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With the full 2014-15 Fantasy Basketball Rankings now complete, let’s take a look at the top 100.  After a week filled with triumphs, successful trades going through, and possibly the biggest news of the offseason – Jared Dudley getting moved.  I couldn’t finish the top 100 without knowing where Dudley would be!  The ramifications would be catastrophic!  So past 75 you’re starting to scrape the bottom of the barrel.  The dregs of the cask.  Which means it’s sleeper land!  Bring out the sleeper patrol!  And a lot of times if you hit on just one of these and avoid injuries in your early rounds, you’re set for a playoff run.  Here’s my top 100 for the 2014-15 Fantasy Basketball Season (based on 9-cat H2H):

76. Kyle Korver, Atlanta Hawks - Starting your final leg of the top 100 with a ThrAGNOF?!  Blasphemy!  Well, what is even more blasphemic is how much of a rankings-metric whore he is.  So many treys with no TOs!  Obviously means you should be a top 50 player… I’ve mentioned this song and dance before, as even though his total value is much higher, I’m not paying the premium.  But with the spike to 34 MPG last year (which should be the case again in 14-15), his dimes and steals shot up to career bests and he should have a very replicable year.  Don’t reach, ThrAGNOF!

77. Greg Monroe, Detroit Pistons - I’ve always been a Monroe fan.  Unfortunately for me, both with Monroe and how down I was on his teammate early last year, Andre Drummond happened.  Damn you, Drum!  Despite Monroe playing similar minutes to 11-12 and 12-13 campaigns, points went down, boards went down, steals went down, blocks went down… And sure all of those were marginal, but the biggest regression was in dimes down to 2.1 after 3.5 and 2.3 in the prior two seasons.  3.5 dimes from your mid-round big is nothing to snot rocket at!  I think Brandon Jennings and Josh Smith with their horrible %s cut into that as well, so the Pistons didn’t help build for him.  With Stan Van now the Man Man, minutes should maintain and I think the dimes can be a real surprise again as BJ and Smoove should get a real butt-kickin’ if they are that inefficient again.  ADPs and other ranks have him right at 100, I’m reaching a smidge.

78. Isaiah Thomas, Phoenix Suns – Ya know, it’s funny.  Funny just how so much can change with trades, seeing other ranks, re-addressing your own ranks… I thought I was gonna love IT2 this year.  LOVE I SAY!  But instead, it seems everyone is more enamored with IT2 more than a meat lovers pizza.  Now part of a three-headed monster, I have no doubt he’s getting the minutes right at 30.  He should be the 6th man and easily run with either Goran Dragic and Eric Bledsoe, but with those guys, is there really any way he’s the facilitator?  Dimes have never been a big part of his game – 6.3 last year as the Kings starting PG – and he’ll be way way under that this year.  I thought IT2 was going to go closer to 100 a month ago – with the role off the bench, behind two really good Gs, changing cities, all of that sinking his perceptive value.  But other ranks have him top 50.  That’s nuts.  Don’t draft him there.

79. Tyreke Evans, New Orleans Pelicans – There might not have a been a more roller coaster season than with Reke last year.  Looking at the overall numbers, it was a sad panda.  Career-low in points, big dropoff in MPG, and still terrible as a deep shooter.  But if you were a Reke owner, you know just how good some of the stretches were, mainly post-ASB.  His final 23 games slash was an unbelievable 19.7/5.4/6.4/1.3/0.3.  Before that, inconsistency both in his play and in his role made him waiver wire fodder, on top of even more ankle sprains.  And a big boost for that final run was the injury to Jrue Holiday that put a lot of facilitating in Reke’s hands.  I see big things for Jrue cutting into the assists and points, but Evans should be able to bring you a decent line and play a more consistent role as the starting 3.

80. Kevin Martin, Minnesota Timberwolves - So many points and %s!  So little else!  After that horrific OKC experiment, K-Mart bounced back better than I thought last season.  19.1 points, 1.7 treys, and a good enough volume 4.5-5.0 FT to have us reminisce in the K-Mart days of yesteryear.  The treys were a little low, but I don’t see any way he’s not closer to 2.5 this year with over 20 PPG.  No more Kevin Love camping for treys, Martin will be the primary scorer on the rebuilding Wolves and obviously the main perimeter threat.  My disdain for three-point specialists keep him from vaulting way up my ranks, but I like him a lot this year and if I needed the deep ball in the 8th round, I’d reach a few picks higher.

81. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks – Alphabet me!  The Greek Freak is a big favorite for both Slim and I, who we like to really break out this year.  Jason Kidd has already talked about using Giannis as a point-forward, and while it’s unlikely they do that often, he’s already shown some nasty multi-cat prowess and it’s good to see Kidd embracing the Freak-ness.  Even though nothing huge stuck out in any sort of stretch last year as Giannis suffered through Larry Drew’s awful rotations, there was one huge thing I noticed.  My crack.  My additiction.  My AST:TO ratio watches!  Pre-ASB 1.7:1.7, post 2.3:1.5.  “It’s motherf***** crack!”  A role that should be 32-34 minutes, upside in virtually every category, Slim and I are going to have a race to grab Giannis before the field in all our leagues.

