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With the full 2014-15 Fantasy Basketball Rankings now complete, let’s take a look at the top 75.  Captain N is aboard!  Captain on the bridge!  The respect he garners trumps captain Russell Crowe with long hair… Captain Patrick Stewart with no hair… Captain N has a huge ass flat top!  And this captain is Nerlens Noel; double the N for twice the… nifty…?  Twice the… neat hair?  This captain will put non-believers 20,000 leagues under the sea!  Here’s my top 75 for the 2014-15 Fantasy Basketball Season (based on 9-cat H2H):

51. Nerlens Noel, Philadelphia 76ers – Somebody likes Noel!  With the redonkulous draft class making a big splash in 2014-15 fantasy drafts, people are overlooking Noel  – which is impossible since he’s 7 foot 9 (counting the hair)!  I’ll admit it.  “My name is JB, and I’m letting Summer League impact my ranks a little…”  “Hello JB!”  Averaging over two steals and right at three blocks per in 4 Summer League games, Noel also flashed a polished offensive game.  Just at the eye level, Noel looked absolutely awesome.  On a team with anemic post options, Noel is going to get all sorts of look on O while racking up the stats on D.  Of course there’s risk – the Sixers might not stretch him out for huge minutes, and well, it’s the Sixers.  But with this rank, I’m shooting for the upside and surely going to OD on Noel hype and draft him on each and every one of my teams.

52. Marcin Gortat – Washington Wizards - 52 is my lucky number, maybe I should flip flop these two!  While the Ten Foot Pole isn’t exactly the most exciting draft pick, he finished 31st overall last year and really nothing seems unreplicable (?) from his stat line.  The real question is the health, but I’m not as worried as most.  The Polish Sausage played 81 last year, only 61 in his final stint in Phoenix, but the full 66 in 11-12’s lockout.  A dubdub a night, a block and a half, good FG% at around 54… It’s not sexy, but I’ll insert that weird bird-looking bald head into my line-up without much hesitancy (weird sentence, huh?).

53. Tim Duncan – San Antonio Spurs – Wanna win your 2003 fantasy league?!  These are the ranks for you!  Haha, while old, while so frustratingly benched that you’ll have a Pop voodoo doll, Tim Duncan still had a top 40 season last year.  Well, finished 40th exactly, but 39th per game as well.  After that humungo resurgence in 12-13, I think a regression back to what we expected in 13-14 might make him a value this season.  The minutes might scare you, but he’s actually been under 29:09 in three of the past four years while still being a pretty good value.  Don’t be afraid to slot Duncan in your AARP spot.

54. Dwight Howard – Houston Rockets - Ewwwww, Dwight Howard in 9-cat leagues!  One of the most league setting-variant, roster construction-dependent guys to select on draft day just won’t be on any of my teams.  As we’ve talked in the comments and on last week’s Pod, I’m not a punter!  I’m not Todd Sauerbrun!  Although he was pretty awesome… Howard just isn’t a 9-cat player, and while he actually finished out of the top 100 in total value, you have to take those algorithms with a grain of salt.  The high-volume horrific FT shooting is the blunt force trauma, then to top it off, the 3+ TOs he’ll have a game is the second degree burn.  Still, if you’ve built a FT-punting team without too many TOs, Dwight would be a solid pick if he lasts this long.  But it just won’t be for any of my teams.

55. Thaddeus Young – Minnesota Timberwolves (we think) - We’re still waiting for Adam Silver to finally officialize the big trade, but it’s all but certain big Thad is going to be a big Wolf.  Thad the impaler!  With a nickname like that, you’d think he’d like moving into the wilderness there in the Midwest.  Siberia-ish?  But after a top 30 finish last year, his stats won’t like the move!  Thad was an absolute beast last year, including a preposterous 2.1 steals.  I thought it was a mammoth outlier, but he was actually at 1.8 in 12-13.  After re-incorporating the three point ball, it unfortunately sunk his FG% to a career-low 45% and I don’t think he’s a 17.9 PPG scorer there in Minny.  I’d grab him earlier if my PGs are shoddy on the swipes, but I think he’ll be a little overdrafted.

56. Deron Williams – Brooklyn Nets - “Do you feel lucky, punk?”  …Man I was trying to think of other gambling movie lines and drawing a blank… “He outplay me!”, in John Malkovich’s Russian voice… I got nothin’… Speaking of nothin’, Williams has no ankle cartlidge.  I’m no doctor, but that can’t be a good thing!  Despite the injury-woes, the former first-rounder years ago was still only 55th in per-game as the collection of over-the-hills there in Brooklyn lacked any sort of fantasy stand out.  His numbers are in obvious decline, as his usage dropped to under 36 minutes for the first time since his 05-06 rookie year.  And not just dropped off, Jason Kidd pushed them over a cliff!  32:10 last year… Which is probably where he’ll be again, but somehow he had a career best 1.5 steals per and still offers a pretty decent upside in less time on the floor.  I’m certainly not reaching, but I could see him being passed over due to his boringness to a pretty low ADP.

57. Trevor Ariza – Houston Rockets - Coming into the ranks, I knew he’d be one of the tougher guys to feel good about.  Just how good was Ariza last year in his ridiculous Wiz breakout?  In total value, he finished ahead of DeMarcus Cousins!  Sure in 8 more games, but still!  According to Basketball Monster, he finished 22nd last year –  but a lot of that stems from good %s and low TOs.  Not that that’s a bad thing, but there’s no way anyone expects another top-25 finish, especially moving to Houston.  While the 2.3 treys, 14.4 PPG and low TOs should carry over, I see the boards and dimes going down as he’ll be a little less involved.  “Just stand there beyond the arc next to PBev, Ariza!”  That’s Harden emphasizing how much everyone else is a role player… Maybe if you didn’t flop while driving every time, Harden!

58. DeMar DeRozan – Toronto Raptors - Nostalgia of a great call!  Nothing is more fun than that.  But trust me, I’ll have nostalgia with a bad call whenever the hell we get to his worthless C teammate… Anyway, DeRozan was a big sleeper for me last year and he had a tremendous season.  Haters last year said it was empty points, but as I pointed out he had increasing assists numbers every season, and it took yet another giant leap forward to 4.0 last year.  While his FG% took a teensy bit of a hit down to 42.9%, he scored a career high 22.7 and added nearly a three a game.  What’s awesome with all those improvements is his TOs were still a very manageable 2.2 per.  There’s no reason not to expect a similar season, which actually was a 42nd overall finish.  I’m imagining his ADP and other ranks will have him lower, so I could see DeRozan on a ton of my teams yet again.

