den SG
    147 Bismack Biyombo, Orl C
    166 Jared Sullinger*, Tor PF
    171 Taj Gibson, Chi PF

    Put Sullinger on IR and scooped up Jerami Grant. Feel pretty solid here, but as is tradition, I need Razz blessings and guidance. Appreciate the help gents.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:

      @v00dr00: Nice nab of Grant! Dray fell to 34?! Your rebounds and BLK are insane. Def would use one more PG. I woulda gone PG over Tristan… Love that value for Bradley! But yeah, I would try to shop a big for one more AST source, utter dominance up front tho!

      • v00dr00 says:

        @JB Gilpin: Turner & Murray for Conley? I was aiming for Conley but simply couldn’t pass up on Dieng at 70 and was still able to nab Collison at 75, which I think he’ll eclipse that draft spot easily.

        • Slim

          Slim says:

          @v00dr00: Nah, Myles is the real deal and I think Conley loses touches to Parsons. I’d look lower end, Tristan, Biyombo, Taj are all expendable. I’d look to move one of those for a low end PG (DellaV) or just drop one when one presents itself.

          • JB Gilpin

            JB Gilpin says:

            @v00dr00: @Slim: I’d rather do the drop, but I think Conley would be a nice fit. Helps bring in AST while keeping TO low with Cousins and Dray. But if you can get Delly for Taj as a drop, I would prefer that

          • v00dr00 says:

            @Slim: Thanks for not letting me do anything crazy. I love me some Myles.

            • JB Gilpin

              JB Gilpin says:

              @Slim: @v00dr00: Hah yeah I do too, but it’s still a lot of touches needing to go around for the Pacers. Like him a lot though too 🙂 He was a big call of ours last yr

              • v00dr00 says:

                @JB Gilpin: well there’s now word of Tyler Johnson getting full backup duties by Dragic. Tempted to anoint him as the low end pg I bed here. Think I drop any of these guys for him?

                • v00dr00 says:

                  @v00dr00: I butchered that. Is TJ the pg I need here or not? Haha

                  • JB Gilpin

                    JB Gilpin says:

                    @v00dr00: Ummmm, I would rather Dellavedova as an example, but yeah he should fit!

                    • v00dr00 says:

                      @JB Gilpin: My buddy scooped him before I made my Grant pickup. Would you trade Taj or Grant for Delly? Would love to keep Grant though 🙁

                    • JB Gilpin

                      JB Gilpin says:

                      Sure, I would float Taj for him. Yeah I kinda wanna see what Grant does too 🙂

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