82. Nikola Pekovic, Minnesota Timberwolves - “What can I do for you, Pek?”  “You can tell me why you’re wiping your ass with my client’s contract promising a TiVo!”  Pek is one of my favorite real-life players.  Strong, Yugoslavian beat downs in the paint.  But for our fun little fantasy game, Pek is pretty empty Pts/Reb guy with injury issues.  “Why, Pek, Why?!”  Under 1 Ast/Stl/Blk every year in his career, but shot 54% from the field last year and offers great interior FG%.  That said, no more Love means a little choppier water in the paint and maybe a slight dip in %.

83. Larry Sanders, Milwaukee Bucks - “Never again!”  That’s Sanders owners in a collective riot seeing him at 83 for me this year.  Don’t hate me!  He’s higher in a ton of places.  Last year was a well-documented disaster, both on and off the court.  If Colonel Sanders can come close to what he did in 12-13 though (9.8/9.5 with 2.8 blocks in only 27 MPG), he could win you your league.  There’s so many variables!  Including a recent report hinting John Henson might start at the 5 opening night.  Even with so much downside, this late in your draft to get someone with his kind of upside would be impossible for me to pass up.  He could indeed get a starting role, but even in 27 minutes again like 12-13 in a primary bench role he could be huge.  Just depends on if he plans on hitting the nightclubs again right after his infant son is born while leaving his German Shepherds chained up outside in the winter…

84. Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns - The Kieff!  I haven’t been this pumped for a Kief since they announced 24 was coming back… A huge breakout for the better-named Morris twin last year, with a pretty impressive 13.8/6/1.8/0.8/0.6 slash given it was in a 26:33 MPG role.  But the breakout signs are still piping hot for a big 14-15.  First is his role which should be a 32-34 minute starting gig at PF.  Just for s’s and g’s, his per-36 last year was 26/11.3/3.4/1.6/1.4 with 0.8 treys a game.  Dem fighting numbers!  Given that’s against some second units, but still!  Add in his offseason emphasis has been on boards and treys, and without Channing Frye camping beyond the arc, I think Kieff gets over a trey a game.  There’s so much upside bubbling over that I’m shocked he’s below 100 almost everywhere else.

85. Channing Frye, Orlando Magic - Haha, I promise it wasn’t intentional!  Just where the numbers took me.  From one high-upside multi-cat big to a more treys/Reb big, I’ll take the full multi-cat upside guy.  But Frye is in a pretty good situation and is getting passed up on more often than I would’ve previously imagined.  In 28 minutes per last year, actually had a more multi-cat season than I remembered going 11.1/5.1/1.2/0.7/0.8 with 2 treys a game.  Frye was given “you’re starting at PF for a ton of minutes” money to play in Orlando (that’s at least what I imagine the contract says), and with nothing too proven on the perimeter in Disney World, Frye is gonna make it rain like [insert a raining scene from a Disney movie, I can think of any]!

86. Jonas Valanciunas, Toronto Raptors - Nooooooooooooooooooo!  The Luminescent Lithuanian is back to give me nightmares!  As much as I wanted to give him a spite 172 ranking, I guess I’ll let bygones be bygones and grab JV here.  His rookie season was marred by a broken finger, but I caught some games down the stretch and was enamored with his post presence and ability to get to the stripe.  Last year, a-notsamuch.  In more than 4 more minutes a game, blocks fell from 1.3 to 0.9, FTs went from 2.4-3 to 2.4-3.2 (worse % and didn’t go up) and his FG% fell over 2.5%.  Bleck!  In the Raptors games I watched, he was slower, less physical, and I posited he was fighting an injury.  Finally he showed me those glimmers of his Luminescentness with a huge 8-game April of 16.8/11 and was a much better player post-ASB with a 58% FG clip after 50% pre-ASB.  The total FT and FT% both had major spikes as well.  He worked out with Hakeem the Dream this offseason, the DUI charges in Canada got dropped, everything is primed for a bounce back from the junior slump.  If I wasn’t still heartbroken from last year, I’d probably have him a little higher.

87. Jeremy Lin, Los Angeles Lakers – We’re back with the Lin-sanity!  Is there really any better team that Lin could’ve gone to this year?  Houston didn’t work, Knicks didn’t want him, and now he’s playing for one of the biggest fanbases and Kobe is going to hog the ball to keep the pressure off.  The upside is obviously limited, but I see a little mini-resurgence this year.  His minutes were cut for the PBev in 13-14, but he did have his best season beyond the arc, best FT%, and tied his best FG%.  And before last year was over 6 dimes a game and 1.6 steals two straight seasons.  Would it really be that hard to see Lin get back to 5.5 dimes and 1.5 steals while putting up 13 or 14 points a night?  It’s really plausible, and his value will also rise if he can be pretty efficient TO-wise.  Let Kobe rack those up!  As I said, low-upside, but I think he’s going to have a legit season.

88. George Hill, Indiana Pacers – Who felt like the biggest bust at the midway point last year?  “Me! Pick me!”  That’s George Hill’s response… But when it was all said and done, Hill actually wasn’t that brutal last season with his metric-friendly game, finishing 77th overall.  Almost all of that stems from the 1.5 treys & 1.2 TOs a game, which those logarithms love.  With the very unfortunate Paul George injury, is it really that far a leap to see Hill replicating 12-13 numbers?  14.2 points, 4.7 dimes, 1.7 treys and only 1.5 TOs?  I don’t think it’s that far-fetched and he was ranked 41st that year!  A very boring pick with low-upside, he does offer that mix of treys and some dimes with low TOs that some constructed teams will need.