59. David Lee – Golden State Warriors - The Slim effect!  He got his beard all in my face and intimidated me into having David Lee this low.  After beating some sense into me with his didgeridoo, I realized Lee’s stats are just as hollow as Slim’s instrument/weapon of choice.  He’s still an 18/10 guy with a pretty good FG%, but past that – the dimes fell off a ton, he never blocks, and the steals aren’t a big factor either.  Plus he lost 3 minutes a game coming off a hip injury in the 12-13 playoffs.  He’s recovering from yet another surgery for his core (so vague!  Verlander had a core surgery too and look at him!  Wait, way wrong sport…) and should be at 33 minutes per again with a similar stat line.  Which was 59th last year per game.  Safety pick.

60. Klay Thompson – Golden State Warriors - The ThrAGNOF effect!  If this if your first time dropping by Razzball, ThrAGNOF if the principle that you can find threes late in drafts or on the wire throughout the season.  They’re the easiest counting stat to put together, and it’s more for H2H than Roto.  After a step up last year in treys and points, he still does nothing else.  And his overall value is skewed by the low TOs.  Hard to turn the ball over when all you do is camp!  Worse camper than in Call of Duty!  Steph is still there to rack up all the dimes, so don’t reach for Klay at a 40 ADP in H2H leagues when you can stream treys without using a high pick.

61. Andrew Wiggins – Minnesota Timberwolves (we think) - Get out the hype-machine!  A move to Minnesota certainly gives Wiggins a much clearer path to playing time and keeps him my 2nd overall rookie.  But even a clearer path doesn’t mean a starting gig, as Corey Brewer is likely to play the 3 with K Mart the 2.  Still, Wiggins should get his minutes, but the inconsistent PT will hurt his fantasy value.  I thought Wiggins was indeed the best player in the draft and don’t doubt his potential, but people will reach for him.  If he starts slow and the Timberwolves have an awful record, he’d be a good guy to buy low on for the second half.

62. Ryan Anderson – New Orleans Pelicans - Say whaaaaa?!  Yup, I’m all in on Anderson even with the scary spinal injury he suffered last year.  Of course it was a really small sample, but in 18 games he was 18th in per game value in 13-14.  Like Korver and Klay, if you hit the three ball and don’t turn it over (he was ridiculous with under 1 TO a game), the metrics may overrank your value, but I think his upside is worth a pick here.  He was pre-ranked right around the 50s for years, and I see no reason to rank him much lower.  I get the injury risk, but the out-of-position treys with virtually no TOs is going to fit a lot of teams as they build their bigs in the mid-rounds.

63. Jose Calderon – New York Knicks - We’ve been talking about it!  Commenting about it!  And it’s time for JB to lead La Revolucion!  The overall metrics loved Calderon, throwing around their 1s and 0s more recklessly than the easy ones on The Bachelor.  He scored a 45th overall finish with the metric-loving blend of good %s, treys, and low TOs.  His vault in 3-point shooting to 2.4 a game obliterated his previous career best, and other than a really rough 09-10 when he only played 68 games at 26:43 per, he had been at 6.6 Asts a game the past 7 seasons.  It dropped off a ton in the Mavs scheme to 4.7 with Monta Ellis and Dirk Nowitzki taking all the shots, and I think the worry is Carmelo and J.R. Smith will do the same.  Well table that worry!  At least, a little.  I think he can get back to 6.5-7 in the triangle O, as Raymond Felton the Awful (his full Renaissance Fair name) had 5.6 last year!  Jose should see similar production to 13-14 with a few more dimes, with another metric-inflated high seasonal value.

64. Darren Collison – Sacramento Kings – I still don’t get why the Kings hated IT2 so much, but they gave him Das Boot and brought in Colly.  Ray McCallum is a concern to push for a little PT, but Colly’s defensive prowess and less aggressive offensive approach should make him a great fit.  As a starter last year, Colly’s 35 game slash was 14.8/2.5/5.3/1.5/0.2 with only 1.9 TOs.  He hit 1.4 treys, and shot a pretty high volume 3.1-3.6 from the FT line (87.2%).  Everything screams metric-love to me, as I easily see him getting a top-50 overall finish if he holds onto the starting gig all year.  As with Calderon, a little will be fueled by the metric-goodness, and nothing is going to jump out counting-wise, but he’ll be a huge value in your mid-rounds.

65. Jeff Teague – Atlanta Hawks – Ugh… I thought Teague was going to have this solid breakout last year, and instead he was more inconsistent than J-Law in American Hustle.  Overall the numbers were pretty good, but he didn’t improve from deep as I had hoped, the assists dropped with the TOs maintaining, and I’m putting my metric-lovers ahead of him in this mini-PG run.  Teague was killing the dimes through 2013 at over 8 per game (32 games), but in 2014, it dropped to under 6 (47 games).  And a big common denominator happened right at that split – Al Horford‘s season-ending injury.  And the transition immediately afterwards was so brutal, I remember people asking if he was droppable.   A 13.6/2.4/4.6/1.2/0.2 slash with 3.2 TOs and shooting 37.4% over 11 games in January.  Limburger cheese on a Hotlanta day!  “But JB, you love Horford, you’re disproving your point!”  Yup I am!  Do I have a point?  Rarely.  But here it’s that Teague seems like a player volatile to changes, and makes his consistency worrisome.

66. Brandon Knight – Milwaukee Bucks - Knight owners reunite!  I’m back for more!  One of my big sleepers last year had a pretty decent breakout, but unlike my metric-lovers in ranks 63 & 64, Knight got blasted with a 105 overall rank (103 per game).  While the FG% was still rough at 42.2%, even with a big expansion in shots attempted and overall scoring, it was by a pretty good margin a career high.  He got to the FT line pretty frequently with good numbers and you have to take his numbers with a little bit of a grain of salt [lick] in that he only played 1:45 in his debut before pulling his hammy, then under 26 minutes his four games back getting eased in and was terrible – the first two games he came back too early, sat out 5 more, then eased in again.  But he finally hit his stride; from November 29th on his slash looks like 19.1/3.8/5/1/0.3 with 1.6 treys.  And I know it’s arbitrary to pick a 4-game sample, but in a four-game stretch in December (18-23 – coincidentally my birthday is the 19th, so I was happy!), Knight was arguably the best player in fantasy going 25/8.8/7.8 with 2.8 treys and only 2.5 TOs.  Dem fighting numbers!  Having a more dynamic option in Jabari Parker on the court should only help his development, along with Hall of Famer Kidd at the helm.  I see another big step forward.

67. Jimmy Butler – Chicago Bulls – “Waffle!  You waffled JB!”  That’s my accusatory conscience reminding me of my horrible fellow-JB treatment last year.  It also reminds me, “you’re just too lazy to make waffles now that I made you hungry, huh?!”  I loved JB heading into the year, but after a little bit of a rough-ish start, a really poorly reported toe injury kept him out a good portion of the winter.  But he came back strong, including playing an unreal 41:21 MPG in January, and it amped up his numbers to 62nd overall in per-game.  It certainly surprised me when I first saw it in his 13-14 stats, but did you know he shot sub-40% from the field last year?!  39.7.  With Derrick Rose back, I certainly see it going up, but I don’t think he’s a 13.1 PPG scorer again.  And even with his stat line a little empty other than those sexy steals, it’s even emptier when you factor in he played 38:39 per and look at his per-36s.  I have a feeling Butler might be reached for a little bit, it’s very early conjecture, but I’d caution anyone reaching.

68. Luol Deng – Miami Heat – Took me a few seconds to remember what team he’s on now!  The long-time Bull is now a bit of a journeyman on his third team in the past 9 months, and I think for the first time in my fantasy basketball career, I actually LIKE Deng.  Sure I have my Dookie bias, but I see him flourishing on the Heat.  Deng was killin’ it when 13-14 started, on pace for nearly a career best in boards, a by far career high in dimes, and shooting over 45% which he had been well under the previous two seasons.  But after a trade to Cleveland, his output plummeted and he had the bumper sticker “Cleveland DOESN’T Rock!” as he scooted out of town as fast as possible.  As the secondary threat behind Chris Bosh (and, well third I guess when Wade is healthy), Deng should be in line for a 18/6/3 season with a steal, a trey, and good %s.

69. Tony Parker – San Antonio Spurs - I ranked Parker here just to try and find a good “69-ed Mrs. Barry!” joke, but that is enough right there!  Last year was… abysmal.  Lowest minutes played in his career, lost over two dimes a game since 11-12 and 12-13, while also scoring less.  That said, his post-ASG numbers were atrocious, and I think he won’t be quite as off the table as last year.  His name value might make me below the ADP, but in some circles he’ll be passed too often as well.

70. Dwayne Wade – Miami Heat – Back-to-back old boring people!  If you get these two guys in a turn in your middle rounds, you might as well envision your team as Charlie Bucket’s grandparents’ bed.  Even in an anemic season where he’s knees only mustered 54 games, he was still 41st in per-game value.  The string of DNPs and injuries will be tougher to swallow than Ray J, but he’s got upside as hot as Kim’s rack with LeBron outta town.  I think at this price I am missing him in all drafts, I don’t want the headache, but when he is on the court, his output would be worth a 70 pick.

71. Bradley Beal – Washington Wizards – I want to move him up!  I swear!  Love Beal’s real-life game, the sweet sweet stroke, but you guessed it… He’s a ThrAGNOF!  And even being a ThrAGNOF with sub-2 TOs a game, that usual mix of metric-pleasure didn’t extenz to Beal scoring an 88th overall per-game valuation.  Put up more ancillary stats, yo!  But not for longer than four hours…  17.1 PPG, nearly 2 treys, but 3.7 boards, 3.3 dimes, and a bad FG% doesn’t bring enough to the table to secure him a top-70 rank.  I do see some improvements, his AST:TO ratio went up and he’s still young on a really up-and-coming team, but nothing major.

72. Kenneth Faried – Denver Nuggets – Slim loves Faried!  And I, eh, kinda like him.  So if this ends up being well-below the ADP, I may make a mini-adjustment.  Faried lived up the Manimal nickname post-ASB, rockin’ an 18.8/10.1/1.6/1.1/0.7 slash.  A big factor was Brian Shaw finally played him big minutes, as pre-ASB he was playing only 24:42 to 31:11 post.  Even with the increased PT, the FG% went up (54.6% in 13.6 attempts a game is pretty high volume).  But the negatives came as well; even though he improved his FT% from 58.8% to 69.7%, it also hiked in volume which is no good for a sub-70%er.  And then those sad TOs at 2.4 per.  He’s an amazing player to watch, one of my favorites, but even if he does become a 1+ 5-catter, it will be very narrowly in AST/STL/BLK that I think he’s just a glorified Zach Randolph with a better FG%.  Slim just threw something at his computer for that line…

73. Robin Lopez – Portland Trailblazers - I just threw something at myself for this rank!  Lopez top 75?!  I feel like shame eating a whole pizza… I guess I have to acknowledge how well RoLo played last year, finishing 27th overall.  Which is scarier than his previous rebounding totals!  A boost to nearly 32 minutes a game shot up his boards to 8.5 last year, finishing with a 11.1/8.5 line including 1.7 blocks.  But what the metrics really like is the 1.0 TOs a game, plus he was an unreal 81.8% from the stripe at 2.4-3 per game.  There’s no reason to think he couldn’t replicate his numbers, and he’s played all 82 games the past two years, as somehow he got all the good healthy genes while Brook Lopez got all the good-at-basketball genes.  I just can’t bring myself to draft him any higher though…

74. David West – Indiana Pacers – This might be the weirdest, boring-est, least fun sleeper call I’ll have this year.  We all know what happened to Paul George, and the Pacers are going to need all hands on deck to fight for a playoff spot.  While I like Rodney Stuckey as a later sleeper as well, I think it’s West taking a big resurgent step forward.  Despite the minutes down to around 30 compared to his 36+ in the New Orleans Hornets heyday, he’s maintained nearly a steal and a block per game, and they’ll be so desperate for his offense that I see the numbers and points rise.  And even if they don’t, his floor is really what he did last year which was a 46th overall finish.  That surprised me!  And puts him in the echelon of my favorite cardinal direction people… Clint Eastwood, ummmm, Peter North? and ummmm all the Chicago Southsiders!

75. Josh Smith – Detroit Pistons - Sounds like Smith is about to get a coaching reality-check.  As Joe Dexter posited in his Pistons Team Preview, Smoove might be seeing the Beench and begin 14-15 as a 6th man.  Van Gundy seems poised to correct some of those awful %s Smith has had in his career, which sunk his metric-hating value to 127th in per-game value.  “Stewardess, please bring the vomit bag!”  There’s no way he shoots 3.4 treys a game again this year (which he shot an ungodly awful 26.4% on), and if he’s truly the 6th man, that should cut into his sinkhole of FT%.  That said, if those %s do recede and the PTS/REB go down a tad, I still think he can bring it to STL/BLK and have another 1.4/1.4 there like last year.  Should easily find 3 dimes as well.  Playing against some second units and defensively on matchups that suit him (Van Gundy emphasizes defensive rotations) I think can keep those defensive stats trucking and hopefully that role will cut down his labradoodles.

 

Whew, rankings take a while!  Sorry this took a bit to finish up, but hopefully these will help shape your own opinions of the mid-to-later rounds as we approach draft days!