89. Elfird Payton, Orlando Magic – Elfird on the Shelfrid!  Might be our favorite nickname, all Slim on that one.  I need to hit up some marketing people to have that available for this Holiday season… The rookie starting PG has oodles of upside, way more than the two PGs above, but it’s likely to be a rockier road than Honey BooBoo’s freezer.  His Summer League slash over 5 games showed some multi-cat promise of 9.2/5.2/7/1.4/0.6 including two trip-dub flirts of 12/8/9 and 8/9/10.  But before you draft him in the 6th round and scream “dollar makes me holla!”, he’s not a high-volume scorer, and isn’t a good FT shooter, going 65% in Summer League and 61% in his 3-year college career.  Then those sad, sad TOs with 4 a game in Summer ball and 3.4 a game through college.   If you have a solid team protecting those stats, or have already punted FT, Elfrid is a guy to reach a little further for up the Shelfrid.

90. Arron Afflalo, Denver Nuggets - Ugh, i need a shower.  I’m not really an Afflalo guy, but the move to Denver pairs him up with arguably the best PG he’s played with in Ty Lawson, and the Nugs needed a more consistent wing last year.  I don’t care if Randy Foye had some nice games, he a scrub!  And Wilson Chandler who I liked a lot last year was… inconsistent.  Curse of the Neck Tattoo!  Fast track that movie idea… Afflalo has dramatically improved his offensive game since the last time in Denver, making a career high 1.8 treys last season and has improved his dimes every year since being in the NBA.  I’m not “excited” to get him here, but he should be a pretty high-volume scorer at 19-20 a game for some late points.

91. Terrence Jones, Houston Rockets – I’m not sure what the hesitation on Jones is this year… Finished an obscene 49th overall in value last year, and that includes a 4-game stretch early in the year where he barely got off the bench.  When he finally got a start on 11-11, his slash from then on in 72 games was 12.7/7.3/1.2/0.7/1.4 with 1.4 treys.  Multi-cat alert!  There’s no reason to think he should get comparable numbers as the starting 4 this year, and probably will get more minutes as the only true 4 since Chandler Parsons isn’t around to shift to PF anymore and Trevor Ariza can’t fit that role.  Jones is a guy I like a lot and could move up depending on if the wave moves him up ADPs, but right now ranked 147 on Yahoo is a travesty.  I’m getting him top 100 in all leagues.

92. Zach Randolph, Memphis Grizzlies - Now for a PF completely different!  T-Dog is as boring as iust gets.. But just as he is boring he’s just as steady.  He’s 17/10 in the bank, with 2 dimes that sometimes are overlooked, and an ultimate roster comp guy.  Unfortunately, he’s always been a little TO prone, doesn’t shoot a great % as a big, and doesn’t block.  There’s nothing too special, but consistency is special!

93. Taj Gibson, Chicago Bulls – The acquisition of Pau Gasol certainly clouds the minutes, but Gasol can shift to the 5 when Joakim Noah is sitting and Gibby should have no problem finally topping 30 minutes.  Last year snuck up on me a little bit, with a 13/6.8/1.1/0.5/1.4 slash.  I don’t expect much more – maybe a little less – in the scoring department, but I think his swattage is a little undervalued and he’s an ultimate team player saying he has no problem starting or coming off the bench.  Even in a bench role I think he has a good shot at that 30 minute threshold behind some semi-brittle bigs after playing 82 games last year.  He’s only missed more than 3 games once in his 5-year career, so I think you’re paying for some safety there too.  Nothing is going to overwhelm you, but the end value I think will justify him here.

94. Patrick Beverley, Houston Rockets - The Razzball faux pas from last year!  Well, it really wasn’t that bad, was it?  WAS IT?!  Did you know he actually finished 74th in per-game last year?  PBev owners-then-droppers are like, “um, no he didn’t.”  Well, PBev does have a metric-friendly game with treys and no TOs, and while he’s going to be inconsistent and boring, he improved in FG% and treys as the season wore on and is ready for even more minutes with Jeremy Lin out of town.  It’s not like he’ll absorb Lin’s touches, he’s still the 5th option offensively with the starters, but his defensive prowess should get him up to 34 minutes a game which will automatically boost up his stats a bit.  More treys, still very few TOs, and he’ll be a sneaky value in the 10th.

95. Lance Stephenson, Charlotte Hornets - What team is he on?!  Pacers?  Bobcats?  It’s so hard this fantasy basketball thing!  I love the acquisition as a semi-Hornets fan, but don’t see him doing too much different fantasy-wise.  He finished 89th last year in total value, and I do think he’ll improve on the 2.7 TOs with a better offense around him.  But that will come at the expense of some boards, as citing Al Jefferson as a better rebounder than Roy Hibbert is as obvious as calling 2001 a better movie than Transcendence.  Points, assists and steals should be pretty usable and Lance has been fairly durable playing 78 games the past two seasons.

96. Draymond Green, Golden State Warriors - #OccupyDraymondGreen!  Oh man, it’s gonna be fun doing that again!  Especially as he’s a major Razzball sleeper this year.  After muddling off the bench for a bit, Green actually finished as a top 100 player in total value, and should have a more consistent and bigger role in 14-15.  Slightly picking an arbitrary date, but from December 29th-April 14th he was a 7.1/5.5/2.1/1.5/1.0 slash guy with 0.6 treys and only 1.1 TOs.  And that was in 24 minutes a game!  He’s like Andrew Bogut, but with treys!  And less boards, but still… Green has a really good shot to start at SF with Andre Iguodala leading the second unit (makes so much sense), and while he won’t be scoring much, that multi-cat ability in a 30 MPG starting role would be a steal this late.  Spend the money to #OccupyDraymondGreen!