  1. Slim

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    Yep, can’t let that one go… Randolph hit 1.0 SPG only once in his career, he’s never come close to 0.7 BPG, and he’s shot over 50% only twice in his career.

    For his career he’s .472/.763/0.1/17.2/9.4/1.8/0.8/0.3/2.1 :32

    So a better, yet not exactly great FT%, is the only thing Randolph has done better in his career than what Faried did to finish off last year. Oh and for the record Randolph’s age 25 year was arguably his best.

    The biggest difference I see is the steals and blocks. In only 28 min the past 2 years Faried has 1.0 of each and 0.9 of each. I pegged him for 1.1 and 0.9 but I could easily see those being 1.3 and 1.1 in 32 min. And finally we’re still only talking about 32 min. What if that jumps to 34 min or if he really breaks out and gets 36 min. The upside here is about as high as anyone.

    There is absolutely no way I’m taking Duncan or DLee over Faried. Gortat is close and Howard is close only if I’m punting FT%. I actually have West a little higher than you but still I like Faried’s upside better. The toughest call I see is Faried vs Noel so I’m going to give that debate it’s own post. And I already know how it’s going to go…

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Slim: Hahahaha I know man, I was just messin’. Mostly kidding with the Zbo slam. Yeah the minutes would be huge if he gets up to 36. There’s no question he should and is deserving.

      DLee over Faried… Eh they do seem pretty close, so maybe I need to move Faried up a little. Def like Duncan a good bit more. And we all know how I feel on Noel :)

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    Awesome read again!
    I love your justifications on players- keen to see slims projections (anyway of importing these to BBM?)
    I’m hoping to get some of Nerlens, Teague, Faried, Beal, Westy and Smithy.
    Interested in Gortat, RAndo and Wiggins but don’t really want any of the other guys.

    Not trying to steal any of your thunder for upcoming rankings.. But any value in Asik? I held onto him a bit through last season hoping for a trade.
    I’ve never rated RAndo, and assuming Brow plays at the 4, Ajinca would be his only other competition for big minutes.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Richo: Thanks man! Nah I just use it as a reference, I think it’s the best year-long fantasy stat site. Asik definitely has value, he’ll be in the 100-150 range, but even at his peak he was maybe 80ish. At least, I think haha… Well Ryan Anderson is gonna play a lot of 5 as well. That’s a big minutes killer there.

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        @JB Gilpin: I reckon I’m going to try and use the draft tracker feature so I’d like to have your stats input to that. If I end up putting them in manually I’ll let you know so you can share to your followers if you like.
        Hopefully everyone else has forgotten about Asik and I can take a flyer real late. Love me some twin towers. Way too keen for the draft!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Richo: Yeah that’d be awesome man! Lemme know if you end up doing that, could be a primo tool.

          Haha I think you’ll have no problem getting Asik a good bit after 100 in most leagues. Twin Towers power!

        • Slim

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          @Richo: I’ve got Asik pretty close to #100 but only draftable if I really fubar’d my bigs. I’m pretty sure he starts at center with the Brow at PF and Anderson off the bench. I think they could get away with just those 3 in that 2 position rotation if they wanted. Top of my head I’d peg him for about 28 minutes. But there’s a little upside for more since Anderson is coming off such a scary injury and we’re still not sure Ryan Anderson can bang with the big boys or even keep pace up and down the floor. I’m way off him this year, no way Anderson makes it on my team. Asik is probably the last 10+ boarder available on draft day but I would only expect the 9/11/0.5/0.5/1.0 he did as a starter with Houston last year. Which really isn’t exciting at all.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Slim: I totally agree with the 3 big man rotation, with Anderson playing most of the 4th though. 28 mins sounds good for Asik.

            • Richo says:
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              @JB Gilpin: Awesome, thanks. Solid fg and rebs for a real late big man. Another NBA pod just shared a link to some website saying they’ve finally found the first mock draft, I’ll sort em out haha

  3. A Hill O' Beans says:
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    Finally, someone from my REL team!

    Actually I’ve got the bookends for this post plus one in the middle. Who knew Noel would be my top player, I thought for sure it would be DeRozan? Oh well, I appreciate the Nerlens love as my REL team needs all the help it can get. What I don’t appreciate are the shots at my boy Jonas……..this is the year JB! I mean, can they really sit him for Chuck Hayes for long stretches this year? I would hope not.

    Keep up the good work guys!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: Woooooooo! DeRozan def is ranked pretty high, but my Noel love knows no bounds. Let’s hope he doesn’t turn into my last year’s awful rank of Jonas! Yeah I think he’ll bounce back some, but he was awful even in decent minutes most of the first half. Jonas will find his way into my top 100 though, unfortunately :)

    • Slim

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      @A Hill O’ Beans: As crazy as it sounds I have DeRozan a few picks higher than JB. Basically swap DeRozan and Noel and that’s how I ranked ‘em. I think about a 50 is where we can expect DeRozan’s ADP to be for most league settings. I like him in the 5th but I think he’s a stretch in the 4th.

      I’ve got JV in the top 100 also. I like how he finished last year but the counting stats really weren’t all that great. I’m thinking best case scenario would be something like 16/10/1/0.5/1.0. He’s a guy I wouldn’t mind gambling on but he would have to fall a fair amount.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Slim: Yeah I like DeRozan a ton, maybe I will have to move him up to reflect ADPs. I don’t know if JV can get to 10 boards, 16 points seems a smidge high too, but I’m heartbroken after last year! I’m crying on the street in the rain!!!!!!!

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          @JB Gilpin: I can definitely see the 10 boards, I mean he had 8.8 last year in only 28 minutes. The 16 points will be a lot tougher IMO, although he managed 16.8/11 in April so maybe they use him a bit more on offense now.

          The biggest disappointment I have is the lack of blocks. Where are the damn blocks JV? He had 1.3 in 24 minutes his rookie year, but last year was definitely a disappointment.

          • JB Gilpin

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            @A Hill O’ Beans: Wow, yeah I thought he was in the low 8s, that April sure helped the average… Points indeed will be tougher, but don’t like him to top either. I know, right on the blocks! Just wasn’t very physical last year, I hinted he might’ve been a little banged up and played through it, but I dunno rough sophomore slump

            • Slim

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              @JB Gilpin: wait wait wait… I said ‘best case’. I in no way think he gets there this year. I’ll spoil this one. For this year I’ve got JV at…

              .540/.780/0/13.5/ 8.9/ 0.8/0.4/1.1/1.8 :30

              There’s something there for sure, I’m just having trouble seeing myself drafting him since I’m starting to see him as a low ceiling guy.

              • A Hill O' Beans says:
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                @Slim: I’m not sure I quite get your rebounding call there. You actually see the 24 year old big man regressing in his best category? I mean, that’s what it would be if he gets 8.9/30MPG when he did 8.8/28MPG in a disappointing year last season.