97. Reggie Jackson, Oklahoma City Thunder - I came into these final picks of the top 100 thinking I was going to have RJax out… I’m not huge on the guy – I think he could be a monster next year if he gets a starting PG gig somewhere – but for now he’s probably starting at the 2 and not getting a ton of rock.  That said, there’s value here and apparently no one wants him.  In 36 games as a starter last year, he was 14.1/3.7/5.1/1.4/0.1 with 1.1 treys, and while most of those starts were with Russell Westbrook kneed up, I think he can get somewhat close to that line again minus some points and dimes in 14-15.  Plus if Westbrook goes down again, you have a bottom-end guy suddenly a big part of your team.

98. Jodie Meeks, Detroit Pistons - This one could change dramatically as we approach the season, as of course Slim and I are hoping Kentavious Caldwell-Pope can sneak by and take the starting SG role.  Since that’s probably unlikely, Meeks is looking at a big role on the Pistons to hit treys and rack up steals.  Stan Van is a defensive-minded coach, and it’s really not that unthinkable that Meeks can come pretty close to his 13-14 output which was 39th overall!  He’s likely to lose some points and maybe go from 2.1 treys to 1.7-1.8, but the 1.4 steals are legit and he has great %s from a deep shooter with low TOs.

99. Corey Brewer, Minnesota Timberwolves - Brewer might be the worst shooting SG/SF in the NBA.  Burn!  But he’s absolutely awesome and knows his game.  I wish I knew my game!  A very sneaky 53 overall finish last year, a lot due to the metric-friendly low TOs and occasional trey, but what Brewer brings you is those sweet, sweet steals.  1.9 last year, and will be starting again with no reason to think he won’t rack em up.  Plus, since he knows he’s a bad shooter, his FG% is great at 48.1% making so many layups.  Hopefully he takes a few less treys this year since he’s a career 29.5% from downtown, and after watching him so much, I think he can surprise with 4 boards a game with Kevin Love not gobbling everything down.

100. Alec Burks, Utah Jazz - Mr. Irrelevant!  Oh wait, we have 100 more to go…  Burks is awesome to watch, and while his game isn’t exactly fantasy-transferrable, Dante Exum and Trey Burke are both works in progress at best, and someone besides Gordon Hayward is going to have to create.  The 154 finish last year was vomit-licious, but he’s marginally improved on his AST:TO since joining the league and in expanding minutes, and I see him playing over 30 MPG this year.  He’s not going to do anything great for you besides score, but there’s upside and opportunity and I could see a surprising breakout.

 

Whew-ee!  100 in the books, sorry for the delay, it’s been a busy past couple of weeks here in Razz-nation.  Top 200 will be done next week, and then we’ll be approaching pre-season!  Be sure to start an RCL League today to challenge Razzball Nation and have a great weekend!

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  1. Zar says:
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    I’m comparing your rankings to Yahoo!’s rankings. Already, I can see that Ibaka is still underated. I will be happy getting him in the second round again! Another one that stands out is Horford, at 23. I wonder if I can go Harden, Ibaka, Horford….then Rubio..then Milsap! Kemba, Oladipo, Favors, and MCW also look like they might be steals.

    And I’m gonna get Draymond, just you watch. As a warriors fan, I was hoping Barnes would be traded (For Love in a package) just so Draymond could get some playing time.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Zar: NO ONE GIVES IBAKA ANY RESPECT! Yeah Yahoo is underrating a ton of quality guys. I’m gonna have some nasty RCL teams!

      I think Draymond is still gonna get a ton of minutes, at least a good bit more than last year. If you’re gonna get him in the 80s yeah you’ll beat me, but not by that much!

    • Slim

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      @Zar: I think I disagree with more of Yahoo’s ranks than I agree with. All those for sure but also plenty of guys I think they have too high. Wade, Rose, Ryan Anderson are a few that really stick out.

      Still a little uncertainty about Draymond but yeah he’s like a better version of James Johnson only with less neck tats. He’s still young though, maybe he can still develop that part of his game.

      • JB Gilpin

        JB Gilpin says:
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        @Slim: Still laughing about how Ryan Anderson is in the late 30s or something on Yahoo. Crazy, and you thought my 60 some odd was too high! Less neck tats = better player

  2. Tony says:
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    Just decided to dump [trade] L.Sanders + B. Knight in exchange for D. Favors + Hardaway Jr. in my 20-man h2h dyntasty league. Although last year was a nightmare to own Sanders, I do think he can bounce back, even if he were to only earn 25-27mpg. However, I feel more secure with Favors (better FT% on top of PTS), especially with me owning Ibaka and Gasol.

    Surprised to not see D. Carroll in the pool yet of rankings, everybody seems to be low on him. He definitely gives Brewer a run for his money, and A. Wiggins could start at SF.

    My guess is that S. Hawes is atleast Top 150 in 9-cat, earning him sleeper status in my eyes once again.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Tony: I think Sanders can bounce back too, but agree on getting Favors. But the Knight for Hardaway Jr. seems like a bad downgrade. Maybe it’s my Knight-love. Pretty close. Favors being the best in the deal I think narrowly gives you the W. I bet Slim will like it more, he’s a big Timmay Jr. fan.

      I love Carroll’s game and he was awesome last year. Probably is, his pre/post Horford injury splits were crazy. He went from meh to a surprising multi-cat guy right away.

      Yup, Hawes will be all the way at 110-120ish for me. Think decent minutes will be there, even if game-to-game he’s a little inconsistent.

  3. Boom Shakalaka says:
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    What do you think about Matt Barnes this year?

    When Crawford went down in the second half of the year Barnes ended up putting 3rd value! I was thinking that now Dudley is gone doesnt that mean he’s a starter now? Watching a few games last year Barnes really fit in well with the Clips.

    • Boom Shakalaka says:
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      @Boom Shakalaka:

      I see him putting up sneek value like VC did for Dallas last year but better. Anytime he’s gotten over 30 mins he’s puts up 13 pts 5 rebs, couple of 3’s, 1stl and almost a block a game.

    • Slim

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      @Boom Shakalaka: There’s a few things that worry me about Matt Barnes. The big one is that he’s 34 years old. He had a career high in minutes last year and I think the vast majority of that was due to injuries. I do like him to start but I don’t think he’s going to be able to hit 30 minutes and stay healthy. I think his best role for the clippers is about 24 minutes with Reddick getting some play at SF and Jamal Crawford and Jordan Farmar splitting the backup guard minutes. In 24 minutes I’d project him for…

      .450/.740/1.2/9.0/4.6/1.8/0.8/0.4/1.1 :26

      I agree there’s some value there but I think it’s going to take an injury for him to get back up to 30 minutes per game. Waiver fodder in a 12er but a strong pickup if there is an injury.

      The other worrisome part is that the Clippers have been trying very hard to replace him. They’ve been linked to Shumpert, Gerald Green, and Tony Allen to name a few and anyone they bring in would decimate Barnes already cloudy role.

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Boom Shakalaka: I like Barnes too, but I agree with @Slim: in that Redick being back and playing a lot of minutes is going to hurt. Definitely some value and he’s def top 125 I’d say, but not much upside unless a ton of injuries again.

  4. Ken says:
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    Nice list JB! Surprised Lance is ranked so low though. Do you think he will get better numbers than last year playing for the Hornets? I was hoping he’d have a break out season as part of the Hornet’s big 3.

    Might be wishful thinking but I am a bit high on Lance since he was my sleeper pick last season (at least for the first 70% of the season lol).

    ps. Any love for Hibbert this season? I am thinking he might be a steal in the later rounds.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Ken: Thanks man! Ehhh, I think he’s about the same on the Hornets, as I mentioned I think a few less TOs but less boards. Dimes will be a little tough too. I think he’s a much better real-life fit than fantasy option. Nice call on him last year! He was awesome for a good stretch.

      Hibbert… Ehhhhh…. I dunno, won’t end up on any of my teams but agree he could be a steal. Like I’d probably rather Spencer Hawes. Who isn’t starting. Haha.

  5. Lasandro says:
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    So my constant banter with y’all last season is what convinced me to pick Markieff in the super shallow league I’m in. And I didn’t look back. Particularly with Horny choosing to play him a bit closer to the 30min mark towards the end of the season, his numbers were looking great – I remember a lot of 17/8 multi cat lines. What you think? Worth a punt with my very last pick in a 7 teamer? I remember having this same convo with myself over Afflalo and Turner, both of which I picked with my last two picks. And pre-ASB, they were nuts. I feel like there’s a small handful of players that could be as surprising this season, due to roster changes. Markieff… Who else? I’m talking big numbers, like them other two last season. Cheers!

  6. Lasandro says:
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    Oh I should’ve clarified that I picked Kieff up from FA towards the end of the season.. Didn’t want y’all thinkin I had some death wish and drafted him!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Lasandro: Yeah Markieff was a huge surprise last year, and his numbers snuck up on me even this year looking back and putting together the rankings. Def worth a pick in a shallower league, I have him there in the 80s so that’s still a must-draft. Yeah Turner was awesome, but then traded and now lost in a Boston rotation. Amazing how much a change of teams can thwart ya! I have a feeling Jameer Nelson is going to surprise. I think he’s a lot better than Felton, and a much different player than Devin Harris who is more injury prone. Rodney Stuckey I like as a sleeper with no George. That’s one I’m getting last round in a ton of leagues. No death wishes from Las!

      • Slim

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        @JB Gilpin: Really, Turner was ‘awesome’ with Philly?

        .428/.828/0.7/17.4/6.0/3.7/1.0/0.1/2.9 :35

        .520/.789/0.5/15.8/6.4/2.0/0.9/0.6/2.0 :29

        The 2nd set of numbers is Markieff in the 2nd half. So who was better? I’d be willing to bet Markieff’s 2nd half numbers would be a higher ranking than Turner with Philly. Either way I’m sure I like the 2nd set of numbers better.

        More guys on my short list… Terrence Jones, Reggie Jackson, Antetokounmpo, Jordan Hill, Burks, Mason Plumlee, to name a few. I still really like Marcus Smart and there’s a report out from Jackie McMullan that Rondo says he wants out. If that happens Smart will be top 100 with all the tools to be top 50… just needs the minutes.