                I agree with the rest of your numbers, for the most part. If things go well defensively and he’s able to be trusted with more minutes I could see them going a smidge higher, but not much.

                • Slim

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                  @A Hill O’ Beans: The difference here is like 0.1 or 0.2 boards but yes, I think a healthy Amir will do much better than 6.6 boards per which would cut into JV’s boards. I think Pat-Pat gets solid minutes at PF with Amir taking up some center minutes. I think James Johnson is going to play some forward, not sure which but he seems more suited for PF. So ultimately I don’t think JV gets over 30 minutes and could easily see the 28.2 he saw last year due to some ok rotation guys who should see ok minutes.

                  Why do I think he doesn’t progress in boards? Well I’m not convinced his rebounding was all that bad last year. 11.3 per 36 is a pretty big number already and is much higher than the 9.0 per 36 he had as a rookie. In the 2nd half last year Jonas saw an uptick in minutes from 27.9 to 28.7 but had exactly the same 8.8 boards per. My impression is that that is just the kind of rebounder he is and we’re only talking about an extra 1 min per game over that 28.7 number. If you want him to be at 9.0 I’m good with that but really is that going to make or break anyone’s team? Basically 1 extra rebound every 3 or 4 weeks.

                • JB Gilpin

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                  @Slim: I agree with Slim, a ton of big 3s, lots of 4s, lots of rotation types for that team when teams dont have a tradition 7+ footer on the court. A smidge over 9 is possible, but would really need to cement himself as a consistent post presence, which he def didn’t do last year! Haha@A Hill O’ Beans:

  4. Sporto says:
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    Josh Smith killed my team last year. Never again!

    • Richo says:
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      @Sporto: Surely he’d be ok if he wasn’t jacking 4 outside shots a game.. I’m in, he was pick 15 in my league last year.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Sporto: Haha I don’t blame ya man! I think at 75 will be lower than most ADPs, but he’ll still have SOME value. Haha. @Richo: Wow, 15th last year?! That’s pretty huge, I think had him 30-40ish last year, if his ADP is late 60s I think he’s a good gamble in there, but we’ll see when leagues start openin’ up

    • Slim

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      @Sporto: Me too. I’ll take care of my steals and boards earlier and when someone is drafting Josh Smith I’ll draft myself a nice upside wing. I owned Josh Smith once and I agree that was enough.

  5. Lasandro says:
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    I had derozen on my squad last year and taking into account FTM, dude was a bit of a beast at my 2 spot. Surprised he’s not ranked a little higher, particularly with the usage he gets over in Jurassic Park

    • Slim

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      @Lasandro: League settings can really do a number to rankings. I think 5th round is reasonable. I have him closer to the start of the round and JB has him closer to the end. I think taking him in the 4th is a stretch and maybe if I was punting FG% I would consider it but low end 3s, low end steals from a low rebounding, ok assisting wing just doesn’t compare to the other 4th rounders for me.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Lasandro: Yeah he was unreal, def the “clever girl” of the raptors pack. Maybe I’ll move him up a few in the first edit through, but I think right there in the 5th sounds right, in the 4th you’re giving up on some bigger upside guys, I think DeRozan is right at his peak right now.

      • Lasandro says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Haha great JP ref! I guess JV was the raptor that got his ass eaten by the TRex? Let’s go with that.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Lasandro: Thank you sir! Yeah if the T Rex is a metaphor for a respected big man in the NBA, then yes they ate him up! Haha

  6. Jefferson says:
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    What draft position would you say would be the best in an 8 category (no turnovers) 10 team league?

    • Slim

      Slim says:
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      @Jefferson: Durant feels like cheating. It’s like you’re playing with an extra player. I’ve never owned Durant. I bet it’s nice.

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Jefferson: I was gonna say the same thing. 1st or 2nd. preferably 1st to get KD. But 2nd getting Brow is not too shabby either. I think both are pretty far above Curry/LeBron and the difference between late round 2nd rounders and the mid ones isnt too big.

  7. Ken says:
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    Hey everyone dumb question but is there a fantasy league that I could join here? Started playing last year in a 9-cat H2H ESPN league and did pretty well. I am joining that league again, but was hoping to find another league to join as I can’t get enough of fantasy bball lol.

    Tried to look for info on the sight but couldn’t find it. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.

    Ken

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Ken: Of course! We’ll have RCLs launched early next week with a really easy joining a league post. Yahoo fantasy Basketball just opened up, and it’s usually where we play. We do the standard 9-cat as well, 12 team though. I’ll be sure to comment again to ya when they’re open!

      • Ken says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Awesome thanks! Do people usually play for money? Last year the league I played in we just all pitched in $50 and winner takes all.

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Ken: Ummmm we definitely don’t do anything official monetary-wise, but once your league is put together, your league can decide to do whatever you want! But you’re all joining virtually, so hopefully there’s no Nigerian princes who never pay haha.

          • Ken says:
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            @JB Gilpin:

            Makes sense lol. I guess it’s tougher to manage money over the web.

  8. Linsanity Part 2 says:
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    JB or Slim – Keep 6 in a 12 team 9 Cat H2H. I’m planning on keeping: K-Love, Lillard, Batum. For my last three spots, my choices are: M. Gasol, Parsons, Kobe, Nerlens, Bledsoe, Klay and IT2. Who would you pick? Appreciate your input!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Linsanity Part 2: Whoa, nice team! So I’m throwing out Klay and IT2 from the get-go. I think I’m keeping Gasol (I think I have ranked highest) then Bledsoe. I think I have Parsons ahead of him in the ranks, but Bledsoe to the right team next year could really take off. Seems all but certain he’s not on the Suns, so could easily slide into the 2nd or 3rd round next year, I’m just worried about this season.

      • Linsanity Part 2 says:
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        @JB Gilpin: Thanks JB. So, you would keep Gasol and Bledsoe. Would my sixth keeper be Kobe or Nerlens? I’m thinking Kobe…but the flat top is tempting.

        • Ken says:
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          @Linsanity Part 2:

          Hope you don’t mind if I chime in. Personally I’d keep Parsons, Klay, and Bledsoe if given that choice. I think they compliment Love, Lillard, and Batum very nicely.

          With those 6, you’d be pretty nasty on 3s, FTs, points, and assists. Just gotta pick up some guys for boards and steals and you’d be set. With the initial 3 players that you are keeping, looks like you’d have to punt blocks and FGs so there’s no use in keeping Noel or Gasol around. And Kobe is pretty risky imo, so I am not a fan of paying a high price for him.