    • Lasandro says:
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      @Lasandro: so in preparing myself to read all the bday messages I’ve recieved overnight, I’m checking in on my fav fantasy site first ha!

      See @jbgilpin, Jameer I think was already on that short list for last year. I picked him up around December and had him the ROS. He was good for early teens in pts, good threes, great assists and sneaky rebounds from the 1 spot. If you think he’ll replicate those numbers, or even surpass them, I’ll almost certainly be drafting him. I just think that Felton and Harris on the same squad (as opposed to only Oladipo) may eat into some of his usage/PT. You’re that high on stuckey? We talking potentially late teens with plenty of fts? Interesting. May be a Charles Bronson move ( Death Wish ref)

      @slim, you ain’t impressed with the 17/6/4 line coming from your SG/SF? Kieff was great of course, but that line outta philly ain’t nothing to uncovered-mouth sneeze at. I picked up t jones so many times last season and hated his lack of aggression on some nights. If he does in fact take the offensive reigns as a starter, he’d be a no brain late round pick for me. But I just don’t know with that silly Houston team and with harden dribbling the air outta that thing like CP3. Even with parsons gone, I just don’t know. Giannis? Well, Drew just obliterated any belief I had in the bucks and I sure hope kidd is gonna stick to more solid rotations. I’m a huge Henson fan, if you guys recall my posts from last season. When the guy hit 25min, he’d almost be a shoe-in for a dub dub and a couple of blocks with great fg%. Dare I day, he may be potentially the best fantasy pick there? I just don’t believe in sanders all that much. Hill? Well that depends on rotations, yes. And if Jackson does indeed leave OKC, I think you’re right on the money with him on the list. Anyone else?

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Slim: @Lasandro: Yeah, actually, Turner WAS awesome with Philly, he just tapered off before being traded. Opening tip to Jan 29:

        18.5/6.1/3.8/1 with 0.8 treys 44% FG at that point.

        It’s marginally better, but that’s still a quality player, and top… 60ish at that point? Maybe even top 50. That’s maybe 50ish games and Kieff, while good/improving before that too, his post-ASB was 30 games. So for a big chunk Turner actually was a huge surprise. WAIT WHY AM I DEFENDING EVAN TURNER?!?!?!?!?!

        Anyway Kief was good and will be awesome this year while Turner might barely play. I like Slim’s list, except iffy on Jordan Hill, and I dunno about Smart even if Rondo is traded. He’ll certainly move way up, but he’s 90-100 still for me vs. near 50s for Slim.

        HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAN!

        I dunno, Felton/Harris = one is definitely getting hurt for a while, and the Mavs around him are so much better. Plus having a PG hit treys worked well for em last year with Calderon, Nelson is the best deep threat of the 3.

        Yeah, I mean Stuckey isn’t gonna suddenly be a top 50 player, but get a lot of points and be decent. Maybe not worth drafting in a 7-teamer, but worth monitoring. 10-team is worth a late pick.

        Giannis Slim and I both love, I think us both having him top 100 is a pretty bold pick. I have Henson at 102 right now with new he might start, so totally with you there. Just depends on if he indeed starts and can get 30ish minutes.

        Others – I don’t really see it but Tobias Harris could bounce back. Looking at my ranks, I like Jared Sullinger a lot but unsure about his role, then I’m going to be higher on Nik Stauskas than most because he can distribute while Collison isn’t a huge dimer, and McLemore is awful. I think he could be a surprise even though I didn’t think much of him on draft day.

        Have a few extra drinks on me man!

        • Slim

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          @JB Gilpin: There’s more than a few issues I have with Turner. .428 FG% on 15.4 shots is pretty atrocious, it’s going to take more than one big to try to make up for that. .828 FT% destroyed his career average and looks to be a huge outlier. Less than a 3 from a SG/SF is well below average. The Points/Boards/Assists are ok but everything else was just so empty. 1.0 SPG is boring and below average for a SG/SF. He offers no blocks and the 2.9 TOs ruin any good will granted from his assists. I honestly don’t get what was so good about that line.

          He’s like the Tristan Thompson of wings. He’s Lance Stephenson except for good FT% instead of FG%. He’s like a 3rd year DeRozan but with more Boards/TOs. If he was still in Philly and I thought he would repeat last years numbers I think I would rank him around Lance. Barely in the top 100, but definitely passing.

          More… hmm… I think Amir Johnson should have a better year. He really struggled through an ankle injury and if he’s healthy he’s a top 100 guy. CJ McCollum might be a little too deep for your league but he’s on my slightly longer list of sleepers in a 12er. I haven’t given up on Terrence Ross either. I’m hoping he takes the next step but he’s got competition for playing time. Elfrid Payton is a guy who should go late in your draft that I think could really help in assists, boards for a PG, and steals, maybe even some FG%. I think he’s being well under drafted and has very little competition for playing time. There’s caveats for sure but he’s got category winning upside in those few cats.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Slim: @JB Gilpin: WHOA THROWING AROUND THE TRISTAN THOMPSON COMP HUH?! I love the all caps screaming, like it means something in internet talk haha. Since I thought so little of Turner, maybe that’s why the line seems so good. More boards and treys than 3rd year DD I think… But yea, not like he was an MVP or anything.

          I’ve really soured on Ross, I think I’ll barely have him 150. I need to move Tucker up. Yup we both like Payton, I think Slim a tad more, but looking at the field he ended up top 100 for me.