          Just my two cents, and that’s probably all it’s worth since I only started playing last year lol

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Ken: Yeah the thing with Parsons and Klay – Klay specifically – is I think it overloads him with 3s which he doesn’t really need with Love Lillard and Batum. I’d take the multi-cat upside of Noel and big man stats from Gasol.

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              @JB Gilpin:

              Good point. I guess that’d be a pretty big overkill. I didn’t think Noel would be projected that high, but I’m glad that I’m not the only one high on him. Apparently his FTs are pretty solid too.

              • Linsanity Part 2 says:
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                @Ken: Thanks for the feedback, fellas! Looking forward to the rest of the rankings. Enjoy the weekend.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Linsanity Part 2: Oops, I don’t know how to count! Haha. Yeah I’d go Noel, I have Kobe higher for this year, but he’s only got one good year left in him most likely.

          • Slim

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            @JB Gilpin: Yep JB got this one right. I closest call for me is Gasol vs Parsons. It’s a tough call and I’m having a lot of trouble with it now. Err… Yeah, gun to my head it’s Marc Gasol but I having this sinking feeling it’s the wrong choice.

  9. Eric Echales says:
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    T. Young in the mid fifties ?? Minnesota seems to be a good place for him to keep his fantasy value up. He was just about the only guy on Philly worthy guarding out on the perimeter last year and still put up great numbers. Not sure how Minnesota ranks against Philly in pace but Thaddeus is a beast in my book. I am liking the trade because it seems that I won’t have to reach for him so much this year. I believe that he has not hit his ceiling yet which could offset the new system and possible less touches. He is first team all beast.

    • Slim

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      @Eric Echales: I’ve got That Young at 52 right this second. So basically a 5th rounder. Y! predraft has him at 41. So if we want him it’s probably going to cost us a 4th round pick in a 12er. I’m planning on doing a Thad Young vs Parsons post and I’ll go through each category and hopefully that will show why we like Parsons in the 4th but not Thad.

      As for the scoring… I think there is a ton more competition for the ball in Minny. Kevin Martin is going to get his, he always does. Pekovic is a decent volume big man. But the big problem I see is Wiggins. He’s the future of that team and he should get every opportunity to be ‘the guy’. I absolutely see Thad’s points coming down.

      As for hitting his ceiling… I feel like he busted right through that last year with absolutely no competition for the ball and on what should be a much better team I think we see more of a team player mentality from Thad. A big question mark for me is his 3s. He’s not a good 3-pt shooter and it crushed his FG% last year, but that’s not the only knock on him. His FT% has always been bad for a wing and the 2.1 TOs last year will either come down if he does play a team game or will stay if he tries to be the #1 and #2 options again.

      I think he’s much closer to ’12-’13 numbers in which case he isn’t going to come close to the 50’s ranking we’re giving him. I know I’ll be avoiding.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Eric Echales: Well I’m totally with ya on the trade! Definitely has deflated his value and will help if you’re grabbing him. I just think on a more succinct offense, that yes like you mentioned doesn’t quite have the pace, will hurt. Plus I’m going to use something you like as part of something I don’t like – Thad being the only perimeter guy worth guarding in Philly. Now he’s gotta work his way back in with K-Mart jacking up treys every touch. Plus Wiggins when he’s in. I wrote that before seeing what Slim said, @Slim: and I think we’re both not as high, but hey, you’ll be gettin him without much competition in the 5th round and has the upside to prove us wrong!

  10. TheMuppetManiac says:
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    I’m going into my second year in a keeper league. The league just opened, we don’t draft till Oct. But I was going over my roster. We get to keep 3 players. I do have the second pic in this year’s draft. It’s 12 team H2H. Standard cats + double double and triple doubles. These are who I narrowed it down to keep.

    Damian Lillard – 2nd round
    Joakim Noah – 3rd round
    Eric Bledsoe – 4th round
    Michael Carter-Williams – 9th round
    Markieff Morris – undrafted, so 16th round

    Noah is a lock. I’m worried about Bledsoe with the crowded Suns backcourt. I’m pretty sure I want Carter-Williams’ upside. But I think Morris has the most value. To keep him and use my last pick on him would be a steal right? He’ll probably be a 7th or 8th round pick this year, right? Since he should pick up more minutes with Frye gone. So I’m thinking Noah, Carter-Williams and Morris. Do you agree?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @TheMuppetManiac: I 100%, no questions asked agree on MCW and Morris. I always think about value when assessing keepers, and MCW in the top 50 most places and way higher for me is a guy I really like. And Morris I have out of the top 75, but def is top 100 and I like his upside there too. Lillard, Noah, and Bledsoe all seem to be right around where I value them, and you get some good big man stats, with you on Noah too, but for me those top 3 have a little debate vs. the bottom 2. Good luck in the draft man!

  11. Boom Shakalaka says:
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    Yahoo justopened up their mock drafts and its got me thinking. Between Razzballs and Yahoo’s projections there is quite the discrepancy. Know before you start thinking that I’m questioning your rankings it has more to do with drafting for value. Small example would be Ibaka. You have this ranked 7th where as ESPN/YAHOO have his as 14.

    Know im sure you now where im getting at but let me paint the picture. Lets say im drafting 7th overall so with espn/yahoo projections I could techically draft lets say Harden in the first round then Ibaka in the 2nd???

    If you want to get even more confusing Millsap has an ADP in the 30’s where you guys have him at 13???

    So what do you do??? I mean could I really have HARDEN,IBAKA,MILLSAP as my 1st,2nd and 3rd picks cause with your rankings if I grabbed Harden first IBAKA is already gone in the second and there would be a very slim chance tat Millsap would still be around.

    Talk be throught it guys… whats you strategy in pick with your projections and what the rest of the world will actually be picking at?

    • Boom Shakalaka says:
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      @Boom Shakalaka:

      Talk ME through it guys… whats youR strategy in pickS with your projections and what the rest of the world will actually be picking at?

      I felt the need to rewrite that last sentence…

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Boom Shakalaka: Haha well let’s hope most of my teams can start Harden, Ibaka, Millsap! That’d be an unreal core! So my strategy is to reach for my guys, but get a feel for the draft room. A lot has to do with knowing your league and if people coming in have little biases. Like I just did a football draft with some other fellow Panthers fans in it and reached a tad for Kelvin Benjamin. I think most basketball leagues you could sneak Millsap in the late 2md early 3rd without much issue. So depending on my spot, I might wait until the early 3rd if it seems likely he’ll fall.

      That said, my 2nd rounder has gotta be a guy I really like too, or I’d leapfrog and grab MIllsap. I dunno if that helped at all what I’m thinking on draft day haha!

    • Slim

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      @Boom Shakalaka: This kind of thing is going to get it’s own post.

      For your example, in a 12er, 7th pick Harden means 18th pick Ibaka. We would be hoping he falled. 31st in the 3rd then means we’re hoping no one like Millsap enough to take him a few spots above Yahoo pre-draft ranks.

      1st if Harden is at 7, I’m taking Harden, I have him ranked at 5. Ibaka probably doesn’t fall that far. If he does I’m sure he’ll be at the top of my list. If not then more than likely Millsap will be next up on my list. Do I think he falls/ doesn’t get drafted at Y! pre-draft ranks? I don’t risk it and take Millsap at 18, he’s my guy, and now I have a wing with assists and a big who gives 3s. Next I want a PG and I don’t need big points, and a real(1.7+) shot blocker in the next two rounds irregardless of my ranks cause they will dry up quickly. Could punt FG% but it isn’t necessary. BTW, I would really like that start… personally I would be looking for… any of those PGs around 30, don’t need high end steals or 3s. A big… Noel would be nice, Favors… but he’s at 65… I know. This needs its own post.

      This strategy would be for RCL style, 9cat, H2H, 12 team.

  12. Ken says:
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    I hope the yahoo projections are right lol. I did a few mock drafts with them and always end up with a pretty nasty team.

    How do the Yahoo projections usually compare to the ESPN ones?

    • Boom Shakalaka says:
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      @Ken:

      I mean it all depends on how competitive your league is. If people dont know any better I find alot of people just picking off rankings per round. But do you really think Nerel Noel is going to be around at the 10th round… No! If your in a competive league he shouldnt be there past the 7th.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Ken: Haha I never look too hard at projections after drafts, just so many variables! From what I think I remember, ESPN is usually closer to the previous season and Yahoo goes a tad bolder, but I haven’t really compared them this year.
        @Boom Shakalaka: Is that his ADP right now?!?!?!?! Haha Noel gonna be my sleeper of the year then!

  13. Phranque says:
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    Hi all,
    I just looked at the Yahoo preseason draft rankings. Do they normally amend them before mid-October, when most leagues draft?

    I would think it would be easy for them to adjust their rankings to come closer to the ADP recorded in the “bundles” of practice drafts they run 12 hours a day. Thanks.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Phranque: Hey man, yeah they usually do at least one adjustment before season starts. I remember last year Andrew Bynum’s initial rank was in the 50s! And after he lingered with more knee issues he was re-ranked in the mid-100s. I bet they do use ADPs along with any substantial news/injuries when they do reranks.

  14. Zar says:
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    Nice job again JB,

    Last year, I followed your rankings pretty closely and rocked the world, even with JV stinking it up (Where is he btw? probably never gonna let that one go…much like any Dom Brown hype..)

    I see a lot of rookies up there this time, I can’t remember if you had rookies ranked this high last year. In terms of draft strategy, do you pick the best player available early then use these guys to fill in any gaps in stats?

    All these RCLS are killing me, football is just starting and you’re already starting up the basketball?!?! Are you in any Football RCLs this year?

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Zar: Thanks man, good to see ya! Ugh yeah JV… Should be in 75-100 but not 100% sure haha. Yeah last year I think 90s was my top rook, I think I’m just all in on Parker. Probably only 1 or maybe no other rookies top 100 for me, just the big 2. Elfrid is the question mark. Oh, well I guess I am high on Noel too who is a rook but I forget to think of him that way some times :)

      Yup that’s exactly what I do, get my guys early then fill out stats as I go. Mix in a few upside picks as I go as well.

      Yeah man, we’re gonna be rockin and rollin with em tomorrow or Wednesday. Not in any RCL Football, not doing as much football this year since I’m Razzball retired in fuseball, but hope you rock it man!

      • Zar says:
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        @JB Gilpin: I’m ending up with one of your Panthers in all of my leagues, DeAngelo Williams….He’s my stopgap for me when week 10 byes roll around. You sure you don’t want to join one, maybe incognito? We have an opening in one of my leagues….. the Early Bird League!

        Oh yeah..Nerlens is not a rookie or he is? who knows.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Zar: Haha I really really appreciate it man, but I’m cutting out a lot of the leagues. Be sure to join my RCL Basketball league! I’ll respond here right when the post/signups goes live. Oh, and Kelvin Benjamin is a guy I’m reaching for from my Panthers.

          I don’t think anyone knows about Noel either haha, but making the debut a year later I think is keeping the hype train off him and I love that!

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    JB / SLIM, if you were to go all out on a FT punt strategy, who would you aim to take in the first couple rounds assuming that you have your eyes on Dwight Howard / Andre Drummord in the 3rd and 4th?

    In other words, I’d be aiming to dominate REBS / FG% / BLOCKS / STEALS / TO’s

    I was thinking for the first couple rounds you absolutely need to take a guard and/or maybe demarcus cousins?

    What are your thoughts? (Still debating this strategy in my head)

    Assumptions: (14 man league, 9 CAT including TO’s)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Bostonfan: Yeah I think I would be hoping to come out with two guards to start out. I love Cousins, but I don’t think he helps that strategy too much with where you’ll have to get him. I’m personally not a FT punter, I tend to come out with more balanced teams and I’m avoiding Dwight in most 9-cat leagues. Looking at some other sites’ preranks, I think you’d have to go Drummond first too, as ADPs are going to like Drummond over Howard IMO. But yeah, that’s just me on FT punting, I usually shy away from it.

  16. Ken says:
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    Imo Ibaka and Drummond would be good first picks for this build. Throw Deandre Jordan in there too if you can manage and you’re set. Not sure Drummond will make it out of the second round though.

    I was initially going to go the punt FT and points route, but I am finding it tough to get a 5th category to dominate outside of FG, Boards, Blocks, and TOs. Gonna punt FG% and TOs instead lol

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Ken: I like Drummond too, agree he and Ibaka would be nasty and keep a team pretty balanced.

  17. Bostonfan says:
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    Wow, you don’t think Drummord will make it past 28? You are probably right. I just haven’t had a chance to sit down and do my own personal rankings!

    Totally agree that ibaka and jordan should be on my list. But I would begin to worry about my lack of guards. I would feel safer picking up atleast 1 guard in the first four round with this build. Eyeing Rajon Rondo, Monta Ellis, Ty Lawson, etc…

    • Ken says:
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      I stand corrected lol. Looked at a few projections and it looks like you can get Drummond in the third round, assuming no one is reaching for him.

      @Bostonfan:

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    Maybe it’s just my circle of friends, but it seems like everyone’s going for the punt FT and points build, so guys like Drummond, DJ, Noel, Asik, Rolo, etc. will prob go higher than projected in our draft. But yeah personally I would prob draft Drummond in the 2 round for that build, since our league is a keeper league and he’s only 21 years old.