          • Slim

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            @JB Gilpin: Hehe. THE ALL CAPS MADE ME LAUGH! I don’t think I used that right. I might emphasize 1 word with all caps but that’s it.

            I’m worried about Ross too. I think he’ll get there eventually but the way they messed with his minutes last year makes him tough to trust. I don’t know about Tucker either. I feel like he got more competition from Thomas and Warren without losing anyone. Could see a loss in minutes, inconsistent night to night. I doubt I go near him in a 12er draft. As a last pick i’m guessing i’d rather gamble on Ross’ upside. Ive got both cheap in the REL and im keeping both. So… there’s that, but that league has twice as many players owned so its pretty different.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Slim: Warren is def a concern, but he should still get minutes… I’d probably go Ross upside too – deeper league I’d want Tucker for the stability.

  7. MAC says:
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    ei guys, picking 12, and you want to punt ft, would you reach for drummond at 13 after picking lets say cousins? looking at the picks, theres a very slim chance youd get to pick him at 36 37 as well as deandre and dwight. and picking drum at 13 prevents other top teams as well to pair him up with durant ad lebron curry harden

    • JB Gilpin

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      @MAC: Hola! Whew, 12th pick in a snake… I know he won’t last, but that seems high for Drummond… Even in a FT punt… I’d rather like Jefferson or Millsap in a reach then you could get DeAndre later.

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        @JB Gilpin:

        Ok! Im just concerned top teams getting a combination of drumm dj or even dwight. especially the first two, pairing them up with kd ad lbj curry. i think thats a great start for a h2h team. since punting for me is a must in h2h. hehe.

        • JB Gilpin

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          @MAC: Haha I hear ya, if you want him I wouldn’t think it’s too crazy, but yeah you could get dj and dwight on the next wrap around most likely… depending on how much anyone would overrate dwight!

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            @JB Gilpin:
            yup! dwight is a bit overrated. but i feel like this season, he would improve those stats since he and harden will have a heavier load with the departure of parsons. of the three, id definitely have drumm dj then dwight. i know youre not a big fan of punting, but in a h2h format i think punting is a must. you or slim should make a draft strategy of punting for every cats. haha!

            • JB Gilpin

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              @MAC: Yeah I have those bigs in that order too. Well, putting my non-punt H2H strategy to the test again this year, RCL crown gonna be mine! I think Slim would be a lot better at that, I always end up with balanced teams he sometimes will punt…

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          @MAC:

          Been doing a bunch of mock drafts this past weekend and noticed that everyone is reaching for Drummond. Don’t think he ever makes it out of the 2nd round. He even went 7th and 11th in a few of the drafts lol.

          Imo Drummond is worth the 13th pick if you are punting FTs (even more true in a keeper league). Might want to pick up a decent PG if you can though, as they get quite sparse towards the later rounds. There are plenty of decent players in the later rounds for your build. Guys like:

          DJ (will prob go in the 4th maybe 5th but if you can get him that would be nasty!!)
          Rolo
          Hibbert
          Asik
          Jval
          Chandler
          Amir
          Henson
          The Plumlees (draft both of them lol)

          • JB Gilpin

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            @Ken: Wow, 7th for Drum?! Even punting that’s nuts to me haha. I agree, there’s guys you can punt FT with and draft late like DeAngre/Dwight and Henson late for example. Interesting bigs late.

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              @JB Gilpin:

              Yeah lol seems like there’s a lot of love for Drummond this year. Same goes for Derozan too.

              For punting FTs, I think you can scrape the bottom of the barrel even more with guys like Andersen, Dalembert, McGee, Mosgov, and Oquinn. All they do is rebound, block, get easy baskets, and don’t turn the ball over lol. Andersen and Mosgov really helped me out late last season.

              • JB Gilpin

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                @Khang: Henson I think deserves to be on that list as a late flyer too, starting to like him more and more with news coming out!

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            @Ken:
            wow! im high on drummond on a punt ft build, but not that high picking him 11! definitely not 7! hehe. yup, a lot of people are high on drumm. i feel like he will have a big jump just like deandre last yr because of coaching upgrade itself. and the fact that it will only be his 3rd season! more than anything, picking him up before the top teams get him is the top goal. its just plain scary having drumm with kd ad lbj steph harden even cp3. since the top teams in a snake draft are picking 20-30.

            • JB Gilpin

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              @MAC: End of 2nd round with those studs make sense, it’d just be tough for me to block those teams and reach for him 11. I think my non-punting might cloud it a bit haha

  8. Patrick says:
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    so i’ve been doing a few yahoo mock drafts for my 14 h2h 9 cat league and going by these razzball rankings i see a trend if I get 7th pick or higher:

    I almost definitely get
    1) Ibaka
    2) Milsap
    3) Vucevic/Marc Gasol/Oladipo
    4) Oladipo/MCW
    5) Derrick Williams/MCW
    6) Ariza/Calderon/Brandon Knight
    And others usually, Alphabet, Morris, Terrence Jones and Draymond Green

    A few questions:

    a) Which combo do you think is the nastiest?

    2) do you think i should change my 1st and 2nd picks? according to these rankings they are clear winners, but do they mesh well with the others I usually am able to get?

    thanks in advance for the feedback

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      @Patrick:

      For me personally I am punting FG and Tos (if that’s even an official punt), so my nastiest realistic combo in a 12 team is Harden and Lowry. In doing a bunch of mocks, seems like people are pretty low on Harden so I have been able to get him 6-9 range. Team that up with Lowry and I’m pretty strong on Assists, Steals, points, FTs, 3s, and points right off the bat.