    Would you be open to trying to dominate 3s instead of steals? I find you can get 3 point shooters later in the draft, and they don’t kill your TOs and FGs as much as the assists and steals guards. Guys like Korver, Redick, Calderone, Meeks, Gerald Green, and Ross are pretty solid picks. Of course Curry would be the best PG for this build if you are lucky enough to get a high pick.

    • Bostonfan says:
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      @Ken:

      Totally open to punting threes. This is exactly the kind of feedback I need. After thinking it through, I realize that steals are probably harder to dominate with this kind of build.

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        @Bostonfan:

        Apologies, punting steals and dominating threes haha.

        • Ken says:
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          @Bostonfan:

          Bored again so I did a mock draft for you. This is based on the ESPN current projections.

          http://games.espn.go.com/fba/tools/projections

          CP3
          Rondo
          Drummond
          DJ
          Parsons
          Lance
          Noel
          Asik
          Jones
          Sullinger
          Collison
          Stuckey
          McRoberts
          Turner

          Should be solid with Assists, Boards, Blocks, TOs, and FGs with this team. Might even win steals. Pretty much guaranteed to lose FTs, points, and and 3s though lol.

          I need a real job…

  19. Ken says:
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    For those who are bored at work (like me), here’s my latest mock draft based on ESPN’s projections.

    Assuming I got the #5 pick, 12 teams, 9 cat, and H2H. (it wasn’t a live mock draft, just a snake draft based on the rankings).

    Harden
    Lillard
    Kemba
    Klay
    Hayward
    Noel
    Jennings
    Asik
    Jones
    Sullinger
    Hibbert
    Stuckey
    Turner
    McRoberts

    Looking to punt FG% and TOs in this build. Top cats in order of dominance would be 3s, FTs, Blocks, Assists, Points, and Boards. Steals are up in the air

    Thoughts? Is this a realistic team to have, assuming my league will consist of about 6 solid teams and 6 who aren’t quite as dedicated. I imagine Hibbert and McRoberts will go higher than projected on their site.

    • Bostonfan says:
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      @Ken:

      Are you worried at all that Asik and Noel might hurt your FT’s? The reason why i wanted to dominate FG, REB, BLOCKS and TO’s is because I feel like blocks and FT are not complementary stats (as in hard to find players that excel in both barring A.Davis and S.Ibaka)

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        Another option would be to try and dominate assists? if you could snag CP3 and Rondo with picks 1 and 2, then you’d be very strong for assists and steals. CP3 is projected around #5-7 and Rondo/Lawson is around the 20s mark, so you should be able to get them both. you’d have to watch the TOs though after that.

        Follow that up with Drummond and DJ, and you’d be well on your way. Later picks like Asik, Chandler, Hibbert, Terrence Jones, Sullinger, and Robin Lopez could totally help your build.

        I think I am talking myself back into this build lol.

        @Bostonfan:

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    Yeah the FTs are a concern with Asik and Noel, but I don’t think they get to the line enough to hurt you that much (as opposed to Dwight Howard who pretty much guarantees you will lose FTs!). I have enough good FT shooters who get to the line a lot that I am confident they will make up for Noel and Asik. It’s nice to not have to worry about FG and TOs lol.

    I think it would depend on who I am facing that week. Sullinger, Hibbert, and Jones are decent FT shooters who gets blocks so I might play around with that line up depending on who I am facing each week.

    • Bostonfan says:
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      @Ken:

      Great point. I guess the question comes down to whether you can dominate blocks with Noel and Asik versus teams that have Ibaka, The Brow, Dwight Howard, Jordan etc…

      Obviously these punting strategies are very much a work in progress, but appreciate you talking this through with me.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Ken: @Bostonfan: Awesome stuff guys! You know me and my bias against Klay, I think changing him out with a PG or C available there would make it better, Harden and Lillard are already going to win you treys, so maybe Favors there who I like a lot or if any of the mid-range PGs were still there I think it’d have more upside. JB HATES KLAY! Haha

      • Slim

        Slim says:
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        @Bostonfan: I agree with most of this conversation except for Noel/Asik winning blocks. I think that’s actually going to be below average. In a 12er I want to be able to add everyone’s per game averages up and try to get to this baseline… (for every category being punted the other categories need to be higher)

        .470/.770/1.0/15.0/6.0/4.0/1.2/1.0/2.0

        I don’t usually get there but that’s more or less what I strive for. So for blocks with a 13 man roster I’m going to be looking for about 13 per game for the entire team. I’m 100% with JB, switch Klay for a big, mmm… Favors, and I think this team gets much better.

        I wouldn’t be worried too much about FT%, Asik and Noel aren’t high volume guys and Harden/Lillard are top 10 for FT%. Plus Kemba and Hayward and I think you’re well above average.

        Last thing. Jennings is someone I’m avoiding. I don’t love the situation and really I like Collison, Calderon better and I think about the same ADP. OK fine, one more thing… Evan Turner will be no where near my team. I know it’s really late but I would want some of that sweet sweet upside. I’m taking Nick Stauskas ahead of Turner and I’m not sure Stauskas is really all that good for fantasy.

        • Ken says:
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          @Slim:

          Thanks for the input, much appreciated. Now that I think about it, Calderon makes a lot more sense than Jennings.

          Still holding out hopes that turner can get back to 13/5/4, especially if I can get him very late.

          Isn’t Stauskas projected to go much earlier than Turner?

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Ken: Yahoo has Stauskas 174 vs. 159 for Turner. I’m not really a fan of either but probably taking Stauskas. I don’t think Turner can get to those numbers because of usage rather than play, I think Stevens is going to really bury him in odd rotations.

  21. Ken says:
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    Can someone help me out? I am having problems with the forum registration lol.

    What’s the answer to this anti bot question?

    Razzball.com is dedicated to fantasy….

    ??

    • JB Gilpin

      JB Gilpin says:
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      @Ken: Hahaha, well I apologize in advance I don’t use the forum very much, but pretty sure the answer is “baseball”. Which seems sport-ist to me. I’m gonna have to talk to Grey about that

      • Slim

        Slim says:
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        @JB Gilpin: That is sport-ist.

        Sure Baseball.Razzball (that’s right, I refuse to acknowledge the URL Razzball.com) might get a few more views but more popular doesn’t make it better. Kim Kardashian has more twitter followers than Sarah Silverman does that make her twitter account better. I think not. What, they have more writers… alright so does The Real World, does that make it better than The Daily Show? Go put that in Grey’s vaporizer and smoke it!

        • JB Gilpin

          JB Gilpin says:
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          @Ken: @Slim: Hahahaha all very true. Basketball should’ve been the answer!

      • Ken says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Thanks lol it googled it and it is in fact baseball. my guess were “sports” and “basketball”

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