      Not sure if I am crazy about Ibaka at 7. What’s your reasoning for that? Seems to me like there’s better value there. And Derrick Williams? Am I missing something there? Did he get better all of a sudden lol

      • JB Gilpin

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        @Patrick: Loving the first two picks! I think they fit teams I like to make with more balance. Haha @Ken: I thought the same thing on Derrick Williams! I think he meant Deron lol.

        Ibaka/Millsap/Vuc then all upside PG past that – Oladipo, MCW, Calderon, Deron Williams. Might lost assists, but past that I think it’d be a solid team.

  9. Khang says:
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    As long as we are rating mock drafts, what do you guys think of this one? It’s my favorite one after doing about 15 mock drafts this past weekend lol. Looking to win FTs, 3s, Steals, Assists, Points, and Boards in that order. Pretty guaranteed to lose TOs, Blocks, and FG.

    1. James Harden (Hou – SG,SF)
    2. Chris Bosh (Mia – PF,C)
    3. Ty Lawson (Den – PG)
    4. Thaddeus Young (Min – SF,PF)
    5. Kemba Walker (Cha – PG)
    6. Gordon Hayward (Uta – SG,SF)
    7. Jose Calderon (NY – PG)
    8. Omer Asik (NO – PF,C)
    9. Channing Frye (Orl – PF,C)
    10. Jared Sullinger (Bos – PF,C)
    11. Jodie Meeks (Det – SG)
    12. Miles Plumlee (Pho – PF,C)
    13. Rodney Stuckey (Ind – PG,SG)

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Khang: Nice team! Yeah, I think I need to move Bosh up my ranks… I’m not huge on Thad going to Minnesota, and I think Asik will have less of a role than most, but liking everyone else. I have Stuckey 112 so I like him a lot as a sleeper. Agree you’re gonna lose blocks, I think TO/FG would be volatile H2H and you’d win sometimes. So pumped for the year!

      • Khang says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Thanks for the feedack! Can’t wait for the season to start!

        I must admit I am very biased towards Asik since he almost won the finals for me last year with his streak of 20+ boards games. I think I am higher on him than most lol.

        Kind of torn on Thad, but he was single handedly winning steals for me last year so I am also pretty high on him. Who would you take in his place?

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Khang: Haha yeah biases will do that! I just think with Anderson probably back healthy, Asik will be in a big minutes crunch and barely play in 4th quarters. Boards will def be there though! Yeah Thad had the huge steals season, I think a lot of that came from the higher possessions other teams had since Sixers played high tempo. I’m taking both Parsons and Jabari ahead of him, even though I know Jabari is a big risk.

  10. Khang says:
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    Having trouble filling my bench due to the large number of late sleeper picks. I am so torn!

    Which 3 would you guys pick from this list?

    Meeks: Threes, steals, points, and Fts! Too good to be true? Can he keep it up?

    Henson: Looks like he might start. Will prob play a lot due to Larry Sanders being dumb.

    Stuckey: Guaranteed playing time due to the situation in Indiana.

    Jameer Nelson: Way better than Felton. Will eventually get the start?

    Miles Plumlee: Will get a boost in playing time due to Frye leaving.

    Mason Plumlee: Made team USA. That’s gotta count for something?

    Josh McRoberts: Any other bigs in Miami to challenge him for playing time?

    Good thing my main league allows for 15 players lol. I am like a kid in a candy store with these sleepers!

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Khang: So many sleepers so little time! I think Meeks and Henson are definitely in. Meeks should be a great fit for StanVan’s scheme and Henson indeed is getting news he’ll start. Third is tough, I like Stuckey & Nelson as sleepers, lukewarm on Miles and McRoberts, I might go Mason Plumlee since he has the most upside. I have him a few spots lower than Stuckey/Nelson, but for your final bench spot, might be worth the gamble.

  11. Khang says:
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    Seems like the biggest reaches this year are Drummond, Derozan, and Hibbert. Everyone’s drafting them well ahead of their projections.

    • JB Gilpin

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      @Khang: Yeah agree, Drummond and Hibbert unlikely to be on any of my teams, I like DeRozan a lot but surprised he has so much buzz. Hit that one out of the part with the sleeper pick last year!

      • Ken says:
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        @JB Gilpin:

        Yeah Derozan is going to be hot commodity around here (Canada) since he’s a raptor lol. I think people will be reaching for Jval and Amir like crazy too lol. I know myself I’d like to have at least a couple Raptors on my team just to make watching them a little more exciting.

        Ideally I’d want Lowry, Derozan, and Jval on my team but that would require some reaches!

        • JB Gilpin

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          @Ken: The truth comes out! Haha yeah totally see that there in Canada land. Poor Valanciunas failing me last year will have him on none of my teams. HE FAILED ME! Haha

          • Khang says:
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            @JB Gilpin:

            Yeah I am still bitter the raptors drafted Ross instead of Drummond at #8. I was yelling at my TV like crazy. Pretty sure they passed on Drummond because of Jval. Damn you Jval…

            • JB Gilpin

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              @Khang: Valanciunas ruining the hopes and dreams of everyone in North America!

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